Garfield County, Colorado

come on gentlemen get started okay we're on the air good morning everybody this is board accounting commissioning for monday june 15th uh first thing on our agenda is going to be a work session but we will start with roll call commissioner wilk president jeremy jencoff president commissioner samson here if you'd all join me in the pledge of allegiance i pledge allegiance to the flag united faith in the brand of the beauty of your brother for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all if you could remain standing just join me in a moment of silence in your own way okay thank you okay we do have um public comments from citizens on the agenda i think we'll wait till 10 o'clock on that yeah that's fine that's all right okay or we'll wait until we're done with the hopefully it's 10 o'clock c dot presentation so with that um that um we you have please make your introduction then you have the you have the floor you have the floor yeah well thank you commissioners for having us here today so um yeah jason smith i'm the region rtd our director for region 3 which is this corner of the state um this is part of our annual county meeting road show so uh county meeting road show so uh thank you again for having us here it's always an opportunity to come and talk about what we're doing um recent events projects and then get feedback from the counties which we appreciate so uh as we go through today we brought a presentation it should take about 30 minutes or so to go through uh our team will kind of take turns speaking speaking so we'll switch out up here and go through some of it we're happy to answer questions as we go through so feel free to to stop us if you have anything and then at the end we can open it up for for more questions comments or open discussions just just for the public for everybody that's here we will we will take public comments but we will start with uh our local government entities first and then we'll go to the public so all right okay thank you we'll jump right in then so um so c dot you know we're a large organization a lot going on i just want to touch on some high points here some of our core functions uh most people know us just as a you know removal of snow and winter times but we do a lot more than that also all the construction that goes on on the highways the maintenance and operations and then multimodal services along with sub allocated programs all of these four areas they really incorporate safety mobility and asset management so there's a lot of things that go on in the department and if you'll get into some of those as we've talked today so every year we meet with the governor's office and we come up with c dot goals we call them our wildly important goals wigs this year we have three of them we focused on uh fix our roads advancing transportation safety and sustainably increasing transportation choices multimodal uh those are the areas we are focused on we also have you know a lot of strategies under each one of them of how we're going to achieve and perform in each of these areas and major them today we're going to do some region overview we're going to get into statewide budget a little bit uh then we'll talk about some capital improvement projects and asset management uh that's what's going on in our maintenance teams and communication and then we'll open it up for general topics so like i said i'm jason smith the region transportation director region three is the largest region geographically in the state uh it's a northwest corner we have 15 counties that we represent over 50 municipalities that we work with which is quite a you know few to work with um transportation runs through every one of these cities and counties and they affect all of them a little different they all have their own unique issues and situations and we try to cater to them as best we can to figure out their problems and and try to figure out what we can do to make you know the best choices for them and their communities we have over 5 000 lane miles in this region 13 mountain passes 13 rest areas seven tunnels over 700 bridges and over 15 000 culverts um you know just kind of give you some ideas of the numbers of things that we work with we have about 600 positions i don't have all those positions filled right now um we have a real roughly about 540 of those positions filled and that's honestly about average for us if you look back you know pre-covid times during covid uh our vacancy rate jumped way up we got up into the 30 some percent like a lot of the the organizations agencies did at the time we've been able to recover from those times we've had to change some of our programs especially on the maintenance side of the house we offered some incentive programs increased some pay we also opened up our housing we do stipends now for some of our our employees uh especially along the i-70 corridor and then we're building some housing we've also changed uh what it takes to come into the department we used to have you know higher criteria where we would only hire cdl um you know licensed operators to come in and and start at our base positions um we've changed that now so we'll basically hire somebody with very little experience and we'll get them their cdl so we have a training program in-house now so that's helped us go ahead and hire and fill positions what we're finding now is we're in the kind of the training cycle so we have about 40 of our employees that have less than two years of experience so we're doing a lot of training trying to get those employees up to speed and we're hoping within the next five years we'll really have a good solid workforce again the region's very large or spread out our main headquarters is in grand junction we our core operations we have two maintenance sections um there's the maintenance section that's section two that runs along like 70 corridor and then there's maintenance section six that's kind of north area we have three engineering program areas there's a west program central and an east program this is part of the central program area you're going to hear from the engineer and he'll speak about some of the projects we also have a traffic management group out of grand junction they represent the entire region they work with a lot of the communities on these issues with access or intersections things like that you'll hear from them today we also have business office civil rights office of planning environmental group materials units right away units and utilities and grand junction as well so here i just want to provide some of our leadership contacts uh you know if you have the electronic version of this you should be able to click on a name and get a contact if if you need to reach out to us uh feel free anytime to to ask us question and if you don't know who you need to contact contact myself or mark rogers here um we can help get you to the right person for whatever your need is uh very fortunate if you look at the top our transportation commissioners we have three of them in our area you're part of district seven which is barbara bowman we're very fortunate to have uh commissioner bowman here with us today commissioner is there anything you'd like to say just thank you for having us and we're really happy to be here thank you very much and again yeah feel free to reach out to anybody on this list if needed so with that i'll go ahead and turn it over to mark rogers and he can speak of the budget good morning mark's a familiar face so yes thank you thanks so much good to be here again um good morning i'm mark rogers i'm the regional planning manager for region three um as you've said i've been around a little bit so i want to talk about revenue a little bit and then we'll work through kind of the c dot spending and then get over to the general um hutf that i know the county's interested in if you look at this uh slide mainly on starting on the right hand there then to the colorado department transportation about 75 of our our budget to 1.6 billion there covers the core of our our effort um we have about a 2.3 billion dollar budget but the 1.6 million covers the federal programs the highway user trucks highway users tax fund the general fund and the other state funds again the federal program is our biggest program um it's funded mainly out of the federal gas tax at 18.4 cents per gallon and then the state users tax fund as the tax per gallon is about 22 cents both of those taxes were from the 90s um haven't been raised since then so they're fairly flat we'll get into more about that later on and the state highway users tax is also funded by vehicle registrations faster fees and the retail delivery fee we do get some general fund transfers on occasion and then there's other state highway fund other funds that come in through the aviation fuel appropriations um appropriations various other other fundings so those are the core of our effort that 1.6 billion and then on the left hand side is some of the investments some of the other fees that have come in through the legislation um the clean trends the enterprise the other funds so um but our core effort is that comes from the fuel taxes so go on next slide the funding then gets distributed our revenue then gets out of the funds our biggest outlay of funding is our capital construction this covers our asset management our safety programs our 10-year plan projects and the rural priority program the other fund or the other outlay that's the second biggest is our maintenance maintenance and operations um one of the challenges we've had this we're starting to see more and more of is maintenance and operations is most of that's required to be just state funded and but we also need to have some state funds to match federal projects and the federal funds we have to match federal funds by like eight by 20 percent or 10 percent depending where it's at and so now all of a sudden because the state funds are getting a little bit tighter we're having to really prioritize okay putting a lot to safety takes away from opportunities to really match federal funds it's not to any point that we're having to make critical decisions but we're very much aware that state funds are very precious and valuable and we're really really conscientious of where they get spent to maintenance and getting product on the road the other program our sub allocated program these are funds that just comes to c dot and we put them right back out to the local agencies for um for their work and so we do some administrative on that um but most of the time anything we do administratively we do as c dot just as a department and those funds go straight out to the local agencies so that program has gotten to be a lot bigger over the years um used to be fairly small but now it's it's gotten really big and we'll talk about that toward the rest of the document the only other item that i really want to 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So then we get over to this slide, which really talks more in depth about the state and local revenue. So again, I talked about the state tax, the fuel tax. And again, those are pretty flat. You'll see they're at top line. We expect them to either stay the same or decrease a little bit depending upon whether the gas. Now again, these are pennies per gallon. It's not a 100%. It's not, you know, so it depends on if the fuel sometimes gets more expensive, people drive less. So there's less gallons being sold. And so sometimes, but it stays pretty flat overall. You'll see the vehicle registration fees and the faster collection and the road usage fees, those all trend up a little bit. And the rest of them stay fairly flat or are small enough to be kind of inconsequential. So that's the revenue that the state gets for the state tax. This is then distributed to cities and counties. But before that happens, you have an off the top appropriations that goes to the port of entries, to state patrol, to department of revenue for various things that relate to roads and driving. And that increases every year a little bit. CDOT and then the cities and counties then split the remaining 60-40. So the off the top goes that way. And then the DNR has about 300,000 they take off annually. So this next slide talks a little bit about our 10-year plan. Again, it shows the 15 counties there. We had the original 10-year plan that was funded through the bonding. We had a bunch of projects on there that got taken care of. But some of those projects still remain. We have 45 proposed projects for this next 10-year plan. 10 of them were brand new projects that came on to the system. The first four years, we're expecting $132 million. Of that, $50 million has already been dedicated to Vail Pass and getting that finished up and that project. And then in the out years, we're expecting about $198 million. Bottom line, we get about $33 million per year in this next cycle from between now and 2036 for the 10-year plan projects. The 10-year plan projects are more capital construction. They're for capacity or mobility, mainly improvements. They don't really go to our asset management. Some do to help our asset management. If you go to this slide right here, we talk a little bit about the asset management. And asset management really is just we have about 15 different categories. And the statewide, we about in 2015 or so, we went to an asset management program where we broke down all these different classes of assets. And we grade each one of those assets. And then we try to say, okay, what level of funding can we get to it? What level does it need? And then we try to apply a matrix to get as much money as we can to it. Right now, we're planning on about $370 million over the next couple of years, $370 to $400 million, to maintain those assets, to keep them in working condition. And again, this is a statewide look. Region 3 typically gets about 15% of the asset category. So if you look at culverts or staff bridges or buildings, region 3, depending upon how much of those assets we have, we would get about 15% of those assets, of that funding to take care of our assets here in region 3. For example, on our culverts, it shows they're about $8.2 million, but we only get between $1.5 million and $2 million a year to take care of the 15,000 culverts that we have. So again, it's very tight. We prioritize our projects to the best we can, but we work really hard to keep things up and moving and able to use. So I'll turn it back over to Jason unless you have any questions on the funding or any issues. Yeah, Mark, how much is funding being pooled for Floyd Hill? You know, you talked about Bell Pass, but you also have a really large project going on in Floyd Hill. We do. And again, on those large projects in other regions, I'm less familiar. So funding comes to the state and then gets distributed to the regions. And so I'm very familiar with region 3 funding, not so familiar with specific how Floyd Hill's, all the funding there. I do believe they got grants. I do believe that they've bonded on that one as well. But I think that they got some federal grants. I know like on Vail Pass, we received a $100 million grant on that one, a $60 million grant on that one. And so I'm sure Floyd Hill got some federal grants and some federal specialized money for that, and along with some bonding and other things. But yeah, as far as the funding goes, again, all the money comes into CDOT. And then region 3 gets about 15%. Region 1, which is most of Dr. Cog, I believe, gets about 30%. And then region 4. So again, the percentages get broken down a little bit. Jason will talk about this, but population now is being brought into the whole distribution formula. And so that's a real kind of interesting cutoff. About 2012, so RPP, Regional Priority Program, used to be ADT, which is average daily traffic, truck ADT, and then lane miles. Well, about 2012, 2013, they said, no, we want RPP. And when I say they, it's a political they. So we'll just, that's about the best I can say on that. They decided we want population brought in on that, as well as some of the other issues. So region 3, we really didn't take a hit because we got Summit County at the time. So we actually got just bumped up like 0.1 or 0.2%. But again, the population on that whole calculation really did kind of affect RPP at the time, which is just one category of funding. But now as asset management and other things are coming into play, they're looking at population as well. So that does take a toll at times. And I'll let Jason talk a little bit more about that. Thank you. Any questions for Mark? Moving along. Okay. So here, just wanted to throw in a map. And this is what we call our good, fair, poor map. It's our asset for pavements. So roadway condition, we go out and measure them every year and monitor them for rutting, cracking, you know, and smoothness. So this is just a visual of kind of the shape of our road. So it's green is the good. Yellow is kind of that moderate. And down to the red is our poor. So on the left-hand side, you can see the last year's updated map. You know, we try to keep everything in the green as possible, you know, but moderate still is what we call an acceptable level. We really do not want to see them going into that pink or red category. On the red or on the right side, you see that the circles there, that indicates where we have projects in the near future that we're working on. Here, I just wanted to talk a little bit about some of our, you know, other assets, what we have. As Mark mentioned, you know, trying to stretch our dollars out of the funds that we get in our allocation every year. Each one of the different assets, we get a different percentage. So it's hard to say exact number. But for culverts in particular, roughly 15,000 culverts that we have in this region. And as Mark said, we have about $2 million per year to work on them. That's not a lot of money to stretch out to that many culverts, as you know. We're starting to see the average culvert replacement being anywhere from, you know, $100,000 to $200,000 at the cheapest. Some of them are very large culverts, like box culverts. They can be up to $10 million to replace just one culvert, which makes it extremely difficult when we're only getting $2 million a year. So we have to, you know, be very strategic on how we can, you know, either get multiple years of money whenever we have some of these larger culvert projects and how we put it together or deliver it. Traffic signals, similar. We have about 230 of them in the region. We get enough funding to replace one to maybe two a year. So you can do the simple math there. It's pretty hard to stay up on things whenever we're funded at that level. So we have to be very strategic on how we're fixing them, maintaining them, and stretching those dollars out as far as we can. And the same way for the roadway pavement, about 5,000 lane miles, as Mark said, you know, we've changed some of the formulas that we're getting. So right now, this year, we've received about $55 million for our pavement program for the year. The formula has changed. So the new allocation starting in fiscal year 29, we will drop down to about $46 million for this region. That's all 15 counties and all the roadways that we have within. And so we're trying to look at it, see what we can do, be more strategic with our dollars, and maybe look at different treatments of how we, you know, spin that. So that's some of the challenges we are facing. And, you know, we just feel like we're struggling to stay up and caught up with all the assets that we have in our region. Any questions on some of our asset programs and where we're at and how we're delivering? We're good. Keep going. Keep going. So with that, I'd like to bring up Josh Cullen. I guess Josh is going to speak and talk about the central program projects. Thank you. Good morning, Josh Cullen. I'm the Region 3 resident engineer here in Glenwood Springs. So that's our residency for Garfield and Pitkin counties, Program Central. So we got a couple projects on here. Coming up in kind of preliminary design and then slated for construction in the upcoming years. So a couple that are in our counties in Garfield, we have, we're working on right now kind of preliminary is Garfield County interchange design. So we're looking at some old studies that have been done and just bringing this back up to address our aging. Interchanges down in Silt and the rifle area, Newcastle. Still preliminary and looking at these in terms of, you know, working with the locals and future developments and seeing what's out there. So no timeline yet on construction, but we also have Glenwood Canyon coming up that is slated for 2027 construction. So this is a continuation of resurfacing that we've been doing over the years. Doing polyester concrete in lieu of asphalt and trying to get that 20 to 30 year lifespan out of a surface. We'll also be doing a substantial amount of bridge rail replacement, which we call a type eight rail. So that's the steel railing you see that's hanging off the side in many areas and deteriorated. What's the estimated cost on that replacement? The rail itself. Oh gosh, I think I forgot the number, but it's a lot. It's in the tens of millions, twenties of millions. So we won't be doing it all at once. We'll be phasing it out. But we actually just had a value engineering study recently with a number of designers and experts and looking at details, trying to, you know, come up with economical solutions, bring the costs down. But at the same time, meet the crash requirements that are required. What are your thoughts on Douglas Pass? I mean, that's been kind of top of Douglas Pass. That road's been kind of hanging on the edge of the mountain for years now. Yeah. Yeah. Douglas Pass is not out of our residency. I might have to defer to Jason or Roland Wagner on that one, but I'm familiar with that. Yeah. So we actually do have quite a bit of work going on in the Douglas Pass area. So to the north, we do have some paving projects, but right on the pass itself. But we were very fortunate to get what we call a flap grant. So from central federal lands, we're coming with the federal government. We applied for a grant. I think it was roughly $10 million to match our $10 million. $10 million, $12 million. It's going to be about $10 to $12 million from the CDOT funding side. We're pulling together some RPPs, some faster safety, surface treatment, and then some 10-year plan allocation funding. We're cobbling a bunch of money, as much as we can, to go up there at the top of the pass in the Garfield County section to really come in and do some work on that. It's predicted to go about 2027 is when the central federal lands will be doing construction, and they actually will be doing the construction side. Yeah. If you're familiar with what we did on US 50 over Little Blue Canyon, very similar kind of setup where the CFL came in, they ran the project for us, and we had oversight over them and monitored the project. They did that on US 50 for us. They'll be doing that up on Douglas Pass, and the type of work is very similar. They're going to be doing a lot of blasting back into the hill, trying to widen it out, straighten out some of the curves, and just make it more stable in some of the slip areas as well, and then paving. Unfortunately, we're not able to go all the way up and down the pass both sides, so it's a very isolated area up top, but they will repair it. Yeah, I always found that interesting. The roads on 139, the roads good until you hit in Mesa County, you hit the Garfield County line, deteriorates, go over the top. As soon as you hit the Rio Blanco County line, it gets better. So at least that was my perception. And just on that part, part of the issue is, because it doesn't really reflect on Garfield County, but as much on the TPR, because 139 is just not the priority for the whole interstate. You know, when the intermountain TPR has most of I-70 on it, that really becomes a chunk of their priority. And so poor 139, and it's no fault of Garfield County. It's, you know, it's just, it is what it is. It's got a mind here, too. You know, and so, yeah, so you're right. On both sides of Garfield County, the road is getting better, but hopefully we'll get this one done. We had to just wait until we got that flap grant and that took care of to help and get that priority up. And I don't see anything in here on Highway 13. I mean, you've done such a great job. You've got that last six miles to get it into rifle, and it is set. Yeah. Yeah, again, kind of competes with the interstate in this area. We do have a project that's shelved or getting on the shelf for the next phase down from Rio Blanco. So we're excited. We're trying to look for funds for that project so we can deliver it as soon as possible. But right now, we don't have anything in the plan. Yeah, North, South Corridor. It is. Without a doubt. And we don't have as much truck traffic on it as we used to. Used to. Still, that can change quickly. Yeah, we've made some great improvements along that corridor all the way up, you know, all the way to the border, honestly. So it's a great corridor. We're still focused on it. It's just, yeah, trying to find the extra funds. Okay. Thank you, John. Thanks, Josh. Yeah, that's all we had on capital improvement projects here. Unless you guys had any questions on the two, we can move on. So on this one, on asset management, the ones you'll notice on there that are in our area are Colorado 82, Glenwood Springs, preventative maintenance, and then resurfacing on Highway 82. It says Snowmass Canyon. We actually just completed a project last year there, but there is still resurfacing to be done in phases on 82. Down there near the bottom. We're currently paving. We have I-70, we have I-70, real ascend to West Rifle. That's one of our current projects out there, a mill and fill, and then some repairs to some concrete at the West Rifle exit, where there's some bumps and dips out there. That's currently underway, slated to be completed this fall. And then just below that, I-70 Glenwood Canyon Phase 8. That's kind of coupled with the previous capital improvement projects. So the Phase 8 project will be underway in 2027 and 2028, most likely. It'll probably be a two-season project based on the scope. And we build a really high-maintenance interstate there through Glenwood Canyon. Yeah. It picks up a lot of your dollars every year. It is. It's one of our bigger challenges because it's about 30 years old now, and we're starting to see that more rapid deterioration. And the rail, right, and that parapet wall is starting to become an issue, and so we're having to invest more in it. So, yeah, this next project, we're very lucky to get as much money as we've been able to pull together to have a substantial project in the canyon. Still won't complete the canyon and bring it up to where we need it to. But it'll be a good chunk of it that will get, you know, paved and some of the rail replaced. Yeah. And we really lost four years' worth of projects after the fire and the debris flows because we spent, you know, four years rehabbing and repairs. So those were years we could have used for projects. We could have always been a while back. Okay. No other questions for Josh? Then we'll move on into talking about traffic and safety with Mr. Mark Bunnell. Hello. My name is Mark Bunnell. I work in the traffic unit out of Grand Junction. As was mentioned prior, the traffic unit covers the entire region, and I've gone through and highlighted the projects that we have out of the traffic units in this area. The first one there. So the I-70 Silt eastbound on-ramp extension. That was a safety project that Silt partnered with CDOTs and received a grant for that. Thank you on that. That eastbound on-ramp, it just threw you right out into the highway. Yeah. Just had enough running time to get up to speed. So. Yep. An important project. Yeah. We've got quite a few of those on I-70 through this region, but that was the one that kind of rose to the top at that point. And we're anticipating that one to go to construction in the summer of 2027. The next one listed there, 82 and Spring Valley Road, left turn diesel. That's the up valley direction, that really short left turn lane. You know, the median's there. We just got to tear it out and kind of pave it in. The biggest challenge there is there's a culvert. That's the CMC exit. Yes. Yeah. And I travel that quite often. Yeah. What seems like a simple, just tear it out and pave it. There's a culvert and drainage issues in there that we're having to do some design on. So that's why it's taking a little bit longer than we thought. But that one will go to construction next spring. So 2027 also. Glenwood Canyon, variable speed limit, automation. You know, those signs have been up for a while. And then we've been working on the programming to get it. So instead of, you know, eyes on the ground, eyes on the cameras, making the changes, we've got the systems in place that can measure the pavement friction, the pavement condition. You don't want to get slick and icy. And it's making the changes to the speed limits quicker than humans can. So we've just had some issues in testing. But we're continuing to work on that so that we can get that dialed in. The bottom one there, region-wide signal backplates. You know, if you've noticed on some of the newer traffic signals, you see that yellow bands around the edges of the signals. National studies have shown that that can reduce crashes by a pretty significant percentage. So starting here in four to six weeks, we're going to go through the entire region and get that done on all of the signals. So you'll see that here in this area sometime this summer, maybe this fall, depending on the priority of the contractor, you know, how they're going to move through the region. And it'll be maybe a half a day at each signal with some lane closures that that will occur. And you want to talk about Dow Canyon. That's an important area of the I-7. 6.5 lane isn't going to do much, but, you know. So that's another VSL. It's been completed recently. And that's another one that as soon as we finish the Glenwood Canyon VSL automation, then we'll move that same programming and analytics to Dow to where it's, you know, the computers monitoring the pavement condition and making the change for us. So we'll see electronic signs in there. They're there. Yeah, they were finished last year. It's just now we're kind of working on that. It's that programming of the system, I think. Yeah. And Mark and his team is very instrumental in doing a lot of the stenciling and, you know, all the signing that's going on in, like, Glenwood Canyon, Dowd Canyon, you know, really making those operational improvements with the trucking community as well. I do a lot of stenciling in Glenwood Canyon. Yes. For the lanes. Correct. If we go to the next slide, that one is covered there, where these are the maintenance projects. So in addition to, you know, the safety, the projects that we do, this is just the yearly maintenance of the signing and striping. You know, every year we hire a contractor and our own crews to go out and re-stripe everything. And this is just showing the contracts that we put out to the contractors. So our region-wide epoxy striping, the two main focuses there are I-70 and then Highway 82. We always contract that out. The roundabout striping covers all over the place. And then the FY27 is a similar, you know, 82 and 70. It's just that the following year's work there. So constantly roving around the region. You know, one of the things we've highlighted is the amount of money that we're getting to cover these assets. You know, our stencils, you know, the turn arrows, the words on the road. We typically like to replace those about every three to four years. But the way the funding is diminishing, you know, we're now in the five to six-year range to be able to replace those stencils on the road, unfortunately. Any other questions there for Mark? We're going to move on. Okay. So I'd just like to highlight here, you know, so like I said at the beginning of the presentation, a lot of basically everything we do is focused around safety. So as a state, we monitor fatalities and accidents. Last year, you know, a statewide level, we thought we were, you know, on a decline of fatalities statewide. Unfortunately, right at the end of the year, that November, December timeframe, we saw an uptick in fatalities, which was very unfortunate. And, you know, looking back through some of the statistics and the details, you know, of the accident reports, it appeared that the uptick was really because of motorcyclists. We saw that more motorcyclist fatalities in those months than we ever had previous years. And we think it was because of the better weather. They were riding longer into the year. It was a little warmer and more comfortable doing it. And, yeah, we saw an increase in fatalities, unfortunately, which took the statewide numbers up over the previous year. This slide shows just in the region where we were at last year. So in 2024, we had 72 fatalities, but it went down to 63 in 2025, which was good. We did see a decline in our region. Same thing when it comes to the serious injuries in the region. We did see a decline on them as well, down to 350 last year. I would like to point out that if so, both the fatalities and the serious injuries, those are not just on CDOT facilities and roadways. Those are also on local facilities. And about 48% of those are locally owned. So those accidents, yeah, 48% of those are there. It doesn't include municipalities, though. It does. It doesn't include municipalities. Yes. School roads. That's bullies. And then for non-motorists, this is your bike and pedestrians. We did see an uptick last year, and we're looking into it a little harder and trying to see what we could do. But we were up to 10 in the region last year. We saw some pedestrian fatalities, honestly, in some strange places. It's not really in the urban areas where you usually see them, but more rural places in the region where just out and along the roadways where somebody was in the middle of the road crossing for some reason in the middle of the night and was struck by a car. So we're looking into it. It's very hard to chase some of that. That's part of what our traffic team and engineers do is really try to look for patterns, anything we can see that maybe there is an improvement we can make in an area and have a project. But some of these are very hard to find patterns or figure out ways we can make improvements. So with that, I'll turn it over. Mr. Cesar here, talk about local agency programs. My chance to say hi. Thank you, Jason. Good to be here. Good to be here in Garfield County. Good morning, everybody. I'm Dave Cesar. I'm the region planning and environmental manager for CDOT Region 3. Our local agency program is pretty busy right now, which is a good thing. We have 52 total active projects. Our goal is to get 14 new projects to construction this year. So pretty ambitious. The only bad thing is we're seeing a downtick in funding, both on the state and federal side. So if you look at the slide, we only have four that are currently in planning. And 30 of those are in design, which is good. Those will hopefully eventually go to construction. But the fact that we only have four in planning, that's the lowest number we've had in a few years. So hopefully we'll start to see an uptick in funding. So fingers crossed there. But it's a great program. We appreciate the relationship we have with our local agencies and glad that we're able to assist them in getting some important projects done. So next slide, please. Okay. That's it on the L.A. There's no question. I'll turn it over to Mr. Jared Morgan to talk about maintenance and operations. Good morning, commissioners. Thanks for letting us be here today. My name is Jared Morgan. I'm a deputy superintendent out of Grand Junction. We, on our side of it, we handle the maintenance side of it and the operations. I had to make a couple edits to one of our slides. So hopefully we can get through this. But so maintenance is a big part of safety. You know, safety of the traveling public, snow removal, you know, incident response, guard rail repairs, in treatments, utinuators, signs, signals, snow, and ice. That's a big part of what our maintenance folks do. We're also providing, you know, safety for our traveling and freight mobility, clearing block traffic lanes, speed and travel times, reliability of U.S. highway systems. We're also working with environmental, with a lot of our de-icing controls, stormwater runoff, hazmat incidents, and permanent water quality ponds. We're dealing with a lot of our litter that we've seen up and down our roads. We're dealing with a lot of homeless camps that are coming into the counties, not just Garfield County, but all the way down the I-70 corridor. And in our towns, we're seeing a little bit more of that. So cleaning that up, keeping it clean, and taking care of the homeless encampments. Working on those has been a definite upside up crease here lately. Infrastructure preservation, you know, doing a lot of asset management, taking care of what we have between our structures, our roadway surface. We're seeing a lot of cracks dealing bridge maintenance. We're dealing with some vandalism throughout our bridges. But overall, from what we're doing in maintenance, from taking care of the roadway from fence to fence right away, that – thank you, Jason. Section 2, detailed breakdown on this slide. Maintenance patching, we're looking at – we've done a lot of flexible asphalt patching throughout the section, about 5,000 square yards. Rigid concrete, minor repairs, about 250 square yards, and machine patching overlays. Here in Garfield County, we'll start out west with Douglas Pass, like you mentioned. Last year, we put 1,400 tons on the pass of hot asphalt on those curves on the south end. Being able to improve a lot of the narrowness of Douglas Pass on 139, we're continuing to update a lot of those curves before, like Jason was mentioning, with the new projects that are coming out in 27. We've got a good crew up there that have been working pretty diligently to keep that road in really good condition. Seal coating, we've got some chip seals coming up here in Garfield County. You know, section-wide, we've done about 370,000 square yards, and fog coating, about 147,000 square yards. This spring or this summer – we're already going through spring – but we're looking at two chip seals on Highway 6 in the frontage road between Canyon Creek and Silt, and doing a couple there. And then we're also doing the frontage road south of the interstate between Newcastle and Silt. We've also got roadside safety facilities and fences. We've been dealing with a lot of wildfires and grass fires that has been burning up our elk fence in Garfield County. So we've been working on that last year, where we had a big fire in Rolison and took out several feet of fence, about 533,000 lineal feet. We've been dealing with a lot of guardrail hits. So throughout Garfield County, from Glenwood Canyon all the way out west, towards Debeck, been dealing with a lot of cable rail repairs and guardrail repairs. So that's keeping our maintenance crews pretty busy. Next slide. So this is a slide that I just updated. We're just going to start out west with Patrol 6 Douglas Pass. They're a four-man patrol. They work. They have a couple extra hands in the wintertime. But as we know, we've been able to retain more employees. There during COVID, we were really short. And here lately, we've really seen a rise in our maintenance crews. So then we go to Patrol 9 out of Parachute. They've got a four-person crew up there. They run all the way to West Rifle, which brings us in to Patrol 10 out of Rifle. We've got a five-crew there. And then we've got North Rifle that's out of Section 6 that runs Highway 13. And they've got a four-crew Patrol 12 out of Glenwood Springs. They run Highway 82. They're on five-crew. 42 is Glenwood Canyon. They're running all the way to Dots Arrow from Glenwood Springs. They've got all the Glenwood Canyon. And then we've got Patrol 15 out of Carbondale. They're a four-crew. And out of all those patrols in Garfield County, we're looking at about six vacancies. So we've got – there's a lot going on between maintenance and keeping back to the basics and mowing. And we're helping our crews learn a lot of new things because, like Jason was saying, our retention is increasing. But a lot of our staff is pretty inexperienced. And we're bringing on a lot of different programs for our CDL training for our folks. And it's been able to help us a lot being able to retain our employees. So, yeah, that's pretty much it on maintenance side of it. Yeah, as Jared said there, our maintenance team is very diverse. They get pulled in all different directions and the knowledge they have to have. Everything from, you know, tunnels to snowplow removals and, you know, fighting fires in the summer, right? That's what we're seeing right now. And you guys know last week, you know, they get pulled off their normal job duties quite often, whether it's an accident or a fire or something like that. So, it's hard for them to really dedicate a lot of time to some of these larger, like, guardrail projects and repairs or patching because at any moment they might get interrupted and be told they have to respond to an accident or a fire or something. So, that's some of the challenges we do face. So, with that, if there's no questions, I guess, on the maintenance side of the house, we'll turn it over to Chuck Marsh and he can talk about communications. Thank you. So, good morning, everyone. My name is Chuck Marsh, like you mentioned. I'm the Region 3 Regional Communications Manager, which basically means I've got all 15 counties, but I'm really lucky. I've got an awesome partner. Her name is Austin Deneen. She is our I-70 Mountain Corridor Communications Officer, which is a new position for us for the last year and a half or so. Basically, Austin is charged with responsibility is Glenwood Canyon all the way to the Eisenhower-Johnson Memorial Tunnels and then a little bit up US 40 to about Winter Park, Loveland Pass, and then down 9 to the Breckenridge area. So, she gets the sporty part when it comes to wintertime, which is perfectly fine by me. But, no, it's great to have a good team. So, what we're basically charged with is trying not to just inform all of the communities on what we're doing, what CDOT is, who we are as not just an entity, but who CDOT is as people, right? We're not just big orange trucks that belong to the giant sticky fingers from Denver, right? It's people that live in the community, that work in the community, that drive the roads, that know the potholes, they know the guardrail, all the maintenance folks. They're familiar with it because their families ride the roads, too. So, it's to help educate the communities as well and who we are and what we do. If you would, please. All right. So, one of the things I'll talk about is cameras. So, back last year, we had about 136 cameras that we lost for a contract. Basically, the contractor wasn't doing a very good job, to tell you the truth. Anyway, we were finding them a lot because some of the cameras just were not working. So, what we did at CDOT and said, hey, look, we'll be better stewards of the money that we're given. We'll cancel this contract because they were coming back to us saying we want you to spend 10 times more on the same stuff that we were doing before. And we said, no, thanks. So, we decided to do it in-house with CDOT. So, out of the 136 that we lost, we're replacing about 69 cameras. Most of the ones that we're not replacing were redundancies along the I-70 corridor anyway. The ones that we are redoing are basically just ones that we need to see on and what people in the communities have said that are important to them. There's a lot that are difficult, though, because they're in areas where there's no infrastructure, there's no Wi-Fi or anything like that. So, we're having to basically build up that infrastructure. So, we gave it about a two-year period, and we're about a year and a half in. So, we're about halfway done with all of them. So, we're actually pretty encouraged about that. We should be done next year, and then they'll take another look on what's out there. Still, total, we have about 1,000 cameras across the state. How do you monitor those cameras? They monitored. How do you monitor them? Basically, just by visuals. When we know where the cameras are working or going down, you can see on the COtrip.org site that we have all the cameras. And there's times that we can go in there, and we'll check, and we'll see, and it'll say cameras down or whatever. Then there's other times that we'll check during the wintertime and see if they're even operational because of the storms or the connectivity. So, we do have a team up at headquarters that looks through, and then we always get a lot of input from local communities. So, that's probably the best. And honestly, we appreciate that. There's not very many of us, and there's a lot of cameras to see. So, we definitely appreciate the input from the community. All right. So, I mentioned COtrip.org. This is our number one asset. This is how we try to get information out to everybody as much as possible. It's COtrip.org or a COtrip planner app that people can download. And like you see, it's basically a map of the entire state with all our roadways, and you've got layers on there. You can track where the plows are. You can track weather stations. You can track all those cameras. It's just a plethora of information that really helps people figure out what's going on on the roadways. And there's times that you can sign up for trips that you want to do. You don't have to give all your information. But you can sign up and make a trip and plan the trip, and you can actually get alerts for anything going on, whether it's maintenance or accidents or anything like that, along that route that you're trying to take. So it's a great asset. We try to push it out there. We went off of a 2020 consensus that said the top three languages that people use that we need to have this for. Obviously, we have English, Spanish, and then Vietnamese was the third highest. So we've got Vietnamese on there. But our headquarters... I swear to be the third highest. Yeah. I don't think anybody would appreciate if we put that on there. It's kind of the... Oh, they might. I think it's more directed at us. So we don't want to put it out there. No, but... So we're constantly looking at that and seeing what else we can do to make it a better asset for people to use on the roads and on their trips. You know, I also mentioned, and I think this was my last slide, but social media. One of the things that you mentioned earlier, Douglas Pass, we get a lot of people that actually post to... There's a Facebook page specifically for Douglas Pass. And there have been times that I'll check on there or our maintenance teams will check on there. And there's commuters that have gone over there and they've seen... Matter of fact, I think it was about two months ago, there was a commuter that said, hey, Rockfall. And they took a picture, put it up there. And I happened to be on there 10 minutes after they posted it. I called our maintenance team. He said, you know, we went over it. It wasn't there. And now it's there. So we'll get on it. So again, that community input is great when it comes to things like that, things that we just don't know. Because as Jared mentioned on his slide with the amount of manpower that we have, there's not a lot of people for a heck of a lot of roadway. And one of the other things, like I said, the part of my job is to educate. When we talk about mowing, and if you drive the I-70 corridor and you get near a parachute in some of the other areas, you can see that they did an amazing job of mowing. But what you didn't see is the weeks that they spent prior to it going out and blocking those corridors and collecting it. Now, I don't know if you know. You can probably go about 100 yards on I-70. And with the parts and pieces that you collect, you can build pretty much a whole new car, right? There's everything out there. Those are the things that are going to destroy the mowers. Those are the things that are going to just not be good for our equipment. So while it looks like they mowed a lot, there was a heck of a lot that went into it before they could even get the mowers out there. So that's part of the education piece that we try to push out there as well. And then one of the other things that we do, and having Austin with me, we're being proactive when it comes to communication, something that we really weren't able to do before because there's just so much going on. So we've got a wonderful working relationship with the public information officers throughout Garfield-Picken, actually throughout all 15 counties. We meet with them monthly. And then I know we have, and I'm sure it's on your minds too, the Aspen Airport closure coming up next year. So we've already started discussions with them on how we're going to help amplify the messaging on that, on what the plans are, because we're expecting to see more ground traffic, right? Because there's going to be less airlines. So they're going to be pushing people to Rifle or to Garfield or even all the way to Denver Airport. So we're going to try our best to help amplify that messaging, whether it's with our electronic signs or just using our social media and our avenues too. So that's pretty much what I've got, unless you've got any questions for me. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, that kind of wraps up our slide deck. So now we can open it up to general conversation or questions. Right. Definitely good. We'll do our part first, then we'll get to the municipalities, then to the public. So if there's anything you want to, any questions that we want to add. Is there any plans for additional game fencing in Region 3? Yeah. I can start off and then I can turn it over to Mark or Dave here. But we do look at the region. We did a safety project study. It was a 2019. And it prioritized on the western slope areas we're looking at and where we want to put some of our funding. So we do have some more major projects. Nothing right now within Garfield County for major projects. But we are looking at designing a project more towards the county line. I think it's just south into Mesa County, really down into Debeck. What we saw last year, or actually two winters ago, was the elk herds kind of pushed over further into Mesa County along the river towards Debeck and migrating. And we saw a huge increase in, you know, actually just the elk in vehicle collisions and fatalities. And so we've been designing a project in that area. We do not have funding identified right at the moment to go ahead and build the project. But we're trying to get it on the shelf and ready. Now, if you've been kind of keeping up with, you know, what's been going through the state legislators session this last year, you know, we're very fortunate. I think it's 14. No, it's 141 is the initiative that passed or the bill that passed. It's going to create funding for us now for wildlife mitigation, which is great. They're still not sure exactly how much it's going to generate on a yearly basis. Can you wear, I've heard estimates, $7 to $10 million could be. I think we're positioned very well in Region 3 for some of these funds as they start collecting them and dispersing them. We have some of these projects on the shelf and ready. We also have some VELPAS projects that we've been working on trying to get them ready to deliver. And trying to fill in the gap. But our funding source has been the hardest part, honestly, with the wildlife mitigation efforts is because we did up until now, there was no dedicated funding source. So what we would do is use some of our safety funds. And it's frustrating because basically all the safety funds get put to where there's, you know, you can't be proactive. You basically have to be reactive with safety funds. They only qualify in areas where you've seen accidents. So we can't go, hey, you know, we're going to go get ahead of this. We kind of have to look and monitor where our accidents are at and where, you know, our biggest issues are and then go build projects to them. So this new funding will actually give us an opportunity maybe to be a little more proactive, put bigger projects together and really make those corridors, you know, more continuous. Because right now we have a lot of gaps in some of our tall fence areas and some of our improvements. They're not cheap. Like, you know, it's not just building fence because you have to look at how do the animals cross then, right? And if there's no natural or if there's not bridges or any natural terrain that we can use, we have to create those underpasses, overpass areas. And they're very expensive. And then you also have to look at accesses, right? If there's a lot of housing, residential or commercial around it, we have to protect them because those could be gaps in your fence as well. So then you have to put up a lot of what we call our deer guards. They're not cattle guards, but they're larger, you know, infrastructure so you can allow people to cross, but not the game. So it all adds up very quickly on the cost. And again, it was just been dipping into some of our regional funds competing with roadway money. And that's why we don't see as much of it as we'd like. Dave, you like to add? Yeah, Commissioner Will, I think, is familiar with a lot of this, having worked for Department of Wildlife and as a state legislature, too. State legislator. So, yeah, right now our top regional priorities, at least for new crossings, there's an area west of Craig on US-40 that's been identified as a really high priority area where we've had a lot of wildlife vehicle collisions out there. So we're progressing with the design on that. Hope to be able to move forward with construction in that one. Eastvale Pass is another big area where we also have three wildlife crossings planned for that. We're, again, progressing through design, hoping to get money for construction. And that would involve, you know, the jump out, you know, escape ramps, exclusion fencing, and the crossings as well. As far as just wildlife fence only, I know we're working on completing our initial phase on Westvale Pass, really big project. And I know there's a number of crossings we're putting in there. And we're also going to add some exclusion fencing in there, too. We coordinate very closely with CPW on a lot of those. But those are kind of our biggest priorities right now. I think we're also looking at wildlife fencing in the Vail area, too, along I-70. But, yeah, Commissioner Will, I'm happy to sit down with you in a separate meeting, and we can discuss those, too, in more detail, if you like. Yeah, I'd appreciate that. Okay. Switching gears, I mean, from your funding standpoint, how has the front-raised rail affected your funding? It hasn't impacted our funding. It's not competing with our allocations or our fundings right now, you know, what we're getting. Don't know the future, if that could change. For maintenance as well. Even on the maintenance side right now, it hasn't impacted anything that we're seeing. Again, I don't know what the future holds if they build that out or if it would start leaving some of the funds. And, you know, Commissioner would have to start prioritizing one way or the other. But, yeah, we're able to continue on with what we have, as Mark talked about, in our 10-year plan. It didn't pull any of our 10-year plan funding away. We still get that $33 million a year. We're still getting our regular regional priority plan funds that we've always gotten. Same allocation. Our safety, faster funds, things like that. They're the same allocations that we've been receiving through the years. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Samson. Well, a couple things to commend you. Good job on Highway 13. That's a lot of my area, district and so on. And it's vital, the amounts of the dominance and the traffic. The downside of it is I've noticed since things have been improved, and this always happens, people speed a lot faster now on that highway, and there's a lot more traffic, and there's a lot more accidents and have been fatalities. But I didn't used to have that. We're beginning to see that happen on Highway 13, where people are getting hurt and injured and killed because of that. It's a G-Way sword. I get it. Good job. The other thing is Highway 82. Almost everybody that's in the room wants to talk about that. So I think I'll really just mind time and let them talk about it. Yeah. Fred, Rob, Bentley's back there as well. Do you guys have any comments, questions? Well, I appreciate CDOT being here, as always. There's a lot going on. And as the board knows, we're very involved with the IMTPR and have been for a long time, advocating for not only just broadly Garfield County, but individual projects, the interchanges being a key one that have been problems for a long time. And so I know that there are a lot of other interested folks in the room. So I'm going to maybe just leave it there, Rob. I don't know if you have anything to add. But I'm just eager to see what the next conversation is. Bentley, you have anything from IMTPR standpoint? Sure. Bentley Henderson. I'm the vice chair of the Intermountain Transification Planning Region. It's a five-county region that is statutorily set up to do work with CDOT on transit and multimodal planning. And so we meet orderly. And we've just completed the 10-year plan at the IMTPR, which was then finally just adopted by the Transportation Commission. You can view it online. Just a little bit to what Mark and Jason both talked about. There are a bunch of projects in this region. One of the things that we did at the TPR when we were working on this last 10-year plan was to recognize that there were a whole lot of projects from the previous plan that were still in the pipeline. And so we identified those as our priorities in this new plan to make sure that they continue to get funding and to make sure that they continue to be recognized as important projects. And it was mentioned there's the CELF Interchange is one of them. Newcastle is one of them. We looked at a lot of local projects that wanted to make sure they stayed in the pipeline. So that's been the primary focus of the TPR over the last few months. And then we just kind of worked it through some housekeeping stuff. There are a couple other programs that are important to us, but unfortunately, with the challenges at the state or budget issues, the multimodal transit funding is one of them that we wanted to try to maintain. But unfortunately, those dollars got pulled back into the state budget. And so those multimodal projects got cut quite a bit. And the only ones that are still active are the ones that, again, had funding prior. And there's a couple of local transit plans. The town of Parachute got some multimodal funding for some of their downtown projects. And so those are the things that we are trying to focus on from a local standpoint as we start moving forward and start kind of sorting through the projects that are in the pipeline, as well as, again, continuing to work with local counties and our CDOT partners on any other issues that may come along. So I think, you know, we're all well aware that we're all aware that we're all aware that we're almost at capacity rush hour with commuters and choke points being South Canyon, Glenwood Springs, and really the entrance to Aspen, really the choke points. That you're going to hear, I think, that you're going to hear from the public quite a bit about that, as you're well aware. With that, I think let's take a quick break, five-minute break, and then we'll get back to municipalities. So. There will be. Okay, so we are on the air. We're officially on the air. We'll go back now to our municipalities to give them a chance to speak. I see that Newcastle, Glenwood. Right here, Newcastle, Glenwood. Carbondale. All right. Well, I think what we'll do is we'll ask the municipalities to come up to the. Rennell, are you going to carry the microphone? Okay, that'd be great. All right. Well, Dave Reynolds is right there. Right. Who? Went by him. So who? Let's get the municipalities to speak. Dave Reynolds is here. Dave Reynolds is right there. Sorry, Dave. Patrick's here. Thank you. Raffles here. Yeah. Good morning. I did want to say as a municipality with bookend projects, right? We've got the roundabout on one side. We've got the bridge on the other. What I wanted to let the commissioners know is what does that look like in real life, right? What's it look like boots on the ground from the municipality standpoint of having two huge projects going on at the same time? I can tell you it's been good. I'd like to thank Josh, Roland, and their team. Local engineers have done a great job. These projects were not easy. That roundabout has got more underground utility work than it had surface work. There was a lot going on. I had people ask me, you know, come on, it's a roundabout. How long does it take CDOT? It takes as long as it takes because of the work that was going on underground. From the municipality standpoint, you know, what we looked at is, you know, it did affect our water lines, our sewer lines, gas lines, things like that. And while no big project like that goes without little hiccups, it went extremely smooth. Land purchase in both these projects, right? We've got land acquisition that it took to get both those done. I got to watch and see how those were handled. I think those were handled really fairly with both landowners down at the bridge. We've got landowners that that bridge project's happening right in their front yard. CDOT has been amazingly sympathetic to them working right there in their front yard. I talk to them on a regular basis, and I think CDOT's done as well as they can. Methods that they chose to do the construction were deliberate to minimize the impact of pile driving noise and things like that. And then just the idea of being able to slide a bridge to create a detour has really, really made a difference on Main Street. You know, we've got one lane every now and then for the most part. It's two lanes. But when they do shut it down to one lane in each direction, it's been painless for Main Street. They set bridge girders last week and we were thinking, okay, here's going to be two days of Main Street being shut down, things stacking up. It couldn't have gone more smoothly. I know they had a crane breakdown, took a little bit of extra time. But even with that, the phone calls that the residents made to us concerned about traffic delays were absolutely minimal. So nothing goes without issues on big projects like these. There are some hiccups permitting for us on the roundabout project to get our landscape going. It's taken a little bit longer. Part of that's on our architect and how things were designed. But we're getting through that. We're getting ready to finish landscaping on that roundabout project. CDOT's worked with us on the bridge project most recently, helping out with the future of the Lova Trail. We've got a new pedestrian bridge right next to that brand new bridge that's going in. And the question is, well, what happens at the west end of that bridge? How can that best work out? And they've worked with Lova to be able to consider minor modifications, but modifications nonetheless. Once these things get on paper, nobody likes to change plans. Contractors don't like to deviate. Designers don't like to deviate. But CDOT's been extremely accepting to some suggestions made for the future of Lova Trail. So all in all, just wanted the commission to hear how it goes from the municipal side, what it looks like from our end. Communication is amazing. There are weekly meetings for roundabout projects, for the bridge project that when we have time, we can attend. And when we don't, their project managers and project engineers reach out to us on a regular basis to say, okay, here's what you can expect. Their PIO team, as was mentioned, communicates on a regular basis with our PIO. So that's going well. Like I said, nothing goes without hiccups. These are huge projects. But from a municipal standpoint, we appreciate how they're handled. We also appreciate being on the 10-year plan for the interchange. I think that's going to be a huge help to Newcastle. So thank you. Thank you. Make sure you introduce yourself and who you're with. Sorry, Patrick. My name is Pat Waller, city manager, City of Rifle. I don't really have much to add. I appreciate working with CDOT staff. I'll echo what Commissioner Sampson said. Those Highway 13 improvements are particularly important to Rifle. I felt like it was under construction for most of my life. But you got a good chunk of it done now, so that's really exciting. Also, I wanted to thank CDOT for helping with our bridge joint project on the river bridge into town. It's really made the driving surface a lot better. And then also partnering with us on our park and ride project. We're just going to get done sometime here soon. Yeah. Again, we're still being held up on that federal grant. I'm glad you actually brought that up. We still have not heard it stuck with OST. But as soon as we find out more, you'll be the first to know. Yeah. Go ahead, Barb. I just want everyone to know that I'm in constant touch with Congressman Hurd's office on that, on those projects. And I know letters got sent in from Aspen. They're called Westward. There's three of them. You know, Glenwood. I think, no, it's Aspen. Rifle and Grand Junction. So we're working hard on them. And believe me, I'm very politely persistent. So... Okay. So... No, that's all I have. It's just a pleasure working with you. Thank you. Bill McSpring is right behind you. Matt's back there. So... Good morning, Commissioners. Ryan Gordon, City Engineer, Mike Lundwood. I, again, want to thank CDOT. You know, we've worked, you know, quite a bit with them on a lot of projects. Currently, our 6 and 24 multi-use path is partly funded by an MMOF grant with CDOT. And it's been really great to have them and help them manage that grant. 6th Street was recently constructed last year. A big chunk of that came from CDOT as well. So we've partnered with them on quite a bit. We're looking to do some additional work on the Midland area. Hopefully, you know, in the next year or two here, we'll be looking to address some of those challenges. And I just kind of want to reiterate some of the cooperativeness, too, with the permitting. I mean, you know, Glenwood Springs, with Grand Avenue, Highway D2, right down our gullet. Anytime we have to do any sort of intersection work, we need to communicate and work with CDOT. And it's been very seamless to work with their folks to make sure that we are, you know, getting permits at appropriate time to fix ramps or to fix intersections. So it's been a real pleasure. And NC has been a great partner. And we look forward to many years of cooperation. Okay. Lee, do you want to say anything since you're... No? Okay. I'm John Loomis. I live at 10 Wildrose Drive in Ironbridge here in Garfield County. I want to start an overview with a simple suggestion for CDOT. Inexpensive. I made it to Mayor Ingrid Lusso. And there seems to be a little bit of issue with, well, it's CDOT because it's Highway 82 versus, well, but it's in Glenwood Springs. So if you've driven down 82, right in front of Glenwood Springs High School, when the bus stops there, the Rafter bus stops there, it completely stops that lane. And there's an underutilized parking lot. And there's an underutilized parking lot that Walgreens has. It's almost never full. And I think it wouldn't be very expensive for CDOT to purchase, you know, just a cutout, right? Just a cutout so that the bus can pull over out of 82 because if you don't do that, what happens now is the bus stops. Everybody tries to drive around the stop bus. And it's a very hazardous situation because of the volume of traffic on 82. So, you know, I think that's worth looking into. I suggested it to Mayor Ingrid Lusso. And so some coordination with the city would be useful. I have a comment for the county commissioners and then two questions for CDOT. And I do thank you. I've learned a lot about what CDOT does. So one thing, you know, given the budget, we've heard about, you know, a limited budget for CDOT since there's competing uses. I want to say that while I'm glad the commissioners are meeting with CDOT, I realize you have limited leverage, certainly. But you do have the power to say no to these large developments. And these large developments not only in the long term generate a lot of traffic on 82. The construction traffic is substantial to build these large projects. And that impacts county roads. An 80,000-pound gravel truck has the impact on county roads of 20 cars. And on county road 109, there's a large quarry. And those gravel trucks, you know, pull out of there and go south toward, you know, Aspen, Basalt. They go north toward lots of other projects. And none of which are highway projects. So I think, you know, that's something to keep in mind. That impacts your budget. The roads and bridges are, you know, you have a budget constraint as well to fix roads and bridges. And, you know, I realize there's a county road impact fee, but I'm not sure it can keep up with all of the large, if you build another, you know, big projects. You should be thinking about, because the traffic studies only focus on, here's the, you know, amount of traffic that the project will generate once completed. But the impacts on the roads are far greater when the construction takes place. So I have two questions for CDOT. You showed that the gas tax is fairly flat over time. With the population growth rate in Colorado, it's hard for me to understand why gas tax is going to stay horizontal. So that's a question. And I calculated based on the $3.8 million per mile to, and I presume it's per lane mile, that works out to $700 per foot. And so I wondered if you could shed some light. I know oil prices influence asphalt prices, but nonetheless, $700 a foot. So what was that last number calculated upon? You put up $3.8 million, I think, per mile for road construction. I thought I saw. Or resurfacing project? Yeah. Oh, okay. So while you're finding the slide, I can help on the gas tax a little bit. So, again, the gas tax is based on, oh, I'm sorry, Noah, are we good to answer these? Yeah, you, you, this is a. Okay. So I just want to be sure this is your meeting. So this is a good answer. Again, it is based on the number of gallons sold. So regardless of the amount of the populations, if they're not buying gas, it goes. And so that's why it's flat. The amount of gas being sold stays pretty constant depending on if the cost of per gallon goes up. Then people drive less. And so then there's less coming in. And it's just, it's price per gallon. That's just, that's just all there is to it. So then you can get. Efficiency's gotten better. Yeah, exactly. That's the biggest impact right now is fuel efficiency. So if you look at the last 30 years and what cars, you know, the efficiency of cars, that is really, you know, as we see that increase, it impacts us. Because we're not selling as much fuel, which is a good thing, but it still keeps our revenues fairly flat. So, and then there's now we're seeing the other modes, you know, catching on more and more. There's also less, right? So the more we're seeing electric cars come on board, things like that, which is a good thing. We're seeing, you know, less, you know, increase in our revenues as well. So, yeah, we see the pros and cons, right? So it comes down to at some point, you know, is this a sustainable revenue source? We need to be looking at it. And that's why we like to come to these meetings, honestly, and try to educate the best we can. Because, yeah, with our revenue source being basically over 30 years old at this point, 35 years old since it was last set, we really feel like it's time to be revisited at some point, you know, of how that looks. Not sure. I know there's been a lot of studies done on how to change it. User cost fees are different modes of getting, you know, charged different rates, things like that. But at some point, trying to figure out a more sustainable source of revenue would be preferred. Yeah, I know electric cars and hybrids play a portion of that as well. Yeah. And I'll just note too, John, that there are no large developments going on in Garfield County. There's been three applications that were large, and they did not get past our planning commission. So I think our process works well. Chris, do you want to go for Carbondale? Sure. Chris Hassig, councilman from Carbondale. I'll just give a quick update. We don't, I guess, fortunate not to have quite the level of infrastructure going through our town. But we do have a couple of little projects going with pedestrian crossings over 133. And we're really thankful to CDOT for sort of changing its approach in the last 10 years around multimodal infrastructure and being able to make easier crossings of state highways where they go through sort of downtown urbanized districts. So, yeah, we've got, we built one last year. We're building one this year. We'll probably have another one in the future. But those, I think, are important for us tying the community together across the highway. Beyond that, I think a lot of our concerns are around, again, you know, we're tied into the region. And, again, the same issue of the congestion on 82. And the, you know, our workforce, there's a lot of our, a lot of our residents go up to Aspen to work or come down to Glenwood to work. And then a lot of folks come up to Carbondale and beyond to work. So, I think the congestion on the highway is definitely a constant issue for residents. We have, I think, pretty high use of the public transit system with RAFTA. And we've been working quite a bit on making those first and last mile connections to the park and ride in Carbondale. And I think there's definitely a lot of interest in how we can make RAFTA more efficient and be an option for people that really is compelling and gets them out of their car and makes it faster for them to take, to use that option faster and more convenient. And I think it does boil down, for the most part, to those pinch points, which are, you know, in Glenwood Springs here, in Willits, where there's a number of traffic lights that back up, and then at the entrance to Aspen as well. And all those points are obviously infrastructure is sort of the choke point on those. But there has been some questioning about when they did the BRT expansion project a couple years ago, or closer to a decade ago. I think there was discussion of signal timing on the lights and making it so that buses hit green lights as often as possible. And that does not seem to have been effectively instituted at all. It seems like buses just get caught up at the same randomness as other cars. So I would be really interested in how CDOT and RAFTA could work together to maybe, I would assume there's maybe better technology around that. Similarly, the way you've automated the signage on the highways, I think there could be potentials there for improving the signal timing for the buses. And then, yeah, just trying to protect and create bus lanes in areas where they do have the choke points so buses can sort of zoom through those choke points. And hopefully that sense of envy will push more people onto the bus and reduce congestion for everybody. So obviously the entrance to Aspen is an opportunity to do that. Glenwood is, I think, the trickiest one. There's, you know, been talk about using the Rio Grande path back here or doing stuff on Grand Avenue. And then I think an underappreciated one is Willits now. And the Basalt area has a series of traffic lights there that seem to back up a lot. And there's also no, there's no frontage roads. I know this is kind of more of an Eagle County issue than Garfield. But I think Eagle County and CDOT should look into improving the frontage road situation around there because there's definitely opportunities on the, I guess you'd call it the northeast side of the highway. I think there's been a lot of new development at the tree farm. Connecting those via frontage road to Old Town Basalt, I think, might be a good option to keep people from having to cross the highway or get onto the highway. And mix with general through traffic to do local traveling. So those are just some thoughts of mine. But we're, yeah, we're thankful for the support and especially the planning support on multimodal stuff and roundabout projects in Carbondale. Thanks. Yeah, and Chris, Carbondale is starting to see a bit of a rush hour back up as well from the light all the way back to the roundabout. Yeah. Okay. So for the public, when you're speaking, I don't want to hear the same thing over and over again. So if somebody has made your comment, then please, please don't repeat it. So with that, let's other people, Siri's here. Do you want to get up and say anything, Siri? Any other comments from the public for CDOT? You're there. We're ready for you. Do you mind if I stay seated? No, there's it right there is a, just speak into the microphone. My name is Siri Olson. I live at 475 County Road 167 here in Garfield County. So thank you to everyone. Obviously, I think we all understand budget constraints, staffing constraints. It sounds to me like you're all trying your best to do an amazing job with limited resources. So thank you for that. Thank you for that. And any, you know, criticism, if that's what it comes out sounding like, is with that understanding in mind. I'm here primarily because I want to raise an issue I first raised back in November of last year, which deals with the safety of current residents in the county. Many of us are quite concerned, particularly in the event we should have to evacuate out of here, that we are not going to make it out safely. The 64,000 pound elephant in the room that I don't think ever really fully gets addressed is acknowledging what is the safe carrying capacity of Highway 82 and by extension I-70. Over the last 10 years, we have added, I don't even know, thousands of units of additional housing throughout not only Garfield County, but Eagle and Pitkin counties as well. Unfortunately, things seem to be addressed in silos. So we look at each individual development and we say, how much more traffic is this going to add to the road? And does it trigger our percentage for somebody to actually have to do something with an intersection or whatever? And invariably the answer to that is no. Because we are failing to look at the region holistically. So as the Carbondale gentleman mentioned, what they're doing up in Eagle County around El Jebel is impacting everyone down here. What they're doing or not doing in Aspen is impacting everyone down here. We need to start acknowledging that our infrastructure cannot safely handle anymore. I noticed in a couple of your slides that you have an emphasis. One of your key focuses is supposed to be safety. I believe the narrative at this point needs to shift more to that. Public safety, and I'm talking about the current residents who already live here. Unfortunately, for numerous reasons, water being one of them as well. Not everyone who wants to live here or in Colorado or in the West as a whole is going to be able to do so. We need to be honest about this discussion. I think the small brush fire that we had in South Canyon the other day laid bare the situation and the problems that we're facing right now. And that was a relatively small brush fire that was relatively quickly contained. It turned into chaos. It turned into chaos. So the work session since we've had thus far, trying to assure us that public safety and emergency planning is well under control, certainly did not appear to be evident that day. We simply cannot continue, and I understand there's a difference between the county and the cities and the planning. Land use decision making cannot be separated from traffic infrastructure and safety. The narrative must shift. The results of this growth have been predictable. Worsening congestion, longer commute times, driving it, etc. Excessive speeds, fatalities at key intersections, and angry and dissatisfied residents. We have intersections all along the Highway 82 corridor that are currently rated level of service F. This is unacceptable and unsafe. I appreciate hearing that there's some analysis of that left turn lane at Highway 82, which is where many of these accidents and fatalities have occurred. The congestion on Highway 82, and by extension I-70, has severely diminished our quality of life. It hampers emergency response times, and it threatens our public health, safety, and welfare. One of the issues I-70, has been a focus on the road. One of the other issues I saw on your slide was a focus on livability. For those of us who live there, here, part of livability to us is, we moved here to live in a more rural setting. We do not want to be sitting in a small version of the 405 outside of L.A. We need an analysis that is more holistic and region-wide. We cannot look at infills in Carbondale or infills in Glenwood, where I understand the decision has been made, but we want to put the density where the services and the transportation are. Okay, that sounds good on the surface, but at some point, there's also a breaking point to trying to put 10 pounds of potatoes into a five-pound bag. All of this density that we're adding doesn't just stay in the cities, it moves all around. The bus system, as lovely as it is, and RAFTA also does a lovely job. The reality is, whether we want people to ride the bus or not, a lot of people simply cannot. They're in construction, they need to haul tools, they need a truck. You can't haul your toolbox on the RAFTA bus to go to your job site. You're a mom with three children who possibly attend three different schools in the area, given their ages. You cannot get on the bus and deliver your three kids to the schools in time. In some cases, yes, there's a school bus that could get them there, but not always. Again, the public transit, for all of its good, and it is good, and I think some of the additional ride Glenwood and the apps for getting people that last mile have been vital additions, well thought out. But again, we need to also be honest about the reality of people's ability to ride buses. It's not a question always of their willingness. It's a question of whether it works in real life. I'm sorry, I get a little nervous when I talk, so bear with me. Unfortunately, given what I heard today with the budget constraints, and I think knowing what we all know about the emphasis on the front range, and how the western slope is kind of the ugly stepsister always with funding, I'm not hearing anything that indicates we're getting additions to our infrastructure. Highway 82, similar to Highway 9 in Summit County, has geographical constraints. You can only do so much with that roadway. And even if you could do more, where's the funding ever going to come from? Let's be honest. They're going to prioritize I-25 on the front range way before they're going to prioritize 82 over here. So there is a breaking point, and we are at it. I would suggest to you that we are already over capacity on our roads. I understand that the mandate from CDOT is not to take a position for or against a given development. As it's been explained to us, the question becomes, can we give access to the developer? Well, perhaps it's time for the question to be a little bit bigger than that. Being able to give access doesn't mean you have a functioning roadway once you've given that access, or a safe, livable roadway once you've given that access. Maybe the answer needs to be, no, sorry, we can't give any more access because our roads can't handle it. We are the Department of Transportation, and that should be up to us to decide, perhaps. Again, I understand it's not your mandate, but maybe it should be. So, those of us who live here understand this push for affordable housing as well. But we are destroying our communities and why most of us live here. We have to finally have some sanity in this land use planning end of things and start saying no. And this means in the counties, in the cities, we need to take a pause. We need to take a breath and absorb what we've done in the last 10 years and come up with a realistic plan for how we are going to expand our infrastructure if necessary. And is it even possible? Because I do not want to find myself, like the people in the Pacific Palisades fire, sitting in stop and go, dead stop traffic on Highway 1, running for my life out of my car to try to flee a fire. And that's the direction I fear we're headed. So, I ask us to take a little pause here and recognize it is time for us to no longer make our land use decisions in silos. We need to look at the cumulative effects of what we've done. And we need to be willing to draw the line somewhere. Thank you. So, thank you, Sherry. That was more comment than question, but I would like to, we did have gridlock here last week. And it just seemed like CDOT did play a part of that. I mean, it wasn't all of it by any means, but do you want to address that issue at all? I mean, literally, people were in parking lots trying to go the opposite direction of the fire and could not get out of the parking lot for three hours. So, I'll ask that question. Kind of starting in Jared there. I don't know if he has more details on the operations and how it was handled. You know, they're a challenge. Every one of these fires, you know, different places, it affects at different times of the day when it happens and how we have to honestly attack the fire and the fire crews that are coming in and what their strategy is with the IC commander. You know, whether we're shutting down and we're implementing a detour or if we're going to try to keep traffic open. It's big decisions that are made, you know, at that moment and trying to make the best decision for everybody and to get the fires put out as quickly as possible, too. So, you know, as of last week, you know, I wasn't here and don't know the exact details of how we implemented everything and how IC really was controlling the situation. We're always trying to look at how we can do it better. I'll turn it over to Jared and see if he has any information on, you know, how that was handled. Or Joe or whoever. I don't know. It's very involved. Okay, so Jared Morgan again. It was a very complex situation because when you have fire IC on that's calling the shots, we are on standby. So, yes, we wanted an alternate route. I was on that scene along with Joe Beja behind me. That when fire IC, instant command says that they don't want anybody going through, we are at their mercy to try to get the road open as fast as we can. Eastbound, the reason we had eastbound closed is because they ran their fire hoses from the river up the mountain so they would have more water capacity. So we couldn't let traffic flow. Westbound, it was gridlocked. And we were trying everything we could do to get one lane open. But in those emergency situations with fire, as we all know, it's trying to keep everybody out. But when that's your only route to go west, we were looking at a detour, the northern detour that goes out of Walcott up through Craig and back down through West Rifle. And we were trying to keep everybody out of the river. And then once we got up to about the northern detour, we started going towards the northern detour. And then an hour later, IC comes to us and says, yeah, we can go ahead and open eastbound when we've already messaged out that we were doing the northern detour. And that's from Walcott, the northern detour. It's not from Glenwood Springs. It's people that's westbound in Glenwood Springs that live in Silt or Newcastle was the hardest thing for us to tell people, locals, that they had to turn around and go through Craig to go home. Or go over McClure Pass. Or go over McClure Pass. But McClure Pass is not a detour for us because of semi-traffic for commercial traffic. So we can't message that out to commercial vehicles because just like that happened over Cottonwood Pass when we had the debris flows, we had to message out the northern detour because commercial vehicles were getting stuck on Cottonwood Pass. So it was mainly to the locals to know of the area that they could go to McClure Pass and go around to get home. But our team was very considerate to the locals here in Glenwood Springs that we were wanting to get them home. And until we got the green light through instant command with the fire department, we can't go through. And we were trying every possible way to get traffic to get through westbound. And I just would like, Siri is correct. If we had a raging wildfire that was coming down into Glenwood Springs and we had that kind of gridlock, it would be... Oh, we totally understand that. And our biggest job is to keep our travelers safe and keep everyone in the valley safe. And when we go to instant command and we say we have to do this, we cannot. Because until they give us the okay, even though it is a CDOT highway and it's a state highway, we still cannot go against IC without... Yeah, and we understand that. So, yes, we were very considerate of everyone in the valley and trying to get travelers home through that. And Joe, I don't know if we want to add anything to that, but... Just to kind of repeat what Jared said, is waiting for IC, they're getting those possibilities on times that can be pushed. So hindsight's only 20. Hindsight's only 20. We should have implemented the northern detour way sooner than we did. And that's where our decision-making gets difficult, running off of IC, when those possibilities of opening get pushed and pushed and pushed. And then you finally do implement the northern detour and then you open it in HALA. So where we run into issues, because we even implemented the 133 closure, we were turning traffic around on the other side of the canyon, having to be that northern detour route. Getting thousands of vehicles to listen to direction and not just pull off and park is something we struggle with any time we close the highway. We can tell as many people as we want, you have to go back to Wolcott and go north. But that doesn't stop them from finding somewhere to pull off. And then as soon as you open, you create that massive gridlock in several towns across several counties. And that's something we struggle with any time we have an I-70 closure, is getting the travel advisor to follow the detours, no matter how long they are. Okay, thank you. Appreciate it. More other comments from the public? We're going to get out of here at 10 o'clock. I'm seeing the answer is... I believe it's a question. I have Zoom. Okay. Do we have somebody on Zoom who wants to comment? Susan Sullivan. Susan Sullivan. Yes, hi. Hi. We can hear you. Great. My name is Susan Sullivan. I live in Missouri Heights on Milburn Court. That's Eagle County. But I have a question for CDOT. I watch all the applications for development in my area. And CDOT is often a referral agency. CDOT appears to review each application on its own merits. And it doesn't seem to take in the traffic information for other developments that are proposed at the same time. For example, right now, there's a fields application. There's an application pending for Elja Bell Crossing. And there's an application for a movie theater. All using the same intersection. A lot of these developers do what I call traffic algebra using ITE standards to classify their types of housing so that they can fall under that 20% increase that CDOT requires for them to fund traffic improvements. My comment is, why doesn't CDOT take all of these applications together and evaluate the traffic impacts so that, due to budget constraints, the developers can pay for the traffic impacts they create, instead of the public later, when we find ourselves in gridlock? Is that something CDOT can do? Can they actually take these applications and review them collectively? Because collectively, they totally exceed the 20%. And you can't do any algebra to make that change. I agree with everything that Siri said, but I see this as one way to avoid gridlock in the future. Thank you. Yeah. So, the 20% that Susan's referring to is in the state highway access code that's under that number. A new access permit is not required. So, one of the things that CDOT's been attempting to do is establish what we call the baseline so that that number sets essentially the 0%. And then one development comes in and say it takes 15%. Well, the second one would go over that 20% because it's going off of the baseline and that first project's under, but the second's not. There's just a lot of locations where we don't have that baseline set. So, we're working to get that done. Another issue, it's in the code, says that unless, you know, under 20% or unless there's identified safety issues. And so, we're always looking to that to see does the intersection have issues that needs to be addressed independent of the 20%. And so, there's many projects that we're able to bring that into play because there are safety issues that need to be addressed because of a new development coming. So, we agree with what Susan's saying that, you know, there's a lot of algebra being played out there and they're trying to stay under the 20%. And it is a lot harder when these developments are utilizing local roads to get to the highway. You know, it's not a direct connection. And so, we're doing the best that we can within the law of the state access code to address that. Thank you. Any other comments from the public? Any more from commissioners? Any more from commissioners? Okay, here. Okay. Please step forward. Pat Hunter and I live in Carbondale. I was just in this room 13 years ago when we almost got a traffic light at Dolores in 133. And you two guys and Martin. Still remember it, yeah. You remember it now. I do. I have to drive that intersection every day. And so, there were some stuff in the language of the joint agreement between Garfield and Carbondale and so on about getting a different, something at that intersection. And it never happened. But you did. You got a center lane at that intersection. That was the best you got. But you did get a center lane at that intersection. Yeah. And you know I got a traffic ticket using the center lane the other day. I'm sorry to hear that. Much to my surprise, a young policeman, Carbondale, pulled me over. And there was two problems when I hadn't put my sticker on my back plate. And secondly, that I made an illegal left turn. But we've got like five of those going down 133. You probably know Kevin Shortsman, who's our public works guy. And this is where CDOT comes in. Is he applied for basically putting a curb, building a curb between the two lanes so that when you pull into the middle, you're protected. And he wanted to do it on several other intersections. And CDOT said, we're not doing that. So anyway, something to think about. Okay. It's noted. Yes. So I guess the police department's not issuing any more tickets. So got that. It doesn't help you. But okay. Thank you. Any other comments for CDOT? Thank you guys for being here. I think we're going to have a continued discussion on intersections with Garfield County and CDOT. We'll see where that goes. That has to do with Southbridge and Highway 82. We have some concerns there. Well, thank you so much for having us here today. We do appreciate our time. And we do appreciate all the support and the communication that we have with the county and the local agencies up here. Yeah, we appreciate the work you do. We appreciate your employees that are, you know, in the area working on the roads. And it's a tough job. And sometimes can be dangerous. Yeah. No, we all have challenges for sure. Glad you're helping out your employees with stipends, too. Okay. That will take another five-minute break and a little reconvene. It's the Board of County Commissioners. We will go to our agenda for the other hand. Yes, one is. Thank you. Thank you. We'll adjourn our work session and go into our regular meeting with the Board of County Commissioners for June. What is the date of the year? June 15th. And before we can get to our elected officials, I do need to open it up for public comment. If there's any public comment or something that's not on the agenda. Let's see anybody raising their hands. And nobody online, Tao. Okay. With that, let's go right to elected officials, Commissioner Stamson, concerning the presentation and update by the Federal Mineral Lease District. We have Greg Rippey and Drew Gorgay here, two familiar faces. So, you have the floor, Mr. Adams. Well, I'll turn it over to two of them, but let me just say both of them do a great job. I, personally, as a commissioner, and Greg and Drew have been with us from the inception. And I know they're as proud as I am, a Federal Mineral Lease. I'm just going to say $45 million given out to entities, even more than that, plus $45 million plus. That has done great things for Garfield County and many entities. So, with that, we'll turn it over to them. Yeah. Please come forward. I will give you the floor. I just will say that the Federal Mineral Lease District is a kind of, it's kind of a legacy type of a district. And Commissioner Martin, John Martin, did a lot on that to get that established by going to the state legislature and getting laws that allowed for the Federal Mineral Lease District to exist. And that's created a lot of positive projects in Garfield County. So, you have the floor. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm Greg Rippey, President of the Garfield County Federal Mineral Lease. And between the two of you, you kind of said what we needed to say here. But as you are well aware, enabling legislation was in 2011. We have never come back before the Board of County Commissioners to report. So, this is our 15th anniversary. So, I kind of like that reporting schedule. Do not expect to see me in 15 years. But it's interesting. In 2011, Mr. Gorgay, sitting to my right that I'll speak about just a little bit more in a second, was county attorney. And he was charged with moving this forward. So, in 2011, we got the enabling legislation that allowed the creation of Federal Mineral Lease Districts in the state of Colorado. In 2012, there had to be a little bit of cleanup in that. And Drew shepherded that through as well to be in full compliance with the GAO. And to protect the citizens of Garfield County's bill payments in perpetuity. So, thank you to this Board of County Commissioners for their vision to see the potential of a Federal Mineral Lease District in Garfield County. As Commissioner Sampson told you, there are three people that have been there since the inception. I think that has a lot to do with the stability and how this board functions. It has been Commissioner Sampson, myself, and legal counsel, and now District Manager, Drew Gorgay. I'd like to take this opportunity to give a public thank you to Mr. Drew Gorgay. Because without his steadfastness, without his detail-oriented nature, we would not have the program that we have today. It is not the same program that it was 2015. It is so much better. And as you know, we started really from a blank page. We had a little bit of direction from the state of Utah that does it differently with their Federal Mineral Lease dollars. But we kind of, not kind of, we did make it up. And we have made it better year after year. And I think the agencies and special districts that are grantees of this district would tell you the same thing. We have been receptive to their requests for changes on how we can get better. I wouldn't be doing this for 15 years. I do not get paid for it. If I didn't believe it was a good use of my time. If it wasn't beneficial to the citizens of Garfield County. One of the things that I'm also very proud of, and I'm going to let Drew give the whole numbers that really talk about the success of the program. But one of the things that I'm proud of is, by statute, we're allowed to take 10% of the program funding every year for administrative cost. We did that the first year, and we've done it one more time since. So our administrative cost as a percentage of the $47 million is minuscule. It's nowhere near 10%. And we've only had to take our 10% one time in order to fund our administrative costs. Thank you again. Thank you to the agencies and special districts that are grantees. It is a great relationship. It's fun. And I think it is clearly beneficial to every citizen of Garfield County. And I'd like to turn it over to Mr. Gorgay, who has the fun numbers that I think you'll agree. Prove out that this is one of the most impressive programs that imaginable. Thank you, commissioners. Commissioners, good morning. And thank you for having us. And thanks to our president, President Greg Rippey. I'll take the same few seconds here to shine the light on Greg. Greg is the only president that the Federal Mineral Lease District has had in these 15 years. And in 2012, he and I traveled to the state legislature twice to testify before each chamber on the cleanup legislation. And as we were making that drive, I was not only thinking to myself, I asked aloud, why does someone who has done everything that Greg had done to that point in his life 15 years ago, held public office, carrying on one of Garfield County's most historic families, very successful in business, why is someone giving so much time to a volunteer activity? Greg is an absolute example, the very best example of public service and selflessness and service before self, which are also values of Rotary. We were also Rotary brothers here in Glenwood Springs Rotary. And the Federal Mineral Lease District would not be what it is today without him. So every bit as much recognition to Greg Rippey, to Commissioner Sampson, the only commissioner representative on the district board in the last 15 years. And we also should recognize the late Steve Rippey, who served as a director, Director Eric Schmela, who was one of the inaugural directors, and our current director, Phil Vaughn. All of them have represented the citizens of Garfield County with great skill and commitment and attention to detail, too. So anyway, it was 15 years and two days ago that this board passed Resolution 1131. That's the resolution that formed the FML District. The cleanup legislation required a reaffirmation, which you did a year later, on June 18th of 2012. The FML District is an independent body, corporate and politic, and it falls in a category of governments like public instrumentality. That's like a housing authority or a library. It's an entity with a single purpose. And our purpose is to take the distribution that we receive from the Department of Local Affairs every year, usually at the end of August or early September, and in accordance with the federal legislation that sent it to them, use that money for specific purposes within the county. There are three ways to use it. You can use the funds either for planning purposes, construction and maintenance of public facilities. That's been our main focus over the years, as well as the provision of public services. The state and federal statutes sync up, and we can only grant the funds to political subdivisions of the state of Colorado. It's surprising to know, I would think, that we have had 32 different local governments within the county to receive FML funds. You wouldn't think that there are that many local governments within the county's borders, but there are. And through the spring cycle, we've given a total of 419 grants to those 32 different entities for a total of now over $47,280,500. Thank you. We have grant programs twice a year, once in the spring and then again in the fall. Within those cycles, we have two programs. There's a traditional grant program where the maximum grant award is $1 million, a mini grant program, which Director and President Rippey really championed. The maximum award there is $30,000, and then a grantee of the year award program, which is an additional $15,000 for whoever does the best job within our program rules. After the legislation was cleaned up, the first grant program was in the spring of 2012. And if you're interested, the single largest grant that we've ever given is to a joint grant between Colorado Mountain College and the library district, Garfield County Public Library District. That was $760,000 for the Mortgage Commons Community Meeting Space. For the entire life of the district, Commissioner Sampson, our Director Sampson, has been a very vocal and very deeply committed champion of governments working together on joint grants, being co-applicants, and to try to work together for their common interest. We recently began to, we went back in our last budget, in the current budget, 2026 budget, prepared last year, and went back and looked at every single grant to try to analyze where this money was going. And there are a couple of dozen categories, but I've broken out on the one-page handout the top five categories. This is through the end of last year. And those five categories are streets, roads, and bridges, water and sewer, buildings, parks and recreation, and equipment. And I could have gone to six enlisted facilities, but the clear policy preference of this board is to the construction and maintenance of public facilities. Really favoring bricks and mortar projects that are shovel-ready, as distinguished from plans, or as distinguished from services. We never fund anybody's operating budget. This is all, these are all services that, excuse me, these are all assets that will help Garfield County citizens immediately. If you want examples, I did include a copy of the recent press release to give you a sense of the types of projects that we fund. There's a lot of public safety in here. There are vehicles, paving streets. We build bridges. We put roofs on schools. And when I say we, I'm really saying you, because it's the Garfield County commissioners who created the district to make all these things possible. And the commissioners, of course, give away more than their fair share every year to nonprofits through a couple of different, and local governments through a couple of different funding sources. And I'll also echo Greg's word on fun. This is, my wife calls it my passion project. Director Vaughn calls it a labor of love. Call it whatever you want. I'm certain this is an outstanding use of time and has been for 15 years. And it's very humbling to have been able to serve in this way for so long. So I appreciate that. The last thing I wanted to leave you with is just sort of a current snapshot. This is through the end of last month. We currently have 44 open grants to 17 grantees with 8.4 and change million outstanding in the bank and invested almost all of it to the penny. We've got 10.86 million, and that makes our net position before the dola distribution this year at 2.3 million. Very healthy. We actually fund all of our operating expenses for the year with less than the first five months of interest that we earn on investments. So there are actually zero public funds funding our operations. We effectively have been self-sustaining for a very long time. I think I'm safe to say at least 10 to 12 years based on interest earnings. Maybe some other important facts for the public to know are that there is not a penny of tax money in any of this program. All of this is paid by industry and as a condition of their lease to extract the minerals on federal lands, and that a portion of those payments trickles back to you, to all of us, to alleviate the impacts from their activities. So not one cent of ad valorem taxes or sales taxes funds any of this. So all these benefits, swimming pools, trails, bridges, streets, major infrastructure, emergency communications equipment, new firearms for a police, one of the police departments. We're about to reimburse on that. All kinds of things have happened without the citizens being taxed at all. So that about covers it, and I hope that was short enough. But we're very grateful and hard at work and an express thank you to the three of you for coming to our awards event every January. It means a lot to have you there. And we are proud to celebrate every one of our local governments who work so hard every day without any recognition. Just proud to celebrate their accomplishments within our program. Thank you. As I say, Drew, talk a little bit about how much interest we've earned and the different investments and how we've gone about that. I feel that we've been very, very good, wise stewards in doing that. Yeah. We, I think the, there are a few keys there. I'll just give you sort of year-to-date numbers. And this is straight out of our board packet from our meeting just last week. So these numbers are through May 31st. Just year-to-date, $173,600 and some dollars in total interest earned. Our operating expenses for the year come in at $149,475. And those are the administrative operating expenses. Those aren't the grant programs themselves. Our directors are subject to the same local budget and audit laws that you are. We have an investment policy like you do. They are charged to be, to exercise their best business judgment as fiduciaries of all the dollars in their care. So we've diversified both locally with Alpine Bank as well as Colo Trust and then C-Slip, the Centennial State Liquid Investment Pool. Money market account at Alpine Bank, two accounts with Colo Trust and then again C-Slip. C-Slip is relatively new. They're coming up on two years or right at two years and they are the fastest growing local government investment pool in the country. They're about to hit $1 billion in assets. They've got over 55 participants. We were sort of an early adopter based on a longstanding business relationship with their executive director. And I hope that's enough. Okay, Perry. Nope. Doing a great job. Yeah. You know, I mean, the municipalities really appreciate this. Garfield County has not applied for a grant. Maybe sometime in the future we will. You are eligible. We are eligible. But we have set this up and it's really, it's helped us because we don't have the municipalities coming in front of us like they were before asking for funding for big projects. So, please do federal mineral lease district. Do you see question marks about future funding, especially when our governor has really slowed down oil and gas drilling on federal lands? So, about four years ago, we saw our funding take a huge dip. And we are about a year in arrears on revenues and new leases. New leases went to nothing. So, we weren't getting any money from there. And we had the discussion that, you know, maybe it's time to wrap this up because it just doesn't. And the next year we got 5.4. We have had somebody from DOLA come in and explain to us how they work on receiving the monies. My best guess, and take it for what it's worth, is that we're going to remain about the same. We've been pretty solid in about the $2 to $2.5 million per year. We do get some jumps every three years or something that we don't really expect. We are very happy to take them and put them back out in the county. But as opposed to when our revenues were down to $650,000 per year, I don't expect that kind of dip again. And so, I think our future is good. Right. Yeah. The district board has adjusted to conditions just as you have to every year, changing economic conditions. And there have been times when we have only had a mini-grant program, and we just adjust accordingly. The distribution last year was just under $2 million, $1.967 million. We'll know what we get by the end of the summer, and whether the distribution is $500,000 or $600,000 or $5 to $6 million, we just adjust. Okay. Public comments. Do we have anybody from the public who would like to comment? Fred. I was just only going to share. It's great to see you guys. And the only thing that I would share differently or in addition is the program has done so well over these years, and it's in addition to what we already, the municipalities also get. And so, I just want to make sure people did know that. So, for example, the city of Rifle gets, I think, last, 2025 was like around $400,000. So, this is just capitalized and leveraged in addition to that, which is a super impact. I would comment on that, Fred. That's absolutely true. But one of the great things about this program is special districts are eligible to get the money. They don't have the access through it, the other programs. But in this program, special districts that certainly feel the impacts of extractive industries, this program allows them to have access to some capital that they otherwise wouldn't. Absolutely. Yeah. So, that takes in hospital districts, park and rec districts. School districts. Fire districts. Fire districts. Conservancy districts. Yeah. So. Yeah, exactly. That's how we get through. Dave, did you want to make some comments? I was just going to comment on the way that the program was run. You know, there's many different grant programs that municipalities can go after. But the way this one is managed is just, it's common sense. Right from the application itself, and we write all our own grants in Newcastle. And it's a pleasure writing these grants because they're a common sense approach. They're not over the top. And then the approval process or the review process just appears to be very fair. We haven't gotten every single grant we've gone after, but when we haven't, we've understood. So, I just want to commend the board on the way they actually manage this. Very easy for the municipalities to work with. So, thank you. Thanks. Dave, you've also been the grantee of the year, two or three times, right? Many, many times. Yes. Yes. I just want to echo what Dave said. But also from working with the staff is incredible. Through the FMLB district, Mr. Gorgie is always very responsive to questions and issues and items that come up. It's the smoothest grant process I've ever worked through. So, it's just a fantastic benefit to the municipalities. Who's your administrative assistant at this time? We have a fairly new one now. And it's Michelle Coopersmith, who also works as an administrative assistant with the Silk Conservancy District. And because we have such a great attorney making sure that we don't have any sniff of controversy, we have an MOU that if it appears she will recuse herself from any discussion if the district, the Conservancy District, may have an application in front of us. Michelle's doing a great job. We've only had four administrative assistants during our life as well. So, that consistency helps. Yeah. And the MOU, Ms. Coopersmith recuses herself on both sides. So, she doesn't touch any grant applications in her role with the Silk Water Conservancy District. And she doesn't handle the application from the FML District. So, hands off on both sides. And it's been approved by both boards. So, pretty good. And after 15 years, we thought it was time to take a bold step into the 21st century. So, we finally started sending grant agreements using DocuSign instead of ink and paper. And it saves a lot of money and time. We're working through the bugs with a few folks now. But it'll be a big, big improvement. You can tell them about the dinosaur director you have that still does it. We're going to be committed to paper for at least two, two and a half more years. I understand. I understand. I understand. But anyway, I guess one last thanks to the county manager and county attorney and the administrative staff. We interact once a year or so just for the reappointment of directors. And the same gratitude that was expressed to us, I'll express right back to the county. It goes very smoothly, very easily every year. So, thanks for that. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for the presentation. Thanks. Okay. With that. 47 million. 7 million. With that, Mr. Jarman, word to you for our county manager update. Yes, thank you. Good morning. We're going to transition into the Human Services Commission docket. And we have, I think, three presentations along those lines. The first is the Mountain Family Health with Dana Peterson, who's the chief workforce. Is that the agenda? Oh, yeah. We do need to. Sorry. I skipped right over that. There's only one item. So, is it important to skip or we get to stuff? It looks like there's two. It looks like, yeah, there's just one. Approved bills, which is, that's why. We do want to do that. Yes, I do want to ask for approval of bills, but I don't think we'd like to ask for approval of the consent agenda. Mr. Chairman, I would move that we approve the consent agenda, which is the shortest I've ever seen in 18 years. Approve the bills. I have never seen that before. That's a first. Okay, do I have a second? I'll second it. Any other discussion? All in question? All in favor? Aye. Now to you, Mr. Jarron. Thank you. Thanks, Heather, for keeping me straight. Hello, Heather, keeping us honest in what we do. Thank you. Three updates this morning under your Human Services Commission docket. And the first, as I mentioned before, this is an update from Mountain Family Health and Dana Peterson, the Chief Workforce and Development Officer. And Jan Halperin, Major Gifts Officer, are here to present. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. How are you all? I hope you weren't here at 8 o'clock. I was not here at 8 o'clock. Bola gave us the heads up. She was like, come till 10. So here we are. Thank you all so much for having us. Dana, you've been here before us in what? Three different capacities. At least. At least. Maybe four. It's fine. Interesting. I love my job. But now I'm here with Mountain Family and my colleague Jan, and we just have a quick update on the work that we're doing. And you have it in your packet, but I'm going to give you kind of a different summary, I guess, of that work. So thank you on behalf of Mountain Family Health Centers. Thank you so much to the Garfield County Board of County Commissioners for your continued partnership and support through our Human Services Grant Program. Your investment helps ensure that Garfield County residents have access to high-quality, integrated health care, regardless of insurance status, income, or ability to pay. Together, we are strengthening the health of individuals, families, and our entire community. Because, as you know, health care access is not only an individual issue. It is a community issue. When residents have access to preventative care, chronic disease management, behavioral health services, and affordable treatment, our schools, our employers, our families, and our local economy are all stronger. Your support helps prevent residents in Garfield County from having to choose between their health and their financial stability. For that, we are deeply grateful. I'm going to give you a few updates about how many people we're serving in Garfield County just for this year. So from January through May 2026, so the first five months of the year, Mountain Family Health Centers has served overall more than 10,500 unique patients across our organization. Now, we serve people in Basalt, which is technically Pitkin, Eagle County. We also have patients that are served in Avon and Gypsum. So now I'm going to talk a little bit more about the Garfield County work. Oh, one more overall statistic. We have served, we've had more than 25,000 patient visits already this year. So across our organization, we're serving a lot of people. In Garfield County specifically, we've served over 6,400 unique patients. In our clinics, we have clinics in Glenwood Springs, Glenwood Springs High School, Roaring Fork High School, and Rifle. As y'all are familiar, we share a parking lot with the county. In Garfield County alone, we've enrolled over 1,495 residents in our sliding fee scale program, which goes up to 400% of the federal poverty level. We also have assisted more than 465 residents with insurance enrollment through Medicaid, CHIP Plus, and Marketplace plans. So we have a team of people who helps get people on the plans that they might qualify for. Our integrated model provides medical services, behavioral health services, dental services, pharmacy services, care coordination, health education, and social support services all under one roof. I'm going to talk a little bit now about the growing needs in Garfield County. So one of the most significant challenges facing this county is the growing number of residents without health insurance. Today, nearly 4,500 uninsured patients rely on Mountain Family Health Centers for care, resulting in approximately 10,000 visits per year in Garfield County alone. We found that people are not enrolling in Medicaid right now due to partly confusion and fear around the federal legislation, immigration questions, things like that. For every 1% decrease in Medicaid enrollment, it costs Mountain Family Health Centers about $150,000. So there's a large expense to this decrease, not only for the individual and their financial pocketbook, but to the whole community. Say that again. For every what? For every 1% decrease in Medicaid enrollment, it's about $150,000 cost to our bottom line. So we have $12,900 Medicaid, so it's about $120,000 to $150,000? I'm not sure. Math is maybe I'm better with people. $12,000, yeah, $12,000, $10,000, yeah, it's $120,000. So that's a lot of dollars. Yep. Okay, thank you. Yes, okay. And so we just want to continue to encourage people to enroll in Medicaid, and we will help support them as they navigate the system. Starting in 2027, Medicaid will need people to re-enroll every six months and do the verification of employment or job verification. And so we are working hard to make sure we have the staff and the supports to support the people who need these services. Okay, next page. So through our Health for All Fund, which is where our dollars raised and donations go, Mountain Family ensures that uninsured patients can access preventative care and annual exams, chronic disease management, behavioral health services, vaccinations and screenings, diagnostic testing, minor procedures, specialty referrals, dental cleanings. We do the gambit. Many visits cost patients as little as $20 through our sliding fee scale program. However, the average visit costs Mountain Family $544 in staff, labs, and care coordination. And that's much, much lower than the average visit at our local hospitals. But that gap between $20 is what they're paying and $544, that's what we raise money to support that gap. So it's our mission, and we're happy to do it, and it's so important. Because when community members can access affordable care early, they're less likely to delay treatment, they experience preventative medical crises, or rely on emergency services. Access to primary care improves outcomes not only for individual patients, but for the health and well-being of the entire community. So what are we doing to continue to improve outcomes? We want to make sure that we're measuring the outcomes that make a difference, right? So here are some cool stats that are just related to Garfield County residents. We've increased childhood immunizations from 35% to 48% over the last year. We've increased cervical cancer screening rates from 61% to 65%. We've increased blood pressure control among patients with hypertension from 66% to 72%. And we've decreased poor diabetic control from 27% to 22%. So we're getting better on the diabetic control. Additionally, we're currently meeting or exceeding 11 of our 15 quality measures already year-to-date, and we're on track to achieve our year-end goals. So as an HR professional, my focus is always biased toward the amazing humans doing the work for us. And strong healthcare systems work, excuse me, and strong healthcare systems require a strong workforce. This year, Mountain Family continued investing in career pathways and workforce development. We've onboarded, in the last 12 months, we've onboarded 12 medical assistants, 13 patient service reps, seven appointment schedulers, five dental assistants, two health information management staff, one dentist, one pediatrician, one behavioral health provider, one OB-GYN, and one physician assistant. These efforts help create local career opportunities while ensuring sustainable access to care throughout Garfield County. We employ about 190 staff and create career opportunities and ladders for them all. The demand for affordable healthcare continues to grow as more families experience insurance instability and financial challenges. The county's support allows Mountain Family Health Centers to remain a critical safety net provider and ensures that residents can receive care before healthcare concerns become health crises. Thank you for your commitment to build a healthier Garfield County for everyone. Thank you. And you have a thing to add. No, I just want to say that we've, well, I do have something to add. I want to add that we've seen a generous increase in individual philanthropy over the last year through the efforts, not just of our staff, but through our board of directors and some of our committed donors. And we've started to create a new board, which will be our development advisory board, to help us reach even further out into the communities that we serve for those philanthropic dollars. And thank you for that. We know with administrations that your funding can change between administrations. Yes. Dana, your school program, I want to talk about that. You still have school nurses, correct? So how does that? So we have three school-based health centers. We have one at the Roaring Fork High School, one at the Glenwood Springs High School, and one at Avon Elementary School. Those programs run full gambit, so they do medical, dental, and behavioral health in those spaces. We don't provide school nurses to the schools. That's through the school district, yes. So we are a separate entity for people to come if they have a cough. It's pediatric care just in the schools because that's where the kids are. So it's more convenient, hopefully, for the kids and the parents is the goal. Great. Carrie, questions? No. Mike, thank you. Thank you for what you do. Thank you all so much. Thank you. Appreciate it. 190 employees and 11 employees. It is. It's fun, though, most days. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you all. Thank you. We're back to you. Great. Second on our HSC commission this morning. This is Home Care and Hospice of the Valley. Tom Heald is who I have as executive director. Is Tom online? No. So we will push that when Tom has the opportunity to come back to the board. So let's move on to Contexture. And Sherry Corey is here, who's the Contexture director of development and engagement. So good morning. Welcome. Morning. Good morning. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good morning, commissioners. Thank you very much. As stated, I'm Sherry Corey, the director of development and engagement at Contexture. Contexture is the health information exchange that serves Colorado and Arizona. And I represent Colorado. But here today, I'm here to give a report out for the human services grant that our organization received for our web-based secure technology that allows for closed loop referrals and care coordination for social determinants of health. There were, let's see, four recipients of the grant that allowed us to help our community community, Alpine Legal, Community Health Services, Garpo County Department of Human Services, and River Center of Newcastle, maintained and engaged and partnered in the platform in this initiative for our community. I think you have a report out of our key desired outcomes. I won't read through each one of them, but at a high level, really what we do with the community resource network is improve care coordination, increase access to resources within our community. We have a bi-directional referral capability that really does allow us to do closed loop referrals. What that means is that we have clear communication of the needs of a person within our community. They are screened for social determinants of health. This is transportation, food, housing, mental, behavioral health services. Once the need is identified, then those resources are found within our technology, our platform, and referrals are made. And so closed loop means that you also know when that referral is picked up and if it's been addressed and if services have been rendered. We believe that it enhances collaboration within our community and improves health and social outcomes. I think some major activities that we performed this last year with these four participants, collectively 43 referrals were identified within this community for those four organizations. The categories of the services that were needed on those screenings that took place and the referrals that took place through our platform was housing and shelter, as you can imagine. Number one, senior and older adult services, financial service assistance and benefits, mental health services, primary and specialty care and family services. So again, using a shared platform with shared technologies to really connect those individuals to those services. One of the things I think to point out, I don't know if you have the PowerPoint presentation, even though 43 outgoing referrals were made, that helped 36 clients within our community. And then these organizations received 71 incoming referrals, which served 64 clients. within our community. You have some stats there also that you can see specific to West Mountain. West Mountain in general encompasses Garfield, Eagle and Pickin. So the numbers previously were just for the health services grant for those community-based organizations. All of West Mountain though, in general, you can see the numbers there of outgoing referrals and incoming referrals made to date. Again, on the next slide, outgoing referral types. We always like to see really what are the types of services that are needed within our community. I think, you know, from just conversational, everybody says housing, food, those types of things. So it's really nice to see how it breaks down on at least those four organizations. We've got lots of stats and analytics of really what does it look like in general in Colorado, or what does it look like in general with any specific county. But we did want to break it down for the four that are actually utilizing the services for this grant. I think as a result of our efforts, clients are experiencing more timely connection to services. We do have an ROI that we've created using this technology, which really decreases the time substantially of, if you want to say, emailing and faxing referrals instead of using an electronic technology that allows immediate notification to the needs within our community and then the immediate addressing of those needs has reduced that by at least 50%. One of the significant results of these efforts is really understanding how a community can use one shared platform for this. Because as you can imagine, siloed technology within individual organizations is hard to really understand what's happening with that transitions of care. So when you can collaborate and use one standard platform and technology that is shared amongst many participants within our community, it gives a real good visualization of the needs of our community, the needs of that person individually, and how quickly we're getting those needs and service to them. So I think from a high level, that's my report out today. But if you have any questions, I am happy to answer. I get strong support from our grant committee from both our human services department and the health department. Thank you. Thank you. You think this is going to grow on the number of agencies that participate? Yes. But for right now, I mean, it seems like you could grow quite a bit. Yes. Yes. I do still envision us growing. I think this last year, context year in general, again, we encompass now the entire state of Colorado, where this was primarily focused in Western Colorado for many, many years. We now have expanded into the Front Range and then also Contexture and General Services Arizona as well. But I do see the expansion. I know that not this particular funding, but we are working with our jails to do what I would like to call a reentry into the community and using this type of technology to understand the needs of those individuals before they are released back into the community to understand what types of services we can get into their hands. So I know that there's some expansion there. We're working with a lot of our districts and then also with our jails, not only in the Western Colorado, but also in the Front Range. All of our hospitals participate, which is really nice. That helps with the hospital transformation for them transitioning from hospital to community. We work very closely with a lot of the community-based organizations that you are hearing from today. Mountain Family Health Centers, primary care and hospitals and other services within the community. Long-term care services, mental health, so Health Solutions West, which services our community, are on board utilizing these types of systems. Yeah. Questions, comments? Thank you for what you do. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Back to you, Mr. Gardner. Okay, thank you. Moving on to your Board of Human Services docket this morning. I think Sheila Strauss. Good morning, Sheila. She's here to make that presentation for the report in your packet. And there are five items there. So good morning. I know Sharon's on vacation, I believe. Sharon is on vacation. Well deserved. Yeah. Morning. Good morning. Sheila Strauss with the Garfield County Department of Human Services. Good morning. Good morning. All right. So our EFPEBT distribution. For the month of May 2026, client and provider disbursements for allocated programs totaled $389,357.79. Client benefits and food assistance and LEAP totaled $1,381,509. Our total EFT EBT disbursements for May came to $1,770,867.26. You may have noted that the amount was a little bit more than eligible children. Eligible children can receive a one-time payment of $120 to cover the cost of food over the summer when school is not in session. And that is distributed in May. And that is distributed in May. Barely. About $120. Okay. We have a lot of kids. Yeah. It's through a couple weeks. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay, gentlemen. It's an action item for EFT EBT. Mr. Chairman, I move we approve the EFT EBT amount of $1,770,867.26 as described. And allow the search sign. Okay. All right. All right. All right. Okay. Got it. Moving on. All right. All right. The state entered into a contract with Talix Corporation, a provider of Equifax verification services for use of the work number. The state and the county entered into a contract that allows the county to participate with the state acting as a pass-through entity to benefit from bulk pricing on income verification for the work number. This amendment adds an additional term to the contract and adjusts the amount. The amendment extension term is July 1, 2026 through June 30th, 2027. The amount is $39,931 with a total for all fiscal years at $101,178.24. We would like you to consider approval of the amendment to the original contract. So they are doing your income verification? Yes. For Medicaid and lease? For all of our economic security programs. Is it appropriate to do that for all four years? No, it's usually done for the one year and then they have renewals. Yeah, so that's... We move that we approve the contract with, you call it TALEX? Is that what it is? TALEX. I think that's what it is. For Equifix verification services for the amount of $39,931 to cover from July 1st of 26th through June 30th of 27th. Allowed the judge sign. All motion. All favored? All right. All right. Okay, got it. All right. A lot of enthusiasm there. Yeah. Third item is consideration and approval for the state of Colorado Department of Human Services contract between the Colorado Department of Human Services Office of Economic Security and Garfield County for the delivery of TANF services. This contract outlines the roles and responsibilities of the state of Colorado and Garfield County DHS for delivery of the TANF program. The contract term is 7-1-26 through 6-30-27. The program funded under this allocation is Colorado Works. The current allocation is $1,339,932. And the maintenance of effort, which is the county share, is $192,953, which is roughly 14%. The final allocation for state fiscal year 27 will be determined in late summer. Temporary assistance to needy families? Yes. Thank you. How many participants do we have in there for 1.3? I do not know the answer to that, but I can get that for you. Sharon always talks about economic development. This puts $1,340,000 into our economy. And it costs Garfield County $193,000 in our part. So those dollars do come back into the county. Primarily food and shelter, I would imagine. It's an action item. I'll leave this one, Mr. Chair. I move to approve the state of Colorado Department of Human Services contract between Colorado Department of Human Services Office and the Economic Security of Garfield County for the delivery of the TANF services. Contract term is 7-1-26 through June 30 of 27. The county's effort or share is $192,953. Sorry. Sorry. Okay. I'll call a motion. All in favor? Aye. All right. Moving along. Okay. The last item is a consideration and signature approval for the 2026-27 CHP Foster Care Independence Program plan. The CHP Foster Care Independence Program is for youth in foster care over the age of 14. The program is designed to prepare youth for adulthood and independence as they transition from adolescence to young adults. The performance period is October 1, 26, through September 30, 2027. The requested grant amount is $19,669. Do we have any kids in this program right now? We do. We use the funding for any children who are in foster care who are 14 and older. That is when they become eligible to access those funds. They're used for things that aren't covered or we don't have money in our other child welfare budgets for the 14 to 18-year-olds. Once a child turns 18 and they choose to leave the foster care system, they can access CHP After Care, which is case management, and access to some additional funding. They can be short-term. I need help with housing. I need something. So it can be short-term and they get case management with that or they can choose to be on it up until age 21 if they would like. And those young individuals are located in Garfield County? They're Garfield County. They're not outside. Most often, yes. Usually if a youth is over the age of 18 and chooses to remain in the system or leave the system, they'll be referred to the services in the community that they are living in. We do have youth who we do have custody of who are not living in Garfield County that the funding is used for sometimes also because we provide the case management services to them. So we access some of this funding for salary. Thank you. Okay. Another action item. Mr. Chair, I move for signature approval of the 26-27 Chafee Foster Care Independent Program Plan. This program is designed to prepare youth for adulthood and independence as a transition from adolescence into young adults. The performance period is October 1, 2026 through September 30, 2027, and the grant amount is $19,669. Okay. Call the question. All in favor. All in favor. All right. All right. All right. Thank you, Sheila. Thank you. Do we have any questions on program updates at all that are in your... Okay. I always look at Medicaid and it seems to be staying about the same. Yes. Thank you. Thanks, Sheila. Okay. Mr. Jarman. Okay. Thank you. Moving on. Now acting as the Board of Health in that capacity, we'll bring up your Public Health Director, Joshua Williams, who is going to talk to you about a budget supplement requests from payments received from the CDC's infrastructure and the EHA grant. So they'll explain that. Good morning, Joshua. Maybe before you start on that, Josh, do you want to go through any of these, your health reports, do you want to go through any of these contracts for us or do you think they're all pretty much business achievable? Yeah, a little bit less in some of them. Not a whole lot of percentage decrease from previous years. Like the local planning support dollars, been down to 212. It's been 240 in the past and a little bit of decreases as we look at working with through the state's budgeting. We were able to work with Colorado, Colorado Association of Public Health officials, as well as working with CCI this last year to when they tried to cut the local public health funding by significant portion. We were able to get them to retract on some of the state's budget. dollars that you're seeing with our annual contracts with the CDPHE and it's that time of year, so we've got quite a few contracts with the state that are on here. We are doing a chronic disease, so the number three, we're working on a chronic disease prevention assessment. We're currently moving through that and so that's kind of an additional, some extra that we're working on that's coming in to map out. We did a survey, got some feedback and looking at access to mental health care, access to care, and then alcohol and substance use were the top three, you know, feedback from the community and then we'll be working with Hickin County on that kind of a regional approach since a lot of our folks work up there and, you know, we mix across the population, so that's a positive thing. We'll be able to map out, I think, looking into our next cycle of our public health improvement process, which is coming up in in the next two years. So, we're feeding into that and it also lines up with our public health improvement planning agenda with mental health care access, you know, that is a priority with the commission. A little bit decrease with the maternal child health programs. The number five is the air quality, you know, is the, probably the biggest reduction there from 90,000 down to this 4,857. So, it's like 90,000 down? Yeah, because that was the state contract. Right. I thought the state contract was the main, we dropped our, what we were doing, but states dropped theirs as well. Yeah, so, so part of the process has been negotiating with the state to look at the changes in what was supplemented with ARS. Right. So, a lot of that funding with the state paid the contractor, which is air resource specialist. Right. Right. So, they're no longer going to be contracted and our staff will do the maintenance and the interface with the equipment. And, because the only, only station left is the one in rifle. It's currently on the library. We're looking to propose to move that to the public health building after the roof and working with Dave there. But that's, that's all that's left. And so, that's for our staff time in responding to alerts and doing the initial investigation on the equipment. And so, the state will be the, maintaining their own equipment and it's all state equipment. So, there's no careful county equipment in that process other than the ozone monitor. So, we're, we're down to that for their, from 300,000 to 4,000 there. Yeah, it's, for a couple of reasons, budget being part of it. Absolutely. There's not as much oil and gas activity. Absolutely. Absolutely. And we have sequestered all that equipment that was bottom at Mesa and that's all sitting in stage, you know, we still have it. It's in storage. Yeah, it's in storage. So, okay. And then we are working on a dental health assessment. So, the regional oral health specialist model is going away that we've been working under for, I think, the last decade. And so, but they are paying for an oral health assessment for the region that we are at 25,000. So, we'll be working on that and trying to look at a gap analysis. So, our dental program is going to be cut back quite a bit then? The dental program has already been cut back quite a bit from the state. And so, I think we're down to 50,000 from where it was above 100,000 there. But part of that is the obligation from the state as well. So, I'm working with Carrie to look at like what we don't have to include the state on anymore. And it's more of an independent local program as we continue forward. We are still working with community health services up in Aspen as the main dental provider and oversight with our contracts. And so, it will stay the same. But that's also why we're working with the University of Pennsylvania. It had in the past with a doctor there to look at some supplemental funding for the dental program. And hopefully, we'll be able to maintain services for 1,400 or so kids here locally. That's right. So, we're looking at other funding sources there. Okay. Thank you for that update. Now, we're to your budget supplement. Yeah. Thanks for asking. Yeah. I just wanted to -- you had quite a little -- We had quite a few of them on there. Yeah. To give an update. So, thank you. Yes, sir. Thank you. Budget supplement request number one, looking for received CDC infrastructure. So, these is a budget supplement request for payment received from the CDC infrastructure. In May 2026, funds to be used for training and travel expenses for public health employees. And that is part of our CDC infrastructure grant. That's been a five-year grant. Runs through 2027. Part of coming out of COVID, the money that they set aside to go to local public health departments for infrastructure improvements. We used, as an example, Mercedes Wilson, who was on our staff as an epic -- you know, as a communicable disease contact tracer. Right. Was funded as part of that. And as well as last year, we took a lot of that and put in training. And we did some of that culture and staff development work that we did last year. And so, we're looking to put it into training and travel similarly to what we did last year. And it will provide the next phase of some of the staff development. Okay. So, this will go in -- this is income. $25,000 looks like $917. Is that correct? Yeah. $26,917. $26,000. Any better -- It's a positive supplement? Yes, sir. It's just coming in. Yeah. Coming in. And you're going to spend it for training and travel. Does there then need to be a budget supplement on the expense side as well? Or how does that work? Jamaica's not here, so I'm looking at you for -- No, for sure. I'm trying to think. I think it was anticipated as a revenue. Wasn't it, Joshua? We would need a supplement. I will check on that. And if we do -- It has to be on the expense side. Okay. So, it's money in, money out. Because it was a grant. I'll have -- That's a good question. Thank you. We'll take the almost $27,000. We need a motion for a budget supplement. For how much? $26,970. Thank you. All in favor? All right. Much easier when we have those as opposed to the house. So, thank you, John. Yes, sir. Anything else? Well, we've got the second one, which is -- Oh, I didn't know there was a second one. Yeah. And I know, you know, let's look what they have. They have new accounts and expense accounts listed on there. But -- So, the second one is a budget supplement request for payment received from the National Environmental Health Association. Grant funds for the consumer protection program. These funds are set to be used for training, which is for standard 1.8, with our voluntary national standards programs for a consumer protection program. So, this is another revenue coming in that the staff, especially, say, Rebecca Rogers on our staff, puts in for the grant application with NEHA. And then part of that is working with the national standards, which is looking at, like, setting a bar for how we approach the consumer protection programs. And part of that's training for the staff. Is that this one? It's the $8,000. $8,000. Any NEHA funds? Yes, sir. I'm sorry. I don't have my glasses, and I cannot read those. They're tiny. I have my glasses. I can barely read them. So, that's why I asked. I have to ask. The amount is, because I can't read it. Okay. Mr. Chair, I move that we grant the allocation of supplemental funds for the National Environmental Health Program grant funds in the amount of $8,000 funds to be used for the training and standards of 1.8 employees supplies for the program. Second. All the motion in favor? Aye. And Shari's here. So, Shari, these funds are coming in as revenue. And as revenue, will we have to do another supplement on the expense side? No, sir. You'll see on both of the requests, they are balanced. Right. Supplement requests. You'll see both the revenue and the expense. It's a net zero. So, if you'll approve them as presented, we'll be good. So, do we need a new motion on that, Heather, then? Or are we good? We accepted them as revenues. Do we need a motion to accept them as net zero for a budget supplement? Yes. Okay. Sorry. She's like, "Yes." So... I don't know that we... Because I don't know that we usually do resos for expenses unless it's like an appropriation motion on it. Right. Yeah. It's just accepted supplement request. It shows them both. And it's on both actions. Commissioner's not so good. We can just... We can do a motion to accept these as net zero to the budget. Go move. That's fine. There's no harm in doing it. And that's what's reflected here. There's no harm in it. All right. It's under five minutes. It's a wash. We just got to do it. Yes. You made the vote on the check. No? Okay. Okay. Call a motion. All in favor. Aye. Thank you. I was confused there. Yeah. All right. Thank you, Shari. Fair enough. I couldn't read it. I was going, "Ah, it was a little hurt here." Thanks, Joshua. Thank you. It was just a good look for sharing. Mr. Chairman, we are to you for action items. It was me. That's fine. All right. Yes, thank you. Seven action items this morning, and we'll get right into it. I'll set this one up a little bit. The first one, this is a program update with Valley Meals and More, and Ms. Mary Kenyon is here to make that presentation. We have combined, there were two requests, one under the Human Services Docket, but to save time and achieve efficiencies, we combined them into one knowing that Ms. Kenyon was also going to make a financial ask, which had to be on the action item portion of your agenda. So, we could advance that. So, it's properly agendized. I will say that the ask that accompanies the presentation on her updates this morning is found in the presentation that the board did receive back on June 9th during your work session. And that is for 40 meals, for 41, excuse me, 4,160 meals for July 1st through the end of December, 2026, set an amount of $49,920 for six months. And so, with that in your packet, you have both the HSC updates that Ms. Kenyon provided, as well as the presentation that you provided to the board on the 9th. So, that's setting it up. Thank you. Good morning and welcome. So, the one thing that wasn't in the public pack, well, neither was in the public packet. There was a paperclip, but nothing under it. So, I just want to make sure, did you get my outcomes report? Yes. Okay. So, that… Our goals and outcomes. Yes. Yes. Perfect. Okay. And then, I'm relying on the presentation, the amount of time we spent last Tuesday. Yes. For the answer. That's fresh in all of our minds. Excellent. And so, what would you like to address first? We're going to address the… I think the thing we're here to address is your funding request. Correct? I don't know that we… That's really… Well, it is. That's the action item point, but I want to make sure that she had the opportunity to present what she would normally do within the HSC context, no differently than you heard this morning. So, we just combine these. So, unless there's nothing in addition to the funding request, but that's what we're doing. We went over it all last time. Absolutely. Well, the difference being, and I'm not here to take up more of your time, is that our outcomes report is for the whole program. Our financial ask is for the lowest of the low income. So, the focus is a little different. Why don't we just look at the outcomes report, and I'll try to do it as quickly and efficiently as possible. Okay. So, obviously, we had a lot of desired goals and outcomes, and we do set up our year to improve the program over the course of the year. So, the things that we're very proud of this year, which we discussed a little bit, is our shelf stable distribution and our fresh produce. Each week we are distributing over 630 pounds of food and produce for older adults in eastern Garfield County. So, we're very proud of that. The other thing that was in our goals is that we wanted to be more responsive to the Spanish-speaking older adults in our region. And for that, we actually hired and trained a Spanish interpreter. And we do use Maria on a regular basis almost every week, several times during the week. So, basically, we pass the phone if a volunteer is delivering or there's a question that I have. We pass the phone to the interpreter, and she is able to have good conversations with family members and older adults. So, we have increased our number of Spanish-speaking older adults. So, that's your percentage. Right. It's really low. It always has been really low. So, it's about 5%. I just did a grant over the weekend, so I know it's about 5%. Okay. Thank you. One of the other things that I wanted to make sure, there's a couple things. Our volunteers are so critical to our success. And our volunteers are not included in the Garfield County volunteer appreciation activity. So, we took it upon ourselves to have our own volunteer appreciation. And we actually invited those volunteers at the Garfield County congregate meals as well. And that went really well because it allowed the people that traditionally volunteer in Glenwood Springs to hang out with the people that volunteer up in Carbondale and to meet the people that were volunteering at the congregate site. So, that was money well spent. It was a separate event then. Yes. Or was it done at the congregate meals? No, we actually did it at the Iron Bridge Grill. And we did it in February because we love our volunteers. So, it was really fun. And it was... Did you tell us last time you have 70 volunteers? 70 volunteers. 70 volunteers. But, you know, again, we're using 12 volunteers each delivery day because we have that many delivery routes. So, yeah, 70 sounds like a lot until you're trying to fill those spots. So, but they're great. They're dedicated. Another thing that we did that was funded with a DOLA grant was we gave the long-term volunteers $100 gas card. So, one tank of gas, but rather than a sharp stick in the eye. But so, we're trying to appreciate our volunteers more. We also wanted... We saw the value in multi-general... I'm sorry, multi-generational volunteers. So, we've made an express effort to try to get younger volunteers. A lot of our volunteers are younger, older adults. So, we reached out to some of the schools and we now have parents bringing their children on the deliveries. And it really has increased the amount of time they're spending with the older adults, the great conversations, the great feeling. And then we came... We were on the radar for the Aspen Teen Giving Circle. So, they actually went out and raised money for Valley Meals and more. And the success was incredible. They went out, I think it was a three-month program, and raised $10,000. So, that really is teaching younger adults the importance of our older generation. So, that really felt good. We also had the Glenwood Springs Middle School do a project for Better World Day where they painted rocks. And so, imagine delivering rocks. But they were beautiful and they had sayings on them and they really... They were very moving. So, they really put some thought into it. And the older adults love them. And it's great. Now we walk up to the house and we can look down in their garden and there's the rock with the photo... The artwork on it. And then the other thing I wanted to... You know, other significant outcomes is that we do use the support of the Human Services Commission in all of our grant requests. So, we're demonstrating that the Human Services Commission of the county is supportive of Valley Meals. And so, we use that especially when we're writing grants for Denver-based foundations so that they can see that locally we're supported. So, we're using that as a leverage point. So, that's really a significant outcome as well. So, thank you for your support through the Human Services Commission. That goes over there. Thank you. So, any questions on that? No? Go on. Okay. So, we do have a budget request in front of us and it's for $50,000. I'm going to... I'm going to... And thank you, you know, for your food bank, really. Your food banks that you have, as you call them, shelf-stable distribution. And also your fresh produce. Because those are new programs, I believe, to value deals and more. I think we... When we look at funding through the Human Service Commission, we look at those, you know, things that come first or food probably before shelter, but for shelter, really, the top two. And then we get more to our legal services and our medical and other things that we fund. And there have... There has been more funding for Valley Meals through the Human Service grants. And I think there will probably... That will probably continue to increase each year, I believe. This is not a budget item for us. I... It's not in our budget. So, potentially, it could be a supplement. However, I would say I'll throw this out. I think I would like us to be at $25,000, which is two meals. It's not four meals. It's two meals. And you're going to have to look for the rest from Carbidale and Glenwood. But $25,000, I'm going to... Instead of asking for a budget supplement, I'm going to ask you guys if you want to take this out of our discretionary funds, which would mean that fourth quarter, we wouldn't have any funds left in our $120,000 budget. We have $55,000 right now. So, we'd be able to fund third quarter. We wouldn't have fourth quarter. And I don't know if you'd be comfortable with that or not. But I see that as one way to be able to fund this. So... If I remember, you said you... Maybe I'm wrong. So, correct me if I'm wrong. You were anticipating getting $7,000 from Glenwood and hopefully $5,000 from Carbondale. Is that... Or am I... There has been no ask of the town of Carbondale. We were waiting for this decision. Okay. The position that in side conversations is that technically these 40 meals were budgeted by Garfield County. So this was part of your 2026 budget. It was part of a contract with the AAA that was on both sides of the year. But you budgeted for $14 for 40 meals for the entire year. And then you came in. You didn't come in. The department came in and made a presentation that they want to transfer this meal money to their staff and use it to cover staff. So we went from a significant amount of money being focused on the meals to all that money going into staff. So, you know, we've been running the program for a year now. And there's me and a part-time program manager. So there's the staff that's required. So it's disappointing that the number of full-time staff that is claimed to be required and some of the burdensome things that staff articulated in that transfer of the money from direct service meals to staffing requirements. The other thing that I wanted to bring to your attention is that the county has articulated that you don't have money for a home-delivered meal program. But there has been no plan presented for covering homebound disabled older adults by the senior nutrition department. This is a class that's protected by the American Disabilities Act. If you have a program for senior nutrition, one cannot discriminate against a person who's homebound and disabled. And homebound is, by definition, widely accepted as a disability. So you had a problem in the senior nutrition department that you did not have the capacity for a home-delivered meal program. Valley meals was your solution to that problem to cover those homebound older adults. There's 20 individuals in Glenwood Springs, 20 individuals in Carbondale. All of the individuals that we identified when we talked in the work session were in the Garfield County Housing Authority senior living facilities. And you heard from a manager of that facility how important these meals are to their health and well-being. Now, you asked a very pointed question, Commissioner Jankowski, that I did not answer well at the work session. And your point of clarification was how many of our meal recipients live in unincorporated Garfield County. So of our 243 older adults that were served in 205, 113 have a Carbondale mailing address. I don't know if I was clear with that when I said half are in Carbondale. So 113 have a Carbondale mailing address. 24 of those live in unincorporated Garfield County. 89 live within the town of Carbondale boundaries. Now, with your MOU, you are already, the town of Carbondale is already paying $18,000 toward the congregate meal program. And if you look at the numbers of town of Carbondale residents served in the congregate setting, that money is too much. So you might want to look at that a little closer. I want to finish the unincorporated thought. 130 of our meal recipients have a Glenwood Springs mailing address. A greater amount, 102, live within the Glenwood Springs town limits, city limits. 28 live in unincorporated Garfield County. So 52 of our meal recipients live in unincorporated Garfield County, which is about 20% of our meal recipients. So I apologize that I didn't have that information. But I will. I'm happy that you gave me the opportunity to present it today. Thank you for that information. And I will forward to that. I know you're meeting with Carbondale tomorrow. I've been asked to come to that. And so I ran the congregate meal numbers. You have 74 registered on the roster people that come to Carbondale. And 34 of those attendees live outside the town of Carbondale limits, boundaries. So 40 live within the town of Carbondale. And last Wednesday, we had 19 people for lunch. So as you enter into your new contract and you're going to get 50 meals every Wednesday, we had 19 people last Wednesday. So. How many do you usually have? It's headed toward more toward 30, you know, 28, you know, but in the summer months, again, these are not older adults that need the meals. So on warmer days, they might go over to Village Smithy or, you know, someplace in downtown rather than coming to the meal site, because it's just an alternative meal location for them as opposed to really needing the meals. So it's just a different philosophy. Nothing wrong with it. But, you know, we're hoping that the proofs, you know, the demographic data, the housing data, the poverty data, the risk assessment data, the AAA data, all the data that I presented during the work session, showed you that there is a senior nutrition problem with serving these homebound, living alone, poverty, medical conditioned older adults. And again, Valley Meals is your solution to that. And, you know, and I, I see this, you know, and I, within those senior center living spaces where you do have the shelf stable distribution, fresh produce, those are available to those individuals. The ones that are in unincorporated Garfield County, that's not, they're homebound, that's not necessarily the case. So you are correct there. And I do feel we have, you know, we do have a budget issue here and they stand by the $25,000, but, which is, you know, which we don't have, we don't have the other, other people coming in front of us from, that are receiving dollars from the Human Service Commission. But this is very, these are, you know, you're very correct. These are people that are homebound and this is an important issue today. Mr. Jarman. Yeah, thank you. I wanted to clarify the budget. I think there's some misunderstanding in terms of what was budgeted, what wasn't budgeted. And so what the board has approved in the 2026 budget is the contract that terminates at the end of this month. Correct. And I want to make you sure you understood that because what was presented made it unclear as to say you've budgeted this. And when we think of budgeting, that's for all of 2026. That's not the case. That the contract terminates on June 30th at the end of the month. So that's why, of course, the request is being made now, which is a fresh and new budget request for $50,000, which was not budgeted in 2026. So I just wanted there's some clarity around that. Yeah, we're split by fiscal years. Right. And gentlemen. That was just explained to me differently by the department. They anticipated a continuation of the contract and said that they had budgeted till the end of the year for the home delivered meals because we relied on that in our budgeting. And then that is why I notified the department in October of last year before the budget was approved that we would not be renewing that contract. So it was anticipated and that the number stayed the same. It's just a different contract. But there is no plan for the home delivered meal. I'm sorry, for the homebound older adults in the county's senior nutrition plan. It's the senior nutrition department. It doesn't. It doesn't distinguish between seniors that are homebound and seniors that are able to get in their car and drive. It's a senior nutrition program. And under if you receive federal funding. We're all bound by the Older Americans Act and the American Disability Act, and we are not permitted to discriminate. Against. We can prioritize, but we cannot discriminate against someone who has a disability. Being homebound. If you provide services for one, you have to provide services for the same. And that's why the state is attempting to assist with prioritization based on economic and then the social. And that's where those risk assessments are really helpful. And they're done for all the congregate people as well as all the home delivered people. So it really levels the playing field and how you can prioritize where, who you support with federal funding, especially. I have a different understanding from our team and DHS in terms of any kind of level of commitment for the second six months. So just there's maybe some misunderstanding of where the budget is, what was anticipated or any kind of commitments there. So I want to make sure the board understood that. Okay. So anyway, it's, it's all very good information. Okay. Thank you. And it's complicated. Yes, it is. Yeah. But just for the board's sake, you don't have this budget for 26. That's bottom line. That is correct. Yeah. And we need to get that in the budget cycle. We need to have a good idea. Hopefully more dollars are going to be in the, from the human service commission. Once they go through that, through that cycle, but that's for 20, that's for fiscal year 27. Yes. And that's why we made the concurrent request. We have a decision to make. It's an action item. No, we didn't. Well, how about, I would like to see Glenwood and Carbondale put in more money since a lot of them live in those municipalities, but I'll leave that up to you. That's your chore. But the question is why, in the MOU, why are you distinguishing between the meals? We're just, we're just looking at, we're looking at funding that we're able to come up with. We want to share the, how do I want to put this? We want to share the, we want to share the cost. Sure. So that's what I'm saying. I would like for them to put in a little bit more money is what I'm saying. But under, under your current MOU, you're doing Carbondale tomorrow. So I'll pick on that. They're contributing $18,000. There's a formula for congregate deals only. Home delivered. Right. That's what we need to separate. Carbondale, they say, well, we're not, because neither are required. Of course, they're budgeted as well. Yeah. No, but so the question becomes. That MOU is for the year. They could change their MOU potentially for $27,000. Well, and I think her question is why are we, why are we separating congregate versus home delivered? And that's just the way that we do it. And so there's not, aside from that's the way it's done and that's the way it's budgeted, is there's no answer for that. We have not, we have not had, we have not had home, until Mary came aboard during COVID, we have not had home delivered meals. That's right. In the county. And we do have it in the west end of the county, thanks to Grand Hills on Wheels. And but to your defense, you did not know that you had so many homebound older adults in eastern Garfield County. That's how we started, is that we went out to find those older adults and now we have found them. So you didn't have a program because you didn't know you needed a program. And so now that the word, you know, the word's out, we see it, you saw the data. Now, now the question is, how do we take senior nutrition as an umbrella and address homebound and congregate together? The fact that you get, you outsource one assignment and you keep one within the department, that doesn't matter. It's how do we together as a community address the issue? And I go back to your goal, Commissioner Jankowski, and this is at least three years ago, where you said that no older adult in Garfield County will go hungry. And by virtue of your decision today, there might be 20 people that are going to go hungry. And how do we take care of them, is the question. Well, I think I got a solution. So I would propose this, that we approve the $49,920,000 for six months remaining, starting July 1st, I guess, for 4,160 meals, July through December of 2026. But of that $49,920,000, $25,000 would come from our discretionary funds. And then we would have to make a supplement, making up the remaining amount, which is $49,920. That's my motion. Okay, Perry. Let me understand the motion. We'll approve the $49,920,000 for the rest of this month, because I think it appears as though there's been an understanding that we would honor that and we would do that. So we'll just, we'll do that. We'll just do that. Okay. But we're not going to supplement that totally, because we will be taking $25,000 from our discretionary funds that we have for the whole year. When we do that on a quarterly basis, which would take the last quarter, if I understood what you said there, Mr. Chairman, right? Yeah. Basically. That is correct. We would not have a fourth quarter discretionary funds. So we would not have a fourth quarter discretionary. There will be some people that will be disappointed, because they're used to getting our discretionary funds. Which, if they know now, they're going to have to apply for the third quarter. Correct. And we'll just have to go there and spike the bullet on that one. So that's, that's, that's the, you understand now? I do understand, yeah. I just think that, you know, you've added programs, you've added your self-stable distribution press programs. I salute that. However, it's a, potentially expensive home delivery meal. No, those are all grant funded. Those are third party grant funded. Nothing coming out of the home delivered meals. That's our priority. And we have a grant from the Colorado Trust that funds our medically tailored meals and our produce distribution. And that grant actually goes through, they just granted it again for 2027. So those initiatives are fully funded by the Colorado Trust. I write good grants. Okay. Do you have a second on that, Perry? Sure. So this is just for the six months. It's been nothing for 2027. Nothing for 2027. I mean, this request is going to be... We don't want to... If we don't budge... Let me back up. I don't want to commit anything for 2027. This is just the end this year. And we'll face that hurdle next year. I would ask the board, you do have, as was described for you on Tuesday evening, this is a topic that you do have with the Town of Carbondale. And there is an opportunity perhaps there to see if there is additional funding that the Town of Carbondale is willing to provide. Because they haven't committed. And yeah. So having a robust conversation there may help you in your conversation. And you have a $7,000 commitment already from Glenwood Springs. So a data point that's out there with no commitment from the county for the next six months. But clearly you guys can do that today if you want to hear. So if anything, we can drop this back. If we got $7,000 from Glenwood, we could drop this back to $43,000. However, Carbondale, you know, we'll just have to see how that discussion goes. Yeah. So. So. I'm a motion pending. So I don't know. Correct. Is it? I don't need a second. Yeah. That's why. You don't have a second. So if somebody needs to make a new motion or. I guess I'll just say it out loud. I would like to see Glenwood put more into the kitty. So. Yeah. So. Yeah. These are tough. I mean, we have budget. We have budget issues. Yeah. No different than you. Right. We have budget issues going into next year. Yeah. And then we. And then, you know, our next grant cycle, we're hurting somebody else. You know. Yeah. Can we table this till we hear from Carbondale? There. Yes, you could. Yes, you could. There's no special. There's no meeting. I don't think. The next meeting is July. July. July 6th. Now, you could convene a special meeting. You could also pursue a challenge grant opportunity, which you've done in the past, where you say the board is willing to commit 25,000 funding, and that would provide an opportunity to go out and seek the other path. Right. And so you've done that for various reasons for different grants in the past on much larger grants, frankly, than this. So you do have funding sitting in your discretionary grant. I mean, Mr. Tankowski's idea is a good one in terms of those aren't general fund dollars, and they are not DHS dollars. No, we think so. So $35,000 and see if we can. Well, I see if Carbondale is willing to come in at 7. They probably. I mean, I don't want to go there and be asking Carbondale for $7,000. Well, I think it's a Kelly Mills and Moore request. She's advocating for her program. Maybe it's $35,000 with the challenge grant for the remaining 15. I'll second that. Well, I'm okay, Tom. Discussion? Okay. Call the motion. All in favor? All right. All right. So that would be $25,000 from discretionary grant and $10,000 budget supplement. Okay. And we'll discuss it with Carbondale. We'll let them know what we've done. It is. But this is a data point you can carry to them tomorrow night. Well, the one thing that, and I brought this up in the work session, the one thing that concerns me is that I am looking at both Glenwood Springs and Carbondale's contribution to the senior nutrition program. And if one, just one extra. Just one extra. Okay. So if they, in your formula, Garfield County, if I understand the MOU is supposed to contribute 40% to the senior nutrition program. And then they've asked all the other municipalities to make up the difference. But Garfield County will pay for all unincorporated individuals that the towns are only contributing for people living within their town limits. So what I am going to ask the town of Carbondale is how much of that $18,000 was actually spent on town of Carbondale residents. If only, if 34 of the people coming to the congregate meal are not in the town of Carbondale, is that money, has the money been balanced? And is there extra money in that MOU that then, instead of saying, don't give it to Garfield County at all, give it toward meals? And then it could- MOU is signed for the- No, no. I'm saying through the- Moving forward. Moving forward for 2037. Yeah. Yeah. A discussion. Yeah. Yeah. Because the number's really significant in how much Glenwood Springs has already given to the congregate site. And same thing, that people are coming to the congregate site from other states that we're feeding. So that's- And having worked on the congregate meals for a year, I know the numbers. I see the numbers. I see the- So that- This is the first time I've known that there's surplus. So it ends up that the town of Carbondale is paying for meals in Rifle. And that's not the intent. No. I don't think that's- Sheila may have a data point. Yeah. Sheila, you want- Yes. You may speak with my very limited knowledge of the methodology. But my understanding is that the municipalities pay for the meals served in their town. Right. That's right. So there are people who travel all across Garfield County and go to different meal sites. But the methodology is what is served in their town. So Carbondale pays for the meals. Or they supplement the meals served in Carbondale. So it's served in Carbondale, regardless of where the person lives, Rifle pays for the meals in Rifle, regardless of where people live. People travel all across. We have volunteers that move across meal sites. So that- It's not based on the address of the individual at the meal site. It's based on the number of meals served at the meal site. The funding is from AAA, is for congregate meals. Yes, it is specifically. So we- You know, but I don't know if that's 100% of the funding. There is funding that comes down to our general fund as well. Yeah, that's not fair. Right. So, I mean, right now, Heather, we're looking, potentially, at a meeting with a traveler. Yeah. And so maybe all this senior meal stuff needs to kind of come out. Well, it's the same parties, essentially, for congregate meals. And- You know, and how it's- Mm-hmm. Right? That's true. That's right. That's maybe a reason to separate them. Yeah, that's- That's- That's- Okay. So, the language of the MOU says, "The municipalities each agree to pay a proportionate share of the funding balance, less all anticipated grant and program funding income based upon the percentage of total meals served to the residents of each municipality." So, it doesn't say guests, and it doesn't say unincorporated. It's the residents. It just doesn't have a specific spot for Garfield County. So, it's not broken out that way. Garfield County just pays a specific percentage. Right. Right. And so, the BOCC- But it's not based on the individuals who live in Garfield County. Right. So, just for clarity. And it says, "The BOCC agrees to be responsible for all the meals served to residents of unaffiliated Garfield County and Battlemont Mesa, as well as any shortfall in grant and program funding." Mm-hmm. I just, if we bring that up tomorrow in front of the Carbondale trustees, I don't- I mean, the thing is, we've got an hour- Leave here. We have an hour with the Carbondale trustees. So, I think the thing is, is that, you know, potentially the MOU needs to be revisited. Yeah. And we agree- There's a separate meeting to talk about. Yeah. We want to have a separate- This is one of, I think, seven topics in an hour. That's right, yeah. So, that becomes a question, because the manager of the senior facility there wants to come over, and we could take the whole hour. Well, if they, if Carbondale gives you the whole hour, you have the whole hour. So, what I would request, can we ask that senior meals be taken off your list of things to discuss, and tell the Carbondale we'll set up a separate meeting? We need to let Carbondale know, you know, what we have, your request, and what we have funded. And just, just for their knowledge. Yeah. Yeah. So, now I can email them. I'll email them this afternoon, and let them know the numbers. But the bigger picture is, there's six other municipalities, too. So, it's a bigger picture here. Yeah. Right. It's, that's it. Yeah. But, okay. We're good. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. So, Jamaica, yes. Let's go forward. You're still on the, she has a clarification. Okay. Yes. Oh. So, I just, what I heard you say is a $35,000 funding to go to Valley Mills and more. Split $25,000 and $10,000, right? Okay. That's why I need some more direction. So, the $25,000 you want to come out of your discretionary funds. Where are you proposing the other $10,000? We're going to be a budget, so we need a budget supplement from the general fund. To your discretionary grant line item? That would be good. Then we could take all $35,000 out of your discretionary. That would be my recommendation if that works for you. Yeah. That would be great. That's correct. Just pull it off from the discretionary. And we'll supplement $10,000 into there. Discretionary. Okay. Because there are two different contract types when you start splitting out what comes out of human services, what comes out of discretionary, so. Yeah, let's make it as. Is that all right? Yes, that's fine. Let's make it as least complicated for you as we can. Great. Thank you. Thanks, Mary. Okay. We've got a calendar. We've got Lori sitting here for our calendar. Yeah. You have the floor. We should be back to you, Mr. Garner. Yeah, thank you. This, I think, should be relatively quick. Thank you, Lori Goodwin. Your human resources director is here to present the proposed 2027 holiday calendar. It's in your packet. Yes, hopefully I won't take too much of your time. And just to give you just a little bit of history, in 2023 and the years prior, Garfield County observed 10 paid holidays as holidays. Garfield County observed 10 paid holidays as holidays. In 2024 and 2025, Garfield County observed 11 paid days as holidays. For 2026, the current year that we're in, Garfield County is observing 12 paid days as holidays. Martin Luther King Day, Monday, January the 18th was added as the 12th holiday. For 2027, we are presenting two options for consideration. Option A has 11 holidays. The 4th of July is, just wanting to point this out, the 4th of July is on Sunday. Therefore, we're putting the holiday as a Monday as the paid day off. Christmas Day is on Saturday. So, Friday, December the 24th and Monday, December the 27th are the paid days off. Option B proposes 12 holidays. They're the exact same holidays that I have outlined in option A. However, just proposing the 12th holiday as Tuesday, December the 28th. And so, I'm here to request you select one of these options and/or provide me some additional guidance on how you would like to approach these holidays for 2027. Commissioner Sampson, your thoughts? Well, I think it was me several years ago when we had Christmas that fell on a day. And we had people coming and working, or we would have had people coming and working like a Monday and then getting a Tuesday and Wednesday off. And then have to come back and work Thursday, Friday. You see what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. The two days. And I said, to me that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. So, that's why I proposed at that time, we give them that Monday also. So, you don't have a weekend, come work Monday, get Tuesday, Wednesday off, then come for Christmas. So, the rationale why I did that was that we didn't have to do that. But it was because of when Christmas failed. This 27 calendar, Christmas falls on the Saturday. So, I would say, you know, giving them the 24th, they get the 25th, the 26th, and giving them the 27th. I don't know that we need to have to give them the 28th. Well, do we want to get into a... That's it. Yeah. What I'm saying is we've always... We went from 10 to 11 to 12 days off. Correct. See, I'm saying if Christmas was on a... Well, I just explained it. And they had to come back after the weekend, work a Monday, and then get two days of 24th and 25th, Tuesday and Wednesday off. I would say that's why I said give them another day for Christmas. Because of the calendar of when Christmas is... It's falling right now. I'm just... It looks like we're going to have, you know, we'll have the 41st. So, we do have three days off at New Year's. We'll have the 31st, 1st, and 2nd. No, we don't have the 31st off. We don't have New Year's Eve off. Yeah. That would be the one that we'd add. That would be the one we'd add. But then we got... Then you're here. You're off the 27th, you work 28th, 29th, 30th, and you have the... So, it's a real short week. Yeah. Well, your option A, Commissioner Sampson, that is what you were just talking about. Yeah, correct. What she just presented shows that Christmas Day, of course, is on the Saturday, so the Friday previous, then the Monday would be paydays off, which I think speaks to what you were just saying. Mm-hmm. So, just the 27th. So, I would say... As an option. Option A. I get a lot of the year of option A. I agree with option A, too. I just wonder, instead of the 27th off, you got the 24th, 25th, 36th, we go to Friday the 31st, 31st, 1st, 2nd. So, because we're not looking at 2028, but I'm just wondering if that... We have New Year's Eve, basically. New Year's Eve. New Year's Eve. Yep. New Year's Eve. You can do that. As opposed to the 27th, Monday. I would agree with that. Oh, I got... Are you following that? I got worse... No, not on that option. It would be a new option. Right. I see. I agree. Yeah. I agree. So, we don't have four days over Christmas. We have three days of Christmas. Yep. And then you wouldn't be on the 27th. We'd have... We'd take... Move that to the 31st, which is New Year's Eve. We'd have the 31st, first and second next weekend. So, you'd have two three-day weekends in the room. Yep. Okay. I like that. That was fun. We'd have to have four. You'd have a three-day weekend for Christmas and a four-day weekend for Christmas for Christmas. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is that right? Is that right? Really? Am I misunderstanding that? Because I'm looking at the... I'm looking at the... You got it. Get it. Yeah. Got it. Got it. Got it. Okay. I'm with you all now. So, to restate that, Tom, describe your option one more time. Option is to... Option A, changing... I'm going to go to the next weekend. I'm going to go to the next weekend. And then you're going to go to the next weekend. Okay. I'm going to go to the next weekend. And then you're going to go to the next weekend. And then you're going to go to the next weekend. So, you're going to go to the next weekend. Okay. Describe your option one more time. Option is to... Option A, changing... Changing Monday the 27th. Cross that out. And make that Friday the 31st. New Year's Eve. And then pull off the 28th as well. Then we do what you want that. Pull off the 27th. With the rationale being, which I agree, is because you want that New Year's Eve day. Right. And it happens to fall on a Friday. It kind of depends when the holidays fall. Right. Because they're all falling on Saturday. Exactly. So moved. Does that... Got that? Okay. Okay. Just, if you don't mind, if I could repeat it, be sure I have it written down correctly. So, it... Excuse me. It's option A. With removal of Monday, December the 27th. And adding Friday, December 31st. That's the... Okay. Yep. I like that. Okay. Don't move. Thank you. All in your favor? All right. Okay. Got it, Lori. Thank you. Thank you, Lori. Okay. Okay. It's 12:07. Would you... You guys... You want to get... Let's run through the... The airport. Yeah. I'll be quick. Okay. Thank you. Next on your agenda this morning, this is a request approval of the professional services agreement with Lochner for construction, administration, observation, testing, and management of the main main airport... Excuse me. Main apron reconstruction west project, also known as schedule one, as Mr. Carver told me. And... She's played an important role in all this. Thank you, Commissioner. Yes. We're getting ready to start our busy summer project season. This first one is to release a contract to Lochner to handle the construction management of the apron project. I'll just give you a little background. We did go out for a bid for this project that came in way over estimate. Yeah. This one. Oh, as far as the construction... The construction, yes. Not necessarily that... Not for Lochner. No. Not for the engineering. But it did reduce their costs some, from what we originally estimated, because we were going for three schedules, and it turns out we only had enough money to do one schedule. So that and also we had Lochner go back and reduce their fees to cover just the one schedule. So that's how we got to where we are. So that comes to... What was it? 292,000, I believe. 292,000, 892,000. Yes. Correct. And that's very... It's really reasonable. That is really low. Not 10%. No. Usually you figure 10%. I was really surprised how low it was. I think if we had gone with all three of those schedules, it was more in line with that. But when they started reducing the other two schedules, somehow it came up with a surprisingly low amount. So if you look at the next one, you'll see what you're talking about. Yeah. So that is our recommendation to release the contract. These funds are coming out of the airport. Correct. Yes. Kim, anything you want to add? Not on that one. Not on that one. Watch out. Okay, gentlemen, some action items. Mr. Chair, I move that we approve the professional services agreement with Lochner Construction Services associated with the main apron reconstruction west project. Out of chair to sign. In the amount of... Total. 292,892 dollars. Second. Okay, I know that's coming from the airport reserves. Call the motion all in favor? All right. Okay, got that one. Okay. And... Okay, so the next one is for the grant, the state portion for the apron project. So we had originally estimated a $7 million project to be all three schedules. We're down. Don't we want to do Wolfert first? Oh, is that right? Oh, I'm sorry. It's out of order on mine, so... Yeah. Okay, so... Let's make sure I'm reading the right one. Same thing with Wolfert construction administration management for Taxiway B, connector Taxiway B for projects. Sorry, how do I have my... How do I have my order? Um, yeah, so this is for Wolfert, which this project is for Taxiway B, which is 100% local funding. Um, this one pleasantly came in under SNAP, which is nice. So we are able to do both scheduled phases of this project. And their, um, their construction amount is... 503,418. Yes. And I will let you know, they originally came in with about $640,000. So I actually met with them and got the trim a lot of the pad to get it down to that 503. More in line with that 10%. Yeah, more in line with 10%. Yeah, more in line with 10%. But that's, uh... Um, and, uh... Yeah, so that was our recommendation to release contract to Wolpert. Okay. Bye, Beck. Mr. Chairman, we approve professional services agreement with Wolpert for construction administration management services Taxiway B and connector Taxiway B3 project. If I got it straight here for $503,418. Is that correct? Yes. Why were they... Why are they higher than 10%? Do you have any idea? Is it just more work on their part? They put a lot into the, uh, the on-site construction management and had, you know, some higher level and just... I thought the, uh... You know, they had them on-site six days, 12 hours a day. And I told them that's... That wasn't necessary. Okay. Any more discussion? Call a question. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Okay. We're moving along here. All right. So the next one, uh, is for the, the grant from, um, CDOT for the apron project. And, uh, yeah, thank you. Again, this is for the, uh, it's, it's in the amount, their, their portion, uh, in the grant is listed at $175,000. And that's what we applied for. And that's the way they, they're, they want to keep the grant for $175,000, even though we've reduced the, uh, the, the total amount of the project based on the, on the bids. Um, they originally had estimated a total $7 million project, but now that we're down to a $4.3 million project, that will actually reduce our costs and the state's costs from $175,000 to $108,000. So our portion will be $108,000 for this, uh, for this $4.3 million project. Same with the state, but, uh, but they don't go back and change the, you know, the original application. So it still says $175,000 and that will allow some, uh, you know, possibly some available funds for any type of change orders. I think. Does that make sense? They don't have a problem with it. No. Not even though it's $108,000, which gives us a leeway to do some other thing. Correct. Hallelujah. Yeah. And it's called, and our portion goes down also. That's good. Okay. Mr. Chairman, I would move that we accept the, let's see. Where am I at? Which one is this now? Are we on number five? Yeah. And I, I didn't. Division of Aeronautics, uh, grant. Mr. Chairman, I move that we accept funding from CDOT for a grant of $175,000 for apron construction project at Rifle-Garfield County Airport. Yeah. 175, 189. 189. 189. Thank you. Okay. All the motion. All in favor. Aye. Okay. All right. project at rifle garfield county airport yeah 175 189. 189. thank you okay i'm calling the motion all in favor all right okay all right now let's get this time okay so um but there was there was also faa funding for that yeah that's the majority of it yeah yeah they're doing 95 percent of that project and we accepted that do we need to have we accepted that yes we have already done that okay great okay okay go ahead this is uh numbers um um number six award to gould construction thank you um so yes this is the recommendation and approval to award that contract to gould construction inc and that's to complete schedule one of the main apron project um we posted and advertised this and we've received two bids and gould construction was the lowest responsible bidder um so we're asking you to discuss and either approve or disapprove the award of that contract to gould construction inc in an amount not to exceed four million forty thousand nine hundred twenty dollars and fifty cents and then authorize signature of the contract if approved and this gives us it gets us to where we need to be that's the not completely where we need to be but at least consistent in a good position on the yes on the taxi is it the taxiway or is this is the apron for a portion yeah correct this is the all right i'll call the motion all in favor all right all right then next one is taxiway now we're on the taxiway um so similar uh to the other one we uh put this out to bid and so we are recommending um an award of the contract to phoenix industries ltd to complete the taxiway b b3 and then the aircraft run-up pad um at the rifle garfield county airport and we received two bids on this as well and phoenix industries was found to be the lowest responsive bidder and they are also a local vendor you'll notice that in your in your bid tab um so we're asking you to discuss and either approve or disapprove the award of the contract to phoenix industries ltd in an amount not to exceed five million seventy six thousand one hundred sixty seven dollars and 42 cents and authorized signature of the contract if approved okay so sam this is the one that gets helps us with the choke choke point yes and then i was pretty um happily surprised that we were able to do both phases of it because it won't just create a taxiway to go around it's going to create a new uh what we call run-up area too so that gives us even a more additional payment for the movement of traffic through there so okay so is the apron the one that we we were able to fully fund right the apron was the uh one we didn't have enough to do all three phases but but the one yes fortunately the one we're paying for came in on it okay great so this is from reserves airport reserves and then um also with the with the assistance from the the county funds too that we'll pay back yeah yeah yeah commissioners this is the one where the uh general fund is going to do an interfund transfer to the airport in which they're hoping to be able to pay the general fund back to 2030 um because this came in lower it is only 1.8 so that that transfer is going to be and you'll see it in your next uh we will then um we will then budget accordingly for the next three years or so okay great all right we'll move that we approve recommendation of the staff the board contract to phoenix industries limited in an amount not to exceed 5 million 76 167.42 to complete action way b b3 and the aircraft run up pad at the rifle county airport sure to sign second yeah follow motion on favor all right thank you thank you thank you both these projects should be done before november great good that's good great thank you sam thank you uh commissioners that concludes your action app this morning i'd like for us to go into recess until one o'clock what gives us uh 40 40 minutes for lunch and we go longer than we thought however uh we're pretty close to schedule we walked in right in on time so we are going to reconvene our board of county commissioners meeting for june 15th and we have in front of us uh county attorney update public meeting consideration of a resolution prohibiting the sale use or possession of fireworks and incorporated garfield county from june 15th to july 5th 2026 this barnhold is here graham jackson you guys had the floor uh good afternoon commissioners as you'll recall we passed uh early this year an ordinance that prohibits the sale of fireworks throughout the year except for a period from the end of may through i think july 6th if there is competent evidence of high fire danger you can pass by resolution extending that ban through this period before the fourth of july um so after consulting with the county emergency manager about the fire risks um we believe it's necessary to pass that resolution um i've prepared a draft resolution for you um and also included in your packet should be the data packet um from ucr about fire risk and fire restrictions um and i'll let chris speak to uh specifics of the fire risks yes so last week we had um quite a bit of wildfire starts we had six in like five days we ended up burning a apartment apartment building down in rifle due to a wildfire we've had interstate closures we've had um about burn down a subdivision down by west parachute as well or i guess it was just a one house development but all their outbuildings their house the secondary house all of that so just kind of watching that looking at the fire behavior that we've had and the way the fire's moved on these different fires that we've had and how quickly it's moved and kind of the threat that it's put on stuff out of the last eight days we've had seven days of red flag warning two more days to come and some fire weather watches mixed in there as well for the next week or so the weather doesn't look like it's getting any better um single digit percent chances of rain for the until the end of the month it's going to be windy lows in the 90s to high upper upper 90s until clear until the end of the month i just don't see any any relief in sight with the weather yet they're still saying monsoons about the middle of july but that doesn't do us any good for july 4th and that kind of that weekend we're in extreme drought half the county this half of the county is all exceptional drought which is the highest we've seen in a long time um and then after talking with with graham and looking at we went into fire restrictions last week we're going to stay in fire restrictions we're in stage one restrictions right now we're going to stay in that at least through the fourth i would say i don't see anything in there that's going to change that and even if it rained a little bit it's not enough to do anything we need a week or two of rain to even catch up back to where we were so i feel like at this point it's just better safe than sorry and go ahead and do this resolution and try to eliminate the human aspect of starting a wildfire somewhere a little bit at a time as we can as the same as we did with going into stage one fire restrictions thank you fine miss four degrees with you for that we um you know we have this fireworks uh privilege use of fireworks do we do anything this year on the sale of fireworks that's what the ordinance did the ordinance did that there's already in colorado criminal law there's there's restrictions on certain fireworks to begin with even without your ordinance right your ordinance bans the sale of even the allowed fireworks under colorado state law so we don't we won't have sales under your ordinance and this uh resolution would prohibit any any sale of even the allowed fireworks under state law would be a violation of your ordinance now with this resolution prior to the fourth all right thank you questions yeah about the fire commission meeting the other day they're embarrassing you're talking about the the high country's even an extreme fire the high country this is this is much needed mr sampson i just yeah pray for rain about all i can say pray for rain no i'm all for it okay this is we need to go ahead and to approve this resolution mr chairman i move that we pass the resolution prohibiting the sale use or possession of fireworks and unincorporated garfield county from june 15th to july 5th 2026 allowed the chair to sign very good and this means that we will have then we will be year round on a fire ban when we do this correct your so your ordinance the the way the state law works you can pass an ordinance but it automatically accepts out that period from may 31st to july 6th because that's when people would want to buy and sell fire out anyways so it requires competent evidence to pass a resolution to extend over that gap period so this resolution effectively bridges your your existing 2026 fireworks ordinance over this period before july 4th okay so if a municipality or some somebody like that wanted to have a fireworks display say in it on new year's new year's eve it doesn't prohibit them i don't believe it it prohibits commercial displays it's consumer fireworks they would have to go through the fire department for a permit yeah and the city has that ability to do that on their own even with this this resolution in place this is an unincorporated guard book and yeah just unincorporated yep and they they all work with us and talk to us about that when they're going to do something so okay any other questions gentlemen no ask for ask for approval of this uh motion all in favor all right all right yeah you got it thank you all right thank you thank you okay next thing in front of us this is for you john's consideration the sunlight parkway pud final flat for development of uh six two family residents and then this is final plat this has been in front of us before so we're fairly familiar with it you have the you have the floor well first of all you know we uh we have i need to go to the uh we have nine different uh items in front of us for the public meeting so right and uh i don't know that we need to go through there will there be any more no new exhibits that nine exhibits okay you have the floor as you just stated uh this should be pretty familiar with with this sunlight parkway pud was approved by resolution number 2023 in or 2023 22 sorry in 2023 the pud established the zoning for the property and as you said earlier it's six duplexes for a total of 12 lots preliminary plan was approved by the bocc resolution number 2025 49 and this is the final step in that process for subdivision in pv which is the final plat we've been working with the apps ken to getting the eyes dotted and the t's crossed and we feel we're at that final step so within your packet there staff recommends that the board make a motion to approve the sunlight parkway pud final plat with the five findings and one condition considering minor edits to the plat and authorize the chairman to sign the final plat subdivision improvement agreement and related documents questions for john no to the applicant neil jason me and bluebird attorney for the applicant we don't have anything currently maybe lovely jason good okay any questions any other questions on this need a motion yeah i'll give 10 minutes mr chairman i move that we approve the sunlight parkway pud pud final flat for the development of six two family residence duplexes for a total of 12 residences and property is owned by sunlight located on parcel number 2185-343-00-028 with the how many finding five five findings in condition of approval and allow the chair to sign thank you and i'll just note that it's the sunlight parkway pud any other questions comments some call motion all in favor all right i got you guys out of here thank you you nine minutes i will look back appreciate it good okay now we are to public hearings and uh have heather here for this one this is a public hearing consideration of a basic correction exemption requesting approval of the current 7.208 acre conflict configuration that of that property located at 329 corey ell ridge road which is south of blue and springs applicant robert and lori austin miller we're just very dear years to support this so this is a public hearing so i'll ask you to raise anybody that's going to testify ask you to raise your right hand promise to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so happy god thank you and with that i will go to notice to this cave yep and is notice appropriate it is certainly mailed 15 days prior and according to the code okay so do we accept notice of the board yes you know here not heads nodded so with that we have heather we have 12 exhibits are there going to be any additional exhibits no there isn't well it's a bit sorry thank you with that you have the floor heather this looks like this goes back a long way back into the 70s stone down correct in something for the 70s potentially true yeah okay it could have been before i was born so okay we'll just wait until we get get our presentation up and going working so well for me right now okay you just want to work off your packet if you're not going to bring that up and has decided to like crash on me i could do the flash or when i have a coffee phone you're just too fast tom yeah we got a lot to get to you you Thank you. Thank you. Okay, 20 seconds is good. Which one are we doing first, Heather? Okay, we got it. You have the floor. Okay. We're here for the Austin Miller Basic Correction Exemption, public hearing. And the application is Robert and Lori Austin Miller, represented by Derek Walter from Boundaries Unlimited. Their location is at 329 Corral Road in Linwood Springs. The parcel is about 7.21 acres and it's considered in the rural zone district. And we recommend approval with conditions. And the basic correction exemption is for, to, I guess, correct any kind of parcel that was done after the 1972 subdivision regulations. And I'll go into more detail when we get to the history. I need to sit up there and... Can you give me another click? Okay. Okay. Can you hear that then? Where it's located between... Halfway between Glenwood and Carbondale. And it's accessed by County Road 154 through the new Cavern Springs name for that mobile home park. And directly north of the Austin Miller's parcel is another parcel, and that's how it also has an easement for it. And in the history of this parcel, in 1975, it was started. There's the original description. It's similar to this area, but it was actually a 19.96-acre parcel that included several different parcels adjacent to this one, including a parcel that's on the other side of the Roaringford River. It was recorded as Reception 266835. And in 1977, another quick-tame deed was done where a lot of the parcels got sold off, and it was down to about 5.21. In 2000, there was a BLA, and that added two acres. And you can see the BLA diagram. The BCE has 16 criteria, and we didn't find any problems or any issues with the criteria. And here is the exemption plant. And then we suggested approval for five findings and three conditions of approval. Okay, so we're just cleaning this, cleaning up the quick-claim deeds. Okay. All right, the applicant. Any more questions for Heather? You're okay, the applicant. You have the floor. Do you have anything to add or...? Well, not really, I think. You did a lot of work. Thanks to Derek, and, you know, I punched the holes. All right. No, not really. Not much else to add to this. It's been... No, I do need... Please introduce yourself. Oh, I'm sorry. Robert Oster-Miller, and I'm here with my wife, Lori. Okay, sorry. That's all right. I mentioned that earlier. Lori's mother owned this at one time, and then her brother, and now it's been sold to us, but it has always had that same configuration. You can see the lot line reconfiguration for two acres being shifted between owners at one point there, but I traced back through the quick-claim deeds back into the early 70s and didn't find parcel itself getting further subdivided. So I knew that the county had a requirement beginning 1975 that you had to have your subdivision approved, and I believe that this is occurring before that. Much of the history of the Coriel Ranch was before that. Best I could find is that the Coriels had a great acreage through this area and sold off pieces of it, including that which is now the mobile home park, and gave pieces of it to their children, effectively is how it worked, back before 75. And we have a whole subdivision there called Coriel Subdivision on the south side of Aspen Glen. It was a big ranch at one time. Okay. Any questions for the applicant? Any other comments? Any questions from the public? I don't think, I don't see that. Some concerns? No. Okay. Well, I'd just like to give some thanks to Heather and to Glen for shepherding us through this. Okay, great. Yeah, clean it up. Let's go ahead. Ask for a motion to close the public hearing. So move to the client. I'll call the question all in favor. Aye. Okay, it's decision time, gentlemen. Here, I'd move that we approve a basic correction exemption on 7.28 acre configuration of the property located at 329 Coriel Ridge Road, South of Guma Springs with applicants Robert and Lori Austin Miller. And with the... let's see here. Five recommendations, findings of approval and the three conditions of approval. Seconder motion. And with that, you're cleaning up something that's 50 years old plus. Okay. There we go. I will call the motion all in favor. Aye. Aye. Okay, you got it. Thank you. Thank you. You want this back? One of them. Just for my license. Okay. All right. We're moving along. You sure you don't want them all? You can take them all. Okay. They'll also get recycled by us. Okay. That one I get to see. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yep. This next one. Okay. This next public hearing is consideration of administrative review of a land use change permit for a community meeting facility within the rural zone district. The directors referred the application to the Board of County Commissioners. The property is located on County Road 311, south of Silt, applicants are Tito and Area Louise, and our staff person is Heather McDonnell. So with that, those of you that are going to testify, come up to the front and I'm going to ask people that are going to follow that you get settled first. And should I bring my... I don't know. Before we get... Started on this, I need to note that my wife has a letter of support for this in here. And my wife has a property management company that has about 22 different properties. And she often... And Tito's on her referral list. She doesn't have any financial dealings with him. He bills directly to those applicants. I don't have any financial dealings with them, but I wanted to just get that on the floor. This is similar to the letter... Her letter would be similar to the letter from Joy White that's also in here. So just a disclosure on my part. Thank you. With that, okay. Everybody... This is a public hearing, so everybody that's going to testify needs to raise the right hand and promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God. Thank you. Okay, thank you. And with that, let's go to notification. Call up your staff to do the notification for this, and Heather was going to describe what she did, and then you guys will make a decision if that is sufficient. Okay, honey. And they decided that when we were trying to figure out zip codes and the address were not matching up, that it was either changed zip code or we can go to a different town and those return receipts might not actually make it. So we went with changing the zip code due to the advice from the postal clerk, and some of them did come back to me. So the correct zip codes did go out, and the person that lives there did sign it and return some of the receipts back to me. But otherwise, it looked like there were some typos and a couple things that was from an old middle research done by a title company. Okay. Thank you. So they didn't keep what was written in the assessor record. So Heather's saying that she modified those, and if you feel like that was reasonable and that she made a constructive notice effort, then you guys would make that decision and say it's sufficient. If the constructive notice effort was made, are you okay with the notice? Well, I would say it's okay because you said, and I think the record needs to reflect, that the postal employee said, this is the best way to correct this and take care of this. Yeah. Yeah. So that good faith effort was done to do what they needed to do legally, I think. So, yeah. One of the managers was helping me out over there. Okay. So we're going to accept notice. Managers at the post office here around the corner. I think her name was Larissa. She's the one who's helping me with a lot of these notices. Okay. Good with notice. With that, you have 41 exhibits. Are there, is your presentation part of that? Yeah. Part of it with the staff report. No, is that number five? Okay. They're going to be, are you going to have a presentation? Yes, we are. You're going to have a presentation. Yes. So that will be number 42. It's actually 40. I already, Oh, you're already down there. Okay. The applicant's presentation is 40. So CPW then is 41. Okay. Excellent. All right. So the way this, the way this is going to work is that Heather will give her presentation and then, then we, and we'll ask her questions and then we will then give you a chance to give your presentation and then the public gets to comment. And then you get to respond back to the public comments. Then we will close the public hearing and we will then make a decision. Things work. Okay. With that, Heather, you have the floor. And we're here for the Ruiz community meeting facility. It was an administrative review. I didn't, I didn't read that off. Like I should have. So go up there. Please go ahead and read that off. We are for the hearing for the Ruiz community meeting facility, which is originally a administrative review that was called up by the director. Okay. Thank you. Hito and Maria, Maria, Marie's located at 833 County Road, 311 in Silt. It's part of a minor subdivision of lot two. 2.275 acres located in the rural zone district. And as part of this, we are doing denial based on the land use development code standards. But we also have an alternative motion if you guys would like to proceed with approval of conditions. located two miles south of the town of Silt. It is surrounded by residential rural agriculture and minor and major subdivisions. The property is leveled and pretty, I guess, very shallow slopes toward the south or north. Okay. building is a community meeting facility for a variety of events. They are doing a weekend reservation system and they are planning to use their current well for water and as submitted in the application porta potties for restrooms. There's also an assortment of shed and shack type of structures around the agricultural building that will support the venue. And we also have a close-up picture of the site plan that shows and a location of the current contractor jar that was on here. We had several referral agencies respond back to me and a lot of them had a little different issues. A lot of them was water, wastewater issues, access, fire district protection, emergency, are we, and also roadway standards to make sure that fire apparatus can actually make it to the building if something happens. Issues is compatibility with the neighborhood. Utilities are not really listed on the site plan as well. Comprehensive plans between the silt one and ours. More about water and wastewater, drainage erosion, and the lighting. The plan shows that it's in the medium residential high. Residential medium high. And it's surrounded by no commercial buildings. And even with spring-borne across the road, it was originally as a commercial agricultural processing place, and it's totally different than having that center. So, current zoning is commercial ag? It's all rural. And then, for the comprehensive plan, it's considered residential medium high. Thank you. Heather, do you have the address right on this? 311 road? I think it's 331. I noticed it said 331. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, it's a typo. Yeah, it is 331. 331, okay. 331. We'll change that up. Yeah, on the agenda. Is that anywhere else in here? Okay, I think you can go ahead and continue. We're going to go over a few things that we have found in the land use code. The main one was the agricultural structure. It was permitted as an ag building in 2023, and it was CO'd by at that time. Between that and by the time it got to pre-app summary, it had been improved with different things like electricity and having it enclosed, which I don't think in the original building permit was not supposed to be like that. I think it was supposed to be just an open air. The bottom was supposed to be like open aired. And then we also found that there was no permits to be found on any other improvements. There was no sound mitigation when they started hosting events. in there. And right now, as of today, the current building occupancy is not rated for the human occupancy. It's rated for low-risk animal storage as of now. accessories. Here are the structures that are surrounding the event center area. Includes this open air food area that has electricity that's attached to it and been wired. There was no permits on that one. There's also this dressing room building that had, I don't know, eight by ten. And in there is just a window and a door. And then there's no mitigation for the gray water that's coming from these barrel sinks that were placed right outside of this restroom, dressing room area. And then they have a few porta-potties on the side of that structure. And between the public health and other land use codes, you feel like that the structure needs to have an OWTS system and it needs to be up to commercial building code. Another observation while we were there was this 40 by 100 foot tent that was currently being used as partial storage and partially for any events. We found out during the site visit that the rating for this tent is not rated for this area and due to building code requirements, you either need to get a stronger new tent or remove it. And the applicant can probably provide more information about that in their presentation. in the access road, it comes down this long driveway and according to their site plan, they plan to have parking along the northern side of the road and what we observed and asked at the site visit is that the fence will be moved up farther so that they can grade and do actual parking spaces. I think it was perpendicular parking spaces over there. And during the review process, we also found out that engineers have decided that they wanted to have a grading and drainage plan just to check the erosion when they start doing any other improvements. Another issue is lighting. All the lights, poles that are on there with the solar is 18 feet high and it does create very bright light at night. and our residential subdivision regulations say that all light needs to be downcast and it feels like it's just excessive height that they have and we need them to come back with a redesign of something maybe lower or something a little bit more compatible to the residents. We have access to one way and one way out. Their site plan has no circulation or an emergency plans. So one of the things that our fire district marshal has mentioned is they want to see knockboxes. They want to see fire extinguishers. They want to, it's everything's life safety issues. So they want to see ADA accessible spaces. And they want to see, I'm able to have a good turnaround, whether it's either a circular one or a hammerhead, something that fire apparatus can actually come in and get to the property and able to get out. Also on the safe vids, we noticed that there was half acre contractor's yard that is just west of this tent. The applicant has this handyman service, as have you mentioned earlier. in this area, there was broken down vehicles, trailers, I guess shipping containers filled with other materials and other objects in there, very heavy duty shelving, and a variety of other building materials. And then an applicant can tell you some more about that. And here is the site plan. As you can see, it only takes about a half of the entire property. And the northern half of the property is all agriculture. And due to all of the different land use issues that we have, we suggested a recommended of denial. And these are the findings. And that includes zone district, compatibility with the comprehensive plan, compatibility with the neighborhoods, water issue. Currently, they only have residential well. They're using from west divide has an augmentation plan that they're going to work with. Central water and wastewater, they are using porta potties, and this is going to be the future of commercial building. They need to have commercial building codes, which includes an actual restroom. Access and fire protection, off-street parking is not there yet. They still have to work on that. And lighting standards. Just wanted to highlight that condition five. Heather's done a good job walking through that. But those are the compilation of article seven standards that pretty much limited our options when those standards aren't demonstrated as being met in the submittal requirements. So that's the key in finding five. Okay. Questions for Heather? Okay. You guys have the floor. Mr. Chairman? Yes, go ahead. Heather's going to walk through the alternative options as well. And that will help inform further what some of the key issues are. Right. So if there's a long list of conditions of approval if we're to move forward. Yes. So I don't know if you want to go into detail. I'm just going to go highlight that there's 16 conditions if you want to pursue the approval and they all have to do with wastewater. Every single one has to do with different standards. There's a lot of things that will have to be done including changing the well to a commercial well. making sure they have updated to commercial building codes and John Plano will be able to help them out once and they did hire an architect. So they've started that but they haven't done everything else yet. They'll have to get an engineer at that point to do some of the drawings. They'll have to update their site plan and update any kind of emergency plan that the fire district has asked. Which includes a lot of things like knock boxes and emergency plans. And toward the end we'll talk about an option of maximum event size of how many people we want to do and another motion of if you want to limit the events per year. So that's what we have with Gianetti. Yes. Then I have two sample motions if you decide which way you want to go. Thank you. There's no questions? No. Okay. Tito and Maria. Maria. You have the floor. Okay. Good afternoon everyone. Thank you for the opportunity to speak with you today. My name is Raquel Mandisable and I am here on behalf of Tito and Mireya Breeze. Regarding their application for Patch of Heaven, a proposed community meeting facility located south of Silt. Although Tito and Mireya speak English, Spanish is their first language and they feel more comfortable communicating in Spanish. They have asked me to represent them today by presenting this project on their behalf and assisting with translation throughout the meeting as needed. I also want to mention that I will be referring to notes throughout today's presentation. Tito and Mireya have asked me to make sure that I accurately communicate the information they wish to share with the board and I want to be respectful of that responsibility by ensuring that I address all of the points that are important to them. Tito and Mireya are here with us today and they appreciate the opportunity to share their vision for Patch of Heaven and what they hope this property can become through this application process. To begin, we would like to provide a brief overview of what Patch of Heaven is and what this application represents. So in front of you we have a package. Before we talk about the application I'd like to share a little bit about the heart behind Patch of Heaven and what we hope it can become. Family-owned local business in Garfield County provides a unique gathering space that celebrates the rural character of Garfield County hosts weddings family reunions anniversaries graduations community gatherings and charitable events supports local vendors small business and tourism and serves residents and visitors throughout Garfield County. The first photo provides an overview of the property's entrance. That's the entrance to Patch of Heaven. second image illustrates one of the outdoor areas on the property. Another view of the property. is the space we hope to improve and bring into compliance through this process. So why are we here today? we want to do things the right way. The existing structure was originally approved as an agricultural barn. As the use of the property evolved over time, Garfield County identified that additional approvals and improvements are necessary to safely accommodate public gatherings. We appreciate the county's guidance and understand the importance of meeting all applicable safety and building requirements. Our commitment is an architect has been retained and we are committed to making all improvements necessary to bring the facility into full compliance as a community meeting facility. So you are comfortable with all these conditions of approval? Absolutely. there are 16 of them. Absolutely. And we feel we have addressed every single one in this presentation and that is our wish to meet. I'll let you continue then. Thank you. For us, today's approval would mean the opportunity to move forward responsibly and doing things the right way. Today's request request is not approval to bypass county requirements. Today's request is approval to continue the process of converting the existing agricultural structure into community meeting facility. We understand that additional reviews, permits, plans, inspections, and improvements will be required before final approval and occupancy. Patch of Heaven is committed to completing all requirements identified by Garfield County and Fire District, environmental health, and other reviewing agencies. We are requesting the opportunity to move forward through that process and make the improvements necessary to achieve full compliance. approval to skip steps. We are not asking for the opportunity to take the steps. We are asking for the opportunity to take the steps that are required. Approval to continue the process of converting the existing agricultural structure into a safe and code compliant community meeting facility. We are not asking the board to bypass safety requirements. We are not asking the board to avoid building code requirements. We are not asking the board to avoid inspections. What we are asking for is the opportunity to complete the process properly, to comply with all county requirements, to invest in the improvements necessary for approval. We understand this process comes with responsibilities and prepare to take those seriously. We have hired an architect who will be helping guide us through architect retained the site planning, building code review, accessibility review, occupancy and life safety, parking evaluation, water and septic review, and agency coordination. We know improvements will be needed and we're committed to making the changes required to move forward appropriately. Occupancy classification updates are required, ADA accessibility improvements, fire and life safety upgrades, emergency exits, occupancy signage, parking improvements, improvements required by the fire district, building modifications necessary to achieve code compliance, counting required site improvements, to name a few. We've listened carefully to the concerns that have been shared and we want to talk about how we plan to address them. We've given a lot of thought to this concern, which is the noise concern, and believe that ending outdoor activities by 10 p.m. is one way we can be respectful to our neighbors while still allowing families to celebrate special locations. So on the first concern with noise, we have a printout of a new schedule. It is different than what you currently have in the original package. we originally were requesting for after any changes to the building, it would be any indoor noise would be inside from 10 to 12. But after consideration to our neighbors, after all the concerns and just discussing, we have decided that the events would be ending at 10 p.m. instead. Communication. A designated contact person and phone number will be available during events so neighboring property owners can report concerns, allowing us to respond promptly and address issues as they arise. Traffic. Traffic is another concern we've thought about. We're not traffic experts, which is why we've retained an architect to help evaluate parking needs, traffic circulation and any improvements that may be necessary. Our goal is to make sure that access is safe and that impacts to neighboring properties are minimized. Safety. Safety improvements will be completed as required through the architectural review, permitting, and inspection process. Fire protection. Fire district recommendations regarding emergency access, fire protection, bless you, and life safety will be incorporated into project as required. Occupancy. Occupancy limits will be determined through the architectural and code review process to help ensure the safety and comfort for all of our guests. Water. We understand the importance of having an adequate water supply and we will comply with any requirements identified through the review process. And for septic concern, we understand the importance of protecting public health and are committed to completing all septic requirements identified through the permitting process. noise. We understand that noise has been one of the biggest concerns throughout this process. We've taken that concern seriously and we spent a lot of time discussing what reasonable steps we can take to minimize impacts on neighboring properties while still allowing families to gather and celebrate. One of the decisions we've made is that outdoor activities would conclude by 10 p.m. We believe this is an important way to be respectful of our neighbors and reduce the potential for late night disturbances. Our goal is Patch of Heaven is committed to operating responsibly and minimize impacts on neighboring properties while allowing guests to enjoy special events. Noise monitoring. Sound levels will be monitored through events using a decibel meter and a immediate adjustments will be made if established limits are exceeded. Event staff will be designated to moderate compliance with noise management procedures throughout each event. Event organizers and vendors will be informed of Patch of Heaven's noise management expectations prior to each event. With that, we have also created, that is not part of your package, but we have created guest event policies and guest guidelines. I don't know if you guys have a copy, but we would love to provide you with it, but we just have some ideas on how we can make sure we can verify that we're following through with, that everyone involved is following through with our policies and guidelines. A contact number will be available for neighboring property owners during events. Outdoor amplified music ends at 10 p.m. Doors will remain closed during indoor activities except as necessary for guest entry and exit. supporting local businesses. We also believe it is important to consider the positive impact this project could have on our local community. Estimated local spending generated by one event. A typical event can generate thousands of dollars in spending that supports local businesses and service providers throughout Garfield County. Each event generates revenue for caterers, florists, photographers, bakers, DJs and musicians, rental companies, hotels, restaurants, transportation services, hair and makeup artists, lodging accommodations, local retail purchases, to name a few. Examples of local spending associated with special events. These are examples of the many local businesses that could benefit when people gather here and support our community. These expenses occur repeatedly throughout the year, multiplying the positive economic impact within the community. We understand there has been concerns regarding Patch of Heaven, but we've also been encouraged by the support we've received from community members who have shared what Patch of Heaven means to them. We received 16 support letters and 14 petition signatures. Below, we have some quotes on certain letters that we read that really touched our hearts. the first one is, I believe this venue can make a meaningful positive impact in our community by bringing more people into the area, supporting local businesses, and encouraging tourism in Garfield County. another letter said, we believe that the events and celebrations they host are very important because they help bring families together, strengthen friendships, and promote healthy community interaction. this property has improved immensely from the former vacant corner of weeds. It once was before this fine family spent much time and expense to improve it. We now have a showpiece today. It represents our agricultural roots and carries that force with new modern safety structures in a clean, classy look. When we think about the future, this is what we hope Patch of Cabin can become. A safe gathering place, a community meeting facility serving Garfield County residents, a contributor to the local economy, a community resource, a fully code compliant venue, a respectful neighbor that preserves the rural character of the area. We thank you for taking the time to listen to our story, our vision, and our commitment to doing this the right way. Patch of Heaven is committed to working collaboratively with Garfield County, county staff, neighboring property owners, and the community to create a safe, code compliant venue that benefits residents, supports local businesses, and preserves the character of our rural community. We respectfully request the opportunity to continue through the county's established review process so that all required improvements can be completed and the facility may ultimately operate in full compliance with Garfield County requirements. Thank you again for your time and consideration today. Tito and Mireya truly appreciate the opportunity to share their plans for Patch of Heaven. They care deeply about this community and hope to create a place where people can come together to celebrate life's important moments. We respectfully ask for your support and consideration of this application and we are happy to answer any questions you might have. Okay. Terry, questions? No, that's a pretty good presentation. Okay, Mike, questions? Well, yeah. I'm not against this at all, but I have concerns. Normally, when someone comes before us, they have all these things done beforehand so that it makes it easier for us to approve

-Okay, welcome, everybody. This is Garfield County Board of County Commissioners' work session for Tuesday, June 9th, 9:00 a.m., 9:02. We're a couple minutes late, if you believe that clock. Okay, let's start with roll call, please. -Absolutely. Commissioner Will? -Present. -Chairman Jenkowski? -Present. -Commissioner Samson? -Here. Okay, I'd favor everybody join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. -I pledge allegiance to the flag. -Many, please. -I pledge allegiance to the flag. -To the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. -Please remain standing and join me in a moment of silence in your own way. Okay, thank you. Okay. So first thing on our agenda is discussion of DHS transition, of congregate-- of congregate home-delivered meals. And so with that, Sharon, Sheila, you guys have the floor. -Good morning. -Good morning. -Good morning. -How do you get next to me? -I do. -I always do. -Yeah, sure. -Okay. -I just got one out. -I have my-- I have my-- I'm off. Okay. -Oh. -Oh. -All right. Sharon Longkers-Pritt with Garfield County Department of Human Services, and with me today is Sheila Strauss, Deputy Director, Department of Human Services. And Sheila is going to just talk a little bit about the current landscape and, you know, how we get-- just to kind of put everything into context and kind of where we're at and where we're transitioning to in July 1st. So. -Good morning. -Good morning. -As you're all aware, when we changed our model last year, we had to go from three full-time employees to two full-time employees to cover the cost of that new opportunity. So that's mostly what our transition is based around, is how do we pick up all of the work of three people with only two FTE. So. -And this is effective 7/1. -July 1st. -7/1. -Yep, for July 1st. So we're increasing the supervisor's time. The supervisor currently just kind of pinch hits when we need extra work. The supervisor will be dedicated at least five more hours a week to actually doing on-site frontline. -And is that yourself? -No, it's not. It is not me. We have a supervisor of our older adult programs. And so he will be the person. He will be at a meal site every week and then filling the gaps should either of his two employees not be available. -Okay. -Can I just-- -Yep. -The supervisor that supervises the older adult programs also supervises our adult protection program. So he has some varied responsibilities. The older adult program isn't his only responsibility. And so it's just juggling. And we have a strong lead worker in our adult protection program. And she does take on a lot of responsibilities in regards to that program. So that's what's allowing us to be able to shift some of his time to cover some of these responsibilities. -Does our adult protection program cover just Garfield County? -Yes. Yes. Just Garfield County. And we have 1.5 workers in that particular program area and then a supervisor. -Thank you. -The other opportunity that we have is our division administrative assistant, who was previously deaf to this but did not have to go very often. I think maybe less than 20 hours in the last six months that she needed to go and cover meal sites. We had set it up that she would be able to do data entry and reservation line, those kinds of things. But the team before wanted to keep those responsibilities themselves. Now it's not going to be a choice. They will move to the admin assistant. And that will be dedicated 10 hours a week of the admin assistant to go out to actually manage meal sites, to do data entry, to take reservations, and do some of the other activities. -So that assistant will be on site at times then? -Yes. -So she is in our office and she serves all of the programs in the Child, Family, and Adult Services Division. So she does a little bit for CMA. She does a lot for child welfare. She does some for APS every day. But she will have dedicated time, more chunks, probably going to a meal site maybe once a week, depending on what's going on, plus the data entry. And then there are other duties that this team does. They send out birthday cards to all of the people who are registered participants in any of our programs, so she would take over things like that, getting the newsletters out for mailing. So things that the team was doing already will shift over to her. So that will be another 10. So I should go back. When we went through to figure out how many hours we needed, we need 30 hours. We need quite a full-time spot, but 30 hours of extra work to go back to doing all of the meal sites. So that gives us 15 hours there. We have something called ADRC. It's a program that provides finances for hard services for people 16 and older. It's through our AAA grant. And that has been managed by one of the employees in older adult programs for two years. So we created a position that started at the beginning of this year, and that person is taking on that ADRC role on July 1st. So that will be another 10 to 12 hours a week that's coming out of the older adult programs and going elsewhere. So now we're pretty close to the 30 hours. 27 hours, I think, is where we're at. So we think we can do it. Some future needs that we have is better technology. This program has been run by spreadsheet for the entire time that we have had it, and so many spreadsheets. And so they've been working on decreasing the number of spreadsheets so that they're not putting information in one place and then putting it in another place. They've combined some spreadsheets, but we're going to go a little farther than combining the spreadsheets. Our first step, because we can do it right away, is to move to electronic check-in. So the process right now is that they take the roster, they print the roster, they take it to a meal site, they check off with a pen, make notes on the roster, bring it back to the office, and put it back in the original spreadsheet. So doing electronic check-in will allow to take out that, printing it out, manually writing on a piece of paper, and then manually entering it back in. It'll just go. They'll have their laptops there, they have internet access, and they'll just do electronic check-ins, which will give us back a couple hours a week, they estimate. One worker has been doing it, I think, in parachute at times, and she says it saves her 15 to 20 minutes. I would guess it's a little bit more between all of the pieces of it. So that, we think, about two hours a week. We're also talking to vendors about programs. There are several programs out there for managing these types of programs. And so we've spoken with three and gotten a base amount, not a final amount. And so now that we know about what the ballpark is for these programs, now we're taking a step back and going through our regular -- the regular plan for when we're implementing a new IT idea. So now we'll take it back a step. That should also help us save a little bit more time in the end and decrease -- we won't be using spreadsheets anymore. We'll go into this platform, we'll put the information in the platform, and then we'll tell it what report we want. And we can use that for electronic check-in at the meal sites also. So it will -- should take out all of our spreadsheets at that point and use a service. Yeah. And this was in our budget for this year. And so we're looking at, you know, just exploring some technology and potentially putting it in the budget for 2027 to, you know, just like Sheila's indicated, just help clean up some of those processes and make it a little bit easier with entering data and collecting data. And a lot of time was being spent in just checking boxes and trying to collect the amount of data that we need to be able to report to our funders. I don't think this made it into my report, but we've also worked out next steps for what to do with the excess meals for our Glenwood and Carbondale contracts. And we're -- the supervisor is reaching out to Sunnyside and to Crystal Meadows about a way to work with them to get those excess meals on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday to people in those housing developments. Okay. And I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. Will that be done by our employees or will that be through the traveler or how that works? Still figuring it out. Really just how that process works. At Sunnyside, it would be easy for our employees to do because, you know, the volunteers can work independently for part of the time that they're there that then they could take them up. There's a little bit of investment. We're going to have to get some insulated bags that can be heated so that the meals stay hot long enough to get them to some place. But we do anticipate us delivering them. We just haven't quite gotten to the details on that. In the interim, the extra meals will be brought to the meal site and provided as second meals to the people who are there eating. So starting July 1st, we will be getting all of the meals that we pay for every week. Okay, great. So our previous contract was $244,760. Our new contract is $165,000. I believe you approved it for $180,000. But between the time we developed the contract and the time it came to you, we had negotiated 20 fewer meals on Wednesdays. So instead of 70 meals, we have 50 meals on Wednesdays. So the savings is -- Wednesday is Glenwood Springs or Carbondale? Carbondale. Carbondale. Yeah. Yeah. Fortunately, Eagle County started serving on Wednesdays. And so the kitchen was up. The kitchen was running. So 50 meals was reasonable. He wasn't opening the kitchen just for us on Wednesdays anymore. So our savings is just under $80,000. Our additional staffing time will be $55,500. Are you talking about the time that you've dedicated to other positions? Yes. Yeah, that is the additional staffing. So it's still within our budget then? It is. Okay. Thank you. Yes. And there's a savings of $80,000. We'll have to move some things. It obviously has to move from services. You know, we've got to do a supplement to increase. So -- There is not a savings of $80,000. I just wanted to make sure that we got your question answered. Okay. All right. Because that's a pretty important question. And so Sheila can fill in the blanks. But no, because there's going to be some shifting of that $80,000. And, you know, like she was going into the explanation of the shifting is going to be from instead of contracting that money out to a vendor, we're going to be needing to utilize those funds within internally for personnel cost. Yeah. So the overall -- I don't see a new FTE in here. No. Okay. No, it's not a new FTE. It's real -- it's assigning pieces of the program to new people. The supervisor, the administrative assistant, moving the ADRC. So that's where the increase comes because the person doing ADRC will now be 100% funded out of nutrition. Right now a portion of her salary comes out of ADRC. So it's increased nutrition cost. But the rest of -- because it's moving to somebody else. But it's not a new FTE. It's shifting money from contracts to personnel. So the overall budget does not change. It's shifting allocation. It's shifting allocation is what you're talking about. Yes. That's really the way to think through it. Because the Board is very familiar with the allocations and how that money flows as a shift of those. Mm-hmm. Some of it's allocations. Some of it's grants. I mean, you know, I guess the terminology, per se, isn't particularly important. But, yeah, it's doing some -- just some shifting from one funding source to another. Mm-hmm. So after we take out the $55,000 and increase staffing, we come up with just under $25,000 in the budget that would be earmarked for technology improvements, ongoing administrative supports, and increasing program stability and contingencies. So we think that this will -- this is doable. We will manage it. Mm-hmm. Everybody will run just a little bit faster and more people will be involved than we had two years ago. But we feel like it's doable and we're going to be successful starting on July 1st. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay, great. And then we'll have a couple months to see how this works before we get into budget process for $20. Exactly. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yes. All right. All right. Questions, gentlemen? Nope. Nope. Okay. Thank you. So, we'll have a couple minutes to the public. Mary, you're here to talk about Valley Mills and more. So you have the table. Do you need to set up for -- do you have a PowerPoint? Roy's got you covered? Yeah. He's all set. Okay, great. I'm going to have a presentation. Yeah. Good morning. Good morning. I hope we're set. I requested this meeting on March 4th. So this is how long it's taken us to get here. Oh, gotcha. I'm seeing something differently. So, good morning and thank you for having us today to talk about this. Good morning. This is a work session. So, please stop me if you have any questions as I go through this presentation. It's -- there's a lot of data behind it. I was very happy that Heather from the AAA is actually able to join us this morning. Right. And so, as we reach some of those data points, I'll ask Heather to inform. We're here to talk about the seniors. And we're here to talk about the challenges that the seniors are facing. And especially those that are homebound, living alone, and the lowest of the low income. And as we know -- and you only have to read the newspaper a couple times to realize that people are having trouble making ends meet. And that's a good thing. And I've heard on the news this morning that 60% of Coloradans across the board are not going to the produce aisles because it's too expensive. So, the cost of eating has become great and people on fixed incomes are having trouble keeping up. So, today we'd like to talk about the need. We'd like to talk about what Valley Meals is already doing. And we'd like to ask the commissioners for support for 40 of the lowest of the low income in Garfield County. I also want to note on the contract that's currently in effect, there were 320 meals allocated in that contract. 160 were delivered in the congregate setting and 160 were delivered in the home-delivered setting. So, that's the Valley Meals part. So, this 40 meals a week -- I'm sorry, 40 meals a day, 160 meals a week is not something you haven't been funding. You have been funding this all year and you funded it a year before this as well. So, that's important because the state is focusing more on economically insecure folks. And so, you're already doing where the state is going in terms of prioritizing older adults and older adult programs. So, good. We're a little ahead of the game on that. So, let's talk about the need. So, there's 6,800 older adults in eastern Garfield County. So, just the half that Valley Meals serves. 1,900 -- over 1,900 -- are over the age of 75. So, that age of 75 is that turning point age where the risk of falls and chronic conditions are more prevalent. So, the older adult population is verified by your voting record. So, these are real numbers. The numbers that I gave above actually come from the state demographer's office. And they have released new numbers at the beginning of the year. But not everybody believes those. So, that's why we have them confirmed by your county clerk. Overall, in the county, there's a hundred -- I'm sorry -- 1,112 seniors who are living at or below poverty. And the poverty level that they're using for this number is 15,650 a year. So, you have to take your rent out of that and then that's what's left over. So, there's rising senior food insecurity. There's fixed incomes that are battling with rising costs. And there's physical and mental conditions that limit access to food among the older adult population. What is Valley Meals' role in addressing these needs? We reduce hunger, food insecurity, and malnutrition. We promote socialization and improve the well-being of older adults. We do home-delivered meals four days a week, Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday. We perform a wellness check and we have human connection. For families and caregivers, we do a safety check and we provide assistance where needed in the home. We're the primary or only home-delivered meal provider in eastern Garfield County. There aren't any other options. And in terms of the hospital, we're part of discharge plans so they can release people from the hospital. We're a referral plan for caseworkers who are in the Medicare and Medicaid assignments. And we're a respite provider for families and caregivers. So, we give them a little break while we're there. Who do we serve? All of our participants are over the age of 60. 87%, the real number, 191, are over the age of 70. And 65% are over the age of 75. So, we are primarily focused on the older, older adults. They're homebound or have no transportation. They live alone. They have limiting physical and mental capabilities. Some of those are chronic and some of them are acute. So, if someone's gone in for a hip replacement or broken their wrist or fallen, those are the acute conditions that we're able to serve them while they recuperate. They're geographically isolated, which means they're greater than five miles from a grocery store or transportation. So, right now, about 53% are in Glenwood Springs. 47% are in Carbondale. What's interesting there is we started in Carbondale. For our first two years, we weren't even in Glenwood Springs. So, that gives you an idea of how the Glenwood Springs population is growing in terms of the older adults and the older adults who need our services. 55% are at or below that federal poverty level. So, the poorest of the poor. And low income and extremely low income. So, where do the older adults live? The low and the low income. So, there's five older adult low income facilities in eastern Garfield County. Manor 1 has 31 bedroom units. Manor 2 has 46 one bedroom units. Sunnyside has 47 units. Mostly one bedroom, but they do have two bedroom units. Crystal Meadows has 79 one bedroom units. The Benedict, the new building, has 11 units designated for low income. The only difference there is their bottom line is 55. So, there might be people between 55 and 60 that don't qualify for our program. So, the total low income units in eastern Garfield County is 213. As of June 1st, I've checked with all the management companies and all of those units are full. There was one unit in Manor 2 where someone was moving in, but it was committed to them already. So, in essence, they were full. So, who we serve on this low income spectrum, they reside in those buildings that I just described. About half and half are in Carbondale and Glenwood Springs. They're all at or below poverty levels. They have no vehicles. And now, lately, their friends that did have cars can't afford the gas to put in the car. They have limited or no family support, especially when there's mental illness involved. The families have kind of thrown up their arms. So, there's some isolation there even from their own families. There's physical and mental conditions that limit their ability to shop and/or socialize. That's why they will not go to the congregate setting. And they have limited access to care, caregivers, and your adult protective services. So, I'm going to ask Heather to comment on the new 2026 state requirement. This is a nutritional risk assessment. So, in 2026, all of us, congregate and home-delivered meals, were required to conduct this nutritional risk assessment. And it's so the state can better identify older adults who are most vulnerable to food insecurity, malnutrition, declining health, and loss of independence. Come on up, Heather. Welcome, Heather. Are you located in Grand Junction? Mm-hmm. Oops. You don't have to. Oh, okay, great. It's on. Thanks. Heather Jones, Director of the Area Agency on Aging of Northwest Colorado. My main office is located -- and my only office is located in Grand Junction. So -- and just for clarity, in 2026, the state did roll out the nutritional risk assessment. Particularly for the program that Mary is doing with Valley Meals and More and with Grand River Meals on Wheels. Prior to that, the congregate program was already doing the nutritional risk. But because we kind of fund Valley Meals and More and Grand River Meals on Wheels with a little bit different type of funding, the state wanted to better understand these folks that were serving with what we call material aid home delivery. And so we're going to have to be able to do that. And so we're going to have to be able to do that. And so we're going to have to be able to do that. And so we're going to have to be able to do that. And so we're going to have to be able to do that. And so we're going to have to be able to do that. And so we're going to have to be able to do that. 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So that included the congregate meals? No. No. No. This is just home-delivered meals. Okay. So where are your revenue sources? I mean, it is the Garfield County Human Services Grant. You've got AAA, which says you're going to be at $77,000. With the Human Services, that's about $100,000. Okay. And then I write lots of grants. So are you going to-- I'm happy to report, because I know you'll ask this. Yesterday, Glenwood Springs Financial Advisory Board awarded us $7,500. We have not asked the town of Carbondale. We were waiting for this meeting before we did that. We have grants, large grants coming from Denver Foundations. We have grants coming through the Aspen Community Foundation. We have grants coming through the Western Colorado Community Foundation. Some of these are through donor-advised funds. Some are grants that are competitive grants that we write for the grant, and then we receive them. They range in size from $2,500 to $25,000. So that's how we gather our funds for each year. So it's a really great kind of public and private collaboration, because we're not solely relying on public funding or the Older Americans Act funding. And by diversifying our funding sources, we're, in our minds, a more sustainable program. So we always have flexibility on how often we serve the program so that we're not denying anyone meals. They may not get all the meals if we run short of funding. So we try to keep that diversified so that we don't run into trouble. So here we're just showing you since January of last year through April of this year that we served over 34,000 meals. The cost of those meals, again, these are just the home-delivered meals. It's $355,000. We're running at about $2165 a month on meals. There is some fluctuation depending on how many delivery days there are in a month, but it's pretty consistent how many meals we're serving each month. Now, in terms of how many people we're serving to in each month, that also fluctuates. What's interesting is in the spring and summer months, the number of people we serve goes up, and that's because that's when older adults schedule their surgeries. So their recuperation, they turn to us for four to six weeks so that they can recuperate at home. And so that's why you will see in the May through August the number of people that we're serving is actually greater. Consistently, it's around 144 individuals, and so you'll see January through April of this year pretty consistently at 144. Lots of movement within that number, but that's the number of people. In November, because the county didn't serve meals on Thanksgiving or the day after Thanksgiving, and we were afraid that older adults wouldn't have meals for four days in a row, we opened up our home-delivered meals to people that were receiving congregate meals and other people who needed meals on Thanksgiving and the day after Thanksgiving. So that's why the number went up to 172 individuals served in November. So why does it matter? Two subjects, health and wellness. In the health category, it reduces hospitalization, supports chronic disease management, and prevents malnutrition and falls. As most people know, falls are the greatest fear among the older adult population, especially those over 75. And unfortunately, Colorado ranks very high in the nation of mortality after a fall. So people are dying in Colorado greater than the national average after having a fall. So it's really important that we keep them healthy and nourished. In terms of wellness, social connection, a wellness check, safety net, reduces isolation. We hear anecdotally all the time how much the seniors really appreciate us coming to their door every day, and we support independent living. So the funding and capacity gaps. We started this journey in 2020 when I met with Commissioner Martin, and he tasked us with proving that home-delivered meals were needed. And recently, the department had said that they were not needed. So we set out on this task, and we decided if we could prove that 22 people needed home-delivered meals, that the county would get behind it. Well, we're well beyond that. We met our burden of proof. So post-COVID, there's limited sustainable funding available, both in the private sector and in the public sector. So we had a work session, and we had a work session, which by the way, we were not invited to that work session, or we would have been there. You said three times that you did not have capacity for a home-delivered meal program. There were words, not ours. And there is no food distribution program to address food insecurity in terms of shelf-stable or some of the produce things that we're doing. There's a rising demand in the older adult population as the population increases, obviously. And most at-risk seniors, again, low-income seniors, can't cover the cost of balanced nutritional meals, if at all. So we feel the need has been demonstrated. The challenge is sustaining services for these residents over time. And that's what we're here to discuss. So our position is investment now prevents a greater community cost later. Without stable nutrition and regular wellness, at-risk seniors are more susceptible to APS intervention, increased first responder calls, preventable emergency room visits, homelessness or housing instability, public safety and welfare concerns, and visible senior poverty impacting not only the community well-being, but the visitor experience. We've all seen them begging on the corners. So the ripple effect, the trickle-down effect is great. So hunger quickly becomes a health care issue, a public safety issue, and a human services issue. A $12 meal today can prevent a far more expensive intervention later. So we just did some comparative. Preventative support would be the meal. The crisis response is an emergency room visit. And we have had seniors go to the emergency room to get a meal. So we've all heard about that. Preventative support is a volunteer wellness check. Crisis response is having to call the police or EMS to go check on someone who hasn't been hurt from in a while. Aging safely at home. Preventative support. The intervention is APS, which is not always available case by case. And then preventative support is community connection, which is so important for older adults. And the crisis response is one-time stabilization that chances are it's going to happen again. So county support now addresses food insecurity before it becomes health care, public safety, and human services crisis. So who are the 40 seniors that were requesting? Fred asked this question. Who are these folks? We propose 20 residents in Carbondale, 20 residents in Glenwood Springs. All living alone, at or below federal poverty, no transportation, and high nutritional risks. So we'll put these parameters on these folks if granted this request. So we're assisting the county in addressing the most risk as older adults. In terms of funding, the numbers, 40 meals a day at $12 a meal is $49,920 for the last six months of 2026. So that includes 4,160 meals. We also request a budget consideration for 2027 so that we don't have to come back every year and give you this presentation. Although we're happy to do that. So that would be 8,320 meals annually or 99,840. So as we said earlier, Commissioner Jankowski, we're not -- this is a collaborative community support. We're not asking the county to build a new program. We're asking them to partner -- asking you to partner in a successful program between the county, Valley Meals, our dedicated volunteers, and the donors. It's really a great collaborative program. We have an efficient leverage of public dollars with private dollars. We support and sustain existing delivery infrastructure that is working. It allows aging in the community with dignity, prevents hunger in crisis, and supports a stronger, healthier community. So we're more than just these home-delivered meals. So we don't want you to think that that's all we do. Not to mention we've been running your congregate program for a year. So we've had six years of growth. We've affected 437 unique seniors, and 118,000 meals have been delivered. Again, we're the sole dedicated resource in eastern Garfield County. We also have a medically tailored meal program where we delivered almost 1,000 meals that were provided by Project Angel Heart in Denver that are designed for people with specific medical needs. Right now, we have about eight people that are taking advantage of that program. As through Valley View? Hmm? Through Valley View Hospital? No. No. No. No. Valley View really isn't partnering on any of this. No. They don't refer? They refer people to us. Oh, yeah. They give us the -- but there isn't any funding. And I think, Fred, weren't you going to go meet with Valley View about getting some of those Medicare and Medicaid benefits? There was a discussion about that actually a couple years ago. And the direction of the Board wasn't aligned with that, at least at the time. There are other partners that also are included in that, including Carbondale and Glenwood Springs, as you know. And it seems to be there's probably a more viable gap there. We did talk to them at length about some of the health insurance requirements that perhaps would backfill some of the funding. So we did talk to Valley View, but it really didn't get much traction. Okay. So that might be something that we need to go back. Probably an opportunity for Valley Meals and more. To go back in. Yeah. And we're happy to do that. We also have an initiative called Golden Harvest where we put all of our other food security initiative. We have food pantry in four locations in the low-income housing units. They're in the lobbies of the building. And at Sunnyside, we have actually a dedicated pantry room. And our partner in that is Food Bank of the Rockies. And after this meeting, I'm meeting the truck, Food Bank of the Rockies truck, to take our weekly load. We do produce distribution twice a month in the older adult neighborhoods. So right now, we're doing them at Crystal Meadows, Sunnyside, and Manor 1 and Manor 2. Our partners in that are High Water Farms, who does the CSA shares, and they give their extras to us. Uproot Colorado, who does the gleaning, and they provide us product. And the Colorado Trust, who did the funding to set this up and funds us purchasing produce to make it more robust. We're doing education and information. We just got another new grant from the Colorado Trust where we're purchasing dehydrators, blenders. You know, there's four units that will help older adults preserve some of the produce. So we get these huge amounts of apples and peaches and things like that. And so what can they do to dehydrate those so that they can use them later? One time, we got these bushels of red peppers. And everybody wanted them, but they didn't want them to spoil. So this couple that's at Crystal Meadows offered to teach this. So we got a grant to purchase the equipment and to pay them a little bit to teach how to do that. So those are going to start in August. So we're pretty excited about that. That's a brand new grant. Food rescue. That's another thing that was new. So we're partnering with Starbucks Food Share. So we actually-- all of this food was being thrown away, which is unbelievable. But so Starbucks, all of their food that we rescue is frozen. And so we deliver it to Crystal Meadows and to Sunnyside because they have freezers. We rescue food from Maverick. You can't believe the amount of food that Maverick-- they have so much food that we pick up from them every day. And it's everything from breakfast burritos to salads to pastries to-- I mean, just all kinds of things. Bread. So you go to each Maverick station? The main one is right there on the roundabout coming off I-70. Right. So that one has so much food that we have to drive it around because it has to be eaten within 48 hours. So we have to drive it around. And we actually purchased a refrigerator for a man or two to put this food in there because people wanted it, but we didn't have a place to put it. So we do that every day. And then city market, zero hunger, zero waste also gives us abundance of food. And we work with Harvest for Hunger that rescues food and takes it up Valley. But if they have things that are appropriate for older adult and in older adult portions, they give it to us. So they weigh it and then they give it to us so they get credit for it. And then another new initiative this year is our community and garden connections. So we purchased-- again, this is through another grant. I write a lot of grants. Fresh Fruit Connect is an app. So as a home gardener, you can go on Fresh Fruit Connect, put in our zip code and so that we're the vendor. And then they can put a dozen tomatoes out on their front porch and we'll swing by and get it. So they let us know it's there. We go pick it up. I'm notified it's been picked up. We distribute it at our produce distributions. So it's just another way to get-- you know how everybody has zucchinis in August. So it's another way for us to get the fresh food to the older adults. And the community wants to jump in and help. So this is a great way for them to do it. So-- So-- So 70 volunteers. Is this all being done by volunteering work? Yeah. So they'll pick it up. So our pickup time is after our food delivery. So if they're in the neighborhood where the resident is, then they'll just swing by and pick it up. They also have the opportunity to drop it off at our main location, which is my house. So I've made an area-- Are you in the higher bridge or-- I'm up in the-- Mesa. You're in the Mesa. Yeah. I'm up in the Mesa. So-- But yeah, it just gives people an opportunity to participate in this. And they're always looking for ways to help older adults. So that's-- it just creates a great community effort. So these-- the 40 adults in Carbondale and Glenwood Springs are in the city limits? Yes. They're not-- so you're not talking about unincorporated Garfield County? Well, we-- it's up to you as commissioners. You can direct us where you want us to distribute the 20 meals in Glenwood and the 20 meals in Carbondale. We-- we showed you the HUD housing complexes. And Fred and I had this conversation. In order to live there, they're assessed annually. They go into their bank accounts. You know, there-- there's no fooling around there. So we know that their income levels are very low. And it's very verifiable. And it's 20 people. So if you take the number of people in those units, we're-- we're gonna cover 20 people very easily. And you're also subsidizing them with more than meals because you have-- Yeah. They can come down to the pantry anytime. So what we're-- what we're trying to do is in order to be in Valley Meals program, you have to have some form of home boundness. That might be mental. It could be physical. It could be a lot of things. So there are a lot of people that live there that don't qualify for our program. But they still need food. So that's when the SNAP benefits became at issue. That's when we opened the pantries. So we wanted to have food available. Now, the advantage to me-- I order it every week. And then I go meet the truck. So the advantage to me ordering is I'm ordering things that they've requested as best I can. And they're more interested in, you know, things that they can heat and serve. So they want the-- the soups that are like the chunky soups. You know, things that you don't have to put in a pan and do it-- you know, they put it in a bowl, they put it in the microwave, and they do it. There's some also-- some shelf-stable grain bowls and rice bowls. The ramen noodles I can't keep on the shelf, which-- the sodium. We've done some-- showed them how to add spinach and broccoli to their ramen noodles. So-- but things like peanut butter and strawberry preserves and, you know, some of the better shelf-stable things, they can-- they can also order boxes from LiftUp, but they have a tendency to come with things that-- that are not necessarily senior-friendly. So I'm trying to pick senior-friendly things. And they empty the shelves. We make sure on Fridays that the shelves are fully stocked. And they're-- by Tuesday of the next week, it's amazing how much is gone. We take photos before and after. And then the produce is, again, supplemental. And it's every other week. And we allow them to ask us. Like, some people wanted celery. We had green peppers. Those are things I wouldn't necessarily pick up. But we buy the mixed greens and the spinach in bulk. And then we baggy them into single servings. So it's not to say they couldn't take three servings. But if they have a small appetite, they don't get a big bag of spinach. They get a little bag of spinach that they can eat in one or two meals. So that-- that's what that's designed. So those programs are designed to capture other people that are insecure, not necessarily people on Valley meals, even though there's lots of crossover. So there were-- there's two examples. I'll let you read that on your own. But I do have copies of the full letters. And the one-- the top one-- I'm just going to read it to you. A friend of mine told-- told me about Valley meals. So I called them. Because I'm alone and I don't really bother to cook anymore. I'm 81 years old. Well, the meals are wonderful. But what I discovered, how really alone I am. The first delivery came like the next day. My doorbell rings and here is this smiling, friendly person with my meal in hand. As the days have gone by, it has been wonderful to have that human contact four days a week. A friendly face, a few that I know. One dog knows my neighbor-- I'm sorry. One knows my neighbor and the names of his dogs. I'm part of the community again. I hadn't realized how many days I would be totally alone all day. Now each deliverer is unique, friendly, smiling. I know it's Monday when the prettiest little lady arrives. Not-- not me. Um, they don't come in. They don't stay long. But long enough to leave me smiling, ready to enjoy a nice meal. Now I get up and get myself dressed and ready to meet the wonderful people who deliver the meals. What a gift this program is to me. All I can say is, thank you, thank you. So, it's lovely. And if you want to see the person, I'm happy to share the whole letter with you. The second letter-- and I'll just read what's on the PowerPoint because this is a long letter-- but this came from Diana at Crystal Meadows. So, she's the executive director there. Each week, you deliver security and hope in the form of food. The home-delivered meals on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday are an essential to the health and well-being of our residents. The parade of produce that you initiated in 2025 is a highlight for our community. Providing a beautiful selection of fresh produce for tenants to shop has encouraged creative cooking and fostered a sense of community in the commons. Additionally, when the recent shutdown impacted SNAP benefits, you responded immediately with a new, non-perishable pantry right here on the property. By restocking this weekly-- and we do-- you have provided a vital safety net for those struggling with grocery expenses and access. It is inspiring to see how your efforts are driven not only by recognized need, but by your genuine respect for the voices of those you serve. You always make time to listen to their concerns, needs, and ideas. And that's from Diana at Crystal Meadows. So, that's it. Okay. Gary, questions? Oh, good presentation. Thank you. Mike? Yeah. I've got several questions. Just to make sure I'm straight on this, Mary. You've secured $7,500 from the city of Glenwood Springs through their organization, and you will be going to Carbondale to get, hopefully, funds from them as well. Yes. And they cap it at $5,000 is what we're permitted to ask, but I haven't-- there are new people in Carbondale, and that's why we haven't had the opportunity to present to them yet. Okay. Could I invite Heather back up here for a minute, please? Heather, thank you for being here, and thank you for all the work you do in AAA and through AGNC and so on. She gives us a great report every month. I'm curious in your undertakings, and I know you do a lot of work in Mesa, but also AGNC has Garfield, Rio Blanco, and Moffitt counties. I'm curious in the comments. First of all, would you address--I'm sure they're the same problems or very similar problems in those communities and counties as there are in Garfield County. And how those are addressed. Is there a Mary Kenyon doing these things in other counties? How are these people taken care of and so on? And then if you could expand that, if you can, what about the surrounding counties such as Montrose, Delta, Eagle, so on? Yeah. Thank you, Commissioner Sampson. So in Mesa County, the home-delivered meal program and the congregate program is run a little bit differently than here in Garfield County. There's just one provider, Mesa County Meals on Wheels. And so there's one kitchen that is able to do--they do all of the congregate and dining and home-delivered meals. And so with just the one kitchen, they produce about 500 meals a day. They have 32 routes that go out for home delivery. They utilize over 300 volunteers on a regular basis to make their programs run. Because they're doing so many meals, they're able to reduce their cost of the meal, you know, because, you know, they're buying in much bigger bulk. They have a machine called the Oliver System that they actually are able to package the meal in a, like, kind of a TV dinner-type tray to go out. And that goes out to all the home-delivered participants as well as the dining sites. So that's a little bit different. In Rio Blanco, Rio Blanco County is actually the ones that run both home-delivered and congregate. They have two different sites, one in Rangeley and one in Meeker. And so they have the dining site in Meeker and then the home-delivered meals go out there. So they run two different kitchens. And their problem is they have to use two different vendors because one vendor for food won't go to Rangeley, but they'll go to Meeker. And then another vendor will go to Rangeley, but not Meeker. So they have -- so their costs are a little bit increased, but they try to do some sharing between the two of what they can't get from, you know, Shamrock or Cisco. And so that's a little bit different. So that's a little bit different. There is -- Pioneers in Meeker also does do their own home-delivery meal program. So that's separate from the county, but it's not something we fund. And I think there's a cost to it as well. Do they charge people for the meals or -- Pioneers, I believe, for their -- Pioneer hospitals? Correct, in Meeker. Correct, in Meeker. There used to be a separate home-delivered meal program at the Rangeley District Hospital. And I think the county in Rangeley took that over a couple years ago. So anyone who's over the age of 60 and needs a home-delivered meal, that referral in Rangeley goes to the Department of Human Services, who runs the meal programs, both congregate and the home-delivered program. So that's not taken over. But Pioneer still has their own separate one. I think they also deliver meals to people who are under 60 who are disabled and may not be able to make meals on themselves. In Moffitt County, we actually don't currently fund any of their congregate or home-delivered programs, simply just because of -- there was just too many rules that they have to -- that they didn't want to -- are difficult for them to meet. But the Moffitt County Housing Authority is the one that does their meals. So they have a dining site at their low-income housing called Sunset Meadows. And so they -- folks come over to one of the buildings that has all the meals in it. And then they also do home delivery. There's also a big church there in Craig called St. Michael's. And they do meals as well. They open it up on Wednesdays and a variety of days because there is a lot of food insecurity for not only older adults, but just adults in general. And so they try to get food out to folks as well. Is St. Michael's like Catholic Church? It is. Okay. It is like a St. Michael's -- it is St. Michael's Catholic Church up there. But they're -- I think they recently lost their director, so they're not sure where the direction of that program is going to go. A lot of the community members are hoping that it will stay because it has been such a stabilizer for some folks to be able to just get nutrition. The housing authority in Moffat County, is that under the auspices of the county commissioner? Yes, it is. Okay. But we -- like I said, we don't currently fund them, so that's all funded by the county itself. And what happens is over there they do charge the individuals. It's $3 a meal. So if there is an older adult who can't afford that $3 a meal, the AAA is helping in the sense that they can apply for some voucher funding. So the executive director, if they talk to the individual saying, you know, they need a food, but they don't have the funding, they'll make a referral to the ADRC in Garfield County to pay for that, you know, monthly -- In Moffat County? In Moffat, yep. A -- A -- what did -- who did you say? The what? The aging and disability resource of Colorado, ADRC. So that's funded by the state then? It's funded by the AAA. So the ADRC here in Garfield County not only serves Garfield, but they serve Rio Blanco and Moffat counties. But since we don't currently fund a nutrition program in Moffat County, we're doing a food voucher to help pay for those -- home delivered meals or their dining meals for folks who don't have those $3 to be -- for a meal to be able to do that. We usually don't serve a ton of folks, just a handful. I think right now we're helping out maybe one individual who can't afford that $3. And the cost above the $3 is covered by the county? Correct. Yep, that's what built within the county budget. Okay. Okay. What about Surin Mesa -- or not Mesa, but Delta? And do you know anything about Delta or Montrose? Similar? Or is it similar to like what Mesa does? So right now they've just lost their contractor. It was Volunteers of America. So they're trying to figure out how they're going to be running their dining sites. During the pandemic they lost another contractor. So they've been actually unfortunately having to do what we call drop shipment meals from mom meals. So they have like kind of like frozen meals that are coming in that are just being delivered out because they can't get -- they haven't been able to secure a local vendor to be able to make the meals and get them out. And that's Delta? I think it's a mixture of Delta and Montrose. I just recently talked to the Region 10 AAA Director, Brian Bowler. And so they're trying to scramble to figure out how to feed folks when they don't have a vendor to be able to do so because they just got a 30-day notice. So they were -- so they don't yet know how that -- what that's going to look like. They may have to order more mom's meals and just try to give those out at a dining site as well. But, you know, that's a little -- you know, it's different when it comes cold or frozen and then you heat it up than having just a warm, fresh meal that's been cooked and prepared. Thank you. Okay. Open it up to the public. Mayor Jane, you have any comments or coral? You need -- here. No, but I know that -- Here, right there. --Socorro County did have fresh produce that we didn't give out of the meal sites. Are we not just still doing that? We received a notice last year that the funding had been cut and we were not able to apply for the grants. Okay, Coral, do you have some comments? Are you good? I'm good. Okay. Okay. Okay. Mary or Sheila, do you want anything more? Sharon or Sheila? I'm sorry. Sharon, Mary or Sheila, anything more? No, I think we're probably good. Okay. Gary? No. Mike? I asked mine. Okay. Well, there's a funding question on the table, so we need to -- I don't know that we need to give direction now, but we need to take that into consideration. Can't take any action today, so we can't take action. Right. Right. Work session. All right. So to make sure, basically, you would like $50,000 for the rest of this year and $100,000 for next year. Yes. Oh, I wanted one more question. So, basically, I know this varies some, but $12 a meal, is that basically where we're at? Yes. Are you about $12 a meal for your meals? Are you asking us, Commissioner? Yeah, both. Yeah, both. For congregate as well as the -- It depends on the location. Rightful is going up to $13 a meal for the next fiscal year. Our contract with Aspen Chef is per day. It comes out to about $17 a meal. Our current contract is for $14 a meal with Valley Meals and more. Okay. Previous contracts were $12 and $12.50. Is that comparable to Moffitt and Rio Blanco and Mesa County for meal expenditure? Mesa County's meal expenditure is much smaller because they do a larger quantity. And they cook themselves. And they cook it themselves. You said 500 meals a day? Yes, 500 meals a day. Bulk. Bulk. So, they can -- you know, their cost savings is significant compared to other parts. I think Rio Blanco is probably in the similar ballpark of here in Garfield County. So, I can't quite tell you what it is in Moffitt County since we don't specifically fund them. Okay. Thank you. All right. Thank you. So, just because this starts in July and we had to wait a long time for this work session, when do we think we can get it on the agenda? Well, I was going to tell the commissioners, Valley Meals and more is on your July 15th agenda as a presentation to the Board under the Human Services timeframe. And so, that would be a legitimate place for a financial ask and any deliberation and decision by the Board if there's a level of funding you're interested in providing. Does that work for you? That works for me. That would be great. That's next Monday. Yes. Okay. And we have to just end possibility of going back to three meals a week? For the lowest of the low income? Yes. I mean, we -- yes. Okay. And that would be in those -- And that $7,500 from Bluewood would be tied back into that? Yes. So, that's a meals only grant. Right. And so, we have -- obviously, in the ask, we told them what we would do with the money. So, we identified people that live within Glenwood Springs. Glenwood Springs, correct. And then, had parameters on that. Yeah. But that's either three meals a day for 208 days is what that equates to. Right. Or four people for a year. You know, so, you run through it pretty quickly. It seems like a lot, but -- and that's because of the volume that we're delivering. So -- Okay. And you're going to Carbondale? Yeah. We will go to Carbondale. And we know that they contribute to the Senior Nutrition Program through your MOU. So, we don't want to -- Right. -- get in the way. And, you know, they're -- I don't want their response to be -- -- we're already funding meals through our MOU. 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And I think the other thing is both these are there's logging, natural resource access on logging on Buford, Four Mile has logging and natural gas assets. Right. I think I don't think those are heavily graded in the criteria as far as I think it's more about just the access for the citizens is what they're really focused on. So great benefits of that. But as far as this grant, I don't think it's very highly-- It's not part of the scoring then. Correct. Another interesting aspect about this is you don't have to have matching funds. But obviously matching funds probably increases the chances of getting that. So we have in our five-year CIP funds available for Four Mile, the Buford-Newcastle. So that would be money-- Four Mile funds are from transportation? From road and bridge. We have-- What's our transportation? --two different phases. One, a three million-- Impact fees, transportation impact fees. Yeah. How much is it for Four Mile? Three million in one phase and two million in the other. So we have the total-- And what do we have available for matching? For a-- I think that's a-- that would be up to the-- To the board. I mean, we need to talk to Jamaica on that. Yeah. To see what she-- 'cause she said-- I believe, Fred, Jamaica was gonna bring those funds back in to road and bridge fund for our traffic impact fees. Yes. They're-- they're there. They're available to use. Yeah. I think it'd be a good use of those. Well, I don't know why we wouldn't do this. Oh, I agree. I'd say, yeah. I don't know why we wouldn't do it. You have the green light, first of all. Yeah. Okay. I guess that if we have-- we can add a little bit to that with some matching funds, I think we should do it. And we can do in-kind work, too, so-- Right. That counts towards the match? Yes, sir. Excellent. We're looking at possibly purchasing a pecan head to help with brush and tree mitigation along the roads, so that could be some of our in-kind match on both roads. We could help with some of the dirt work or anything along those lines. So you can do in-kind match, and I think we'd have the opportunity to get some other people, some other interest groups that might jump on to help drive the participation up, which always makes it look better for grants, especially federal grants. Yeah. Yeah, we have snowmobile clubs. Yes, sir. Got that-- Four-wheelers, whatever. Yeah. I think they'd jump on. Yeah, those are both, yeah, four miles. Yes, go. That's all right. Go for it. Yeah, so, Rob, in your discussion with Scott in the forest, in terms of a priority and what we could leverage for the best benefit for Garfunke County, what's your thought around these both? So it depends on what the priority of the commission it is. So one project gets us a project that we didn't have budgeted for that would be 100% paid for by the grant. That would be the Beaufort-Newcastle. Not budgeted, but it gets us a project for nothing. The other one would actually bring money back to the county and the budget and saving because we've already budgeted in our five-year CIP. So it kind of depends on what your priority is. Or we could use those funds elsewhere. Exactly. Basically. I mean, it's-- So the benefit to the four-mile road is that that would actually save the county money. The Beaufort-Newcastle road just gets us a project that we didn't have money for. Now, we can apply for both and during the screening process, like they do an initial screening, we might get feedback saying which one has a higher priority or not. But if the goal of the commission really, commissioners, is really to save money and increase the availability of our budget, four-mile would be the highest priority. Well, I think if we saved money that was in our budget for four-mile, I think we'd want to have the ability to use it elsewhere. We've allocated those funds. I mean-- Yeah, it gets you spending capacity. Right. Or savings capacity, however you look at it. But-- For other projects. --that would be more beneficial. Can I come forward? Sure. I just got a call from Bola. I don't know. I'll just be there. Just add-- Discussing traffic impact fees. Uh-huh. What's the dollar amount we have this year to come back? I think it's around 537. Okay. Yeah, it's under 600,000. Okay. And that could be--go to any of--either the--we're talking about Buford Road and we're talking about Four Mile Road. Thank you. I can go and get my computer and pull that up. No, that's a good--I just needed to guess a minute. Yeah. So what you're saying is we could apply for both of them. But the chances of them--what did you say, 16 million? There's only 16 million, so-- The chances of us both getting-- In that statewide-- --or getting zero, we're not going to get both of them. That isn't going to happen. Yeah. Okay? Yeah. So then they're going to say, which one do you want? And you're saying, do you think the best ultimate use of funds for us would be to go with Four Mile? Four Mile would save the--save the county money. And land for sure-- Newcastle would get you a project that, for free, that you wouldn't get-- I'd really love to do--I'd really love to do the Buford Newcastle because I really would like to do that. But-- Well, what--it was two years ago when we did all the work on Buford? Yeah. And how is that holding up? I mean, are we washboarded out again or-- No. The road's actually in pretty good shape. Pretty good shape. This does go through and do safety improvements where you could widen the road. You could--we could look at some of the pavement that we have, see if we wanted to fix anything along those lines and put all this into one package that would start--because technically we can go all the--leave all the way back to the Newcastle town limits. There's where we start. So you could go back through there and look and see if there's things that we need to fix on the road and go up. There's all sorts of different options that you can do with that. But that top part as you're going up towards the snowmobile parking lot is extremely narrow. You could widen some of those out. Like I say, just make it a whole package. And once they accept the project, it's pretty much--they come in and they do everything. You would go to the project meetings, but they take care of everything. So it goes out to bid? We were not going to do any in-kind work? We could. I mean, if you wanted to, we could make that part of what the grant package was when you put it together. We could bring that in to you guys and show you what the in-kind work would be once we totally established the parameters of where we wanted to go and see what you guys thought of those. Do you have capacity for in-kind work? I'm going to be relying heavily on him to help you with this because obviously if you're doing more than one, it's more work. I think we just need to apply for one. Correct. I don't know. The chances of us getting to-- I think we're asking for too much. I mean, you've got the whole state. It's got $16 million. Lance, do you have something? Yeah, commissioners. It's the-- whichever direction you go, the one thing to keep in mind, that this is a competitive process statewide. So Federal Highway Central Federal Lands manages it. They have the program-- sorry, the acronym, it's the PDC, it's the board that evaluates these applications. But they do try to spread this money out. So yes, I think you're correct, commissioner, that it's unlikely that you get two. But one thing to consider is by submitting two projects, you know, one of those may be more attractive to federal highways to implement. And, you know, they could provide feedback on that and guide you. So that's your recommendation? I would say you may want to consider that. The Forest Service, I mean, you know, both of those roads need work. This is obviously a county-driven application, so we would support you in whichever direction you took. So. I think we do need to come up with Scott, Rob, with some sort of matching in-kind and maybe traffic impact East Jamaica. Okay. If that's--I mean, you were going to bring those funds back into Road and Bridge Reserves anyway, correct? Yeah, we signed on that in October. Mm-hmm. So there are those funds. I'm assuming this is just a federal grant that we're looking at getting for one--for two projects, potentially. We do want to make sure that we do follow the grants policy because they are federal funds. Who fills out the grant? Garfield County? It's--yeah, typically, I mean, the application for the grant will come from the county. The Forest Service, though, will work collaboratively with you to fill out and provide the data and so forth with it. So it's a collaborative effort, but at the end of the day, it does come from the county. The county would be the fiscal agent. Yeah. For this grant, the Forest Service would not be eligible. It has to be local government. Right, local government. But they said that the Forest Service does the whole program, including the fiscal agent side of it. Is that correct? Well, it's actually--federal highways will actually run the project. So it's federal highways in Colorado. It's administered by Central Federal Lands Highway Division. They basically serve cradle to grave. So when the--so, again, we work collaboratively, the Forest Service and the county, to submit the application. If the project is awarded, Central Federal Highways stands in as the lead agency. So they complete all the environmental clearance under the National Environmental Policy Act. They prepare the design, the bid packages. They manage the bid process. In addition, they provide construction oversight and then project closeout. And as Scott mentioned, you know, it's basically collaboratively the county and the Forest Service and any other interested parties would be at the table just to provide guidance and direction to federal highways on how we would like to see the project implemented. Okay. Awesome. I swear you can do that. The other thing on Four Mile is, I mean, sunlight, mountains on Forest Service land. Yeah. Oh, wow. So I mean, that's, you know, that's another user there. Yep. I have a question. Do we--we have traffic counts on both of those roads? I do, not with me. I'm just curious. I can get those and email them to you guys if you want. So then, I mean, is this going to go back to Jamaica to fill out the application? Who's going to do the application? I thought-- Yeah, we'll be doing the application in coordination with the Forest Service. Scott, Rob, will be doing it in working with Jamaica? Yeah. Yeah. We can just--once you have the application, if you can send it to finance, we're happy to review it and help them. Yeah. So we have time. The grant--the applications are due till August. Yeah, this is for 2027 projects, I would take it. Correct. But it's probably going to be a four to five year process before the end. They won't make a decision on the grants till after the first of next year. We'll get notification, then of course the design and whatnot. So you're looking four to five years to the completion of the project. Really? Okay. And the next cycle for this grant pretty much is another five years away, so. Yeah. Yeah, we need--let's try and bring this one home. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, my opinion is play for both, but. Okay. Yep. I'm good with that. If that's your direction, let's do that. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. It's good news. Let's see how well we do. Okay. Thank you. I think there will be pretty tough competition. Okay, Fred. We're to Travis. Yep. Community Corrections annual report. You're on the opposite end of our fiscal year. You're on that state calendar. So good to see you, Travis. Good morning. Thank you. Good to see you guys. As two of you are familiar, I every year have to do a report from the previous year for not just community corrections, but that's what drives it. So we report on the basic overview of what happened in criminal justice services throughout 2025. And I'm sure all of you are, I hope all of you received the packet. Perfect. Yes. So I won't try to take a lot of time to go through the whole thing, but a couple areas, key areas I wanted to try to emphasize a little bit is looking at 2025, one of the pages is titled the success rates. And we cover all the different programs there a little bit. Useful public service, our total numbers were down a little bit through 2025, the total number of enrollees. But Shari with finance pointed out that that correlates pretty closely with the number of arrests in Garfield County being down about the same percentage for 2025. So kind of... And it's useful public service work enders and work release? Those are three kind of individualized programs. Okay. Those are three kind of individualized programs. There are alternative sentencing options for the first two, and then work release is a kind of a condition associated with jail sentence. So work release numbers actually were... Overall numbers were increased slightly from 2024. The total number of days that people spent in the work release program was just over 1,830 days of work release time. And we were just right around 1,800 mark in 2024. So we're seeing a slight increase. So we have fail and success. What's your... What's that... Your pie chart down below has fail, a very small number. Looks like... Of the number of people that actually enrolled in the work release program, we only had a handful, less than six, that did not make it through that. They're assigned time in work release. Okay. Um... And it was work enders that you brought that program back. Work enders took a big hit in 2020, 2021. It decreased dramatically. Um... I hate to say we never really got rid of it, but we did utilize staff from those... That program to help cover with other things in community corrections and/or in work release useful public service areas. We have downsized that as far as only one staff associated with the work ender program directly right now. While the other position is in the frozen status. Um... So we've seen lower numbers in 2025, but higher numbers than we had in 2020, 21, and 20... Leading up to 24. So useful public service, those are the guys that go out with your... With your deputy. And... That's the work ender program, sir. Work ender is... Goes out with your deputy. Correct. It's not, I thought... Useful public service. They coordinate with us and we report on their work to the courts, but they go to a variety of... They do a big sales. Yep. Yep. So they go out independently and perform those services. All right. The work enders, you've seen, I'm sure, moving county furniture around, painting graffiti, picking up garbage along the roads or the landfill. Used to pick up, uh, recycle, I think, so... We didn't include the numbers in this report because I was unable to accumulate all of the numbers for 2025. But when we were looking back, we have documented over seven tons of trash that we picked up around the county and deposited in the landfill in 2025. Um, 6.9 tons of trash or debris that were picked up off the roadways by the work ender program just in '25 that we can confirm and then there was additional. So we only started tracking the last, about half of '25. Um, so... So... Are those county roads, state highways? What... Primarily county roads. Good. We try... We used to do a lot of interstate work... Right. ...five, six years ago, but with the traffic and the likelihood of incidents along interstate highway, we've kind of steered away from that the last few years. Having one supervisor and anywhere up to seven or eight, uh, clients out on the side of the interstate seems a little risky most of the time. Right. If we can go on the frontage road and clean up along there, get out on the county roads, that's really where our focus lies. Okay, great. Um, the, uh, graffiti clean up or cover up programs, um, I think I've showed you guys some pictures of that in years past. We try to provide that service basically throughout the county. So, bridges, overpasses, some of those things will incorporate some state bridges and that kind of thing. But, primarily focused on county effort. Um, work releases we talked about briefly was the, is the program we started here so, a couple of years ago now, late 2022. And then last year we were able to add Eagle County in as part of the contributing group with that. And that's someone that receives a jail sentence, either felony or misdemeanor, but is approved for jail sentence and then allowed to work in work release. Um, are they seven days a week or is it primarily weekends on work release? Work release is seven days a week. Um, while they're in jail, if they're approved for work release, then they live in the community corrections center and rifle. And they can work at the job that they have, primarily a job they have prior to being, uh, convicted or sentenced. Um, so they work for their employer, whoever that may be. And they, we allow them to work up to seven days a week. We've had some folks that were working part, two part time jobs and it covered seven days a week. Um, but they are basically only allowed out of the program for 12 hour window. So they're, they're serving a jail sentence. They're booked in with the jail. Then they come to us. Once they get processed into our program, they can do a pass for up to 12 hours per day to go to an approved work site. And that's about all they can get out for is work. Uh, there are some exceptions depending on, you know, medical issues or some things authorized by the court treatment programs, that kind of thing. But it's a much more limited program even than, than, uh, community corrections because it is based on a jail sentence. Um, and there's... Um, and there's... What percentage of your population is work really? Uh, right now we're at seven people in the program. So significantly low percentage of the overall 60 beds that we have. Okay. We typically average around five to six. And there's ups and downs that go with that. But five or six would be the yearly average right now. Okay. Being involved in that. Most of those are associated with, uh, DUI convictions. Right. Because of the mandatory jail sentence associated with that. Um, they're still working. They have a job. They have the opportunity to do work release in the court size and maintain that employment and that contribution. If they're, if they're a DUI, how do they, how do they get to work? Uh, public transportation's one option from where we're at. Somewhat limited option. Most of them either ride with someone or many of them actually still can drive. Uh, either have their license back, um, have a lot more restrictive, uh, the blow and go or the, um, intoxilizer systems. I'm not sure what the names of all of them are, but, uh, so restricted license, the SR-22, the SR-22s or the higher insurance rates. Uh, but as long as they meet legal criteria, we do allow them to drive in the program if they can do so. They park their vehicles at your shop? Yes, sir. Uh, they're the only participants in, in the community corrections program that can drive their vehicles to and from the building. Uh-huh. Uh, just because parking's such a limited issue down there. Uh, the other piece that's important to mention is that work release participants pay their own way in the program. That's not a significant outlay of funding to the county directly. Um, their fee is currently $60.70 a day, plus costs associated with the, uh, GPS monitoring system and any urinalysis collections or testing that we have to do. Uh, so that cost is bared, borne by the, uh, client participant. That's part of the deal with, they have to be working and have to be able to pay those costs to be able to participate in the program. And that's unfortunately where some of the failure rate comes in, is they either can't pay the bill or they, they've lost their job and they can't qualify for the program being unemployed. So, and if you flip one of the pages, I think I indicated that we've, we had generated slightly over $118,000 in revenue just off of that program alone last in 2025. Or, yeah, 2025, that's right. Yeah, that's for 43, that's substantial for 43, 41 people. Yes, sir. $60 a day. Yeah. 61 in roughly here. It does add up. Um, cost of DUIs is very high. Yeah. Especially if you have 180 day jail sentence. Yeah, if you hire a lawyer and everything else that goes with that. Yeah. Uh, I want to just briefly touch on the, so if you guys don't have any questions about that, just touch briefly on the community corrections numbers from the next page. There's some frequently asked questions that, several of the public presentations I've been involved with typically always ask these questions. Um, gross income from clients that are related specifically to community corrections placement. We track that information as part of our contract with the state. Um, 2025 gross income for our clients topped a million dollars. Um, some years it's a little more, some years a little less. 2025 was a pretty good year. And so that gross income is that from, uh, state dollars or those state dollars? Those are, that's income from clients, uh, that they made working out in the community as part of their program assignment. All right. That's. Which then correlates into the child support and the federal state and local taxes and then restitution payments that the clients are paying. So that million dollars was income that clients raised, uh, earned throughout their state. Bear in mind that community corrections clients typically average between seven and nine months in our program. So some are there a little longer, some are there a little less, but overall it's probably an eight month average for majority of our clients to be residential, uh, clients in the community corrections building. Um, but that contributes significantly back to the tax base and then to the restitution payments is the big area. So, uh, the large, large number of these are direct sentence from the court. In 2025, that's correct. In previous years, we were about 50/50 direct sentence from the court and transition clients out of the Department of Corrections. So, right, since they're up to the court, those are, those are local individuals then? Yes, sir. They're out of the ninth district or districts close by that for some reason have a tie to this area. Okay. Our emphasis with direct sentence or direct placement is the ninth district, so the three counties there. And then we do pick up occasionally from Mason County, Eagle County, and Rout County, Moffitt County area, just because there's limited programs to the north of us, i.e. none anymore. And, um, for Eagle County, we're the closest. For Summit County and some of those areas, I'll refer to the front range primarily. Do you see much difference in the, to success from diversion versus transition? Hard for me to say that there is based solely on that. There's a difference in their, their personalities, their understanding of the system when they come into the program is very, very different. And that's why we really enjoy the balance. The folks coming in on direct sentence typically see community corrections as a punishment doled out by the court. This is your, your cost. So they're somewhat resistive to that. The folks coming out of the Department of Corrections on a transition are saying, this is a step down. It's a privilege for me to be able to get here. So they're, they tend to balance each other out with, you know, this, you should be happy you're here instead of going to the Department of Corrections kind of thing. And that seems to help some. Success wise, I, unfortunately with the state, all of our numbers end up being conglomerated together for community corrections as an entire package. I don't know that I have great numbers that say one form or the other is more successful. Almost everything associated with state tracking of corrections in general is focused on the failure rates, not on our success rates, unfortunately. So you hear about recidivism all the time. It's kind of the cornerstone. I try to shift that focus when I'm talking with community groups and with you guys as well that, you know, they're saying 30 or 40% or 50% if you're looking at Department of Corrections. And I say, well, our success rates run from 50% to 70 to 80%, depending on the opposite side of that recidivism number. Statewide, I think the last time I looked at the dashboard, community corrections was running about 73 to 75% success. Right. As they define that looking at recidivism, but I flipped that around the other way. So their recidivism rates are around 30% overall. And that encompasses both transition and diversion clients. And that's, I will say that just not part of this, but as you guys know, we are trying to have a kind of a reunion picnic thing going on on Sunday to try to-- One o'clock Sunday. One o'clock Sunday. One 30 is kind of when we're getting kicked off. And I won't be there, Travis, but thank you for doing that. I'm glad to come. We're trying to recognize and support the successes that we have had throughout the years in this community to include our employers that also are a key part of that. If they wouldn't hire felons, many of our clients wouldn't be able to generate the kind of revenues they do and get the support they need to leave our programs independent. You know, not cost the community. So trying to recognize both of those. And that was driven by clients, former clients that have been out in the community successfully living their lives for some of them. 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Yeah, Fort Collins is 365,000 people or something listed. Do we have do we get transition out of the rifle corrections? We do get some out of rifle corrections. We pull from all over facilities all over the state. And that depends on where the person classification is for them while they're in the Department of Corrections. But we get referrals and screen based on where their ultimate destination is going to be. So we're primarily screening candidates from the Department of Corrections that intend to parole to or have family support and plan to live in the 9th Judicial District or very close to it. But Travis, do you get pressure to accept more transition? Every day. Because I know they want them to do. Because trying to reduce the prison population. Yeah. And what is our vacancy rate right now? Today, we could pick up 16 more people. 16. Okay. We have six more scheduled in the next two weeks to come in. But, so 10 more than what we currently have scheduled. We're running at 40 today. And we could be at 56. How many total employees? Criminal Justice Services has 23 and a half. So 18 are focused primarily on community corrections. So you want to touch on pretrial at all? I currently, actually, we'll talk about that more in the future. We'll talk about that at budget time? As we get to budget time. Okay. Yeah. Because one of those halftime positions is with pretrial. Yeah. I'll work with Rob and Fred and we'll talk about budget time. Yeah. That'd be good. See if it's working or not working. And, um... But we do have, we incorporated some numbers in this report for you to, if you want to take a look at the numbers of people in Garfield that we're looking at. Because we also provide some service with Pitkin County through pretrial. Right. As far as their CPAP review of anybody that's arrested before they get into their bond hearing, we provide that service currently at a peace rate with Pitkin County. 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I would actually--I just wanted to find--actually, I wasn't here for calendars, so I'm wondering if I could ask you guys a couple of questions about the calendars, because we do have BOE coming up next month. And as you know, we schedule like three weeks of the BOE hearings. But we only do one. Exactly. Yeah. And so, I just--I wanted to--and we don't have to do this now. We could do it, you know, on Monday. But I just wanted to put that on your radar so that we could get dates. Maybe you're not available and we could pick a week. Okay. So we could free up this room, because I think people also start asking for this room and-- I think we're usually the 3rd or 4th. Yeah. In July. Mm-hmm. And so I just wanted to see if you guys had vacations scheduled. I have a family reunion. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Which will be from Thursday, July 16th through Sunday. Okay. The 19th. Okay. So maybe the following week. Yeah. Okay. All right. Excellent. I don't have my calendar. Yeah. That's okay. I know that's why I'll--we can certify. We can go on Monday. Yeah, that's the week before--that's the week before county fair, so-- Yeah. We're in good shape there. Mm-hmm. Yep. I wanted to make sure we had that on the calendar. And that was--that was that I also--I'm going to schedule an executive session on Monday. I know Monday's going to be a very-- It's going to be, yeah. A very long day. It's going to be a long day, so it'll be at the end of the day. So-- And so I wanted to ask also your preference is would you like me to do that on Monday? I need to do it, like, within the next, you know, maybe 10 days. And so I'm wondering if you wanted me to do it on Monday or you wanted to set a special meeting. Let's do it Monday. Okay. That's why I figured you might have that preference. Do we have land use on Monday? Do you know? We have land use. Land use? I don't think so. It's not appeared on the draft yet. Okay. We do have land use on Monday. You know. Which--who is it? We do. Um, Mr. Ruiz is coming in for a--I believe he's on for a land use change permit. That's a limited impact. Oh. So that would be a public hearing. Yeah. That's correct. Mm-hmm. I believe--I believe that's scheduled for Monday. That's for a-- Not on your draft yet. That's for an event center. Okay. That's--that's already been built. Oh. Yes. Oh. So, yeah, I think there--I think there is. I think there is that. So we will have a long day on Monday, but I just wanted to confirm with you guys you were all right with an executive session. Okay. I think land use would take an hour if that-- Yeah. Well, yeah. Probably likely. Yep. Okay. Yeah. All right. Thank you very much. That was all for me. I'll save the rest for Monday. Okay. So we're set for Monday for executive session. Yep. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. With that, we can be adjourned. Thank you, Evan.

Go ahead, yeah, mine says two minutes. Okay, let's go ahead and get started. We'll start. We'll wait for what you said. Okay, are we ready to go? Yes, sir. Okay, so this is our Board of County Commissioners meeting and parachute for June 8th, and would you please start with the call? Absolutely. Commissioner Love. Present. Chairman Jake House. Second. Commissioner Sampson. Here. Okay, if you'd all join me, we pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay, thank you. If you'd just please stay standing and join me in a moment of silence in your own way. Okay, thank you. Okay. Before we get started, I am going to make a change to the agenda. We are going to, we have an executive session slated. We are going to move the executive session and the attorney 's report to the end of the agenda, so we can go ahead and get through the land use applications on the agenda. So, with that, public comments from citizens not on the agenda. Do we have anybody here that would like to make a comment? It looks like everybody's got something on the agenda, so we're good to go, and we don't have Zoom, so we don't have to worry about that. First thing is our consent agenda, and that's four items. It's probably the smallest consent agenda I've ever seen, actually, in my 16 years. So with that, gentlemen, I'd like to ask for approval of consent agenda. Chair, I believe we approve the consent agenda items 124. Second the motion. Any other discussion? Hearing none, I'll call the motion. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Okay, I got that. Mr. Jarman, we are to public meetings. Action items? Yes, thank you, and good morning, commissioners. Two action items this morning. First, this is a recommendation to renew the contract with Cork Health, LLC, who was just in front of you, to provide medical, mental, and ancillary health care services to individuals committed to the custody of the director of jail. Kimberly Kiesberg and Cassie Dahl are here to make that presentation this morning. Good morning. Morning. Okay, Kimberly, do you want to start? Sure. So to follow up from the presentation the other day, for Cork Health, this is the recommendation to renew that contract for health care services. You know the background from that presentation, but we came to an agreement on an amount, and so we're asking you to discuss and either approve or disapprove the renewal of the agreement with Cork Health , LLC, in an amount not to exceed $2,936,119.38, and the authorized signature of that contract. Okay. Kathy, comment? Yeah, so we did have conversation, love conversation, and we do every year ahead of time in preparation for this next renewal, where we asked to be able to increase cost payments to the nursing staff to continue to stay competitive in the region and the area. So we did budget this year for a up to 5% increase to go directly to staffing, and Cork Health, after further negotiation, they came back and they said they could do what needed to be done within a 4% range, so they did reduce initial conversations a little more than $26,000 this next fiscal year. The $2.9 million also includes our pass-through grant funding from that medications of $160,000, so that part is included as $2.9 million. I wish I had one of the ladies. Yeah, I wish. We'll do it. Okay, gentlemen, we had a presentation from Cork Health, and we had plenty of time to comment then. This is a really expensive, it is our most expensive contract that we have. It's for jail, and I think our rationalization on that is that we don't end up with lawsuits for health coverage, which we have had in the past. But it is, I mean, I was going to take them, I was going to try to figure out how much this costs per in mate per day, and I forgot to do that, I can't do it in my head right now, so. I think they work it out to, per inmate per day cost, on their original, what was, a little more than $80,000 or something. $80,000 a day. Based on the population at that. That, that, I can stomach that a little bit more than the 2.9. Yeah. Other, other discussion. Mr. Chairman, I can tell you, having returned from the County Attorney's Conference last week, a significant portion of our discussion was about jail medical and the lawsuits, and the different companies that they're able to the front range deal with, and numerous problems that we have not had with poor health , I can speak to. They've been a great partner in terms of trying to limit liability, and indemnify us if something happens, compared to what, a number of other counties are dealing with, I've been very impressed with poor health, in terms of dealing with them, and their conscientiousness about the liability. It is the highest dollar contract in the county, but also probably our highest liability. So, expensive, but poor health has been worth it so far. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Yeah. Is there anything more for Mike? I would say our hands are tied. We have to do it with the United States. I don't want to take the risk. Yeah, I agree with that. Okay. This is an action item, and we'll take a motion. Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve the renewal of agreement with poor health, and the amount not to exceed 2,936,138, to provide medical, mental, and ancillary health care services to individuals committed to their custody in the Garfield County Jail, and I'm not prepared to sign. Thank you. Any other discussion? All motion, all in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, we're going to come back to you. Okay. Yes, thank you. Your second of two action items this morning, this is Travis Elliott, who is the city manager for the town of Parish, who reached out to me and requested this. This request is to consider signing a letter of support for a CDOP grant for transit feasibility study. Benny Tomasulo, I think, is here to make that presentation with his team, it looks like. Hey, Fred. Hi. Good morning. Long time no see. Hey, Mr. Morse. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. I didn't know that you were still in the mountains. I am still here. Good to see you all. Good to see you. You work in a good place. Yes, I work for Northwest Boggs. All right. Good. And, I want to thank you all for changing the venue to accommodate us this morning. No, I really do want to thank you for getting us on the agenda as quick as you do. I know it's kind of short order. It's nice and I have to drive. Yeah, yeah. We are applying for this grant. We're going to try to submit it by the 11th, which is on Thursday. So, we appreciate you working with us on here. So, you have a briefing sheet in there and I prefer not to read it to you and I think you prefer me not to read it as well. But basically, we're going to apply for an FDA section 5304 statewide and non-metropolitan transportation plan grant. Basically, what we're looking to do is a feasibility study for this kind of western Colorado River region. We've got some kind of momentum going with now having gone to the downtown or at VIA. That combined with those round table discussions that we've been having through the EDP and then all of us have been involved in a lot of the discussions here lately. It's a one-year study and basically, the outcomes that we're hoping for is to understand the existing conditions and do a peer analysis, ridership and demand modeling, those types of things. Basically, we're just wanting to really bolster that, what I would call more of a local transportation, not really the, kind of the long, regional type of outlook, but we're really looking at this portion of the county. It's a $100,000 grant, 20% match. Northwest COG and RTCC have been kind enough to cover half of that cost combined. The rest of it is coming from the town of Parachute, $2,500, I believe, the town of Silt, the town of Rifle, and the EDP is contributing as well. So, we're not coming here with hand open other than place a letter in it, please, and thank you. We've already gotten a letter from the IMTPR, the EDP, a lot of support behind it, and we're hoping to, to count you as supporters and partners in it as well. Any questions? No, this is very timely in the, what's going on with transportation. We are looking at, no funding for RAFTA, Hogback, starting at 1st of December, so a whole month about funding, potentially, and without service. Yeah. And so, we'll see what happens there. We'll see how much chaos there is. We'll see what the public will is to fund transportation, so it's going to be interesting, and I think this is coming. Yeah, and we have an eye towards that. I mean, we've had discussions with you all regarding the impacts and some of that reduce funding on paths as well, and the truth is that that would create a sustainability issue for us, so we figured the time is now for us to kind of get on our horse and start riding in that direction, start understanding what funding is out there, what the needs are, and start to build kind of a local transportation model that would benefit this part of the county. Obviously, we don't have the reach to get out any further than that, otherwise, you know, we know there's a need of value as well, but we're going to kind of stay within our lane, no pun intended, I promise. So this will include silk to parachute? Yeah, primarily silk to parachute. Newcastle as well. Yeah, we talk about Newcastle, but you can't not, given its proximity to silk, right? Anything you do in silk is going to at least have some impact on Newcastle, but the primary objective is really the smaller communities. I mean, Newcastle's already a laughter member, so they kind of have coverage to some level, but it's really, it's the size. of Newcastle that we're focused on. Okay. Commissioner Wolf? This is excellent. It's time to get perfect. I'm full support. Mr. Sampson. Thank you for doing this. I mean, somebody had to step up, and I'm glad to see you got a coalition of everybody. Yeah. Well, not everybody, but a lot of people. Yeah. It's something that we've been tackling for decades, and if we don't do something, we're going to have a mess. Yep. Agreed. Well, this is on CDOT's radar. We've had conversations with them. Super. Hey, can we get some money for this? And they're like, yeah, we can definitely help you. So, I think this small region that doesn't really have anything of their own, even to get folks to resources within their own communities, this is something that we can tackle, and we can be flexible and nimble, it's identified in several plants that we have done at the COG as this is a prime region not only for transportation but also infrastructure. I'm really interested to see what comes of it all. Yeah. I think I know what it'll be, obviously, but, you know, you've got to have some facts and figures behind what you're doing because we're going to talk, it's going to be big money. We're going to need somebody to step up with some big money to do what you have. Yeah. No doubt that at the point that we have a lot of data and understanding and modeling will be before you again to present so that you all understand what came of it and how it impacts everybody in the region. Well, I don't think I could add, commissioners, I would say thanks to Travis as well. Travis, I think Aunt Benny, and maybe even Dana too have been working with or at least pulled in our bridge team and Ron Hanna on that side of the bridge and has an abattlement which is a key component to the constituency and the ridership down here so it's not as if they're hanging out as this anomaly. They're a big part of the community. They depend on that ridership. So that's, I just want to let the board know that those conversations have been happening. It's important. And we'll also probably look at Rubelson. I mean, part of the county too. So how are we, how are we looking at, you know, where does the county line end and then where does wrap the service begin what are we doing? Well, you can take a step further to do that. Yeah. That's true. That's true. Yeah. So Dana, are these three communities are they members of Northwest College? They are not members, paying members, but one of the programs I manage through our transportation program is our regional transit coordinating council and Garfield County is part of that and they are also part of the IMTBR. So by proxy. Jonathan is my co-worker. He was our regional grants navigator. I am our transportation mobility director. Right. I'm a one-person program so I do so much. So you're into Routt County, Summit County, Eagle County. Grand County. Grand as well. Lake, Pitkin. All right. Thank you. Any other discussion as we need a motion? I think everything sounds really positive and what you've been saying. So let's... Mr. Chairman, I move that we sign a letter of support for a CDOT planning grant for the transit feasibility study as presented to us without the chair to sign it. Very good. Any other discussion? I'll motion. All in favor? All right. Okay, we got it. There you go. Thank you all so much. Gentlemen, thank you for your support. We appreciate it. I look forward to getting this up steep. Thank you. Yeah, thanks for seeing me today. So the next thing is public hearing is for land use. So if Philip, Kelly, whoever is participating wants to move forward, we'll ask the applicant to come up to the table as well. you can bring additional chairs up if you need additional chairs. Yeah, you can move as many chairs up here as you want. So that is fine. This is a public hearing, Kelly? Yes. So ask for notification before or after I swear. I prefer to swear to them in verse. Okay. So with that, this is a public hearing. So everybody that's been testifying needs to raise their right hands unless they're a counselor or a lawyer and promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So help me God. Okay. Thank you. And Philip, let's go ahead and let your applicants introduce themselves. My name is Taylor Valentine. I'm a River City Consultant. River City Consultant. I'm Dylan Foster. Ed Seymour. I work QBRG. All right. With that, we're to you. Let's go ahead. There's two notice here. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I need to go back and ask. Is there is public notice in this? Is this adequate? Do you, Kelly? Is this adequate? We did miss one of the QB Energy and I think they'll explain their reasoning. Okay. So that you guys have to decide if it's constructive. Okay. So with that, we're to the applicant. We missed one application. QB Energy. So Ed, who wants to address that? Are you aware of it? Ed? Help me off. We didn't notify QB Energy? Correct. So since the property is still owned under I think Karis, it just comes up weird because how ownership works and so since y'all aren't QB Energy. Yeah. I do know there were some questions with the accessories office and there is still the need for a corrective deed from the transaction between Karis and QB that occurred almost two years ago and for that reason the county assessor has not updated their records but the track of land in question where this application exists, the deed is clear that that did transfer and that is of record with the county card's office. so I don't think there's any legal ownership issue. It's just simply the confusion by the county clerk's records right now saying one thing and the county assessor's records say another thing because the county assessor is simply waiting for that corrective deed which is taking a little bit of time because of the number of parties involved and just kind of getting that done. But we hope to get that done here in the next couple of months. Okay gentlemen do you want to is that sufficient? Do you want to accept notice? Or yeah notification? I think the problem is QB and he's here so he knows about it. It's more square. Yeah I mean QB makes sense if QB wouldn't be sitting there themselves that I noticed. Okay I guess we're good with that let's go ahead and receive Philip here to you. Are you all going to do any presentations today? Yes. Okay so I would like to enter into exhibits apologize I believe it's exhibit 1 through 13 sharing screen Yeah okay so I have 1 through 12 Okay so 1 through 13 including the applicants applicants will be the applicants exhibit will be item number 13 Thank you Sorry I didn't actually I don't know if you have a staff I didn't stop Yes Alright I am live on the screen behind you Okay We're going to want to maybe move a little bit so we can see what we have on this screen someone's computer is on is it yours Is it yours? No There you go There you go Okay we're going to let you go ahead go ahead I'm going to just kind of stand here so I can see the presentation Thank you Mr. Chairman Today we're here for the Jackrabbit gravel authority This application is QB Energy is applying for for a limited impact land exchange for metal gravel operations in the resource land plaza zone district project site is approximately 16 acres in size it's on a parcel that is over 26,000 acres in size the subject site is located north of where we are parachutes today about 13 miles from sorry oh it's all my notes are not appearing so it's about 13 miles north of the town parachute county road 215 you would take that north from parachute and then you would turn west onto QB's private road system and that would take you up to this subject site which is located in a very interesting plateau area this is just an aerial image the subject side is highlighted here in red just giving you an idea for what this kind of looks like as you can see there's other gas pads that are located in this area I'm sorry. That'll work for mine. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So hopefully on Zoom they can still hear us. As long as we're not going to feedback ourselves, that would be great. Subjects located are shown here in red. As you can see a little driveway coming in from the north to the subject site itself. This is just a close-up aerial of the subject site pad. So this pad was originally permitted under a COGCC, now EC MC, permit back in 2018. I believe that's predated to our oil and gas regulations. In 2023, QB Energy abandoned those permits without developing the actual wells themselves. But they had already produced this pad on the site. So they had already done the grading. They had already done the construction necessary for this pad. So what they're wanting to do now is to basically come in, mine the pads materials out and use those as substrate on their roads and other pads throughout this property and their other well and gas properties throughout Garfield County. Since they might be taking some of these materials, which were native materials off of the subject parcel to serve other projects. That is what's triggering our gravel operations definition and requirement for a permit in this situation. So are those materials natural materials or those materials that were put onto the pad? My understanding is that they were natural materials that were taken from the site. Using great pad. Yeah, actually get gravel. So that's, had a lot of discussions during the pre-applic ation period to try to make that determination of the appropriate permit process for the county. Those were a lot of very important questions that I'm glad you're asking again. This is just, this is a site plan that comes from their stormwater management plan. It just really demonstrates pretty well the existing cont ours that are on site. As you can see, the pad itself is, is flat. The area to the north of the pad is also kind of a flat plateau area. And then as you come to the south and to the east and to the west, you start dropping off pretty quickly down this hillside. We'll talk more about some of the stormwater management features in a bit. But so they're going to end up doing this mining in two phases. So this far area here will be phase one. And then as they complete that and do some, a little bit of reclamation and just basically securing the site a little bit. They'll move on to doing mining from this, this little western, sorry, the more northern area. The left is north on this map, I apologize. We'll be phase two of the gravel operation itself. Once they complete all operations, all of the pad area will be reclaimed. And this access drive itself will also be reclaimed. The red area was the area of disturbance for the previous ECMC permitting and now for this permit itself. They are permitted through DRMS as well. These are the referral agencies who provided me with responses to our referral requests. Chris Hale, our consulting engineer, provided us with some comments that we'll be discussing as recommended conditions of approval as well as Ted White from Garfield County Public Health. CPW provided us with some comments as well regarding wildlife mitigation and high priority habitat that is in the area. Vegetation management, Rodent Bridge, and the Sheriff's Office all provided me with essentially saying they had no issues with the application. And we did refer to DRMS, CPPHE, and some other state agencies, but didn't receive any referral comments from those agencies. No public comments have been received to date. This is a site overview for the project itself. Access will be taken from QB's private roads, which do lead to County Road 215. This access driveway itself comes in from those existing oil and gas roads. The applicant is proposing to use water as their primary means of dust suppression on the site and during the operations. Water will be supplied from their existing water rights that they hold. They provided the information from Water Court Case Number 2010 CW175 regarding the rights that they have to use in the water rights that they have to use in the water rights that they have to use. They are also requesting a waiver from the typical submitt al requirements and standards related to water supply in our code. This use is proposed to be an interim use. They will not be mining five days a week, seven to five for the next 20 years. They will be going to the site and mining materials when they are needed for their other projects. They might be coming to the site, spending a couple of days there stockpiling materials, and then hauling those materials off as they are needed. So they're not going, they're not, the applicant is asking for a waiver from our typical water supply, that they are not going to need a permanent supply of water on this specific site itself. Instead, they are asking to be able to haul water to the site through their water rights for dust suppression, and they are going to have their crews haul their own pot able water onto the site. Garco County Public Health, because of some of the uncertainty related to this interim use that is going to be used, requested essentially some more information on the number of crews that will be present, the number of hours they will be working for full review of this waiver request. So we are recommending a conditional approval to basically ask for some additional information, basically get to how many gallons of water are exploited, each worker going to be required to bring to the site for their own uses, and making sure we have the water rights now for the dust suppression. But Garco County Public Health is also asking, or recommending that they provide us with a secondary means of dust suppression, if current drought conditions or something similar, reduce the actual supply of physical water, and, you know, so they would like to have a secondary source of dust suppression in that situation. Wastewater management, the applicant is also requesting a waiver from these typical submittal requirements and our standards related to them. Kind of in a similar situation, due to some of the uncertainty with the intermittent use, Garco County Public Health, their referral comments was requesting additional information on the amount of personnel, and how long they will be on site. We're recommending a conditional approval that supports Gar co County Public Health's comments, and ask for essentially a will serve letter of portable toilets, or some additional information on how wastewater will be managed. These crews, when they are on site, may be on site for eight hours a day, and so there might be a need for wastewater management solutions, or Bolton Hall, or portable toilets, or something similar, to manage waste in those situations. Access and traffic, as I mentioned earlier, this site is eventually accessed from County Road 215 via Q B's private road systems that services their oil and gas facilities, and some of their leasee oil and gas facilities as well. The driveway accesses those. The consulting engineers requested some additional information to verify and support a waiver from our 7107 standards. I received that letter from Dylan and Taylor this morning, and so it is currently under review. I glanced at it while we're waiting for this hearing to start, and so we'll be reviewing that. So at this time, I'd still recommend that condition be in place until we can finalize our review of some of the physical characteristics of this access drive there. 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But after the 20 years and the reclamation is in place, we will end up with a site that is more in fitting with the surrounding range lands and native habitats than what is currently on site. This is essentially the landscape plan, which is just demonstrating the reclamation. As you can see, they'll be doing some revegetation within those areas of disturbance. The slopes here will end up being about one to six, which is matching the neighboring hillsides to the south and west and east. The DRMS permit already has security associated with it. So vegetation management was now requesting additional security be provided to the county for this project. This site is in a remote location. We'll provide QB energy with local materials for their local road and pad projects. This is going to help them minimize haul trips on the county road systems, specifically CR 215. And that will help minimize impacts on Garfield County residents. The applicant will have to maintain dust suppression and other mitigation strategies to avoid any offsite nuis ances. And they represented that they were going to do that in their application. They have provided extensive engineering related to hazard mitigation, the mining and reclamation. And with the recommended conditions of approval, staff recommends that the Board County Commission approve this application. Provided some recommended findings in my staff report and recommended conditions approval one through eight. Ed did mention, and I apologize, I forgot to include this in my conditions of approval, but we did want to see that that correction deed be recorded prior to us finalizing our permit. And so that's something that we can work with timing on. But we would recommend a condition of approval that prior to the issuance of the land exchange permit, that that correction deed or other legal instrument be recorded showing the legal ownership of this parcel. Okay, so that would be number nine. And that concludes my presentation. Okay. Okay. Are you guys going to be on the screen too? If you're able to pull the floor. Yeah. Let's get up here first. Thank you. Okay. Any questions for Philip? Okay. What's the elevation? Are we at 8,000 feet? Yes. We are at 8,000 feet. All right. Will the, I don't think it will, but will the, will the, will this get down to groundwater? Will there be a pond up there? No. Okay. All right. Other questions? Is it closest stream to west parachute? Yes. And how far is that from the gravel trail? I'd say approximately a mile. Yeah, a mile. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Let's turn it over to the applicant then. There's not any other questions. Thank you, Philip. So you will probably have to get back up again if you want to do a presentation. I just have. How'd you come up with the name Jackrabbit? There's no Jackrabbits up there, right? They're all in Eastern, Eastern Colorado. I saw one of the Jackrabbits. There you go. He's done a lot of them. The general vicinity of Jackrabbit bridge and Jackrabbit compressor station. All right. So that's. Good name. Staying in tune with it. Yeah. Yeah. So we didn't want to get too creative. Absolutely. So sure. Thank you. Thanks, Taya. Okay. So my name is Taylor Valentine. I'm with River City Consultants. We just have a few things we'd like to touch on. Philip did a really good job going over everything. So I'll try not to be too redundant. So. I'll try not to be too redundant. So. So. I clicked on it. So maybe that one, yeah. So. I clicked on it. So maybe that one, yeah. So as Philip mentioned, this is located on an existing oil and gas well pad. Um. The site has already been graded and disturbed and includes an existing access road that was designed to support industrial use. Um. So rather than developing a new quarry on undisturbed land, the project proposes to make beneficial use of material already present on site for road maintenance and new infrastructure. Um. So I guess a key point we want to hit is that it's remains within the existing disturbed footprint and no expansion beyond that footprint is proposed. Um. So I guess a key point we want to hit is that it's remains within the existing disturbed footprint and no expansion beyond that footprint is proposed. Um. So I guess a key point we want to hit is that it remains within the existing disturbed footprint and no expansion beyond that footprint is proposed. Um. Existing conditions, um. As you can see the well pad and the access road are already constructed on site and have been functioning as an industrial use for several years. The proposed operation remains entirely within this disturbed area. The existing access road will continue to be used. Um. Stormwater controls will remain in place throughout the entire town. And no new disturbance areas are proposed. Um. Operations will be intermittent and demand driven rather than continuous. Material will be removed as needed for road maintenance and future infrastructure projects in the area. The equipment on site will consist of mobile equipment such as loaders, excavators, screens, and crushers. No permanent structures are proposed. No utilities are being installed and no blasting will occur . Material can be screened and crushed on site before being loaded into trucks within the active phase area. Overall this is a relatively simple operation focused on utilizing material that already exists on site. Um. So. QB Energy, they do coordinate regularly with CPW on projects throughout the area. Um. And they have developed that wildlife mitigation plan through the helps of CPW. Um. This wildlife mitigation plan was also put through with the DRMS permit. Um. So a lot of these measures have already been taken into consideration such as employee education, proper waste management, limiting disturbance, and seasonal wildlife protection measures. So, um. Site services and operations. Um. The project will operate with a limited workforce and no permanent facilities. We're currently working on getting a will serve letter from the portalet company to have portable sanitation facilities on site. Um. For potable drinking water, we're going to follow OSHA standards to provide the potable water for the employees. Um. Because of the limited and intermittent nature of the operation, there'll be no permanent water or wastewater infrastructure on site. Um. The operation services are consistent with temporary nature of the project. Um. So just to summarize everything, um. There's going to be no new disturbances. We rely on an existing access road, existing stormwater controls, and material already present on site. 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I think QB Energy working with KC, they can probably work it out pretty quickly if it's as clean as they're saying. Comfortable with that? It seems we have to be. So we'll see. Stay on it. Get it done. All right. Gentlemen, any other questions? There will be nine conditions that will be. Yeah, nine conditions will be prior to issues of the permit . Correction. The deed title. QB Energy. Energy, okay. All right. Any other questions? Hearing none, I'd like to ask for a motion to close the public hearing. So moved. Second. Can you call the motion all in favor? Aye. Okay. With that, it's decision time, gentlemen. It's pretty straightforward. A little bit of a, you know, a little bit on the title, but it's pretty on and straightforward. It's a benefit of our community. It's a benefit that we're not hauling gravel up from the valley of Florida, 8,000 feet. And, you know, just, I think we should move forward with approval, but it's up to all three of us to get there. Okay. I'm sure I move that we, the board approve the proposal as presented with the recommended findings of 1 through 5 and the recommended conditions of approval of 1 through 8, or 1 through 9. 9 being the prior issues of the permit at the time of the N QB Energy Emership. Okay. Second the motion. Okay. Any other discussion? I'll call the motion. All in favor? Aye. Aye. You guys got it? Thank you very much. Thank you. I got you out of here. I'll show you a little bit of time. Okay. With that, it's, uh, you guys good or you want to take a good? Okay. Let's take a five minute break and then we'll come back to the . Okay. Okay. We're back in session. And, uh, first thing on our, our agenda, next thing on our agenda is the county attorney's update. Uh, Graham, I don't have much for, uh, we have a request from executive session, uh, to read that. 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Remember, we're combining, this year we're going to combine , uh, the revenue presentation with the budget kickoff together. Okay. That's right. Combining that. We have visitors. All right. Come on in guys. We've got an audience. We've got some public comments. Yeah. Good question, commissioner. Does everyone understand that? Well, so that's July 14th. Yeah. When we're talking about that. July 14th. And we still have, we still have a work session on the 7th. That's correct. Okay. Yep. Uh, but thank you. Um, and so that, you know, that's one of your policy direct ives for 2026 December. I think it's off to a good start. The second one I wanted to share with you is we have narrow ed the cap property liability insurance broker selection effort. Also, uh, a policy directive of this board. And we're down to really a total of four. We had a very strong response on the R&D for broker, excellent. And we're down to really a total of four. We had a very strong response on the R&D for broker, excellent. And we're down to a total of four. And we're down to a total of four. And we're down to a total of four. And we're down to a total of four. We had a very strong response on the R&D for broker, excellent. Selection, honestly, is very good. Really strong. And, um, anywhere from local to global in terms of companies who have very strong interest with that. Right. Your reaction was the same as mine. Yeah. But it's, but it's really fantastic. And it, and it crosses all of the areas of insurance we need it to. That's including the airport, uh, other catastrophic types of levels of coverage, um, then the services they would provide to us as we navigate claims, uh, work on loss prevention to minimize claims. All of those things are really important. So basically property and liability for all operations in the county. Yes, sir. Okay. Yes, sir. So we're just, uh, I think we have a lot of other things that are part of this. So, uh, we are having interviews now, we're running that part. And, uh, this Friday we'll have the first three with the fourth one sort of hanging out there. But we're moving on as quickly as we can, because that will also inform your budget decision. And it's important to know too, while we have CTSI, we're still part of the cap pool. We are working diligently to make sure that we have the ability to exit should the board want to. And so those are important in terms of filing notices with CTSI so that we remain, number one, with the board wants to stay that has the luxury to jett ison if you want to knowing what these other brokers bring to the table. So I want you to know that. When is Lori, is it August when Lori will be getting in front of us with benefits? Yes. And also, um, health insurance. Health insurance, but also asking us for where we are on employee pay raises. Yes. There will be a total compensation meeting. Total compensation meeting. Right. So, no, that's what it is. So you'll have, uh, suggestion on merit, potential suggestion on equity, you'll have mental insurance, uh, sweep options there, and then, um, pay increases. That's going to be a tough, um, meeting. Okay. That's coming. And that's normally when it was a big, a meeting with big decisions. Those will be big decisions. Those will be important decisions. Um, so that's where that is. Uh, in terms of calendar, of course, tomorrow you do have your regular work session that was pushed from the second. Uh, I want to let you know of the, of the, um, agenda, the update regarding information of the child care district. Um, they have asked us to push that a month. Right. They are not prepared or they just can't do it. There's a path up for them. So you are now down to three, which is a, a department of human services update on congregate meals and home delivered meals. For the Eastern end of the camp. That's correct. Thank you. Yes. Just from, uh, uh, or, uh, Springs East. That's your first up. And that's really a DHS. Uh, conversation. Uh, of course we have the vendors part of that. For the home delivery. Then we have a discussion on a flat print that Rob is going to bring to you with Chris or Scott Marsh on the opportunity to, to, to receive some federal state dollars, federal dollars, I think. And that's a great question. Um, and I think that's a great question. and I think it's a good, good work session tomorrow. That's a 9:00 a.m. start. So, we'll be back in the next slide. So, I'm going to move on to the next slide. And the board's in the next slide. And we'll be back in the next slide. And we'll have a discussion on a flat grant that Rob is going to bring to you with Scott Marsh, on the opportunity to receive some federal, state dollars, and corrections their annual report. Great. So, that's a good work session tomorrow. That's a 9:00 a.m. start. So, I'm sure everybody knows that. Thursday, this Thursday, June 11th, there is what's known as the Colorado Fire Commission meeting, 9:00 to 3:00 p.m. 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. That's the Grand Valley Station here in Parachute. And I think, Christian Will said he had some interesting going on there. Yeah, I'm sure Will's going to be there. Yeah. Okay, very good. Maybe I can mark you that word. Yeah. I agree. I agree. Sunday, June 14th, that's the Garfield County Community Corrections. I don't even want to know about this. Community Corrections 2026 Reunion Picnic, 1:00 to 4:00 p.m. It's the first of its kind. I appreciate Travis doing this. It's a very exciting ride. This is at the Community Corrections facility that we have here in Wainville, just next to those share's hands. Monday, June 15th. That is a regular board meeting, whoever this is at 8:00 a. m. start with CDOT. That goes to 10:00 a.m. I have invited all the jurisdictions. Is that considered a work session? 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m.? Yes. It's ours. 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I did have a question for Rob from the Fair Board meeting. Is it? Second or whatever. Was there a discussion about the 150th anniversary and the 250th national anniversary for the fair? Not specific. There wasn't. Okay. I know the whole thing around the fair is the 250th. Right. 150th. What is that? What is the motto? 150th anniversary. What is the motto of the fair? Red, white, and blue. A fair for you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. I know they would want to do something on the midway. Maybe need some financial help for the 150th anniversary. Yeah. Rob, do you want to announce who the headliners are for the concert? We just got the contracts. I'm working with Ronell for the PR plan. Okay. I've seen it. I've seen it in, it's publicized somewhere. I saw it. Only those who got a draft of the fair book. Okay. Should have been very limited. All right. That's where I saw it. Thank you for asking it. Okay. I can't remember who you said. Nobody can remember who I said. That's right. 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Okay, we're officially on the air. Welcome, everybody, to the Board of County Commissioners' meeting for June 1st. Very seldom do we have a board date of June 1st of the month, so this might be a first of the first. Okay, with that, let's start with a roll call. Good morning, Commissioner Will. Present. Jeremy Jankowski. Present. Commissioner Sampson. Here. You all join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Then if you'd join me in a moment of silence in your own way. Okay, thank you so much. Thank you. Okay. So, first thing on our agenda is public comments from citizens not on the agenda. Mr. Martin? Do you have anybody else? You two? No? You're on the agenda. Okay, good. Okay. Good to see you on the other side of the diet. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. John Martin, citizen of Garfield County. If you can believe that, I'm still here. All right. It's such an honor to be in front of an illustrious group. Ladies, I don't know how you do it, but you're great. Well, today is an easy one because today I'm going to let you know that you're on the threshold of greatness. All three of you. You have a golden opportunity to close a chapter on something that's been going on for at least 12 years. That happens to be the Shoshone Power Water Diversion. You're short $1,700,000. You have met the goal. You got a lot of partners. We have fought the Eastern Front because they wanted to control the Colorado River. And I had a discussion or two along the way about that. So today you can step up and be the leaders that will go down in history that had the vision of taking something and making it a great thing for Western Colorado and the Colorado River Basin. You can save the Colorado River and a lot of diversions. Dig deep. Don't wait for any more partners. Because if you wait too long, Denver is going to step in. And that's what scares me. $1,700,000 out of the Energy Mitigation Fund can put this to rest and you guys can go down as some of the most, should we say, visionaries knowing that the future of Colorado River Basin and the water for the Western Slope is secure. Please consider it. Don't wait. Make it happen now. Work with Andy Mueller River District and you guys can make this package a done deal. And it is a wonderful thing for the Western Slope. Please consider it. Thank you. Thank you, John. I'm interested to know that as you began to speak, Andy Mueller walked in the room. Andy, get up here. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning, Commissioners. Andy Mueller with the Colorado River District. I happen to run into former Commissioner Martin at the grocery store checkout line. We work 24 hours a day. We don't stop. Yeah. 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I think we made a comment just now. Perry? Yeah, I'm good with that. I definitely wouldn't want something to happen to Soshone over 1.7, trust me. Yeah. Yeah. And if that means fronting the money to other partners, I'm good with that. Okay. We'll be watching. We'll definitely take this as direction to keep working with some other partners. And we do have some in the wings here, so we're pushing. And I just need to keep running into John at the grocery store. We'll each have a can in our hands and figure it out. Well, I think Andy's been pushing a lot, but I'm afraid sometimes his push goes unheard with some of the other partners. And it may be some time before those partners commit to it. So that's why I'm looking at you guys and saying we really need to get this deal finalized in the books. Okay. Well, thank you so much. So Andy and John, for us to make an official commitment, this has to be an agenda item. Yes. This is public comment. You heard direction from us. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Okay, come back and see us more often. I'll hold that for money. Okay, elected officials, Jackie, you're up. I want to talk about the 2026 primary election, which is right in front of us within a month. 30 days away. Yes. Another one of those things being on a meeting on June 1st. It's authentic, isn't it? Yeah. All right. Well, there's not a lot of new information, and that's a good thing with the way Garfield County conducts our elections, and I'm grateful for that. We're 30 days away from the election. We will mail ballots on June 9th. We're going to mail a little over 38,000 this election. Just reminding the voters that we have been fortunate. We have six ballot drop boxes at each municipality within the county and one right out front. In front of the courthouse. Where they're located is on our website. Voters can go on and check that out. We have a ballot drop box for those that would like right inside the courthouse. Courthouse hours. We will open our ballot boxes on June 10th. So they'll be ready. Probably open before the ballots get to you, but we're ready. And then they'll be closed promptly at 7 o'clock on June 30 th. If the voter does choose to return their ballot by mail, it 's one stamp. Postmarks do not count. They need to be in our office, and we do everything we can to have them. We're at the post office at 7. We're down in Grand Junction at the big facility at 7 to receive any ballots. So we do our best to help the voter get it, but I highly recommend our useful ballot drop boxes throughout the county. And if you happen to be across the state, you can drop them at any other facility, and they'll get them over to us. Let's see. If you have not received your ballot by June 19th, go on to GoVoteColorado.gov and see why that's happened, if your address is not correct. If not, go ahead and change it in there, and we'll mail out a ballot. The last day we can mail a ballot is June 22nd. Or call the election team, of course, and they'll assist you to get that ballot. June 22nd, we open up our vote centers. Two early vote centers, June 22nd through the 29th, from 8. 30 to 5, Monday through Friday, and Saturday voting. Who wants to do that on a Saturday? But it's a thing. From 10 to 2, and thankfully no early voting on Sunday. Our two early vote centers continue to remain the same, the community center and the fairground South Hall. Very accommodating, centrally located for our voters. And then election day, June 30th, we'll open two more vote centers. So Garfield County has four vote centers. One at Carbondale Town Hall, one at the community center, the rifle fairgrounds, and the parachute town hall from 7 to 7. And I just got to say a shout out. Our municipalities, Carbondale and Parachute, are so kind and welcoming for us on election day. We come with the force, as you've all seen me many times. We're always here. Sample ballots are available on GoVoteColorado.gov, and it 's particular to who the voter is. So you put in your address and your date, and it gives you your sample ballot. So you're not looking through all 10 of them. You'll see your ballot. The Garfield County communications team will post the first unofficial election results a little after 7 o'clock on the county website. And then a final unofficial website, a final unofficial result that evening between 9 and 10. And then if we have to, we'll post again on Wednesday, July 1st. Final election results will be after Canvas. We have not set that date yet, but it will be on or before July 22nd. And if voters have any questions, of course, call us, call me, or check our website out for the most current and up-to -date information. And that's what we have. Good. Any questions, comments? I was just going to say, how many questions or ballot proposals, amendment, whatever, are there for state? Well... Is it quite a lengthy... That's November. Yeah. November is quite lengthy, yes. We're looking ahead. We're currently at five... Five. ...on there already. And then we do have quite a few municipalities and schools that have said they are considering participating. So it looks like a very busy November election. Big, big, big. Yeah. Yeah. Busy is... Yeah. Big is it? You said you're paying out $38,000? A little over. Yeah. What's been the return on that? Well, it's an interesting election because there's a lot of involvement within our community. So I, you know, normally our primaries tend to be a little quieter, but I kind of see a change in that for this election. A little more, I would hope, 70% plus. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Keep up the good work. Thank you. Thank you guys and your support. Have a good summer. Thanks, Jamie. See you at election time. Okay. Next thing on our agenda, we have a request to set boundaries for a neighborhood needs survey. Set the public hearing date for an application for a permitted malt beverage and wine retail liquor license for El Supersito, LLC. Doing business as El Supersito, located at 5308 County Road 154. And this is not a public hearing. This is just setting boundaries and a date. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Yes. So at the end here, you can either make one motion to set the boundaries and then one motion to set the date, or you can one motion to do the whole thing. Yeah. El Supersito is applying for the fermented malt beverage and wine liquor license, which is the off-premises liquor license for that address. And they are requesting that the public hearing date be set as Monday, July 13, 2026. We've provided you with some maps. We keep trying to come up with the best way to give you maps because it's hard to get zoomed in enough for you to see details, but zoomed out enough to see the area. And then we're going to go to the other side of the road. 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It changes with each. It depends on the situation. Yeah, it changes with each one. I mean, like one like Elk Creek, we had to set them a little bit further, right? Because there's like not a whole lot of houses in that area or a whole lot of businesses. This one is pretty condensed in this area. So there's a lot of houses and businesses located within that little zone. And you'll notice that in that options that we've provided you, that I state that we can then filter it down. We filter it down because even you gentlemen own property. You know, Garfield County itself owns property within this zone. Right. So it would be kind of a hit or miss on, you know, who she contacts. She doesn't contact people that there's no house, there's no business located on the property. She wouldn't necessarily need to go door-to-door on that property. I look at this in option three. I think there's some positive things to have to go into the trailer parks. Because it's just, you know, it's kind of going door-to- door, letting people know what's going to happen. And I think that's where the clientele will be. Yeah, I agree. Option two is way too much. I mean, going into Iron Breaks, you know, take a lot of people to canvas that. Do you want to transfer it for her? I'm going to ask you that you probably would suggest, recommend that we go with option three. I'm thinking. Option three is very similar to, I guess, the boundaries that we set for the garage, which is less than half a mile. So the garage actually ends up in that, like, same boundary . So she could go in there and ask them if they're for it or against it. But she hasn't had any issues currently as of, like, setting up that market or any concerns from any neighbors as of yet. You want to translate that? You got it all right. You got it all right. Option number three. Okay. That would be a better option. Okay. Yeah. And so it says 96 parcels, but obviously within that, the mobile home parks, there's more houses. Yeah. Like, that's all one parcel, so. Yeah. Right. But out of those 96 parcels, as you mentioned, some of them are businesses. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Not residents. And so she can go to the businesses if they're willing to say yes or no. Right. That's fine. I know that with the garage, they had difficulties getting people that were, at the time they were home, or they just missed that. So we are trying to work with that, trying to better it and make it to where we'll have a Spanish version and an English version. And hopefully that'll help with the getting signatures in that area. I think it's just a hit or miss what time you go there. Does Nepalese restaurant have a wine and beer license? Yep. Okay. They have a, yeah, they have a hotel and restaurant the same as, like, similar to the Sunlight. And how about Thunder River? Thunder River does not have a license because it's too, it 's right next door. It's connected to Rhino. To Rhino. Yeah. So they wouldn't be able to sell. Okay. Shelley, what was the suggested public hearing date? June. It is July 13th. July 13th. July 13th. June 13th. Okay. You ready for a motion, Mr. Chairman? Yes, I am. Mr. Chairman, I move that we set the boundaries-- Good, shall I? Yes. Yep. --set the boundaries for the neighborhood needs survey using option three that has been presented to us and set the public hearing date for this on July 13th, 2026. Very good. Okay. Any other discussion? Anything from the applicants? You good with that? Yes, I do. Yes, I do. Okay. All right. With that, I'll call a motion on the waiver. Aye. Aye. Okay. We'll see you on the 13th at 8 AM. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you. Put on your walking shoes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. That's the last one. Thank you. Eric McCanvas. That's right. Didn't do that, Barry. Nothing. Consent agenda is next on our item. Next item on our agenda. We have a motion to approve consent agenda items one through seven. Mr. Chair, I would move that we approve consent agenda items to approve consent agenda items. One, two, seven. Second. Any other discussion? Call the motion. All in favor? Aye. Aye. With that, Mr. Jarman, we're to you. Yes, sir. Thank you, and good morning. Happy June 1st. Three action items this morning, two of them are related, number one and two, but I'll introduce the first one, and then I'll take the seat up at the table for the second -- or for both of them. The first one is consideration and approval--for approval-- of a budget supplement in the amount of $50,000 and then the second one is going to be a vote for the second one. And I'll do that. And I'll do that. Thank you, Mr. Chair, I'm going to be a little bit more of a vote for the second one. And I'll take that one. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I'll be going to be a vote for the second one. And I'll be going to be a vote for the second one, and I'll be going to be a vote for the second one. And I'll be here to the second one. And I'll be here to the second one. And I'll be here to the second one. Thank you. And I'll be here to the second one. So I'll be here to the second one. And I'll be here to the second one. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Okay. Give this a rundown on the staffing analysis. Yeah, you bet. Well, thank you. So back in February, the Board of County Commissioners adopted your policy of directives and your objectives, as you do every year. And as part of that, you had commissioned this effort by way of the County Manager's Office to do this staffing or workforce analysis. In terms of history, I'd let the Board know that about 10 years or a little over 10 years ago, then Diane Hayes was still here, actually, as your Human Resources Director. We also did the same thing. But it's been over a decade or about a decade since this organization has done it. And so it's due. These are timely. A good organization will do this about every 7 to 10 years. is the way I look at this. It's also very opportune because you just finished your classification and compensation study, which is really good information that feeds this effort. In the end, what this does is help the county evaluate our staffing levels, our workload, our efficiencies, our opportunities to still serve the citizens at a level of service that is important to the commission ers. And so it also helps us understand in an objective way how we look at succession planning, building our teams, building our different departments, employee retention. Those kinds of things are all components to this. And, again, it's just a very healthy thing to do. It is often in business they say, "If you don't know your numbers, you don't know your business." And that's the same thing here. This is just one other tool that's commonly used to evaluate how we do what we do in an objective way. And so in doing that, based on the board's direction to us, we went out to the marketplace and competed in a scope of services and had a very strong response. And I'm going to stop there and turn it over to Kim and Lori, who've got a really good feel for it. I'll just one question first. This is for the entire county. Does this include elected officials? Yes, it does. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Fred, you said it's been 10 years? Yes. What's the staffing level change with FTEs and all that? Well, the short answer to that is we've grown. Right. Not by much. Not by much. I would say it's anywhere from -- well, I would be hard-pressed to guess right now. I don't want to give you a number. But we certainly have grown since then, and it varies department to department. And that's important. I'm glad you asked that question, Commissioner, because what this will help us do is, it will give you an objective view department by department and office by office to see where you are. It's not just one big picture, although you will end up with that. But it tends to be a very focused and nimble look at how we calibrate the services that the county offers with the resources we have. And, of course, that's people. You know, we're in the service business, and services don't deliver themselves. The people have to do that. And all of that, of course, takes resources to fund those folks, which is why a service organization generally is a high employee organization versus something else. So that's what you're looking at. Hopefully that answers a little bit of your question. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. Lori, Kim? Have the floor. Sure. I can start. So, as Fred mentioned, we posted an RFP, and we received 11 responses. So a good turnout. And with the two highest scoring offers, we had interviews. And we're jumping forward one. Are we jumping forward? We're still on the supplement, which is the-- I mean-- We're still doing the supplement. Oh, okay. We'll get there. Okay. We'll get to you on the next item, which is-- Sorry, Lori. That's all right. So, Lori, to you, this is on budgets-- Well, really, this is to Fred. Yeah. This is a budget supplement for $50,000, too, so we can get to item number two on our action items. That's right. So-- And if I could, just to remind the board, as we went through the 2026 budget effort, the board felt that this was important anew that you were going to look at doing this, but did not accommodate the budget side of it yet until we brought it to you. And that was by design of the board. We gave direction primarily through the budget cycle. That's right. Okay. Yes. So with that, I have to ask you, do we want to approve a budget supplement of $50,000, which would come from the general fund, for a staffing analysis? I think we should, and I'll tell you one of the reasons I think we should is--it's come to my attention, and I'm sure you other two are aware of-- the cost of medical insurance could rise 20%-- --to the budget budget budget. And I'm sure you other two are aware of-- the cost of medical insurance could rise 20%-- --to our health insurance. And I just--it makes me mad, but what are you going to do about it? We can't control that. So I think it's very important for us to have this supplement passed to look at our staffing because we're getting in a tight squeeze with this-- Oh, we will. --health insurance continually, you know. I mean, if it goes at what, 25% this year and 25% next, it just really is-- --and I'm proud to say for 16 years we kept it that we paid the insurance premiums for all of our employees, for all the family. And we finally had to change that. And I didn't like it, but as we all know, it was unsustain able. And I just--I don't like it that it's going to be on the backs of our employees again if they have to increase the amount of money out of their pocket for health insurance, 25%. And what do you do? I mean, we give--we give them raises, but it's all ate up by the raise we give them and inflation--I mean, it's--I don't need to explain it. You get it. But I just think one of the things that we can do is to authorize this and see what they come back with and what are we going to do? To try and alleviate this as best we can, but between a rock and a hard place. Okay. Commissioner Will? Yeah, I'll go ahead and make the motion. I think it's important. Okay. I just--I'll state one thing as well, and that is we froze 35 positions. I think we have--we're probably--probably 10 of those positions are back. You know, we've approved 10 of them. But, you know, this will be a good look at do we need those positions or not as we move forward. So with that, a motion, Mr. Reilly. Mr. Chair, I'd move that we approve the budget supplement in the amount of $50,000 to complete the staffing analysis. Second. Okay. Any more discussion? You guys are good. Okay. I call a motion. All in favor? Aye. Okay. Okay. So we got that. Now we can get to Kim. Yeah. Thank you. Go ahead. Thank you. So we received 11 proposals. MGT Impact Solutions was found to provide the best value to Cartfield County. So we're asking you to discuss and either approve or disapp rove the award of a contract to MGT Impact Solutions, LLC, or approve the contract in an amount not to exceed $45,954, and that's for the workforce analysis, and then authorize signature of the contract if approved. And is MGT a Colorado company? They're nationwide. Nationwide. Yeah. Okay. We also already work with them when I describe that, so they know who Garfield County is. Yes. We work with them on our cost allocation contract. Which is where it's called? Yeah. And Jamaican may have more information on that as it's kind of held in finance, but they go through and they basically put a value to the work that the county does in each department. So, you know, how much time it takes to, for procurement, you know, what a purchase order costs at the end of the day . Right. They put a value to that. And you might have more to add. Costing analysis. Well, it is. It's similar, like, sort of the legal cost that we incur and helps us understand that with Department of Human Resources, or Human Services. Did I say that correct? So, every year they help us calibrate what those internal costs back to each individual department are, which is really important as we look at those, because we all have value. Correct. Yes. So, they know us as my point commissioners. They do know who Garfield County is. We've had a very good relationship with them. 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And we're encouraged by the response we have. And we're encouraged by the response we have. And we're encouraged by the response we have. And Jamaica Watts, your finance director, who typically presents us, is here. Thanks. Commissioner, this is-- Commissioners, this is the first step in the distribution of the funds that we've received from the National Forest Reserves. The county has receded in $298,763.87. That's split between Title I, which is $276,031.84, and Title III, which is $22,732.03. Title III funds are for emergency management purposes at the Sheriff's Office. And we're not going to talk about those today, but we are going to talk about the Title I. The law requires us to split that, at least 25% of that, to the school districts based on pupil count. We can elect to distribute more to the schools, which is what we've done in the past. And we're going to talk about the school districts and the school districts. But for today, if we want to move in the direction that we've moved in the past, we need to set up a school county board. And that board, historically, has been Commissioner Sampson , Fred Jarman, and myself, and we meet with the school districts to look over the per pupil count, make sure that distribution makes sense to everyone, and then we will bring that back before the board for final approval. I would like to see this change. I think if we can-- I'd like to see this go to 25% for the schools and the remainder for road and bridge. I think we have a-- you know, we've been in-- we're in a budget crunch. We have a road and bridge department that's been under funded for almost a decade. You need to have the roads in good shape so you can get to the forest into public lands. And the school. Yeah, and get kids from-- that live outside of the municipalities back to the schools through buses and so forth. I mean, you know, we hear from RE2 all-- we used to. I don't know what we did this year because we didn't have a lot of snow. We used to get a letter from RE2 thanking us for plowing and helping get their buses to school on time. So that's my thoughts. The county's always done a wonderful job at that. Yeah. Always. I mean, that's a change because I know the school districts use these for, I think, after school funds, after school programs. That's-- those are kind of my thoughts. You know, we've been a-- I don't know-- I don't know if I want to say benevolent county, but we've-- when we were a healthier county financially, we carried a lot of the burden, and I don't know that we can continue to do that. I think that's-- that's why we're looking at things just for-- like cuts to RAFTA and so forth as we move forward through the budget process, so. We've been very generous to many organizations for many years, and I think most of them understand where we're at, kind of under the gun with this finance and so on, and if that's the will, if you want me to continue to serve there, that's what I will portray to that board. I guess the question is back to Jamaica. Do-- is there still-- if it's 25%, is there still a committee? No. No. No. It's only a few-- It's broke out by-- it's broke out by pupil, and then they can spend those funds as they need to? Yeah. It would be $74,690 of that $276 that's distributed amongst the school districts. Okay. And that's based on student and-- Correct. Yeah. Pupil count. Take Eagle count, I guess like 10-- So that will need a motion? Yes, I believe it would-- I think we need a motion as opposed to direction. Mm-hmm. Yes. Yes. Yeah. The motion is-- do we need the street counter? No, we don't need to put together the committee, but we do need to talk about the percentage that goes to Garfield County. But I think, isn't it state law that-- or federal law that 25% must go to-- Yep. A minimum of 25%. The motion probably should say something-- but I'll just make the motion. Yes. Exactly. I move that we follow the guidelines of we give 25%, which is just under, what, $75,000, to the school districts based on their student count for them divided among the-- Perfect. It's four districts, isn't it? It's four districts, yeah. I mean, the one is like two students or something, whatever . Yep. And the remainder go to the-- or do we need to specify that now, or do we just keep that money for ourselves and just decide that later? I think Road and Bridge. I think it's designated as Road and Bridge. It is Road and Bridge. And maybe the direct-- the motion can be direction to staff to draft the resolution. Oh, okay. And bring it back just a lighter day. And bring it back just a lighter day. And bring it back to you at the 25% minimum. Okay. All right. I would move that we direct staff to bring back at our next meeting on June 8th. June 8th, a resolution reflecting that. Perfect. Second. Okay. Any other discussion? Got it. Okay. All right. All right. All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you. That's it for the next meeting. We are to you, Heather. I do not have any updates. Any calendar. Most of the office will be out on Thursday and Friday at the county attorney's conference. Where is that this year? It is in Snowmass. Oh, that would be easy. Yeah. Yeah. I think I might be the only one having a hotel room because I'm the farthest away. Mm-hmm. But yeah. Yeah. You don't want to have to deal with that traffic. Not every day. So yeah. But Graham will have to deal with it. Yeah. I think I might be the only one having a hotel room because I'm the farthest away. Mm-hmm. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You don't want to have to deal with that traffic. Not every day. So yeah. But Graham will have to deal with it. Yeah. Yeah. You know, get a taste of what it's like to commute to Aspen . That's right. So just Thursday morning, I'll just drive up there Thursday morning. But yes, that's where we'll be. And then I'll be right back here next Monday. Monday. Okay, Mr. Jarry. Okay. Thank you. Just really, I've got a calendar for you this morning. I'm not sure if I've got an update. I'll ask him. Of course, early in the front part of this week, you all have your CCI conference. That is today, June 1st through June 3rd with the Western District meeting, I believe, on Wednesday is when that happens. Yeah. And Commissioner Will is the new president of the Western District of CCI. That's right. Well, once he gets elected. But we'll get him elected. No, he's been elected. He's been elected. Officially passed the court this meeting. Yeah. He's been vice chair, and now he's chair. Lucky man. I guess the election will be for a new vice chair. Yeah. Yeah, great. Mm-hmm. Congratulations. Very good, Commissioner. All right. Let's see. Tomorrow, Tuesday--excuse me--June 9th, 2026, the board has your regular work session. Because you are gone tomorrow, that's a 9:00 a.m. start. And on that work session, I have-- let me make sure I have it on mine-- it's the discussion on early childhood special tax district . Catherine Kuhlenberg is going to be here to provide you an update. We also have the transition discussion regarding congregate meals. That is with Valley Meals and More. That will be second in this order. And then, uh, Road and Bridge and Rob, Hannah will be here to talk to you about a FLAP grant opportunity. Uh, and then, uh, Travis Horton will be here to talk to you about the Community Corrections Annual Report. Great. So that'll be--it's a 9:00 a.m. start. I believe we can cover all that before noon. Yeah, it'll be at full. But it'll be full. That's right. Yes. 9:00 a.m. start. Great. Um, and then we have, I believe, tomorrow evening is the next regular Fair Board meeting. Uh, and that is in the Rifle Administration Building at 6: 00 p.m. Uh, you're back to this dais on June 8th, and that--excuse me, you are not back to this dais. June 8th, you are in parachute at your remote meeting. That says 8:00 a.m. That's usually at 9:00 a.m. It's at 9:00 a.m. It's at 9:00 a.m. So we have some travel time. Mm-hmm. This will be at the parachute library, 9:00 a.m. Okay. So that's your remote meeting. Uh, June 15th, then you are back here, uh, in your regular board meeting. And just to remind the board, this is the meeting where we will start with Colorado Department of Transportation at 8: 00 a.m. So CDOT at a.m. Right. Up to 10:00 a.m. And we have invited all of the jurisdictions, uh, to, uh, attend. And so CDOT's gonna make their presentation, and you'll have up until 10:00, which then your board meeting, Commissioner, in particular, at the time-- And so if I could interrupt there, Mr. Jarman. Uh, everybody needs--that's our third meeting of the month. Right. We also have FMLD presenting. Yes. So I think everybody needs to expect, uh, we'll go probably mid-afternoon, maybe late afternoon, depending on all the topics. So there will be a lunch break from-- Right. We won't as-- Commissioner Martin, we're still chair. He'll just work us through lunch break. But we are gonna take a lunch break from 12:00 to 1:00, so. Yeah, we're just going to recess for that. Yeah. Be fine. Correct. We'll make sure that happens. Thanks for saying that. Uh, let's see. Then we have, uh, Tuesday, June 16th, you have your regular yearly work session with the Town of Carbondale trustees. And on the agenda right now, you can see the list of topics , um, which is quite rich. I don't think we can get through those in an hour. I don't think so either. So, as you can see the list, you know, Carbondale has suggested, uh, discussing their wild-- uh, wildfire modeling, working with, uh, uh, the-- uh, the Carbondale roll fire and then they run Fork Wildlife-- uh, Wild Park Collaborative. Is that going to be their presentation then? That's correct. Yeah. The second one is the same thing. That's the overview of an impact accelerator grant that they have received. Uh, the commissioners have put on their-- Yeah, I'm going to share that with GCE if I'm correct. That--that is-- I believe so. I believe so too. Yeah. Uh, and then the commissioners asked for a discussion around the Hogback bus service, uh, the Carbondale rodeo, uh, Congregate Senior Meals, uh, update on, uh, Kindred 108 bridge by Colorado Rocky Mountain School. And then you had also suggested talking about, um, what you had heard, concerns around the Crystal and Nettle Creek for water service. Right. I just really had a question there back to, uh, Carbondale is how--how are they doing for water? Right. That really is the question. So, unless you'd like me to suggest changes, this is what you have and we can try to work through it? Uh, I--I--I think we just-- Pretty robust agenda. We might get through the first two items and be done. I mean, you know, that might--we may run out of time, but yeah, we have all these on there, so let's--I think we leave 'em. Yeah. All important items. Yeah. Okay. All right. Very good. Uh, and then finally, just to keep reminding the board, there is the June 18th special ribbon cutting, uh, for the --honoring the completion of Hanging Lake Trailhead, uh, the reconstruction project. That's 10:00 a.m. That's 10:00 a.m. on June 18th at the trailhead. And, uh, personally, I'll tell you, my wife just hiked it yesterday and it looks great. Yeah, you can ride out there and you have to ride the bus, the bus. Okay. Yeah. Uh, and then, uh, uh, the reservations. So that's it. And Rob, do you have any updates for the board? Uh, just a quick update on, uh, County Road 108. Um, so the, um, the decking has arrived. Uh, today on the schedule is to remove some of the existing decking, um, on the bridge. So the engineer can come out there and view the girders, see if there's any additional damage that was, um, that you couldn't see with the decking on there. Um, once that's completed, um, our, um, desire is to create a schedule. Um, I think that'll be the last unknown of the bridge, um, that may affect the schedule. So, um, we'll get an engineer's estimate on, uh, completion of that project, um, and hopefully announce that either this afternoon or tomorrow. They are moving the cattle today, so that might affect some of that schedule, um, because they had the-- Do we have-- is there one lane still open the cattle can go across or the-- For the cattle, yes, sir. For the cattle. Um, we did have a unfortunate incident where, um, somebody ran through the barricades, um, last week. Uh, so we did close it to, um, vehicular traffic. Um, but cows are-- are pretty-- pretty safe to come over. Yeah, as long as we can keep them all in one lane. Yeah. Yeah. So that's the update on that, unless you have any-- What update are the cattle coming across today? Uh, they were scheduled to come across today. The-- the big group, the 320 pairs. Yeah. And 11 bulls. We're supposed to cross over this morning. Um, so I'll run out there this afternoon and-- and, uh, hopefully, um, meet with the engineer and-- and again, establish that completion. Okay, great. Thank you. That is-- It's inconveniencing a lot of people, so I appreciate the patience of the community and, um, you know, it's-- I think that's a good improvement for the community. And, uh, I think that's a good improvement for the community. And, uh, that's a good improvement for the community. That's the best part. 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And then the other thing, it probably hasn't been covered. Oh, strawberry days on June 20th. Yeah. Yeah. Official start of parade season. Official start of parade season. You got your deal rigged up? All right. Yeah. Okay. That's all I have. I think you've covered everything I have. That our economic development meeting went well last Thursday. It was good to hear from the Center for Excellence and what they're doing for firefighters and for firefighter safety. I think it was a good meeting. Not as big of a turnout, but still a good turnout. Right. And that round table to be able to listen to all the people in the room and the things that are going on. It's weird. We're quite a busy and unique county. Yeah. With that, we can be adjourned just a few minutes before 9: 00 AM. Amen. Okay. Okay.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. We'll move to silence in your own way. Thank you. I guess we have a presentation on AI. Gary? Yes, sir. I'm happy to see that Kendall is able to join us. If you can make her a presenter. Good. Welcome you this morning. I'm pleased to introduce Kendall Ferris with Madison AI. Kendall works exclusively with local governments to implement practical AI tools that help staff quickly access information, reduce repetitive work, and draft reports. Today she'll share a few real examples of how cities and counties are using Madison AI in their day-to-day operations. So Kendall, good to see you. Please take it away. Hi. Thank you so much. Good morning, everyone. I'm so grateful for the opportunity to be able to speak with you all today. I've had some great conversations with Gary, you know, on Madison AI and what could be possible with bringing a solution like this into Garfield County specifically. So I'm going to start with a little bit of a presentation describing, you know, who we are, the use cases that we solve for, the collaborators involved, a little bit of a roadmap for our future. And then I'll jump into a demonstration so that we can see it in action. But please, at any time, if you have any questions or comments, don't hesitate to stop me. I can get a little excited talking about Madison, so feel free to pause. Is everyone able to see my screen? Yes. Thank you. Okay, wonderful. So here at Madison AI, we are really on a mission to accelerate the repetitive, sometimes painful, but very required work tasks within local government. So we will do the heavy lifting on creating the data lakes and knowledge AI assistance to help deliver these tasks at about 80% completion consistently. And now the reason that I like to say 80% is because by no means are we trying to be a seat replacer. We are trying to be a workforce multiplier or like an over-eager intern in your back pocket at all times. But we believe very strongly about human in the loop. And so we want your professional eyes on the information being generated with AI. I like over-eager intern. Right? It's a really great way to think about it because, you know, no longer is this just like a generic Google search. It's more of a conversation. And so when you think about a conversation with an intern, you need to give it quite a bit of directions, right, and parameters to get the job done. So what's very unique and special about Madison specifically is that we are co-created and co-founded by local government. So to give you all a bit of background, we come from the strategic planning world. So we have been in the strategic planning business for about 20 years in the Reno-Tahoe area. And about three years ago, we were speaking with our longtime clients, Washoe County, asking how we can assist in their AI governance and AI strategy plan. So we began workshopping different ideas. And it was their assistant county manager, Dave, who was like, well, wouldn't it be amazing if we could utilize AI to draft a staff report? And, of course, everyone in the room shook their heads yes because we all know how long it takes to draft a complete staff report. And so from there, our business partnership was born and has snowballed into the success that we are today by continuing to partner with local municipalities to build out additional AI assistance. All right. So next, let's take a look at what is under the hood or how we are able to get all of this done. So you're probably familiar now with AI searching out into the World Wide Web. Well, with Madison, what we're going to do is we are going to unify your previously siloed institutional information and make that the source or the data brain that AI is referencing for your specific AI assistant. So on the left hand side, you can see different examples of data repository sites that we are able to retrieve information from. But don't worry, not limited to these logos listed here. And what we will do is once we have listed out the different use cases or models that we will be solving for, we will then know which files or folders will be needed to retrieve. Once we retrieve that information, we will take your files through a very high fidelity data conversion processing piece. And now this part is kind of like our secret sauce and maybe one of the most important pieces to all of it. Because if your document is not fully converted, there is no possible way that AI is going to give you a fully accurate answer back. So we will ensure to do OCR, additional text conversions, metadata extractions for things like dates, and make sure to remove any duplicate files. So once we have built out your custom index, it's pretty standard up until this point with every municipality that we work with. But then past this point, it's highly customized and tailored to exactly what you would like to see. So you will get matched with a dedicated client success manager who will help you embed into the backend the templates for these reports, for your meeting minutes. So you really get to create or control the tonality and the branding that is done within this. Now we will also ensure to update these indexes weekly. So that index always stays up to date and refreshed, and you never have to worry about bringing in new information. Kendall? Yes. This is Commissioner Sampson. I have a question for you. Could you define, in layman's terms for me, your phrase, entire enterprise file set? It's underneath? Yeah. Okay. Sorry, over on the left-hand side? Yes. Yes. So depending on which model, as you see over on the right-hand side here, will depend on which from the enterprise data that you will need. So we actually don't want to pull everything in. More is actually not better in this case. We want to be very specific about which files that we are bringing from your enterprise data. Okay. Thank you. Does that make sense? Yeah. Okay. Any other questions? Okay. Perfect. So let's talk now a little bit of the different models that we have for here. So starting off with your master internal documents, this is your citywide or countywide model. This will allow you to do things like draft and review staff reports, draft meeting minutes, be able to pull a complete timeline of a topic. You could do code lookup and analysis. You can prep for an upcoming county meeting. So you can draft talking points. On the back end, you could draft a recap or look at voting history. So we would love to help you better prepare for your upcoming meetings pre and post, hopefully enabling some efficiencies as well during that. And then the second model that we have is for our engineers, community developers. So a lot of times what I hear from these end users is things like a citizen will call in and would like to add on a garage or build a pool, but isn't sure what their setbacks are, what past permits have been pulled, things of that sort. So usually that planner has to go dig through a few different data repository sites, compile that information, and hand that back to the citizen. Well, now with Madison, all they would do is enter in the address or APN and receive an entire output of all of the allowed use for that specific address. So it'll give you zoning and allowed use. It'll give you density standards, setbacks, floodplains, environmental impacts. And then you can ask Madison to draft an email back to a citizen with a summary of that information. So although we are not explicitly externally facing, we do solve for a lot of those factors. We, again, just really want human in the loop and want those professional eyes on the information being produced with AI before it's handed back to your community. And actually, we partnered heavily with Golden Colorado to build out this model. They have to provide a staff report for every single family plan that comes through the city. So we are able to draft their staff reports now, saving them quite a few hours per week. The next models that we have is our procurement and contracts model, which we built with the city of Corona, California. They were noticing some discrepancies or biases within their procurement process or where templates would be, old templates would get passed through into the city attorney's office. And they were spending extra money there on something that should have never been sent forth in the first place. So this will embed into the back end the templates for your contracts, RFPs, RFQs, RFIs, and then walk a staff member through the specific pathway forward to drafting the correct document. And then lastly, we have our public records fulfillment document or fulfillment model, which will compile all of the files needed to fulfill the request. And then do a summarization of those files in case it needs to be read or reviewed. And then do the AI redactions and explanations for those redactions. Last is just department specific or project specific. If you wanted to put a subset of knowledge together and have it do, you know, certain scope, we can absolutely do that. Here's where I like to pause because I know I did just go through quite a bit of information. And every municipality that I work with is different based off of their needs. So are there any of these use cases that are blaring where you are like, we could absolutely use help here, or we would like to learn more about this use case? Well, I have one. This is Commissioner Sampson again, and I guess I'll direct it towards our legal staff. If I'm following this correctly, this could be a great help meet for CORA requests. Well, for CORA requests, I don't know. What we do is we essentially, and Gary might actually, Gary actually helps us with some of those CORA requests for emails and things like that. But for the most part, we gather documents from other departments. And so then we would need to go, we go through those and then make sure that all the information in them we can release. Yeah, we don't want a city of Glenwood, you know. Yeah, that's right. I'm just wondering, Kendall, have you had any experience with either these cities or counties that you help that they have CORA requests go through your, I guess it would be the public records fulfillment section here? Yeah, so we, this is one of our newer models. We do not have any municipalities yet in Colorado, but we're definitely speaking with our customers over at, again, Golden, Aspen, Pitkin, and Castle Pines about moving forward. I know Castle Pines wants to expand into this model. And so what this would do is kind of unify a solution between all of the departments because we often see, right, where a request will come in. Either, you know, the clerk or IT will have to handle it, send it out for the department to pull in that information. And then someone, you know, goes through it, compiles it, and sends it off. And so with this workflow, you're still able to uphold all of that. It just provides you, like, one interface to solve all of those different steps. If that makes sense. And let me ask you this. Are you currently using something like Microsoft Purview or just FOIA? You know, how are you currently solving this? We currently have an online form. People submit it. We get an email, and then we do exactly what you just described. We send an email to the departments where they may have responsive documents. They send us the documents. We review the documents and send them out. Yeah, and I'll use Purview on my side for SharePoint and OneDrive and emails. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. And so you are having to read all of those documents, though. How many would you say, like, on average per request, you know, maybe, like, the biggest amount of documents that you have seen come through at one point? Like, some of the folks I speak with, it can be 2,000 documents per one request. Well, it can be, but generally it depends on how much the requester is willing to pay. So I think the last time we had a request where somebody was willing to pay for that many documents and the research that was required to do it was maybe 18 months ago. And so we don't get those large requests on a regular basis. And I wouldn't, from a legal perspective, we would still need to review all the documents. You know, we can't rely on any to do the legal review. Absolutely. Yeah. I know this is hopefully just helping with providing efficiency to compile it into one place, produce those summaries, help with the extractions or redactions, and, you know, organize it into different buckets of, like, needs human review. We have reviewed these documents before. Things of that. So, you know, we can absolutely talk more about this or expand into something like this once we have kind of delivered on maybe more of those low-hanging fruits, like the county-wide model of, like, meeting minutes and staff reports and voting history, stuff like that. And then as we grow kind of that trust and partnership through that, we can then kind of talk about what it would look like for those quorum requests, you know, if that makes sense for you all. Thank you. Excellent. Yeah. Kendall, if I could, this is Fred Jarman. I'm the county manager. Hi. Thanks for being here today. And, you know, I can think of just a plethora of applications as we explore this and finding efficiencies for how we do report writing. But even more than that, you know, the county has a video system, just like we're doing today, where we'll have recordings of our meetings. And I'm curious to know if your system would allow us to go back in time and mine those audio, that audio data, to present or create a summary of a particular topic, let's say, that, you know, maybe it was 10 years ago, but we happen to have audio. Could this system go back and, you know, as an example, I'd like to know every time the topic of vaccinations came up, you know, in front of the board for the public health, and could this system go mine all of that? And then in addition to that, the other wrinkle I'd like to talk a little bit more about is your OCR capability, which I think is really key because over all of these years we've scanned a ton of documents that are images and not, you know, character-based. And so it would be really incredible to be able to mine all that existing data within our data silos, whether that's in the clerk and recorder's office, whether that's in you pick a department. But is that a capability? Because I can see really amazing power to the commissioners or anybody else in staff to be able to mine that for whatever topic and say, okay, commissioners, over the last 20 years, here is how that's daylighted and a timeline that goes with it, and here's who said what. Because our memories are short, but if it's reduced to data points, I think that's critical to help them and, you know, inform them so they make good decisions based on that. So sorry for the long question, but that's what's really interesting to me with this. Can you share some light on that? Absolutely. Yeah. No, and I think those are such great points to bring up. You know, of course, we can only remember so much, but also if we onboard a new employee, how could they possibly know what has happened in the past without extensive research into, you know, your historical knowledge? So to answer your question, yes, on both of those. So we would love to retrieve all of those audio recordings and take those through our transcription service to produce the, you know, it's an ugly text-based document to provide a transcribed version of those meetings, which would then unlock a bunch of different use cases like, you know, how many times have we talked about vaccinations? How many times have we voted on it? You know, but all of these different types, you know, provide a summary, whatever the case may be. So we can absolutely do that. And then, yes, with the OCR, it is excellent. As long as your documents are digital, we are able to convert them. So we are even able to convert handwriting, which is awesome, and would, of course, be able to convert those PDFs or images so that, again, we can unlock that information and make it accessible and queryable. Okay, super. Yeah, I think there's a lot of power in that ability to mine that, Dan. Thank you for that. My pleasure. That was actually my next question. Yeah, go ahead. No, no. He asked the question I was going to ask. Oh, okay, okay. Perfect. Any other questions or excitement around any certain use cases? I have one more, if I could. Yeah, please. So a lot of what your model talks about, and I really like it, and that's the sense that we're mining internally, right? And the term you use, and I like it a lot, is siloed. It's within the confines of county in our data that we create and then, in theory, we control. But how often can you toggle a switch that says, okay, I want to be able to mine our own stuff, but I do want to go out for comparable reasons with your tool with Madison and see what's in the web, see what's in the World Wide Web to help us evaluate how it compares or what can be added to it or those kinds of things, because, of course, the web is infinite, essentially, and there may be great things to help us. So not just internally, but how does it work externally, and what are the safeguards so we're not doing something that's going to expose us to something? Yeah, I love where your mind is headed with all of this. It's very simpatico for exactly how Madison is set up. So, you know, about a year and a half ago, we did have that question come up of, like, this is great and all that we can source off of our own data. But I would love to be able to toggle on web browsing and compare and contrast to what another city or county nearby is doing, and then kind of, you know, make a recommendation and move forward that way. So what we have done is, within the safety of our four walls, we have been given the ability to use a copy of the code for perplexities generative AI, CLAWD, and GPT. Now, what this means is it's keeping you and your end users safe while also providing the powerful use of those AI tools. Because we are using a code of it, it is not sending any of your information or conversations out into, like, the AI ether to train those AI models. So it's only ever bringing in information from the web, but not sending any information back out. Furthermore, while I'm on that topic of security, we just outright block for any sensitive personal information being uploaded to the system. So that saves you and your end users. Of course, you know, we can train and ask people to not upload sensitive personal information until our faces are blue. But, you know, at the end of the day, we move fast and things may get uploaded by accident. So this will search for things like social security numbers or pay rates or, you know, you get to set those parameters. And then we'll just let the end user know, hey, this has been flagged for sensitive information and we are not able to upload it to the system. Okay, that's terrific. Thank you. It answered my question. Wonderful. Great conversation. Any other questions? Perfect. All right. Well, feel free to, you know, stop me again at any time. So the next thing I just like to explain here is, one, of course, we are super proud of the work that we are doing with municipalities and jurisdictions across the country. But two, I think it can be extremely valuable to reach out to our customers. If you know any of these folks over at, like, you know, Golden or Castle Pines, Aspen, Pitkin, highly recommend reaching out to see how are they using it? What use cases are they solving for? What do they like? Maybe what do they not like? Just so that you're able to speak to someone who is, you know, coming from your seat rather than, like, a sales representative. So I'm happy to provide references if you would like any contact information for those folks. And then furthermore, we offer a biweekly webinar where we bring someone from our deployments to speak about the models they've deployed, the use cases they're solving for, all of that great stuff. Because we really want to create a community of good AI use for local governments. And it does not make sense for us to keep this information, you know, guarded or just, again, kind of siloed within our community. So we will send you a link to that next Thursday is actually on our PRA model or that CORA model specifically. Each week is different, but highly recommend signing up. Even if you can't join us on next week's meeting, you will be able to receive, like, a summary of what that meeting spoke about so you can go through that information at your own time. We talked about the security. You know, we are SOC 2, Type 2 certified. I have a, like, 45-page document on our security architecture, all of that great stuff. And I don't think we need to get too deep into that. So that is everything I have for my slides. I will now jump into the demo unless anyone has any questions while I bring this up. Perfect. So let's go ahead and take a look at an example of Madison AI. So this is Washoe County's actual instance of Madison. They have about 115 end users within the system. What's really nice about this is it is unlimited users per model. So you never have to worry about, like, adding an additional license. And you can give it out to whoever you would like. Now, when I say model, I mean, you know, index of information. So you can switch between those different models or indexes over here on the left-hand side. You can also do it here on the drop-down. So this will change the different index of information that we're searching against. And if you and your end users are ever wondering, you know, what am I searching against? I would love to take a look. Highly recommend coming into the data directory. You can see here for the countywide model, it was over 40,000 files of things like agendas, meeting transcriptions, master plans, meeting minutes, strat plans, all of that good stuff. Now, you won't have the ability to add or delete anything from here to ensure that things don't get added or deleted. That shouldn't. But you are on your own, like, user and profile experience. So you can upload a temporary file to your own library and be able to, you know, utilize that information there. Now, when I talked about partnering with your client success manager to customize out the model, you get to decide, you know, which of these tabs do we want and which of these pre-built prompts do we want? You know, what makes most sense for our daily workflows? So for Washoe County, things like looking up and analyzing code, detailed timeline of a topic, checking legal authority, draft a one-page briefing, their board meetings tab, they could do anticipated questions by electeds, analyze a board meeting, draft those meeting minutes, do a recap. The did we say that fact checker is pretty helpful. We've noticed with those public records requests because sometimes you may receive through a request that never actually happened. So you can start here before, you know, starting the workflow of fulfilling a request. Oh, yeah. Yeah, just to interrupt you. So the options that you're showing us here, those would be something that we could tailor. Absolutely. Okay. I figured so. I just wanted to make sure. Yeah. If there's a specific one here that you don't want, we can remove that. Or if you take a look at the, like, library of options and you want to add those in, you're absolutely able to do that. Okay, great. Kendall, this is Commissioner Sampson again. Explain to me what you have here, analyze a board meeting. What would that entail? So what this is going to do here is give us a summary of a specific board meeting. So when we click on that button here, we need to direct it to the exact transcription file to give us a summary of that board meeting. Now, once we have done that summary, we can take it a step further and say, hone in specifically on the discussion around vaccinations or the discussion on sales tax or how did Commissioner Sampson feel regarding it? How did he vote against it? Okay, so the process you would use is that your system would take the minutes and maybe the video of that particular day and time of that board meeting. And then the artificial intelligence would condense it down. How would that, my question is, how would that actually, what would it be the process for the end result that I would look at for the analyzation? Yeah, good question. Like, how are we able to still relay the message in a concise and efficient manner without losing the context of the full conversation, right? Well, you put it in good terms there. That's a good question. Well, I, you know, I should say that even with my own personal AI use, that's kind of something I ask for it is to say, you know, without losing the context, you know, shorten this. But here is an example. So this is just a recap of this meeting. I only remember April 22nd from 2025. I know that a meeting happened at Washoe there. But here we can see each item on the agenda packet, the decision, the vote, and then a quick note. So as you can see here with each output, it's going to have a number bubble. So everything is going to be sourced to where we found that information. So you can open up a short excerpt here from the meeting minutes of where it found that. Or we can open the original source document and dive deeper. Okay. Thank you. Absolutely. Absolutely. So what you're seeing here, I will just explain, is with those pre-built prompts on the homepage, those are what are called AI agents. So these are what we like to call like little minions or soldiers that are given specific directions to go through your files and folders to produce this output. And that's why it's so important to work with someone like us who only works with local government. Because we just spend all of our time developing these agents to give them those directions. Because if you think about it, if we're asking this to go through 40,000 files in seconds to produce an efficient, accurate answer back, it's probably best if we give it a leg up and say, you know, like code supersedes staff reports, which supersedes meeting minutes, all of that good stuff. So if you could see like the back end of how much we have told this AI specifically, it would just kind of help you understand, but then also build trust in its outputs. Okay. I'm going to continue on and then we'll go through a few more examples. So we do have a budget and financials tab. You could run a budget analysis, maybe draft goals or KPIs. And then what I love too, is that you can upload your internal policies. So again, it won't get user specific into like pay rates and social security, but you could ask, you know, what is our FMLA policy? What is our paternity leave? What's our travel policy? Things like that. And this is a really nice place to find that information because we're no longer searching off of a keyword. We're searching off of a meaning. And so when you find it here, it's going to think like, what might that person need next? Like, let me just show, let's do FMLA. It'll kind of anticipate what you would need next and help you, you know, continue on. So we'll give this a second to output here. So right away, it's telling us the policy that we're pulling from, when it was revised, the governing law, and then here's the source to all that information. Here are your eligibility requirements, the types of leave covered, amount of leave available, your protection. So this is much nicer than like pulling up your internal policies, pressing command F, finding FMLA, and then having to kind of comprehend all of this yourself or uncovering. Any questions on the internal admins tab? Okay, Liz, Fred, in terms of doing the query or the searches within the system that Madison would build, I'm assuming that your team would help us train us in the ways to ask questions, the ways that we can use. Yeah, right, Commissioner. The prompts, the tools that are the most useful are probably something we would have to learn to some degree to be able to mine it the right way versus just, hey, give me a report on X. The better way to do that might be what you would train us on, you know, with the hopeful end result being what we wanted. Is that fair to say? Totally, totally, right? Because, like, you don't know what you don't know yet of what's possible with this tool. So with your dedicated client success manager, not only will they help you customize out the app, they are going to be like your AI advisor. So they, we love to come on site. Actually, Christine was just in Colorado, I think, two weeks ago doing on site like deployments and trainings. And so we will train your team on how to best utilize this tool and how to best utilize AI in general. Because here next I'd love to show you what toggling on web browsing looks like. And that brings back open kind of the reason that we are creating a closed source or closed system. You know, we need to check the sources that the web results are going to produce for us. See if it's a media result. See which source that we want to proceed with. And, you know, if you're drafting a staff report, it can be very enticing to generate and send it straight from there. But we are never going to recommend that you do that. We recommend you start with AI but end with the human eye. So please read it. Check the sources. We even have a section on there to help encourage end users to make tailors and edits to each section before exporting it out. So we will absolutely help with training and deployment. And then again, you know, we have those biweekly webinars and we have an excellent resource center here right within the app. I'll show you what that looks like in a second. Great. Thank you. Yeah, super helpful. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, thanks for the great questions. Great conversation. So again, we talked about like those minions or soldiers going out and they have a specific duty to do. For this code lookup and analysis button, you're always going to receive current code and regulation depending on the specific topic that we entered. So I just entered in fence height just to kind of see, you know, what is the code regarding fence height? So we're giving current code regulations, key provisions. So we've got residential versus commercial versus specialty. Even security. Again, all of this is sourced. Proposed amendments. Proposed amendments. Proposed amendments. Proposed amendments. Now, something that I love about this is that as we unify this previously siloed information, we are going to uncover some inconsistencies or discrepancies between different file repositories. Maybe you have certain files that just haven't yet been updated for, you know, a revised amendment or whatever it may be. So here it's uncovering those. Let's see. This is an internal lot versus an entry gate restriction. Tahoe area standards versus general code. So it's just kind of uncovering in these different documents where some updates may be needed. Then we're given other important information. Provides it all to us in a nice table. And so this is where we could toggle on web browsing. Let's say we want to compare this to. Hill County. We'll go ahead and search that. Now, we just talked about, you know, a little bit of the importance of prompting against AI, right? And this is a pretty basic prompt. I always recommend, you know, give it as many directions as possible. But I just want to show you what this looks like in action. So it'll suffice. And now one thing I want to talk about really quick here is if you've used, like, GPT, and please don't get me wrong. I love GPT. I have my own personal subscription, things like that. You've probably noticed, though, that it's a bit of a cheerleader. It doesn't want to tell you no. It wants to give you or produce an answer, even if it can be a little bit incorrect. So what we have done with our AI is said, you need to be able to say no if you don't have that information. Or, in fact, you know, you need to disappoint us if needed. So it's telling us right here, I do not have information to Garfield County within my index. But here's what I can do. So here's what I recommend based off of what you just provided me, where I think you should go next. So everything from your information will be in gray. Everything from the web now here is in purple. This is where we utilize Perplexity's AI. And so it is going to compare the different, you know, Washoe information to Garfield. So it looks like you do require a fence permit. And here, I think it pulled straight from your website. So this would be a good source. We know source bubble one is good. Let's continue to utilize that and trust it every time we see it. Again, it looks like source number three is also good. It's giving us a comparison. Magic. I see from that, and I like it, is, put it in layman's terms, it's willing to admit its limitations. It doesn't want to give you a bunch of stuff that's, yeah, this could be right. I just really don't know about it, so here's some resources. You'll have to do this on your own because I don't have the ability to answer that. Correct? That is correct. Yes, we really understand, you know, how important it is for this information to be correct. You know, it's important for you all and for your communities. And we would be doing the exact opposite of our mission by helping your communities if we're giving you something that is just, it's wrong or it's not helpful or it produces more work than it helps. So we often hold ourselves to really high standards to not only produce, you know, I can't do that, but then also what we call source justification. So if I can, let me show you what I mean within the planning and zoning model of where this is extremely important. So what I'm doing here, I'm just dumping into my demo version of Madison, and I'm going to pull an allowed use that I have ran for a specific address. So here we're given the GIS map. It didn't load the exact GIS, but I'll show you a different example. What I want to show you here is that data consistency and quality check. So it's going through the three primary data sources and explaining more. It is showing where we may have data gaps, maybe some discrepancies, and then a document coverage assessment report. So this is extremely important for our planners because they need to understand what documents did you use to produce this output in case I need to continue on in my research after utilizing this output, you know. So we'll give you that full document coverage report so that you feel really strong in the information you're seeing here. So we're given zoning, primary use, prohibited use, the overlays, floodplains, past zoning, special permits pulled, any variances issued, if there is an ADU, density standards, so on and so forth. And now I know I know I had mentioned earlier signage is one that comes up quite often. You know, maybe I want to draft back an email to a citizen with a summary of the overlays. So then here it's going to draft back an email because I'm sure all of us have used AI at some point to help with an email. It's going to give us that email summary. And then Washoe County has specifically asked for all of its emails. Let me get to it. To if you have any additional questions, here is where you can meet with like a staff member. So in all of their emails, it provides the planning division information. Any questions on that? No? Okay. I know you guys have given me a great amount of time so far and I'm very grateful for it. I'd like to show you one more thing and then we can discuss, you know, any questions or next steps. So I just want to show you an example of the staff report writer. So what we're seeing here is we have embedded into the backend for Washoe three different templates. One for a general, a grant, and a bid staff report. So I'm going to do a general. And then all you have to do is enter in the subject or memo, which speaking with some end users now, they say this is now the hardest part of drafting a staff report. So this is on in a licensing agreement between Washoe and the Transportation Commission for continued storage and emergency preparedness, flood preparedness. You can upload a temporary file if you would like. Like maybe you have a site plan or something to add into the staff report. You can go ahead and upload that. But I'm just going to generate this out and you will see how this generates exactly how Washoe likes to see those staff reports. While this loads, I'll talk a little bit about latency speeds. I've noticed that when I am presenting on Zoom, it does lag a tiny bit more just because it is pulling so much. I'm not sure. But still, you know, this is pretty fast. And then if you do see an output that is taking a little bit longer to run than others, that is because the agent in the background is doing deep research. So it may have to go through deeper into your files and folders. And it may run through those files and folders a few different times. So actually, the staff report that we produce for Golden's planning department, that one can take, you know, maybe two to three minutes to produce. But you can always just tab it out. Go to another tab and it'll keep running in the background. Some of the folks that I show this to say that this is just way too long. So don't worry. We can, you know, have it just be one or two sentences. We can get as granular as to, like, how many spaces after a period you prefer. Whatever that may be. As soon as this is done, I will show you what it looks like to be able to adjust each section and then what it looks like once it's exported. Okay. Now that it's done, again, we have all of our sources. And let's say, you know, we want this background section put into bullet points. Or we want to add code X, Y, and Z. Or shorten it. Whatever it may be. You know, come back through. Make these tailors and edits. While still utilizing the strength of AI. It's going to adjust this background section for me. On the roadmap is the ability to do what we call inline editing. Where I could just click on a certain sentence and kind of, you know, maybe change a word or something like that. So that will be an update here. So that will be an update here. And then we can export as PDF Word doc PowerPoint. And I'll show you what this looks like. So Dave over at Washoe County said, you know, staff report that used to take about five and a half hours. After all full tailors and edits is about 15 to 20 minutes. All right. I know we discussed a lot today. There's so much to uncover. I really appreciate the very, you know, the great conversation, the great questions and whatnot. Is there anything else that you would like to see or any other questions that have popped up? I want to see the bullet points on that. What you just did. Do bullet points on it. Here we go. So it then split it up, this background section, to the bullet points here. Is that what you were asking? Yeah, I guess so. Do you need it to blow it up, Commissioner? Do you want to read it? No, I can see it. You just want to see it. Okay. Oh, there you go. I'm just thinking those are long bullet points. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. It did kind of give us too many. So we could go back and tell it. And what's nice is we can go back into that previous chat that we were just doing. So we do have, you know, session history here. And I could say to it, you know, without losing any context, shorten this down to three bullet points. Something like that. Any other questions or excitement? Does this seem like it would be a helpful tool for your county? This is Fred again. I have way more questions than we have time for today. But because it's just fascinating and it's incredibly powerful. And I'm speaking as a 30-year planning veteran. So, you know, the building and planning world is close to my mind. But having labored through all those staff reports for decades, you know, and being able to see what you can do in a matter of seconds is just mind-blowing, frankly. I'm curious to get your thinking around tonality and branding that you talked about in the beginning of your presentation. And what does that look like? Maybe help describe it for us. I mean, I know, like, just using GPT, you could say, okay, craft the following, you know, letter with X type of tone. And is that really kind of what you're driving at? And how do you get there? So help us understand that with branding. Yeah. So that is, those dials are set a little bit more on the back end. And ours are set, you know, GPT is quite creative. This is very toned for, like, professionalism, expertive, kind of educational, like that kind of stuff. And so we can change those dials how you would like. And then also, where we saw on those emails for the Planning Commission, Washoe wants it to say, here's how you can specifically, like, here's the number to call in to speak with our planners. You can add in stuff like that. You can even get, you know, very granular, again, like how many spaces after a period you want. If you want your background section to be no more than three sentences, things of that sort. Another thing that is very cool is we will ask, you know, do you have specific abbreviations that are probably seen throughout your documents that we can, again, embed into the back end? And so AI will be aware of, you know, for Tahoe, it's like TRPA. That's a big agency and it needs to understand and know TRPA. Does that answer your question? Yeah, no, it does. And I saw what you did with Roshoe County for the branding, and that seems like a pretty easy input for you guys, and we can craft that, tailor it how we need to for what our outputs look like in terms of being consistent and informed to the board. I was also curious, you know, we have, of course, since the early 70s, existing staff reports and analyses of properties from a land use perspective that ultimately were decisions made by the county commissioners. And in the end, those decisions often would include what are called conditions of approval. I'm just curious if your system would be able to go in and you could say, hey, give me a summary of the most common, typical conditions of approval from subdivisions in a certain area of the county, right? And so if the data is mineable, I'm assuming you'd be able to do that. I'm just looking for, you know, researchability and consistency around what the county's required over the years. Does that make sense? Yeah, that's a great question. And so something that, like a little, like, flag or warning that came up on, you know, that kind of specific prompt is asking it to just kind of go, I don't know, let's say, like, going back, like, 50 years and trying to find a theme or a pattern over that. So I would recommend chunking it out and saying between these five years and honing into the different patterns just to increase the, you know, likelihood of a great answer. And then furthermore, if that is something that you need to do on an often basis or whatnot, we could create you an agent. So, again, helping it best produce that. So we're happy to create any type of agent that you may need. And then with ingesting a large file set like that, usually we recommend about the previous or past 10 to 15 years of data. We have found that to be a really great just kind of, like, understanding of who you are as a county now. And a lot of things are referenced in those documents. So we'll still pull back further. But we do have a lot of folks like Contra Costa County who their planning division wanted eight terabytes of data uploaded. And so, you know, that's no problem and we can do it. There just is an add-on fee for what we call historical knowledge. Okay. All right. That's helpful. There's no shortage of data, I would say. Yeah. And that's the beauty, you know, of local governments. It's like, you have to keep this stuff. And so let's make it useful, you know. It's very exciting, though. Thank you. Absolutely. My pleasure. I think we are coming up at time and I do want to be courteous of your calendar. If there are any other questions, you know, please don't hesitate to reach out and ask. I also love to continue on if you want to do another demonstration, add on any other team members, you know, feel free. I'm happy to do that. And I will send you over some additional resources and references that I have in that leak to that biweekly webinar. Does that sound like a good plan? Yeah. I'm good. Yeah. I had a couple more things here, Kendall. Okay. As we're going through all this, it seems like obviously Madison would be deeply embedded in our operations, right? And then at any point, can you maybe, could the county switch vendors? How difficult would that be? Yeah. So let's say that in a year or two, you decide maybe you want to try running all of this yourself. Or, I mean, at this point in time, there's no vendor in the market who is doing what we're doing. But let's say down the line, there is. So we part ways as friends. You own all of the data that we have done that conversioning on, you know, OCRing and whatnot. So we will either hand it back to you or delete it all. That's completely up to you. And then, of course, you know, like any outputs or whatnot, you'd have the ability to export your session chats and whatnot. So you grab whatever you need, and then we just shut the system down. Okay. I just begged the question when you were going through all that to me. No, of course. Yeah, and it's hard because, you know, a lot of our folks have things like Tyler. And Tyler is really hard to get your information from. And so we just want to ensure you, you know, that you own this. It's your data. And so we'll hand it all back to you. You probably scared our IT person pretty bad because he knows how many calls I'm going to make sure about this. Oh, if only we already had Madison set up, then you could just ask Madison. Fred has another question. Okay, sorry. Just one last question from me anyways. Yeah, not a problem. And it's been really helpful, Kendall. Thank you. And as we explore this, you may not have thought this far with Gary or talked about it, but let's say we were to come on board with Madison. Generally speaking, with a county our size, you probably don't have a scope of the data sources that we have. But what kind of time frame to ramp up to where we would be ready to roll and use it full force? Like what can you – I want the board to understand what the ramp up for this looks like. And so anything you can share along time frames to where we can get going on it, that kind of thing. I don't know if you've thought that far. And from a board standpoint, tell me what subscription cost or whatever, too. Yes. So let me see. There is a method behind the madness, luckily, for implementation. So I do have an implementation timeline. Let me see if I can pull this up. So – but while I do pull this up, we, for that county-wide model, are looking at about 60 days before we are delivering value. And then with planning, it is usually closer to about 120 days just because of how much data, you know, the planners have and how expensive that data is to convert. So those indexes are usually closer to, like, 150,000, 200,000 files. So here is what an implementation or a sample deployment schedule looks like. So we'll do a kickoff meeting. We will set what we call, like, pilot or lead teams of a few folks from the county to help build this out. And then we'll do the heavy lifting on ingesting all that data, building it out, whatnot. And then we'll do, around week six, a pilot team meeting and training. So this is where we'll hand it out to, you know, those team leads and say, get in here. What are you liking? What are you not liking? Please provide feedback before we do a full staff training. Just in case there are any tweaks or adjustments that need to be made. We don't want to do, like, full staff training and then lose any trust or excitement if there are still adjustments that want to be made. And then we'll do a 90-day check-in and then ongoing training as needed. All right. All right. And then I was sharing my screen. Yeah. Okay, great. In regards to pricing, let me pull up the different models again. So during the sales process, I really do like to take the time to get to know you and your team. And what this helps do is uncover those most painful repetitive tasks so that I can make your recommendations of which models I would recommend to start with, you know, depending on budget, trust, like all of these different factors. Once we have identified that, then I can put together a dedicated proposal. So we do tiered-based pricing based off of a few different factors, city size, budget, all of that good stuff. And our models range anywhere from $15,000 to $45,000 annually. Again, that is unlimited users. And then we do have one-time setup fees around like $5,000 to $10,000. I am able to knock some of those setup fees down as we bundle models together. Yeah, very helpful. Thank you. Absolutely. Yeah, I love that we can be transparent about pricing. Yes. Great presentation, Kevin. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that so much. It's truly been my pleasure. Thank you for such a great start to my Tuesday. Again, please don't hesitate if you have any other questions. Is there anything else I can answer you before we end today? I don't know. It's kind of a crazy question, but I'm going to throw it out there. Say a couple of us would like to come to Washaw County and just sit down and visit with them and so on. Would you be willing to be there as well and just help kind of indoctrinate us into their system a little bit? Heck yeah. Please do. Yeah, come to the office. We'll take you to Washaw. Whatever you'd like. That would be awesome. You know, if we can make that happen, we'd absolutely love to. If not, I'm also happy to set up like a Zoom call with Washaw and a few of their folks. Okay. Thank you. Yes, very helpful. Thank you, Kendall. Absolutely. Thank you, Kendall. Thank you. Wonderful. Have a great rest of your day and we'll talk soon. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Wow. I can see that. I can see that. I can see that. That pricing. That was way under what I was thinking. That's what I was thinking, too. I was impressed with that. Yeah. If you don't mind, I'd just like to take a second and just pulse maybe some of the people in here and see what they think about this. That was what I was thinking. That was what I was going to do. That was what I was going to do is what everyone else sitting in the room thought about this and the value of it. Let's start with you. Why don't we start with the main man, Gary? I was just looking at it as something that would be helpful to departments and admin and especially planning and all of those areas. But that was my... Don't you think it would be an incredible tool for a commissioner, though? Yeah, definitely. I mean, I do. I mean, sometimes I've wondered about what did guys say about this in the 50s when they first started looking at this, you know what I mean, and get their comments, you know, kind of like the Supreme Court of what's the background on this, where we're coming from. Precedents. Precedents on this. And what was their reasoning for why they did what they did? Yeah. I mean, yeah. And Mike, you have a huge advantage of that, being a commissioner that many years. Me, it's like, I don't even know if that resolution was ran two years ago, right? Right. So it would be extremely, extremely helpful for new people. I thought you were going to say since I was born in the 1800s. Yeah. Well, commissioners, that's why I asked that question, frankly, is because there may be a topic area, a public policy area, right? I think I picked one that, you know, you guys debate and decide on all kinds. But in the last five years, what has been said from this dais on a public policy matter? And you mentioned vaccinations, you know. Yeah. I mean, just one of hundreds, right? Whether it's public land policy, federal public land policy. Right. Whether it is, you know, local issues that you're interested in, at least gives you a feel for what was said, who said it, what the tenor was, you know. And, of course, you can't find a future board ever and so forth and do what you want with it. But I think it's helpful that way. I'm always searching for a letter or something that was put out. Yeah. Like Ebola has those, you know. But, you know, it takes time to retrieve that and do all that. I could, like I say, I'd probably have to be calling Roy a lot, you know, to figure it. That's okay, Roy. Roy doesn't mind. But, for example, you know, Mike Sampson's been a leader on the Jordan Cove topic as an example that comes to mind. You could go back into the system with all of the documents that you have written and sent. You could say within all those within the last X amount of years, you know, give me a summary of the highlight of the points that this board was supporting or advocating for. Yeah. And right then you've got it, you know. And that helps you with if you're working towards testimony or anything else, you know. I appreciate that they're working on new things all the time as well as counties and cities bring up areas that they'd like help with. They have developed those agents for specific uses. So that's nice to have that customization. Fair question to ask you. I mean, you know, where they're the only ones. But, you know, if you use Madison, I mean, they're embedded in you. It sounded like you can get out of it real easy. I don't know if that's the case. But I could see you're deeply embedded with, embedded their agency in the county within whatever you're picking there. But he made it sound like you could get out of it easy. I don't know about that. And my other question was, who owns the data? She answered that. So I think that maybe it is an easy switch. I don't know. Well, Gary, correct me if I'm wrong. But, I mean, go back, I'll say 40 years. It might not be that far. But computers are just starting. And we're sitting in this room 40 years ago. The commissioners say, we don't want anything to do with computers. Okay? Well, you're going to be in the Stone Age real quick. Yeah. And that's how I look at AI. And it's like every modern day invention, evil people will try to do evil things with it, whether it's computers or film or whatever. Whatever it is, you know. And that's life, I guess, and we have to contend with that. But governments, business, personal life, pretty much in a lot of ways is controlled by computers. And if you don't know how to use it, you're at a great disadvantage. And I can say in 10 years, if you're not using AI, you're going to be at a great disadvantage and be taken care of. So we've got to think ahead of the box here, outside the box, I guess I should say, and get the best deal for our county and get on board and make sure it's safeguarded and done properly, or else we're going to be in the dark ages and, well, it isn't going to work. It won't work. It just won't work. Right? Isn't that where we're going? Yeah. Yes. I see it creating a lot of efficiencies. I do. Huge. Yeah, it adds a lot of complications and complexity to life in general, but I think, as Commissioner Sampson said, there's a trade-off with anything technology-wise. This sounds like with that siloed and walled information that it's one of the safer routes to take. Well, I like the fact that you create it with them. It's not something they create and then try to come sell to government. Mm-hmm. I like that part a lot. You co-create it. Mm-hmm. And they're not saying, hey, we made this and then go try to sell it to you. So I did like that. I like that part. I have a question for Gary, Commissioner, if I could. Yeah. Just from the architecture of the system. And so they talk about the silo. So I had in my mind all along that the data that they would mine with their minions lives here now in our silos. But then she mentioned later in her presentation about the one entity that wanted to go back way, way, way back in time. And it was like eight terabytes of information or whatever she described, right? And I got the sense that she was saying they would upload all of that data up to the cloud, which is their system that they operate in. Is that the same? Help us understand mechanically or just the architecture of the way this works. Because it would be one thing, and I think it's easy to understand, if everything's still lived in our silos, then they come into our silos, mine it, and push out the outputs to Glenn or to Joshua or to the board or whoever. Or is it they come in and they grab everything we have, everything we want them to have. They push it up into their closed silo that's still GARCO and mine it all there. Help the board understand that. I don't know if I understand that. I really don't know the answer to that, whether they do ingest all of that into a cloud of storage, you know, the secure area, or if they do store all of those data lakes internally. Right. I got the impression from one of her answers, though, if we contracted with them for five years and then we'd change and go over here, I kind of got the impression that anybody else that everything that was ours is ours. And now it's relinquished back to us. They do not keep that. And she did say if we wanted it deleted, so that does imply that it would be a storage on their side. And that would be clarification, but that's what I kind of thought. Yeah, me too. You can't keep that. That's ours. We're letting you use it to help us do what you need to do for us. But when we leave you, it goes with us. It doesn't stay with you. Right. We'll have to clarify that. But that's what I got from it. Did you get that, too? Yeah. Yeah. I'd like to hear from us. Contractually, that would have to definitely stipulate. For everybody in here that want to say something. Super interesting presentation. We were all listening upstairs in case you wanted to know. The questions that I was asking were really on point for new development and planning and zoning inquiries. So it's a powerful tool and one that I think one of the key things was the training on getting the queries right. Making sure we're asking the right questions to get good information. For us, I think it's hugely powerful. It has a little potential. We live in a world where we coordinate with the attorneys a lot. And there's certain things that probably will continue to be a little more hands-on as far as things like findings and legal issues that are critical to a recommendation. So, I think that it's super powerful. Training is going to be critical. Our database, we work on that. Make sure that it's complete. There's some issues there that we kind of get ahead of. But I think it would like to have a presentation as well potential. I know that there's interest out there on the fourth floor for some upgrades to our permitting processing software. I'm kind of curious how that might fit into all this as well. I know that on the building side there's some interest there. How that can all interact and interact with whatever. Very powerful presentation. And there's a real great potential for that background research. I think you're still going to have a planner who will fine tune in the report. But your question about tone, we're right on point. So, is the staff report moving toward a recommendation for approval or a recommendation for denial? Getting those findings right probably is going to require a planner review, a planner of fine tuning it. Also, there's a trend. We've talked about this quite a bit. All the simple projects, all the simple properties are probably used. The ones that we're seeing are complicated ones. And as a tool that helps us deal with that in terms of the research that goes into that. Where properties have interesting history. Legal creation is something that we're close to Kelly on. That's something that I think is really powerful. Researching the history of properties and how they were created. So, helping out with those complicated reviews which are part of our reality these days. So, that's my input. I appreciate it. And again, I wanted to reiterate, we were all listening in and up there. And, you know, if I had questions on my mind, Fred was usually asking them. So, you know, really valuable. I think all the planners will talk to me. Thank you for putting this work session on. Yeah, I think my question too around the data, you know, when the relationship stops. You know, and that's, you know, having looked at even software for permit management or different things. You know, the data is yours, yes, but the processes that they apply to your data to enhance it. So, like the OCR, you know, and taking, which also reads handwritten stuff now. Does that fees that you're paying for that initial conversion, does that data, is it held hostage in that process or you just get the PDFs back, right? Or, you know, you don't. So that's kind of what my question was, is that end relationship is important from my experience to have that fully mapped out before entering into any agreement. Because just getting, because if we're paying for that, really if we're paying for that conversion, right? So that's kind of what we're paying for, and reading all the PDFs and extracting the information so it's usable and searchable by the agent or the machine. And so you may, in the relationship, and yeah, you still got your data. You know, like you say, it's still all on your machine, the original data. But what's the relationship with the converted data, or what they did with the data that makes it enhanced? And so if you lose all of that, then you're starting over with the next company to have to pay to do that conversion again. And so that's the first thing that came to my mind, is defining out the ending of the relationship is very important before you enter into agreement. Well, that was Commissioner Will's ultimate question. It was. You know, and it sounds like what I heard was we own the data. Yeah, well, that's true. So when we sever it, we get to keep that, because we paid for it. Well, that's, yeah, that was the question I would have to ask. That's what I heard them say. Yeah, I heard them too. And I agree with that, what you're saying, because as she was presenting, I was saying that, because I'm, you know, a lot in the room a lot younger than I am. But I remember when the calculators came out, you know, them $700 to buy a calculator for Texas Instruments. Now they give them away on the street corner, you know. And so this kind of stuff that they're doing is going to change, and it's going to change quickly. That's why I was concerned about, you know, what if we want to switch vendors. Right. It seems like you go with this one, you're deeply embedded in that. That's a good question. I don't know. That's why I asked the question. I think to Fred's point, it's like, where is the data stored? Right. You know, if it's stored in their cloud, and then we have to extract all the data, then where does it go? Yeah. Right. That's, it's more about where is the data located, and Gary can probably speak more to, you know, what kind of, because we all have different platforms. It's a network somewhere. Right. Right. Right. Hopefully not China. We have to make sure it's not in another country, that's for sure. Yes. So that's a good question. Anybody else? Comments? I think it's super interesting. Yeah. Just on the efficiency level of the administrative tasks, you know, that the county does on a day-to-day basis. I think the research ability of it, of mining our own data with guardrails, right, is critical. You know, I can see doing a research project and, you know, asking them to look at our financials for the last 10 years to tell us what our oil and gas tax revenue has been. I can get that information in two minutes, where now I'm pulling 10 different documents to try to put that in a spreadsheet and get the information. So I think that's extremely powerful. But I also am curious if there are silos within the silo, if that makes sense. Meaning, you know, the finance department has a lot of sensitive data, where this would be a helpful tool within the parameters of just the finance department in terms of, you know, wages, salaries, employee records. Can we have a silo within the silo? That's one of the questions I have. But I think it's intriguing and fantastic. The efficiencies are definitely right. Yeah, it's huge. I have a use case from actually just yesterday where I got a question from emergency management that implicated a number of our codes. And I spent time reading the codes and then I emailed out to several different departments in Oakland and Kim both got emails to make sure that my understanding of the code checked with what they understand the code to mean about this emergency use issue. And that would have saved, you know, time for multiple different departments at my own time for several hours reading our codes. That's something that could accelerate that work. Data sets. Yeah. I mean, to Graham's point, it's a good use of getting that information from the data sets if you--if the data sets are in places where you can easily search them. Easily search them. Yeah, and that's--so that's--I think that makes sense. From a legal perspective, you know, we use AI just that's embedded in our legal research and that's helpful, but we don't use it to prepare reports or anything like that. There's specific--there's specific practice rules regarding lawyers using AI, so we follow those. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I think that would be--I thought, like, procurement and the contracts and all that would be--I think it would be extremely helpful. Thank you. Yeah, it would definitely help us as well as far as, like, development of scopes, scope of work, comparing and contrasting to documents, you know, research, those things all went into it as well. Kelly? Smarter people have addressed it all. Were you including me in that? I was a little hesitant there. It was a little hesitant. Yeah, commissioners, one thing that's interesting around this, too, is the folks who aren't here that, you know, look where we have an enormous vault of data. I mean, comdev is called at us, of course, one of them, and that's true, but look at your clerk and recorder. Look at your assessor, right? I mean, these are enormous data centers, if I can use that word. And a lot of it, rightly so, is protected, but there's also a lot of public record. And so to be able to go in and have a system like this, or whoever it is, access that in a different way than it is accessed today. So one of the things I was thinking about when she was describing, when she was presenting was, so to go in and mine, there is a portal on the clerk and recorder's website that you can pay to then go be an end user, whether you're a realtor or whoever it is, you can pay. And you go in and you can mine data, right, Gary? You can research and get access to digital files. So this would be a nuance to that in some ways. Now, internally, of course, but like right now, we'd have to have the ability to go into their system without going through that portal. But to be able to mine whatever it is. And then you would set the parameters, as I understand this. I mean, back to Commissioner Sampson's point, you know, we've got handwritten minutes in physical books that date back to, what, 1893? Sure. And, you know, while that is wickedly interesting, I'm not sure it's something we'd want to upload. But there may be things that you want to do. And so that's just one area. The assessor, I think, is in a -- you know, they've got other portals you can go through the website to access the assessor's data, too. And so we've used this for years and years and years in the planning world that Glenn knows about. So the parcel ID -- she often talked about a piece of ground, right? So in Garthold County, every property has a unique parcel ID to it. And that really is the common denominator for that property. And that number then is tethered to all kinds of documents. And so if you could do, hey, give me a -- give me the summary of everything that's happened regarding this property with this number. And it's going to go through all the com dev files. It's going to go through all the clerk and recorder's files, all the assessor's files. I mean, it -- talk about the immense amount of information that you would get in an output should you want to tailor it that way. And it's just incredible. And so that's kind of a lot of the power. But that takes some work in working with those department heads or those elected officials to go -- you know what I'm saying? Yeah. To navigate that world. So I think it would just be -- you have to go through it very thoughtfully. Because the -- there's no shortage of information. There's no doubt about that. I kind of envision it that kind of like the military, you would probably have to have -- I don't know what you call them -- divisions or clearances. Yeah. Or this is top secret. And commissioners have access to this. Only building department people have access to this. Rail firewall. General public has access to certain things that may be free and others would be charged to access that information. Is that how you kind of envision that? Yeah. And setting that up itself is going to be -- Yeah. Yeah. It requires a lot of work with data stewards, if you will. Yeah. Those in each department and each office, selected office, that actually they own that data that's there. Yeah. We are custodians of that data as IT. We have a place to store it. But basically they -- they are responsible for the data that exists. So, yeah, it will be a lot of work. But sounds like they've done it a time or two, so -- Yeah. Notwithstanding the very, very important sensitivity of some of this data. Yeah. Right? That's the -- that's a really, really important part. So, you don't have what happened in other jurisdictions for the release of sensitive data. That's the one I think it was in California where they released a whole bunch. No. No, it wasn't California. It was -- was it Pitkin County? Anybody hear about that? No. No. No, it was Grand Junction. The city of Grand Junction -- it was in the news this morning -- released a bunch of information that the Daily Sentinel paper got a hold of. But the paper was nice enough to say, "We're -- we're redacting all this, and we're not going to use any of that." So, thank goodness. Yikes. Yeah. It was -- yeah, it was Grand Junction. It was on the news this morning, and I was thinking about that as I was driving in. Boom. That's why you have to have the eyes on it. That's why, yeah, you would -- from a legal perspective, we just would have to review it personally. No. Especially for the court requests. That's right. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you for your comments. Thank you, Gary. Thank you, Gary. Thank you, Gary. Thank you all. Thank you for your attendance and all your good questions and comments. Great. Good. Along this path, it's important to kind of understand we will go -- we have a team. It's an AI team that's helping Gary and supportive of bringing these to the board, because eventually, we're going to ask the board to make a decision on where to go and who to invest with, that kind of thing. And that's -- procurement's a big part of that as well. And so, Gary, I think it's safe to say let us go back as a team, evaluate the next steps, and bring them back to the next steps. And bring them back to the board. Yes. But now you've seen two. So Gov.ai was the first one, and this is the second one. Generally speaking, it sounds like -- and I know Tom's not here, unfortunately -- but at some point, we'll come back to you and kind of get your direction, where you want to go. We'll give you some recommendations, of course. But -- I have a question for you, and I have no idea. You know, Consumer Reports, and they do all this. Mm-hmm. And then -- is there professional journals in your world that do that? For AI? For anything. Oh, yeah. But maybe they don't tackle -- do they tackle AI, or is it so new? Oh, definitely. So you consult that? Oh, yeah. You know, like -- I pretty much trust Consumer Reports, and I look at it, and what is it saying, and so on. So I assume you do the same. And some say, eh, these guys are pretty shady, or whatever, and yeah, this is -- getting you bang for your buck here, and this is the way to go, and there's the top three, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It would be great if Consumer Reports did do a -- Did do it? Yeah. Review. I think it has a pretty good reputation, but -- Maybe in a couple years it will. I don't know. Yeah. Maybe I'll suggest that to them. Yeah. You could use AI to search and -- Right. Yeah, use AI to search. That would be interesting. Yeah, our company really sucks. Depends on who you ask. Well, thank you, Commissioners, on that one. Thanks, Gary. Thank you. And then just for the board, we, of course, have on the agenda the short-term rentals, and we'd like to push that. Yes. Not here today. There's some information that we want to -- we just want to spend a little more time with the topic, bring it back to you with the benefit of that. Thanks, sir. Yes. If that's all right. Yeah, why don't you get some AI information on that? Yeah, it makes sense. Okay. And that would be it. So -- So that's it. Would you like to adjourn? I'm going to do it. All right. Love it. Bye. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

We are on the air, so let's get started. This is our Florida County Commissioner's Meeting for Monday, May 18th, and the first thing on our agenda is roll call. Good morning. Commissioner Will. Present. Jeremy Gencoff. Present. Commissioner Samson. I am here. Okay, good. I'm glad you're here. Okay. Join me in the Pledge of Allegiance, please. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. You stay standing for a moment of silence in your own way. Okay, thank you. Okay, it looks like we have public comments from citizens not on the agenda. Anybody out there that, please, please come forward. Does it matter which microphone? It does. They're all working. You should just, wherever you want to sit. I need to do anything? Start out with, no, don't need to. They're on, so just name and address. Ned Carter. Ned Carter. I live 1527 Blake Glenwood. Have for, I don't know, 13 or so years. I'm sorry to come to you and bother you, but there's a very serious situation that's happening in this county. There is a federal statute, 8 U.S.C. 241, collusion by two or more people to violate a citizen's rights. I actually found out about it because of Mr. Don Lemon. But it applies to Glenwood police. Very seriously. Twice in the last 10 months, I have had a police officer come up and push me. That's assault. They don't get to touch us. We don't get to touch them. The first event was at the Glenwood Fire Department because I was confronting the fire marshal for making buildings in Glenwood Springs less safe. You go over to the Glenwood City building. You go and you look at the enunciator that's on the wall in between the two doors. And it has said system trouble for, I can't count how many months. And I live in the Holiday House, 1527 Blake. The same idiot who was under Joe Daris has allowed the same thing in my building. Matter of fact, Robin Pratt, the fire marshal, has gone so far that he got tired of hearing from me, calling him, telling him the Holiday House system's in trouble. But he had Vision Security remove the enunciator panel from inside the building. And now it's locked behind FACP door panel. I did work for over two years for Western States fire protection. I fixed little systems like the Viceroy, Hotel Denver, Hotel Colorado, little systems. I'm not just talking household systems. The system we put in, Ron Biggers was great. He was so easy to work with and he was a pit bull. He made sure that the panels are clear. He wouldn't let it alone. But Robin doesn't want to do his job. I was over there, confront him about it. And I am, I might not look it, but I'm severely disabled from CIDP, which is MS in the extremities, due to one dose of the COVID vaccine. So much so, in the first two years, I spent 31 days in the hospital and four admissions. Three of them, I went in a wheelchair and I couldn't squeeze a tube of toothpaste. Joe Darish apparently contacted John Hassel. That's number one, number two, Glenwood enforcement. Magically, there's no records. And John Hassel didn't like what I said. When I said, well, you're from South Africa, you might not understand the difference in some wording. And John Hassel said, that's it, you're out of here. Because he didn't like what I said. That's the first one. First Amendment. We have the right to redress our public figures. Okay. I came out. I walk out. And there's, please excuse my language, but I'm very fed up with Glenwood. But no swearing. Thank you. Okay. Well, there are five pigs waiting for me. Ned, can I interrupt just a second here, okay? Ned, now, you know, we have a right to redress of figures, and that's the First Amendment. You and I both understand that. But you know, okay? We're county commissioners, okay? Well, just let me finish, okay? If you have grievances against the county that we, as county commissioners, have control over, okay, please, all right? But everything you've said so far that I can ascertain has to do with the city of Glenwood Springs. So where should you be taking your grievance to? Well, I'm leading up to that. I'm just giving you a little basis for Glenwood Springs. You know where I'm coming from, though. Absolutely. We have no, we can't tell Glenwood Springs Police what to do. We can't tell their building people how to, we can't, well, we could, but they'll just go, hey, forget you. We have no jurisdiction over there. And I understand that, but I'm getting there, and I'll try to get there quickly. All right. I walked out. There were five officers, and there was somebody in a Glenwood Police sweatshirt. I didn't recognize him. He had no equipment on. I walked up to him with my hand out. I don't know, you know, what's your name? I don't know you. And a little Glenwood female officer came up and started shoving me. Didn't like what I said. I didn't threaten that guy. And that was the first event. I was military. I was trained. I did not react. She tried to order me off the sidewalk. Okay, first event. Now we come to last Friday. Had a disturbance. I stayed around to make sure I addressed the issue with Glenwood. I recorded everything. And one of the officers, I came up, probably that far away. He's like, get out of my face. And I turned my back to him. I turned around. I stepped back. And he, according to what I've heard, he said he poked me. No, he shoved me. And being disabled, I saw on TV where the old guy busted his head. I didn't want that. So I did a defensive move so he didn't push me again and bust my head. Well, assault on a police officer. And another charge. I ended up in the Garfield County Sheriff's Jail over the weekend. I got out Sunday about noon. It was that, and this is why I'm speaking to you. It was to say grotesque and being treated like a dog. Dogs get treated better in this valley than I was treated. I had surgery Thursday. I told him when I came in, my medical conditions, I was due for my meds. Not only pain med, which is oxycodone, which I was prescribed. I was due at 6 o'clock. I went in. Oh, they responded very slowly to get me over to the jail to make sure I was there after 5 o'clock so I'd spend the next two days, two nights there. Okay. They denied me my meds. CIDP, mycophenolate, inhaler, and the pain meds. None. Until about 2 a.m. And then when they finally did give me something that was not prescribed, it was some opiate to put under your tongue. I was able to eat breakfast, and after that, I couldn't keep the next three meals down. And the Rodriguez, the nurse over there, you all need to fire. She has an attitude. She doesn't know what she's doing. Carolyn, the nurse, talk to her. She'll tell you what's going on. We don't have the power to fire her. She is an employee of the sheriff's department. I understand. But you made the statement. We can't do this. Okay. Well, my opinion. Okay. And being a nurse, I know where grievances go. But, you know, I was treated so badly. Then, I mean, sweats, dry heaves. And, V. Rodriguez, you're having withdrawals. Excuse me? And wouldn't give me anything. But was I having withdrawals? Because, basically, and there's a heroin addict in the cell with me who said, you've got him overdosing. And he got really upset for me. I'm just sitting there going, you know. And Citadel, you need to get them out of the jail. But, you know, some of those officers are good. Others are not. But, you know, I wanted to share my experience. My question to you. Because where do you think you should be addressing this to? Well, Glenwood doesn't care about anything. We know that. The city? The council. Okay. Well, city council, but the jail. If it's a jail, who's in charge of the jail? Well, I don't. Not the county commissioners. Who? The sheriff. There's where you need to be addressing your complaints to. I wanted it out in public. Okay. And this is the right, and this is a, not the right forum, but a forum for that. But we can't do anything about that. That's, I want to make that perfectly clear. And, well, you can hear about it. Everybody here can hear about it and say, what? But they denied my meds. They said, oh, we're not denying them. We don't have them. We don't have them. Well, when they're, for CIDP is basically MS in the extremities. They wanted to give me other 1,000 milligrams of Tylenol instead of, I believe it was a 5 milligram oxycodone. I said, oh, we don't have it. We're not denying you. We don't have it. Well, if you don't, if I don't get it, you don't have it. That's denial. So, yeah, do we need to go ahead and wrap this up? Yeah. Because now we're starting to get circular. I understand you've got a lot to do. I hear what you're saying, and I hear your issues, and, you know, if you can't take it to city council, you're not comfortable there. Well, they give you three minutes. Then you go the judicial route. I understand. You know, for being shoved and so forth, people have gone to the judicial route and have won cases. But you have to have good witnesses and so forth. I've got video. It's better than that. But, of course, they took my phone and won't give it back. So, this is a venue you can come and talk to us at, and we appreciate hearing from you. Absolutely. Because if you don't hear about it, you don't know what's going on. Well, we heard you. So, thank you. Yeah. Okay. Anybody else for public comment from citizens? Not on the agenda. Okay. With that, we are going to elected officials and Mr. Will, Commissioner Will. I do have to say congratulations, Commissioner Will, because his granddaughter won a state championship in a, I'm not sure which of them. 300 hurdles. 300 hurdles. All right. My granddaughter won the championship, and another one won the runner-up. Runner-up in the 400. Yeah. That's how fast in the 400. Good for them. Thank you. What was the time in the 400? 55, I think. He's flying. Got wings. Okay. But thanks for bringing that up, because I'm very proud of them. They went. Yeah. One went in three events. One went in four events, and they medaled in every event. All right. It's awesome. Congratulations. It's awesome. Must have been a wonderful weekend. It was great. Okay. So we're to you on ratification of comments provided to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Yeah. So this is a good letter, and I think we, I know it's already been signed for ratification, but getting this off to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is good. And what it's asking for is a pause in any more gray wolf translocations into Colorado until we can get this, especially until CPW can get all their programs in alignment and protect our livestock producers, and quite honestly, also protect the wolves that they're bringing. I mean, we've lost, you know, over half of them that's been translocated into this state. So we're requesting a pause in all this until we get our wolves in a row, I guess our ducks in a row. But until this stuff can be worked out. You know, Prop 114 was, in my opinion, very hurried, and we didn't have everything in place. We didn't have all the non-lethal control methods in place, none of that. You know, the working groups had done a great job doing all that, both working groups in preparation for the wolf reintroduction. But it was hurried, and not every program was in place, and I think we saw the result of that. So definitely, it was a failure, I think, in the implementation of the wolf reintroduction. And so we're asking Director Nesvick from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to put a pause on any more wolves into Colorado until we can get everything in order. And there were no introductions in 25-26. Yeah. Which is great. Correct. Okay. Commissioner Sampson, comments? I fully support it. I'd make the motion, but I think it's appropriate that Perry do that. Okay. Mr. Chair, I move that we, by ratification of this letter, to U.S. Fish and Wildlife Director Nesvick and that the Garfield County Board of Commissioners request the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to pause any more gray wolf translocations into Colorado. Gladly second. Okay. Okay. Any additional comment, public comment on this? I don't have a screen, Roy, so if there's somebody on Zoom, you need to let me know. No hands on Zoom, okay. Great. Okay. With that, I'll call the motion. All in favor? Aye. All right. Now we are to the consent agenda. We have six items on consent agenda. I move that we approve all six items on the consent agenda and allow the Chair to sign, though, that it needs a signature. Great. Okay. I'll call the motion. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Okay. All in favor. All in favor. And we are to you, Mr. Jarman. Good morning, Commissioners. In your capacity, serving as the Human Services Commission, on your docket, you have three presentations this morning. And the first one up this morning, this is a presentation regarding A Way Out. Mickey Gordon, morning, is here with colleagues to present. So, hello. Very appropriate to have you here today with our public comments. I think it's very appropriate. Great. Thank you. Yeah. These reports were emailed as well. Good morning. How are you, Tom? I'm good. I always like hearing. I like hearing from all Human Services Commissioners, but I like hearing from Way Out. So, yeah. So, my name is Becky Gordon, and I'm the Executive Director at A Way Out. And I'm Kim Riel. I'm the Clinical Director. And Kim and I met back when I was first... A lot of years ago. Seven, eight? Fifteen years ago. Yeah. Fifteen. Oh, goodness. Don't say that. You must have been in junior. Thanks. Maybe it was less. It was early in my career as a county commissioner. So, I'll start just by thanking the commissioners for the annual support. You know, every year we continue to receive funds from Garfield County. And as you'll see in our report, 70% of our individuals clients served were from Garfield County. And so, I'll start just by saying, I'm going to go to the next level. And I'll start just by saying, I'm going to go to the next level. And I'll start just by saying, I'm going to go to the next level. And I'll start just by saying, I'm going to go to the next level. And I'll start just by saying, I'm going to go to the next level. And I'll start just by saying, I'm going to go to the next level. And I'll start just by saying, I'm going to go to the next level. 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Has really allowed those connections to happen. And then people really do know, oh, I need to call a way out now. Like, oh, I remember hearing about that. That's also called trust. Yes. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Well, or they're in jail and they really need a way out. And those letters are a lot longer than the typical letter we get. Yeah. Have more time. Yeah. Do not pass gold. Yeah. Yeah. I was looking through this, the reduction in emergency room trips. I know that's critical for our local hospitals. Yeah. Huge. Yeah, absolutely. And not having a detox, you know, that's really hard on our county. So whatever we can reduce is helpful. And we are part of the, we work really closely with Valley View. And then out at Grand River, we're part of the discharge paperwork at the ER. And so that's been really great because they call and they say, I just got out of the ER. You know, I went in because I, I overdosed or I drank too much or I need to detox. And now they, you know, they told me to call you and it's perfect because that's like the, like the prime time when people are pretty shaken and pretty scared because of what's happening to them medically to have a conversation with a way out and realize, oh, I do have an option here. Because a lot of people just simply don't think they can go to treatment or get the help that they need. Yeah. And they can. And so on the, I'm glad you received a grant from the regional opioid group. We do receive opioid dollars ourselves and we have granted those to USO and to Tampa Mountain High School for their work they're doing with youth. Yeah. Which all helps everybody, right? It's like we're all, and you know, the collaboration that we've had with some of these partnering nonprofits, it's, it's, it's why we are successful. Because we kind of stay in our lane and do what we do and we need the support of the community and what everyone else is doing. So. All right. Commissioner Sampson. That's what you're doing. I do see all this and it really helps our law enforcement as well. It's, uh, doing good stuff. Perfect. Thanks. Thank you so much. Becky, would you like, can we take a copy of those? Yeah. Thank you very much. Yeah. Thanks. Okay. Back to you, Mr. Jarren. All right. Thank you. Second this morning is a presentation regarding the Aspen Hope Center and I have Erin Mitchell listed here, so good morning, Erin. Welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Erin. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good to see you. It's nice to see all of you again this year as well. Another successful nonprofit, so. Yes. Do a lot of work in our county, so. Thank you. My name is Erin Mitchell and I have the honor of serving as a CEO at Aspen Hope Center. And before I begin, I would just like to make a comment about A Way Out and the partnership that the Hope Center has with A Way Out and some of our success that we have serving individuals in our counties is because A Way Out does such a great job and they work very hard. So thank you. Thank you. I'd also like to say thank you to the Board of County Commissioners for your continued support towards the Aspen Hope Center. And we wouldn't be able to serve into our mission without that. So thank you very much. Our mission is to deliver high quality mental health care and crisis support along a continuum from Aspen through parachute. And we imagine a future where no one in our counties confronts mental health alone. And we have four main programs. And the first program is our crisis stabilization program, which the organization originated with. And that program continues to serve all ages at no cost to individuals or families. We have mobile crisis response and we correspond with law enforcement. We provide emergent crisis support to all three of our hospitals. And we work with our local sheriff's office for aftermath response as well. Our therapy department sees individuals and we have a new program, which is an intensive outpatient program. There's not another one like it in our area. So there's no duplication of services and it serves adolescents, our highest at-risk population with adolescents. And it just started a couple of weeks ago. We're very excited about that. Do you connect with USOwn on that? We do. Good. Thank you. Absolutely. Many of our referrals are coming from different partners, family practices, hospitals, our school-based program. Since I'm talking about the school-based program, it's our largest program. And we serve in almost 20 different schools throughout our region, offering individual and group counseling. We offer teacher and professional development trainings. And we're focused on a social-emotional curriculum that helps, that just helps kids and helps teachers too. So we can make sure that every student who's in the classroom is safe, ready to learn and welcomed. You've helped strengthen our crisis program throughout the years. The HOPE Center turned 16 this year, or it will, in June. And that is something that we're deeply grateful for. Our goals in our crisis program are, this year, were to become more widely known. Because we know that if, when people are in crisis, if they have someone to call, that we have a tremendous impact. And I'll share some of those numbers with you in just a moment. We also wanted to get out into the community and provide suicide prevention awareness trainings and other mental health trainings to teach people to lead through a mental health lens. We wanted to make resources more accessible and reduce barriers, maintain a 45-minute average response time to people who are in crisis. And through all of this, we aim to prevent or avoid unnecessary emergency department visits and decrease inpatient psychiatric hospitalizations, especially for our youth. So this year, our HOPE line received over 10,000 calls, which means that we are getting out there to people and letting them know about this line. That's an incredible number. We're so happy about that because, with that, if you tell a story through the numbers, when we receive over 10,000 calls a year, it means that our clinicians are being dispatched into the community. A real person answers the phone, a local person. This year we were able to hire one bilingual person on our team, and they're meeting people where they're at, in their homes, in the community, in the schools, at their jobs perhaps. And when we do that, we see a 95% ER emergency department diversion rate. So if you call the HOPE Center, we're very likely to keep you out of an unnecessary ER visit. And then we estimate a cost savings of over a million dollars to our healthcare systems because of that. When we do respond into the community, if safety is a factor, we oftentimes respond, or we will always respond with law enforcement. But we're happy to say that it's one of our goals to keep law enforcement in the line of duty. And so, 88% of the time, an Aspen Hope Center clinician is primary on responding on scene, which means we can release law enforcement back into the community. And we were able to attend 22, or we provided 22 mental health trainings to Garfield County residents, and businesses, and we attended 27 Garfield County mental health events this year, supporting suicide awareness. Other accomplishments with our crisis team that you helped us achieve this year, we're able to operate with a fully staffed team of 17 clinicians and peer support specialists. We've been able to stay on call, uninterrupted services all year, and we have three clinicians every single day that are able to respond into our entire region. For everyone that calls the Hope Center and receives an evaluation, we follow up with them on average four times. So they're receiving additional services and access to care to places like Pathfinders or WayOut. And we reduced our response time from 45 minutes to 38 minutes this year with the additional staff. Once we see a client or an individual, we spend an hour and a half with them on scene. And 67% of our time is serving Garfield County residents. Some of the significant outcomes this year are aligned with what we see with the Colorado-- or with 988. And we see that 26 to 35 still represents the largest share of crisis evaluations. And while the next number I'm going to tell you is quite lower, it's still important and something for us to all be thinking about. We provided 40 evaluations to young children, 6 to 11, this year. Yeah, I'll just-- what's going on in the middle schools is there is a mental health crisis in the middle schools. And it has to do with-- a lot of it has-- and they're interconnected to some extent. And I'm talking about suicide prevention and connected via, I think, social media. Yeah. I figured if you want to touch on that. I agree with you. We have seen an increase in crisis response and overall mental health needs in our middle schools. And that could be attributed to social media and the use. And I think there's a number of factors that could-- that could put students-- It's a tough age. For one thing, it's a really tough age. It really is. Yeah. Young children, young adults. And our families in our area are-- they're working really hard. Yeah. And so I think it puts strain on the family for multiple reasons as well as their children. And so we work really hard in our schools to maintain that open door. And again, that service in the schools is at no cost to individuals or families, which could potentially place an even higher financial strain on the families as well. And it's keeping kids in school so they can access services without having to leave school. We really couldn't do our job without our local police officers and our sheriff's office. And it was really nice to hear from both of-- from Carbondale Police Department and from GARCO Sheriff's Office some of the feedback they gave us, letting us know that the Hope Center has always been there for them and they continue-- we continue to be a trusted provider. And with that, thank you. And do you have any questions? Yeah, I do. Just a few. You're 95% of the emergency department diversion rate. Do you want to touch on that? Yeah, absolutely. So what that means is that when someone calls the 24/7 confidential Hope Line, that we're able to stabilize the crisis outside of the emergency department. And sometimes we're not. And that's when a higher level of care is needed and that's why it's so important to have our emergency rooms available and why it's even more important to have a local inpatient psychiatric care. And that's why it's so important to have our emergency rooms available and why it's even more important to have a local inpatient psychiatric care. And that's why it's so important to have our emergency rooms available. And that's why it's so important to have our emergency rooms available. And that's why it's so important to have our emergency rooms available. And that's why it's more important to have a local inpatient psychiatric hospital now in the Eagle Valley available to our -- Especially since Grand Junction shut down, so -- Yes. Yeah. The timing was interesting last year. Okay. And you started with -- really, the Hope Center started as a suicide call line to some extent way, way back, so -- That's correct. And that has increased now to a call line. Not just suicide, but for any kind of mental health. That's right. So in our organization, we say that we do not define the crisis. And so when someone calls us, it could be for anything and we'll still go out and see them. And sometimes we don't always have to dispatch ourselves into the community. We can talk to someone on the phone as well. And with 988, it's also been an addition to our services in this region. And it can also act as a talk line. And someone can stay on the phone for maybe 30 minutes or longer with 988, where we use the Hope Line as an emergent -- urgent line, similar to how you would think about 911. So we don't spend a lot of time talking on the phone with people, but we might spend up to 30 minutes trying to resolve something that can be in connecting people to resources. Okay, thank you. I had the same question, Tom, so I think for asking that. Mike, anything more? Tough job. Tough job. Great job. All three -- yeah, all three of our Human Service Commission groups that are in front of us today have tough jobs and doing wonderful jobs. So thanks, Aaron. Thank you. Thank you, Aaron. Appreciate it. Back to you, Mr. Jarman. Thanks, Aaron. Thank you. You bet. So finally, this morning, we have a presentation for Pathfinders. And this is Allison, Daly Director. Hi, Allison. Hi, Allison. Good morning, Allison. Good morning, Allison. Welcome to the Department of Health. Thank you. Thank you, Aaron. Thank you, Aaron. I appreciate it. Back to you, Mr. Jarman. Thanks, Aaron. Thank you. You bet. So finally, this morning, we have a presentation for Pathfinders. And this is Allison, Daly Director. Hi, Allison. Good morning, Allison. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you guys so much. We appreciate the work you do. Thank you. And, Tom, thank you so much for advocating for us for this larger grant. Yeah, we got you. It really means a lot. It makes a difference to get you into the larger grants. Thank you. Well, it means a lot to us. Good. So thank you. Thank you so much. So from the report, you can see that we are -- so Pathfinders provides free counseling counseling for grief, loss, and illness within schools. And with adults, we have a system set up where they can receive up to three free sessions. And then after that, we ask them to contribute based on a copay, based on what they can afford. So that can mean $5. It just -- we want them to participate in the counseling process. So most especially we find with our cancer patients, when people have a serious illness, if they've got a lot of medical bills, they cannot participate as much financially. We just ask that if they're able to, that they, you know, contribute to the counseling that they're receiving. And we work quite a bit -- we get quite a bit with the Hope Center counselors that are in the schools. A lot of times they're the ones who will refer. They'll say, "We have someone who's got a, you know, serious -- either the parent has a serious illness or there's been a death within the family." And then they work with our school-based counselor to find the right counselor for them at the school. And we do primarily -- most of our work actually is in -- I think it's 70 -- 73% is in Garfield County. And, you know, like right now, you know, what's been really beautiful is talking about -- I always love stories because I feel like they tell so much. And we did -- you probably saw from our last newsletter -- we did an article on the Nislandic family and working with -- with their family after a loss. And what was beautiful was that in the work with them, like I would say, we went up and we actually got on the horses and did a lot of therapy while riding. And so we meet people where they're at. It's not just in an office or in a school. It's really about meeting people in their environment. Right now we have a family who -- the mother has two young children and she has stage four cancer. So we're working with the mother and father and then we work with the two kids in the schools. And our -- the counselor is going to be willing to meet with them throughout the summer, you know, for the kids, because they're going through a lot as a result of this -- of this illness. So, you know, there's -- there's death that we work with and then also with all sorts of serious illnesses. So we've stayed really, really busy and we're very proud of what we do. Okay. Well, I appreciate the -- especially the work you do within our schools when there's been a death in -- in the school with the -- with the students and how that really can hit an entire community, an entire school. And I know you've done that and you continue to do that. So thank you for that. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Will? No. You have great work. Thank you. It's tough work. Yeah. It's really tough work. I love the fact you said you meet people where they're at. I think that's huge. It really is. You know, I think that that's -- that's the key to everything is that we -- I feel like we go above and beyond to -- to not have barriers. You know, that -- because when somebody dies, especially when there's a death, everything is stripped bare and they need to -- to be met in a place that feels comfortable to them. And sometimes an office is not the best place to do that. Right. Yeah. Thank you. Mr. Sandson. Tough. Tough job. And thanks for doing what you do. Thank you. Absolutely. And I know personally of people that you have helped. And they say they're very grateful for the help that you have given them at their time of need. Thank you. Thanks so much. Thank you. Thank you, Allison. Yeah, thank you. Mr. Jarman, back to you. Okay. Thank you. Yes, next -- switching gears here a little bit -- serving as the Board of Human Services. Sharon Longhurst-Pritt, your DHS Director, is here to present her report and a couple of action items. Good morning, Sharon. A few items this morning on the Board report. As always, the EFT and the EBT disbursement is first for the month of April 2026. Client and provider disbursements for allocated programs totaled $444,227.79. Client benefits for food assistance and LEAP totaled $724,166.72. And the total EFT and EBT disbursements for April came to $1,168,594.51. And a copy of the certification summaries included in the Board report. Gentlemen, any questions? Yes, sir. No. This is an action item. I have a question on the allocated programs. Why is it zero for home care allowance? There weren't any disbursements. That would be why it's zero. And I'd have to get more information to understand why it was zero. I can do that. Yes. Yes. Yes. Usually, that's not the case. Correct. And I just don't know what happened. Correct. Okay. Mr. Chair, I move that we approve the total EFT/EBT disbursements for $1,168,594.51.6. Allow the Chair to sign. All right. Okay. Any other discussion? Call a question in favor. Aye. Okay. Great. All right. Second item here is consideration and approval of the county-to-county sale of Colorado Childcare Assistance Program allocation funds to Eagle County for $150,000. Enclosed in the Board's packet is a letter to the Colorado Department of Early Childhood indicating the approval of the sale of Colorado Childcare Assistance Program allocation funds to Eagle County for $150,000. Enclosed in the Board's packet is a letter to the Colorado Department of Early Childhood indicating the approval of the sale of Colorado Childcare Assistance Program allocation funds to Eagle County in the amount of $150,000. This sale includes Eagle County's agreement to accept the maintenance of effort, the MOE, attached to this fund. This will relieve Garfield County the responsibility of paying the MOE an allocation that will not be expended. The estimated amount of savings for Garfield County is $16,000. Questions, gentlemen? I think that's a good question. I think that's a good question. Why are we not spending that $150,000? Well, I think that there's a few reasons on why we're not spending it. Our allocation is larger. You know, we don't -- Ours is larger than Eagle County's because they're about the same population. Yeah. Their setup is a little bit different than ours. This year -- well, first of all, let me answer your first question about why we're not spending. Because they're providers -- you know, there's not enough providers in the area that accept CCAP. And it also has to do with the number of individuals that are enrolled in CCAP. And so with those two, you know, areas, that's one reason why our allocation isn't spent. Moving forward, we're looking at -- we -- the deputy director that I'm proposing be put into place is going to be working with the childcare consortia -- they're called the confluence -- Yes, they're named -- Right. -- because we're part of that continuum of care. Right. And so, you know, CCAP will hopefully get more utilized once the confluence gets up and started. And, you know, we're part of that whole continuum of childcare. Like I had mentioned when I was here a few months ago, we're working more directly with YAMPA to try and make sure that that -- there's a more streamlined process for the, you know, the youth that are attending their programs there. Because they can get access to the funds also. And so just trying to be a little bit more robust in that program area. During COVID, we didn't need as many individuals in there. We didn't have, you know, people that were working during that period of time. So we reallocated some staff out of that program area and into eligibility. And now we're taking a look at that and taking a look at moving a person back into that program area to help out with the applications. And also with doing some outreach in regards to providers. So -- Okay. That's a good explanation. Hopefully that works with the confluence, which I call some names. Okay. Any other questions, gentlemen? No. This is -- My apologies for interrupting. The letter that we have here -- I saw that. Yeah. I definitely saw that. That's right. Yeah. I do want to have that corrected, actually. Your last -- his last name is spelled wrong. Oh, I'm sorry. There's an I instead of a Y at the end of my hand. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. Okay. All right. Mm-hmm. Okay. Oh, that -- Ski instead of sky. Okay. This is an action item, gentlemen. Mr. Chair, I move the approval of the county to county scale of Colorado Child Care Assistance Program Allocation Funds to Eagle County for $150,000. Allow the Chair to sign. Second. Okay. Any other discussion? Call the motion. All in favor? Aye. Okay. We have one -- One other item. One other item. And then the program reports also. Yeah. Lori, do you want to come up on this, or is that necessary? I want that. Hey, if you don't mistake. Yeah. I'd ask Lori to be here just in case the board had questions on the next topic. So -- Hi, Lori. Good morning. Good morning. This feels good. Yeah. Don't get too cozy, the two of you. Okay. All right. All right. The third item here is consideration of potential approval for wage assignment above midpoint on employee promotion. So over the past few weeks, interviews have been conducted for the DHS Deputy Director position. An internal applicant has been selected for this position. The employee chosen for the position of Deputy Director is above the entry to midpoint level of the pay grade. So the department is seeking approval to offer a wage at above the midpoint for this promotion. And this isn't anything new to us. Correct. We get three or four of these requests a year. Lori, do you want to touch on this at all? Well, I would just say that Sharon reached out to us, and we looked through the pay and so forth, and presented her with two options, and she chose one of those. So we support the option that she chose. Great. I feel like we've ran into this, and Lori, you can speak to this, too. Correct me if I'm wrong. But now that we have all these additional pay grades in place, you know, it tends to, you know, just happen a little bit more often maybe than it did before. You know, where individuals are moving, you know, through the -- it's just a little bit more condensed in the way of the pay grades. And so it seems to, I don't know, happen a little bit more since we've introduced the new pay grade. That's supposed to be the opposite of that. It's supposed to be how that works. Yep, employees do, in some of the pay grades, move faster to the midpoint and/or the maximum just because of the spread out, because there are more pay grades in general. Okay. All right. That makes sense. Okay. I think this is a -- thank you for hiring within that -- Yes. -- we have a qualified applicant. Yeah. They're here. They know our culture. They have housing. It does make a difference. So. Gentlemen, question -- more questions? Did we get any paperwork on that? No. I didn't see it. So I didn't know the specifics. So I appreciate it. Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve the wage assignment above midpoint for the employee promotion in the assigned -- or the specific position as outlined for us. Thank you. Okay. Call a question. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Okay. Got it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. No health reports. So you don't have any program updates, Sharon, from the Board this morning? No. Okay. Unless there's -- they're in our packet. Correct. Unless you won't discuss it. So anything that was in the packet. So we're good. All right. Very good. Thank you, Sharon. Thank you. Yep. You got it. Lastly this morning, yes, there aren't any Board of Health agenda topics for you this morning. So moving on into action items. I think this is a good -- this is a good place for us to take a -- Take a break? 10-minute break. Okay. And then we'll get back to action items. Okay. All right. All right. We're back on the air. We are back in session. And we are to you, Mr. Jarman, on action items. Yes. Thank you. Three action items this morning. And the first one is -- this is a request for consideration of the amount of water to be leased and approved. And allow the Chair Pro Tem to sign the 2026 Water Lease Agreement between Garfield County and the West Divide Water Conservancy -- or, excuse me, Conservation District. And let me tee this up just with a couple of comments. And I'll just -- Thank you, Mr. Jarman. I'm going to need to recuse myself because I am a Board member of the West Divide Water Conservation District. So I'm going to step out and leave it to my two fellow commissioners. Very good. Thank you, Commissioner, for doing that. Just a couple of points. I wanted to share this for the commissioners. This is the third -- or at least I think the third time this has been in front of you recently here with multiple requests for the water that you lease out of -- or have a contract for. It's 400 acre feet out of the Brudeye Reservoir. And to bring everybody up to speed to where we are now, there is -- from your last Board meeting, you had agreed to allocate 200 acre feet to West Divide Water Conservancy District. As you remember, Silt Water Conservancy District was also here. They originally or initially did have an ask. They have pulled that ask at this point. Your price point that you publicly provided was $84.95. That has been your rate certainly as of last year as well. And those were dollars that -- or that was the rate that was charged to the CWCB for the waters that you -- at least to them, up to 350 acre feet, for the 15 mile stretch west of Grand Junction. And so back to forward to today, the Board had made that commitment to West Divide. I wanted to let you know that Mr. Potter is online or was online. He is. He's still on. Okay. So I imagine he's here representing West Divide Water Conservancy District -- Conservation District. And we have reached out to the attorney for that group. He's also online. Mr. Olszewski is online too. Thank you. And so the instrument used for this is what you have in your packet. And a couple of points here is we had talked about it before. This instrument called the Water Use Agreement, the high-level terms are at least for one year at $84.95 per acre foot, at 200 acre feet, which is a blank that is left there. But I also wanted to point out that I believe there's a typo in the recitals under D that should say, actually the county has a perpetual contract interest in 400 acre feet, not 350 acre feet. Oh, yes. And not 350 acre feet. Okay. And so the matter before the Board today is to see if this instrument works for you. I wanted to also invite the county attorney. She worked very closely with the attorney for West Divide Water Conservation District. I'm putting this together. This is the same instrument you've used with the CWC. And I'm putting this together. This is the same instrument you've used with the CWC. And so I think I'll stop there, but I wanted to give you that at a high level. Again, Silt Water Conservation District is not here. They're not asking for dollars. You will remember that CWCB, of course, would entertain shares should the Board want to do that. We have let them know what the current status is. Yeah. So just so you do know that. And I think I'll stop there and see if the county attorney had something else to offer. And I think I'll stop there and see if the county attorney had something else to offer. And I'll just let them know what the current status is. Yeah. So just so you do know that. And I think I'll stop there and see if the county attorney had something else to offer. The only other thing I was going to offer was that in speaking with Mr. Olszewski, he did say that they've been working with the Division 5 Water Engineer. And so the Division 5 Water Engineer is on board and as well as the Bureau of Reclamation. Part of the county's contract with the Bureau of Rec is that we have to get their approval prior to, you know, the lease going into effect. And it sounds like they're already working on that. But I've drafted a letter to the Bureau of Reclamation just for -- to ensure that we have the proper documentation so that the lease can be effectuated. And with that, I think I would -- unless there are questions for us, then I would turn it over to -- Madam Counselor, I did have a question. And it was in this -- on the price and payment procedure. Yes. It's a -- West Divide Water Conservation District so notified a county regarding the number of acre feet it is called for. But I'm assuming they're going to use all 200 acre feet. Well, so one of the things is that they may be asking for more. And so that was one of the things is that we have them here today to see if they're asking for more. And so they may or they may not. And so I think that's probably a question more to them. Yeah. But -- but -- but each time, I mean, when they call for it, they don't notify us when they're calling for 50 acre feet. Yeah, no, no, no, no. That would be after they have done all their calls. Mm-hmm. So that they know. Mm-hmm. So that they know. And that's a good question, Commissioner, too. So in years past, when your relationship was singularly with the CWCB, your lease to them was up to 350 acre feet. Mm-hmm. They have in the past not always used up to that full amount. And so they would use maybe it's 200 or 250. Mm-hmm. And then we would certainly bill accordingly at that price point. Mm-hmm. So they -- it was an up-to scenario for them as needed basis. And then what happened to the -- if they used 200, what happened to the other 200? It didn't get used. It wasn't -- it was -- it was not used. Okay. Even though they had the ability to do it. Okay. So I just wanted to frame that for you. Okay. Yeah. So maybe it should -- it should say regarding the total number of acre feet. I agree. But yes. And so with that, I don't know if Mr. Olszewski or Mr. Potter wants to speak on behalf of the West Divide. They might need to use their hands so we know who's going to -- There we go. There we go. Good morning. Good morning. We can hear you now. Okay. Yes. Our -- after our last meeting with you folks, when Silt was also there, it was uncertain exactly what the Silt's situation was, if they were going to require or need any water or feel compelled to purchase any part of your 400 acre feet. But my board, we had an emergency meeting on the 6th of May and they've authorized us to enter into this agreement that has been crafted by your attorney and our attorney, Ed Olszewski. And we agreed and would like to purchase the -- or at least the 200 acre feet of water that we discussed with you initially. In addition to that, after learning that Silt perhaps wasn't interested in it or they weren't sure about it, my board has also authorized us to ask -- For the additional 185 acre feet to be held in -- in reserve depending on what happens with use in our augmentation programs and so forth. So -- And that could be structured. I think Chris Treese was with me if you'll recall the last time that we met with you and -- And he suggested not unlike Mr. Jarman has indicated that the CWCB didn't always use the full amount. We potentially would not totally use that additional 185 if you so desired to lease it to us. But we want and need the 200 primary amount that we talked about and were prepared to pay the 84.95 an acre foot for it. So that's our position. And by the way -- As nitpickers would go -- We are a conservancy district rather than a conservation district. Oh. Did I say conservation? I probably did. Thank you. There's too many acronyms there. Yes, I know. Can't keep track of them. But today we're talking about the 200. And I think we need to have further discussions on that remainder. And I know we've -- myself and the other commissioners probably ought to have a discussion about that. Because -- and I think, you know, with silt there, but if we can -- and this is just me speaking in my opinion -- but if we can help out our ag producers, we want to do that too. It just might be a cost. So I think today the ask is for 385. And so I don't know -- Does it ask for 385 or 200? Well, it's for 385 because -- because silt has essentially said they didn't -- they didn't need the addition or they weren't going to take the 185. So I think that's what's before you. Are you thinking there might be -- That's why we didn't fill in the -- that's why we didn't fill in, in the agreement, the amount of the acre-feet. Because we knew that they may ask for more. So if you need to have that discussion, you know, right now, unless you, you know, wanted to invite silt back -- we could do 200 acre-feet now and then invite silt back later, but I don't -- today the ask is 385, is my understanding. Yeah, well -- So my question to you is, are you feeling that there may be others that might be interested in the 185 as well as west divide? Yeah, I'm not that comfortable doing the full amount today. All right. I thought we were -- I thought we were still talking about the original ask of 200, not the additional. Okay. And, Commissioner, well, that is West Divides' position, is we are -- we want to affirm and get in place that 200 acre-feet is a minimum. And if the 185 is available and you have no other need or use for it or any other people that are interested in it, West Divides would like to be in line for that water. Makes sense. So, when you speak of agricultural -- protecting agricultural interests, I would remind you guys that that's exactly what West Divides does. Yeah. -- by our devised augmentation plans, they have to protect all senior water users or the plan does not work. And that's what we're doing is protecting agricultural producers with having adequate augmentation supplies for our program. Yeah. I understand that. I was speaking more of the ag producers on the, you know, the silt project water. Well, and I just -- Yeah. Sure not. -- the only other thing I wanted to point out is in our Bureau of Rec contract, you know, we are leasing municipal -- -- there's a specific definition of municipal and industrial uses. And it does say, you know, water by municipalities, industrial users, commercial rec industries. And then it goes on to say, and other water user entities not engaged in commercial agricultural production. So, just, you know, maybe the agriculture you're talking about is just residential agriculture people producing for themselves and not commercial agricultural production because that doesn't fall under our water contract. And, Commissioner, if I could add just one -- maybe a question for Mr. Potter and Mr. Treese and maybe Mr. Olszewski. With West Divide within your water portfolio with the augmentation plans that I'm familiar with, in fact, live in one of them, I believe, I thought your water service, so to speak, also supports domestic well use. Mm-hmm. And what you just said was you're in the business of agriculture. And so can you describe maybe a little more deeply what your augmentation plans will do with this water? Well, this water will be plugged into our augmentation plans and used to protect those domestic wells you're talking about and other -- in some instances, other wells. We do have some commercial customers. But by a large extent, our augmentation programs provide water to augment domestic well users across our various service areas. Rural Garfield County, pretty much, yeah. Yeah, that's right. And so -- and so forgive me, but I think -- isn't that demarked by Area A versus Area B contracts? Can you speak to that, too? Yeah, we have -- Area A was a line drawn years ago by my predecessor, Carl Burnclaw, who was president of the West Divide District at the time, and Orlandville and Russell George. And they sat down with a map and drew an area -- a line along the Colorado River Basin on both sides of it that went -- denoted the -- the primary calling structures on all tributaries. And that's what kind of defines the area line, which has been adjusted over the years by Division of Water Resources. And in some cases, caused some -- some issues. One being the -- the issue -- I don't know how familiar you are with the Crystal River situation, but that's exactly what happened up there. And we ended up with some orphan -- uh -- contractees out in no man's land. But that gets more into the technical aspects of things. Yes, the area -- the area A line denotes along a watershed, and there's more than one area A line, because there are different watersheds that we operate augmentation plans within. But, uh -- the area A line denotes the -- the -- the -- the -- the -- physical location of wells that are drilled that we can augment from -- uh -- that program. If you're in an area B situation, then we can't protect -- which is outside the area A line -- we cannot protect that well from a local call. But we can supply the water for the general call on the Colorado River or whatever tributary might be involved. That makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. That's great. Thank you for explaining that. That was important. Yes. Okay. So what -- what I'm hearing here is we definitely want to, uh -- honor what we said we would and -- -- sell them the 200 acre feet. So I would move that we do such with the understanding that, uh -- I -- I think it's very safe to say we will be selling the other 180, 185 -- whatever the case may be -- -- acre feet. -- acre feet. And, uh, definitely we'll see who that will go to. But we know that West of Ide is definitely interested in that as well. Yeah. And there'll be plenty of time to -- to meet that out. But for today, we'll -- we'll do the 200 and face the other later. Okay. So that's my motion. Is that -- okay. So moved, Satch. Second. All the questions. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Okay. I will -- I'll just -- I need -- I'll need to fill in those couple of blanks in the contract. I'll get that to you today, to the Chairman Pro Tem. And then I will forward that on to Mr. Olszewski and Mr. Potter. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you, Commissioner Zaya. This is Ed Olszewski. I am here today observing. Uh, Mr. Potter did an excellent job of explaining where West of Ide is coming from. Just so you know, West of Ide does meet this Thursday, the 21st, and it will be, uh, sure to get that agreement executed and back to the county. So thank you so much for all your assistance and cooperation. And thank you to Mr. German and Ms. Beatty as well. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. We appreciate it. Thanks, John. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. Next on your agenda this morning, this is a request of a budget. Oh, let's get Commissioner Zankowski back. Get your full board back. How about that? Moving along. No, Heather? Yeah, he's coming. Okay, great. Thank you, Mike. That's exactly where I was headed. And they-- Very well, Mike. Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. Thank you, Barry. Hi, Mike. Next action item, Mr. German. You bet. Thank you. Second action item this morning, Commissioner. This is a request of a budget supplement of $100,000 for the Sheriff's Office litigation, and County Attorney Heather Beatty is here to present. That's right, gentlemen. And so we are asking--my office is asking for a budget supplement of $100,000 in order to defend federal litigation against two deputies at the sheriff's office. And so we are asking--my office is asking for a budget supplement of $100,000 in order to defend federal litigation against two deputies at the sheriff's office. And so this is for expenses and perhaps a settlement offer, so. Right. Mm-hmm. Questions, gentlemen? No. That's something that needs to be done. Any general fund submitted? Yeah. Okay. Any public comment? Okay. This is an action item. Mr. Chair, I move that we-- Okay. Okay. Any public comment? Okay. This is an action item. Mr. Chair, I move that we-- Okay. Okay. Okay. I'll call the motion. All in favor? Aye. All right. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate that. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Jarman. Okay. Thank you. Yes. Third action item this morning. This is to consider approving the Garfield County Airport Commercial Ground Lease for Parts A7 with Vantage RIL2 LLC. Sam Carver, Airport Director, and Ryan Maxwell are here. And I'm so sorry I forget your name. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And welcome. Thank you. Thank you. And this also has to do with our attorney's office. Yeah. We'll have you comment as well on this. Okay. And I'd like to thank you for the question. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And I'd like to thank you for the question. Thank you. Thank you. And I'd like to thank you for the question. Thank you. And I'd like to thank you for the question. Thank you. And I'd like to thank you for the question. Thank you. Thank you. And I'd like to thank you for the question. Thank you. - We'll have you comment as well and I do appreciate the cover letter that you provided and your staff provided. - Oh that was actually Sam. Sam did the cover letter. - Okay well I appreciate you covering the cover letter. - So it's to you. We'll let you get started. - Okay. Good morning commissioners. So this is the request for airport commercial ground lease for parcel A7 with Vantage Reel 2 LLC. This goes back to when we put this out for our RFCP back in the fall of 2024. And this will be a parcel that is combined with the other parcels for the overall development by the FBO Vantage. That includes A2, A5, and A6. So this will be a commercial hanger that will be developed on this parcel. It will be a valuable additional infrastructure for the airport. It matches our master plan. It will be increase our annual revenue. So we there was some discussion about the timeline. They will be have requested to start on a ramp first. So with that in mind, because that will be a benefit to the airport also to have extra ramp space before the Aspen closure. And we did have a lot of discussion about the airport. And we did have a lot of discussion about the provision to do lease mortgage. So there's a lot of time spent working that out. But we believe we've come up with something that works for a lot of time. I appreciate your comments in here on that. So we made it fairly clear. Yeah. So with that said, staff is happy to bring this to the board and recommends approval. So we'd be happy to answer any questions. Thank you. Ryan. Yeah. Thank you very much. Ryan Maxwell, CEO of Vantage. I'd like to start by thanking this board, Fred and his team, Sam, especially Heather and her team. We recognize that this was a major change in structural language of these leases. And they have done a great job working in good faith with our legal team to come up with what we believe is a win-win scenario. We feel strongly that this will encourage future investment for your airport and certainly allow us to continue to invest. You know, A7 is going to be in addition to the $53 million we are already spending. And we are very thrilled that we got this accomplished at this time. It still allows us the time necessary to put this ramp in place well ahead of the next busy season and the Aspen shutdown. It's coming up quickly. The Aspen shutdown. It's becoming very real very quickly. Yes. And so again, we just want to thank everybody for the time and effort spent on this endeavor. Okay. Thank you. Kyle, anything, Dan? Nothing further to add this time. We're sharing what that's happening. So to you, Heather. Yeah. And I do think Sam did a good job of really laying out exactly, you know, what the terms are. The ramp is required to go in essentially within the next 18 months. It sounds like that's, you know, first on the agenda. And then after that, the timeline is about eight years for the hangar that they plan to put up, the hangar in any office space or office space. And then after that, the shop that's actually supposed to go there, according to the development plan that was approved. And then the leasehold financing, as you gentlemen know, yes, this was part of what took so long in the negotiations. And this is a policy change for the board to allow this leasehold mortgage financing. And in this particular lease, you know, we have kept it to the leasehold estate. And so that essentially means whatever is on this piece of ground and the business valuation of that. And so there's a very detailed process laid out in the lease that we're comfortable with recommending the board approve at this time. And it's still just that single asset financing, not the cross-collateralization that we had been in discussions with. So I wanted to just make sure that you understood that it's in line with what the board has given direction to negotiators to draft. Thank you. Mr. Sapson? I'm just pleased this bunch. I had faith that we could work it out, and I'm glad we did. So thank you. And I want to go forward. Just want to keep moving. Keep moving. Keep going. Any other comments? No, it is great work. I know way more about leasehold mortgage than I've ever done. Ryan, anything more from your side? No, I will just state that so long as the commission approves this, you know, at a future point, we'd certainly like to come back and have the same consideration as we've signaled all along on the existing A2, 5, and 6. One step at a time. One at a time. Yeah. Okay. We will ask for any public comment. I don't see any online, any other public comment. This is an action item, gentlemen. Can I have one question? Yes, please. And so I guess I'll direct this at you, Sam, but on the key lease terms where it said the minimum required improvements is $3 million, that is for the -- That's the minimum. That's the minimum. Yeah. But is that pretty much a -- The ramp is going to -- The ramp is going to take that, yes. That's the ramp. Okay. Well, overall, the minimum is $3 million, but it's pretty clear they're going to spend well about that. Yeah. Okay. All right. That's all I have. So I'm going to go ahead and do that. This is an action item. Mr. Chairman, I would move that we approve the Garfield County Airport commercial ground lease for parcel A7 with advantage RL2 LLC and allow the chair to sign. Thank you. Okay. I'll call a motion. All in favor? Aye. You got it, gentlemen. Thank you. Thank you. And thank legal once again. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Fred. Yes, sir. Thank you. Last action item before we get to the presentation items. Nope. This is the presentation item. Excuse me. Yes. We are at the last of the -- of the -- of the -- -- portion of the agenda. Last but not least. So this morning we have an update. As you're very well aware, we have some work to do on County Road 108 Bridge, also known as the CRMS Bridge. Yeah. It was closed and now it's back to one lane. Yeah. So I'm interested to find out what's going on. Yes. So, yeah, thank you. That's what this update is for. So I'll turn it over to Mr. Hanna. Yeah. Thank you very much. Thank you, Commissioner. So, you know, we understand this is an important thoroughfare for our constituents, so we wanted to make sure and give you an update and let you know where we are in the process. About three weeks ago, we developed a sinkhole on the bridge that was discovered. And so what has happened is the decking of the bridge is separating from the girders, the weld spots, as you can see from the picture on your screen. You can see where they've rusted through. And basically, you can stand out there and if you jump up and down, Dale was jumping up and down, and he could make that -- That deck move. Deck move, yeah. So it's basically free-floating at this point right now. So last week, we were able to rip out the north section of the bridge lane to see what the damage was. This is what we discovered. It was obviously worse than what we had originally thought. So basically, the whole deck's going to have to be removed and replaced. So it's more than two weeks then. Yes. Yes. Yes. So that's why we wanted to give you an update. Last week, Tom, our contractor, was looking at decking material. At that point, our suppliers were saying it was six to eight weeks just to even get the decking. Through his great work, he has found a supplier that, if we give them approval today, can have that decking material here in two weeks. So the six to eight weeks now, just for the delivery of the material, we have an option to move that to two weeks. Thank you. Thank you. Right. I'm quite disappointed when we first heard that six to eight week. How about the girders? Are they all right? Right now, we think so. But until we get that decking off, we don't -- Otherwise, we're going to build a new bridge, right? Hopefully not. Hopefully not. Yeah, hopefully not. That's the plan. We'll have the decking off ASAP. And the girders appear to be okay from the bottom, but of course we can't see the tops of them. So there's a little bit of movement in our court to do some work on the tops of the girders, sandblasting, plating, or something on there. But according to the bridge report, they should be okay. So we have looked at a couple of different options. Our recommendation for the option is to put a little bit higher gauge steel decking on the bridge itself. That will allow us to work on half the bridge itself. If we were to replace the existing gauge deck, we would have to rip the whole thing off and replace it. Our engineers looked at the option of just getting a little bit heavier duty, and we can work one half at a time, which will allow that one travel lane at least to stay open a majority of the time. Continuously. Yeah. We have to rip the concrete barriers off where the guardrails are. So at some point we'll obviously have to shut down the pedestrian bridge as well. But we've been working very... The river is so low, you can walk across it, so we don't need a faster. So he found a different option. I'll let you talk about that, Tom. We did, Friday, I talked to Bob Odo, he's our engineer on this, and threw some quick moves last week. We discovered the problems on Wednesday by Friday. We had plenty of discussions on what we could do. Our original thought was we had to take the entire deck off both curves, the walkway, everything, and then start fresh. Bob came up with the design for us to leave the walkway and the north curve. It's the taller curve if you've been up there. Leave that one in place. Take the deck out starting at that curve. Put a new beam system along. Add a whole other beam system next to that north curve. And leave the walkway in place through the whole job and that north curve. Then replace everything across the deck. So our plan was to leave the south side of the bridge paved as it is. We've got cattle moves here in the next couple weeks. Are they going to be able to go across one lane? They can go across one lane. We talked to them last week, so it'll accommodate them. We can do the north half from the curb to the center line, leaving the asphalt on for several weeks. Get that north half done. We could possibly make the north half temporarily accessible, emergency vehicles, what not. With this heavy decking, we can deck it, put some type of filler in the grooves before we pave it, and then it's still usable for emergency vehicles or anything of that nature. And then do the south half because we're going to want to work off that half to this half. So it does slow things up. It's a little more expensive to do it in two halves, but it does leave the thing accessible. Yeah, it keeps our constituency happy. Happy. As happy as can be. Happy. And we discussed that heavily. Tearing that north side off was very involved, and it was going to be ugly. And the walkway redesigned everything. It would have gotten virtually out of hand to take the whole thing off. So Bob did us a good -- gave us a good design to leave that in place and move forward. A little more technical, but I think we can do it. Yeah. So we, again, looking at all options, and things are developing almost every day as far as what we can do. The cattle producer, he has 320 pairs and 11 bulls he needs to move over. We're in contact with him. He actually has a pasture that he can stage. So working with him on schedule of the school, obviously, that's right there. School's about to end. So we are working with all of our partners through this process, but just trying to get it open as soon as possible. So this morning we do need an action from you, from the commissioners, to approve up to $650,000 of funds for emergency bridge repairs. What that allows us to do is to get approval so we can order that decking material today because they are running a production of that decking material. If not, then we lose that window and we're back to the 6 to 8 week. So it's 600 -- did you say 650K? Yes. And what was our -- What was our -- 130. 130, yeah. So this would be a purchase -- I'm sorry -- out of your -- If you decided to go this way from your road and bridge fund directly -- I mean, this is -- I mean, it's not an option. We don't have an option. Yeah, you don't have an option. It's kind of tough. Well, we do, but we don't want that. Yeah. We'll be getting a lot of phone calls. Yeah, they're the opposite -- The good thing is this will extend the bridge life, so it's not -- it's not -- we're almost going to have a new bridge, so it's not money that we're throwing away. It's just going to affect our -- As long as we have the life span in the Gerners, there's a 50 bridge, correct? Yeah. In the 1950s? Well, that was my question. When -- how old is the bridge? The bridge is built in 1950. It was redone about, I don't know, 20 years ago. Yeah, it's about right. About 20 years -- 16 years ago, 20 years ago, because I remember having to go through Aspen Glen to get around. Well, just a side note on that -- on that rebuild, this decking material that was put on there is not the correct decking. Okay. Or an HL 20 load in the first place. So my question is -- and I guess you're probably the best one, you're the bridge expert here -- with this modification, renovation, upgrades, so on and so forth, we can anticipate the bridge lasting another -- You should be able to get the life of the girders out of it, whatever the girders last. Which would be -- They've been there 70 years and they're still competent, so I would assume another, who knows, 40, 50 years before you do it again. Okay. Okay. We won't be around. Okay. So -- I'm just curious. Yeah. I would assume -- -- investment there. Yeah. There may be, according to the report -- the bridge report done, possibly some work on the abutments, facing the abutments and sealing them up with a concrete face, possibly, or something of that nature. But it should solve you from a total bridge rebuild, which -- Yeah, and this is a total surprise. The state just did their biannual inspection in September, and they found no -- And that was my next question, is they -- the state goes throughout the entire state. Every two years, they're probably on a year basis. We get half here and half there. So this -- all our bridges get inspected every other year by the state. Yes. Yeah. That's correct. And this was called out on their inspection report as far as the waterproof deck -- or waterproof membrane needing to be applied to the decking. It was called out in their bridge inspection report. So we're obviously going to be doing that now. Just a quick question, if I may, Mr. Chairman. The bridge and parachute -- I think it was inspected last year or next year. Do you know anything about that? Because I've heard people -- I would have to see -- -- question that, and it's -- It's because they want a new bridge. Yeah, I know. But, I mean, it's okay, right? Yep. We're good. Okay. It's okay. Thank you. I can send you that inspection report if you want. Please. It is an emergency request. It's an action item. You're going to have to approve funding. So you -- This would come out of the road and bridge funds? Correct. Reserves. Reserves. Okay. Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve $650,000 for emergency fund day out of the road and bridge. Is it called emergency fund? It's just fine. That would be $650,000 total. It's not -- because we've already approved $130,000. Right. Right. Total. Total. For the pairing of the county road, 108 bridge. Second. For the discussion, do I call a motion? All in favor? Aye. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You keep it open. One lane open, that really helps us. I will -- I've been reading the press releases. They're good on this. And I noticed that the radio station stuff are picking up on it and getting the information out, so -- And we did, after Bob's report, we did take the weight limit down to $24,000 on that bridge. I saw that. Yeah. So that came out of that inspection from Bob. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. And to be clear, we are closing -- we are closing it down for general public while we work. Mm-hmm. How many -- how many day -- how many weeks or days will that be? Um, we're going to leave the -- we're going to leave the south half paved for at least two or three more weeks until I get the fresh decking on the north half, and then there'll be a short time where we totally close it to work on it. So we're still going to need to close things off to work, because we're out on the deck both sides. Right. So basically, it's just to accommodate the cattle movers and emergency vehicles -- Emergency. -- that we are going to divert traffic during this process, so -- But not -- not weeks at a time? Or is it going to be weeks at a time? The first go around -- it's a pretty solid couple, three weeks this first go around. We've got an extensive amount of work to do on that north side to get the new beam work in and get that decking on. I'm hoping the second half, the south half, goes a little quicker. We -- we -- we need to know specifics so we can get that out to the public. Yeah. Yeah. A key messaging component, commissioners, will be really important. We do have our PIO totally connected to all this, as well as variable messaging boards and all the other social media outlets. So we're prepared to make sure we do do that as best we can. Yeah. So people know -- And we need to get, you know -- As far from the Four Mile Valley all the way over. We need to get that -- that sign moved further towards 109. It needs to get moved further towards County Road 154, meaning -- Don't -- they'll let people get halfway down 109 until they see a sign, have to turn around and go back. And that's -- I think that's important. I think we added an additional sign, so I'll check on that. You did have one, but still -- it's still -- it's just by Iron Bridge. So if we can move it on down even after the Hardwick Bridge there, somewhere in there to -- So we -- people can turn -- can stop before they get all the way down there. Yeah. And then maybe we can send out something to the Aspen Glen, Iron Bridge, HOAs on that. Okay. Yeah. We had it closed for a couple days last weekend. Right. It was getting better by the day as they were kind of finding their way out. We got -- we got some nasty grams on that. So we got some -- I know it was -- Yeah. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Let's get her done. Thank you. That concludes your agenda, Commissioner. Thank you. The other word to you for County Attorney Update. Yes. And so the only update I have is that their community development is working on some text amendments to the Land Use Code. They have several text amendments, but the one that I wanted to give you an update about was -- the Article 15 definitions related to our 1041 process. And so I just wanted to let you know that we are getting those updated. Those will be before the Planning Commission on May 27th. And then they will be before this board on June 15th. Do you have a work session on it? There was no planning. They were not planning on having a work session. They were not -- Is it detailed? Is it -- It's not -- there's not a lot of changes. No. I think it's certainly something that can be handled at the -- at a 1 o'clock -- at the 1 o'clock meeting. Yeah. It's not very detailed or controversial. I don't anticipate a whole lot of public comment. Although certainly we did let the city of Glenwood Springs know that we were making these particular changes so that they could weigh in if they wanted. And then just from a calendar perspective, the County Attorney Conference is June 4th and 5th. And so most of the attorneys will be out of the office for June 4th and 5th. But we will -- you know, we're all available by email and cell phones and that kind of thing. But I just wanted to give you that update. And that's all from me. I think we're -- we're at CCI, I believe. Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Mr. Jarrod. Okay. Thank you. Just one update and then I'll work through the calendar. Just want to let the board know we have had a very successful review so far with our internal team on the workforce. And then we have a very successful review. And then we have a very successful review. And then we have a very successful review. And then we have a very successful review. 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Wednesday, also the same day, from 9:00 a.m. I have Commissioner Sampson in mind when I say this, but 9:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. You have your Associated Governments of Northwest Colorado AG&C Board Meeting and EDD Meeting. And that is in rifle at our County Administration Building on the second floor. 9:00 a.m. start there. In the Grand Valley, right? They call that. Monday, May 25th, Garfield County offices are closed. That can be in observance of Memorial Day. The next day, Tuesday, May 26th, we do have our regular elected officials meeting. And Commissioner Sampson has offered and agreed to be the commissioner for the board attending that one. So that's at 2:00 a.m. at the Sheriff's Office. Thursday, May 28th, from 7:30 a.m. to 10:30 a.m., you have your Garfield County Economic Development Meeting. It's the breakfast meeting. That's going to be a presentation by the Center of Excellence. So it should be a good meeting. That's correct. That's exactly right. And timely. So that will be very good. So 7:30 a.m. will be breakfast served as normal. Thursday, May 28th, there is the meet and greet for the Library District Executive Director finalists. What is it? That is Thursday, May 28th. And there's two people from what I saw. Two people from what I saw. Two people from what I saw. Rifle Library. And this is at the -- thank you. It's at the Rifle Library Branch. And that is 5:30 start to 7:00 or so. So flagging that for the commissioners. We'll have it noticed in the event that two of you or more want to go. Also then, right on the heels of that, Monday through Wednesday, June 1st through the 3rd, is your CCI conference, your summer conference at the Keystone. And we do have a meeting on the 1st, but it's just in the morning, and that would allow the three of you to move out of here quickly so you can get over to Keystone. So no afternoon agendas. Also, Tuesday -- we do have it set for Tuesday, June 2nd, and I'm just realizing that this may not work, but the work session -- oh, that's been pushed to the 9th. Excuse me. Yep. Yep, thank you for -- thank you for myself reminding myself on that. I'll say there, though, June 9th. Yeah. And that work session's at the Rifle Annex? No, it's here. Okay. I'm glad you asked that, though. No, it's the 9th at 9:00 a.m. This is Valley Meals and Moore update as well as the update regarding the formation of the Child Care District. Okay, great. As they are in their search process for their director. I'm happy that we get an update on that since it's been passed. Yeah. Tuesday, June 2nd, you also have your regular Fair Board meeting, and that is at the end of the year. It's been -- Yeah. It's been -- It's been -- It's been -- -- And that is at the Rifle Admin Building on the first -- I believe it's the first floor. And that's at 6:00. Monday, June 8th. I wanted to remind the Board that your Board meeting is a remote meeting. That is in Parachute. And that's a 9:00 a.m. start. Parachute Library. Parachute Library. Okay. Parachute Library. Okay. 9:00 a.m. And then the following regular Board meeting for you all, that's the Monday, June 15th. So that's your regular Board meeting. However, we're going to start with the CDOT presentation, 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. Can we get a copy of that letter that CDOT sent to us on the South Bridge? There was a letter that was sent to us. Yes, I can get that to you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah. And then your regular Board meeting commissioners would start at 10:00 a.m. And we will make sure we advertise to the municipalities to make sure they're here. We will stop for -- we need to stop for lunch and then continue on into the afternoon. Okay. But I don't want to work through the lunch period. I don't know how long that will take us, but we will end up into lunch, I'm sure. Yeah. And I was just going to say for that meeting, when we begin at 10:00 a.m., I've requested that we put on the agenda the Federal Mineral Beats meeting presentation. Okay. First thing. First thing. First thing. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, it's going to be a long meeting, and it's going to go in the afternoon. So. Thank you. And then I wanted to flag for the Board that Tuesday, June 16th, you have your annual work session with the Town of Carbondale. And that is -- on my calendar, it shows up at 5:30, and I think the reason for that is so you can get there and they always share dinner, food with the Board, and then officially kick off at 6:00, but I'll clarify that with the Board. And I did -- I talked to Erica Sparhawk on that. The new town manager in Carbondale is from Silverthorne. So I bet you he followed Kevin. He was probably -- because he was there for 10 years, so he probably knows Kevin. Ryan. Ryan's his name. Yeah, but he probably knows Kevin at Batchelor. Yeah. He does. He's a good one. Yeah. So I -- on that line, commissioners, I'd really like to know from the three of you what topics that you would like to discuss with the Town of Carbondale. That way I can forward those on, and I will make that same request of them and bring it back to you so you know, so we've got a well-fleshed-out agenda before we walk into that room. So -- We probably should talk -- I mean, it's the Carbondale. We should probably talk about the Hogback. Just because their members are wrapped up. It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to Kurt Ravenslog. Kurt Rieger. Just let him know that we're meeting and have -- we're going to be talking about that, and he might want to be there. Okay. I'll let him know. I don't know if the Fairgrounds, the Carbondale Fairgrounds needs to be discussed or not, but that seems to be working pretty well. When they came before their -- what was it they were here for? This last week, remember? The Fair Special Vengeance Committee. They had a grant from us, and he said everything's going great again, so that's good. Yeah. Well, and depending on the -- would you like me to ask that question or just leave it left? I think so. It's worth the question. Just ask them if they have anything they'd like to bring up with us about it. If not, then no big deal, because things seem to be going well. You may be poised to share -- I don't know if we want to talk about Senior Mills, too. We might want to do that. I don't know when we're meeting with Valley Mills. That's after that, or is it before that? No, it is before that. Before that. June 9th, you're going to meet with Valley Mills and more. We probably want to talk about Senior Mills, Congregate Mills, what we're doing. How about County Road 108 Bridge? Yes. Definitely. That's probably the most important thing to talk about. It should be first time. Good call, Fred. Yeah. Just saying. Yeah. Fresh on your mind. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's a good start. And if there are others, just let me know. And I'm happy to share those on. And like I say, I'll reach out to the town and get their topics back to you as soon as I find out. Okay. Let you know. And then the last thing is just June 18th is the ribbon cutting on Hanging Lake. That's 10:00 a.m. on June 18th if you wanted to go. That's all I had. June 14th, Travis is doing a first annual community corrections picnic. He wants to do that on an annual basis. But with that, he's going to invite participants that went through our program, to the program, to the program, to the program. That were successful, as well as our employers that support that community's corrections program. So understand that that's on a Sunday at 1:00 that he has scheduled for that. It will be behind his building. Yes. He's going to get a tent back there and have a little get together and picnic. So -- What time is that? 1:00. 14th. Okay. Anything else, Rob? Okay. Mr. Sampson. Talked about everything. And just to add -- On the 10th of June will be a federal Mineral East meeting. And you mentioned the picnic. Okay. Okay. Anything else, Rob? Okay. Mr. Sampson. Thank you. Talked about everything. And just to add -- On the 10th of June will be a federal Mineral East meeting. And you mentioned the picnic. And then, of course, on the 17th is an AGNC meeting in Grand Junction. From 1 to 5. The half of the meeting will be a meeting. And then, of course, on the 17th is an AGNC meeting in Grand Junction. From 1 to 5. That night. And then, of course, on the 17th is an AGNC meeting in Grand Junction from 1 to 5. That night. Uh, a reception with Karen Butt-Faltey, who was the first meeting. And then, of course, on the 17th is an AGNC meeting in Grand Junction. And then, of course, on the 17th is an AGNC meeting in Grand Junction from 1 to 5. And then, of course, on the 17th, the 18th at the -- Oh, that's great. -- at the Hotel Maverick, because she will be speaking the next day, the 18th at the -- Uh, Joe. Joe conference at Color Mesa University, which is the 18th and 19th. Mike, what time is that AGNC down there? I had it down, but I didn't. Uh, 1 to 5. 1 to 5. Okay. And the reason for that is from there. We'll just go. And now we're later at 6 to that reception for her. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Perry. I think we covered everything I had. Um, I think most of it's been, uh, hit on. I do plan to go to the, uh, the GARCO Library's thing and rifle and that for those two, two finalists or whatever. And then, um, I have the area agency. Yeah. The 29th of May, I have the area agency on aging. I'll be doing that. And, uh, oh, on the, uh, that parachute on the 27th of May, does anyone have the parachute to Aspen Regional Wellbeing? I've seen that, but I think I've seen that, but I think I've seen that. Okay. Anyway, I had that down. 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So, um, we'll see where that goes. And that would include the county as well. So, we'll see, see where that goes and go from there. Um, but it was, you know, I think it will create a hardship for people that don't have that. And that would create a hardship for people that don't have transportation. There's no doubt. Um, that's it. I, can you get it? VOLA usually gets us a CCI agenda. Can you get an agenda for us? Yes, I will. Have it on my desk. Have an idea? Great. Thank you. With that, we can be adjourned. Yeah. Recess. Recess. Yeah, recessed at one o'clock. We will re-adjourn at one o'clock. Okay, we're on the air. We're in the police office. Welcome back. We're reconvening our meeting from, uh, today, Monday, May 18th. And this is a, uh, regular agenda community development issues. And I guess we need to have, ask for any comments from citizens not on the agenda. Are there any citizens not on the agenda that would like to comment? Okay. Good, Roy. Hearing none. Hearing none. No hands on Zoom. Okay. Hearing none, we are going to go to public meetings, correct? Mm-hmm. Okay. And our first public meeting is a consideration of a request for extension of time to meet conditions of approval for a minor modification of Rock Gardens PUD amendment approved by resolution 2025. And with that, Heather, I guess I turn it over to you. This is a public meeting, not a hearing. Thank you. So the Rock Gardens PUD minor modification was approved by resolution in 2025-22 at reception number 10070199 on May 20th, 2025. This minor modification resolution resulted in 12 conditions of approval, including a proposed site plan and updated PUD guide. Previous PUD amendments included the original PUD back in 2004 and an amendment in 2010. Included in this memorandum is also Holland Capital's official request pages. Holland Capital has submitted a one-year request for extension to complete the conditions of approval. Condition four was to address the proposed proposed proposed proposed proposed site plan and condition nine was to address the moving structures of the upper Terrance cabin shed and glamping tent off the adjacent property that CDOT owns and to have a compliance with the setbacks of the current property line. Holland Capital reached out to CDOT to address their structures and they were asking for an easement at first, but CDOT requested and proposed that it would sell a portion of the property. So currently CDOT and Hong Capital are in negotiations of buying this piece of property. And it will take about probably a year, but it depends. We don't know exactly how long it's going to take. CDOT. CDOT. Yeah. CDOT. That was their timeline. That's optimistic. So the applicant also requests that they continue to use those upper cabins, the shed and the glamping tent as they have been currently used over the years. It was discovered in our last PED amendment survey that it was -- the property line was completely wrong. So I guess my question is will they have to come back in front of us as well for a -- Another extension? No, not another extension, but just a lot of adjustments. Yes, it will be another PED amendment. Right, okay. To add the new acreage. Okay, great. And be compliant within the setbacks. Our code allows us to do that. So currently they have done the relocation of the lower cabins and that has been raised up with new railings. Okay. They re-vegetated the hillside next to the river. They cleaned up all of the trash that was down there. They installed new fencing along the west property line and then they also did paving and a new guardrail. They finished all 11 RV spaces with utilities installed and they added their proofing to all the trash -- That's been driven. Receptacles. All improvements were designed by an engineer and installed by a licensed contractor. So if they are completed within one year of the CDOT purchase, then the site plan will be updated and it will be recorded again. And if they don't have the purchase go through, then the original conditions will remain in effect. So they will have to relocate all three of those -- the upper glamping tents, the shed, and the cabins. Okay, great. And staff recommends approval to do the one-year extension and to allow using the current shed, cabins, and glamping tents. And then we have a few site photos of the last site visit I was there. Questions of Heather? Nope. Looks good to meet you. Mike, good. Okay. To the applicant. You guys want to present anything or are you fine with Heather's presentation? We're fine with Heather's presentation. Okay. I just say, gentlemen, I'd like to see a two-year extension just because this is CDOT. Yeah. We have the authority to do a two-year extension so you get this done, not have to be back in front of us a year from now. Okay. So this is an action item. Close the public hearing because there wasn't one. It's a public meeting, so next door is a public hearing. So we'll do a resolution for the extension. Okay, you'll do a resolution, but you still need a motion from us. Yes, you do. To approve the extension, so. If I could ask somebody for that, that motion. Mr. Chairman, I move that we grant the extension of time for two years to meet the conditions of approval for the minor modification of Rock Gardens PUD amendment approved by resolution 2025-22. That property being located at 1308 County Road 129 just east of Glenwood Springs and allow the chair to sign with the 11 conditions of approval as outlined in our memo. So we'll do a motion to allow them to allow them to use the current tents and sheds and cabins. Yes. So moved. And you'll have a resolution on our consent agenda. Oh, one, yeah, one of the consent agenda. On our consent agenda. Okay. Second. Okay, any other discussion? Discussion from the public? Hearing none, I'll call a motion. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Okay. Thank you. You guys got it. Thanks, Tom. Congratulations. Thank you very much. Okay, next we do have a public hearing. So, let's, um... Can I ask for notice first or do I notice first? I usually swear them in first. Swear in first, okay. All right. Gentlemen, good to see you. This is a public hearing. Review and consideration for the revocation application of Rivers Edge BUD and rezoning to residential suburban for parcels... The parcels. Owner is Harvest Roaring Fork. Okay, with that, everybody that's going to testify on this, this is a public hearing, so I'm going to ask you to raise your right hand, unless you're a lawyer, you don't need to promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God. Okay, thank you. Okay, with that, we will then go to notice. Correct. They had to notice for the rezoning as well as the revocation, and that was publication, posting, and mailing, and they did that in court for their code. Okay, so we're good with notice. Correct. We was good. Commission's are good with notice. Yep. Yes. Yes. Everybody nodding their head. So, okay. With that, John, we are to you on this one. Yes, sir. Let me get teed up here. Okay. Screen going here. Okay, great. Okay, great. So this is an application for the revocation of the River Edge PUD and the rezoning of those two parcels to residential suburban. As noted before, the applicants Harvest Roaring Fork, LLC, Doug Pratt with the Land Studio, and Chad Lear here as their representatives. Project size for the two parcels for the two parcels for the two parcels are 159 acres. The current zoning is PUD, and as noted, the proposed zoning is residential suburban. This is the site itself, the two red outlined parcels. It's split by Cattle Creek to the west and to the north is residential suburban zoning, also to the south. The conservation easement held by the Roaring Porc Conservancy is to the west. Code states that the BOCC can review the PUD to notice public hearing and may revoke approval for incomplete portions of the PUD. We'll get into that in the next few slides as to what happened to the River Edge and some history of the project itself. Code also does state that the BOCC shall provide notice. The applicant has provided notice as we reviewed earlier. Here's a brief history of the two parcels in question. In 2001, it was approved as the Sanders Ranch PUD for 62 single-family dwellings and multifamily dwellings. In 2007, the PUD was revoked and rezoned to residential suburban. There was also a second resolution that confirmed that the conservation easement was still in place, as the original resolution also stated that the conservation easement was part of the PUD, but there are two separate items. In 2011, River... Can I interrupt you then? Sure. So the conservation easement will stay in place even if we revoke the... Correct. Okay. Yeah, the conservation easement parcel is not part of this application. Okay. Thank you. In 2011, the River Edge PUD and preliminary plan were approved for a total of 366 dwelling units with a vesting period of 10 years with a five-year termination clause. In 2016, an amendment and extension request was denied by the Board of County Commissioners. 2016, a five-year extension for each phase of the River Edge PUD was granted, with the first phase to be platted in 2021 and the last phase in 2028. No plats were ever filed. Just to note that the public comments were not received specific to the revocation and rezoning application. Okay. There were rather lengthy and a large amount of public comments related to the Harvest Roaring Fork application, which the Planning Commission reviewed at the same time at two separate public hearings. Referral agencies indicated that they did not have any issues with the revocation or the rezoning. So just a brief summary of staff review. The area that's proposed for the rezoning is adjacent to other areas that are zoned residential suburban, and it also complies with the comprehensive plan future land use mapping with densities that are consistent with that proposed zoning. The RS zoning would allow for residential development at a reasonable density. The rezoning would also address the need to retire older approvals, i.e. the River Edge PUD. The application was reviewed by the Planning Commission on February 25th and March 11th. At the March 11th meeting, the Planning Commission made a motion to recommend approval to the Board of County Commissioners for the revocation and the rezoning. Included in your packet is a recommended motion with findings 1 through 6. Any questions, Commissioner? Any questions for John? Any questions for John? No. Okay. Gary? No. Okay. Gary? Nope. No questions. Okay. To the applicant. I'm going to hand this out real quick. Okay. Yeah. I'm just going to hand out pages 17 through 21 of the comprehensive plan, which is already exhibited. Okay. All right. Just so you can get eyes out. You do not have this on the screen then? That's correct. Okay. Yep. Yeah. And don't forget to introduce yourself. Go ahead. So the request for revocation. Doug, do I go ahead and introduce you? Sure. My name is Justin. I'm with the Land Studio. I live in Garfield County in Iberge. So I just wanted to kind of preface this. I just don't have a big presentation, but the revocation application that we put together was collaborated with staff. It was requested for us to put this revocation application together to clean up really the underlying zoning. So this was at request of staff? It was. Okay. Thank you. So based on that request, we put the revocation application together. Again, it goes back to the RS zoning that was in place prior to the River Edge PUD. So with that, as you can see from the list that John had put up regarding previous approvals, there were kind of a series of things that had gone on, final plats that weren't recorded, PUD that was still in place. So it's really trying to clean up all of that to get it back to the RS zone district, hence meeting the standards in the code for RS and all of application requirements for future potential applications. So it cleans up the underlying zoning. It cleans up all of the associated documents that were -- the previous plats that weren't recorded. Those are no longer going to be in place or referred to. It's really a straight RS zone district. And that was our request to revoke it back to the previously underlying zone district prior to the River Edge Colorado PUD application. Great. And I'll go one step further and say it wasn't just a request of staff. It was a requirement. And Kelly agrees with that. They weren't going to find our other application complete until we requested this revocation. And even though that one's been withdrawn, we see the benefits of wiping it clean and everyone agreeing on what the rules are. And so just for the record, as you guys know, all land is zoned under base zone districts in Garfield County. And there are -- there is -- someone could come in and request a PUD, which is special zoning. That special zoning comes with certain benefits for the county. But it also comes with extensive and technical phasing plans and all kinds of things that, when they lapse, it's just no longer out there. And so what the county's -- I think a point of emphasis for you guys is to clean up some of these old PUDs that are just sort of out there and to go back to the underlying zoning, which in this case was residential suburban. On that note, I did -- I handed out -- if you -- if you turn to page 17, this is just -- this is from our comprehensive plan. Our properties are designated as residential high, as you'll see here on the bottom of page 17. And if you look at the third column down, it says compatible zone districts, residential suburban, residential urban, or mobile home park, or a PUD. And so we're being asked to revoke the PUD. So those are your three options according to the comp plan. But in my opinion, it was previously designated as residential suburban. It's surrounded by residential suburban. Residential suburban is compatible with that area of the county. And so we'd ask you guys to approve this request. There is a mobile home park on the north side of the park? Not as part of this parcel, but there is one. Yeah, there is adjacent. That's okay. Yep. Thank you. So we'll have to go back up if that helps. Yep. So the staff report did a good job of going through the criteria. We can -- you know, we can discuss those if you want. But otherwise, I think it sort of speaks for itself. Okay. Great. Yeah. And then we'll have to go back up to the next question. Okay. So I have a question of legal. So is this becoming use by right as if it's a residential suburban at two-acre lots? And is that -- or would they have to come back through? Mr. Laborn's probably the party on that. Okay, Mr. Laborn. Is that a use by -- is it a use by right residential suburban with two-acre lots or 7,500 square feet? Mr. Laborn's probably the only one that's going to be a use by right. Mr. Laborn's probably the only one that's going to be a use by right. Mr. Laborn's probably the only one that's going to be a use by right. 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I anticipate there may be something coming down the pike. But for today's purposes, we're fully supportive of this, and we want to thank the staff. John and Glenn have been very helpful in our work on this project, and we're fully supportive of the revocation and the RS subdivision. Okay, great. Thank you. That's all I have to say. Thanks. Thank you, sir. Any other public comment? Siri, please come forward. Thank you. Siri Olson. I live at 475 County Road 167 also. As John said, we're supportive of this. And the reason I wanted to just say something today is to remind everybody that if you look at the residential suburban zone districts, one of the key things that's called out in there as a value is it specifically says, suburban zone district, residential suburban zone district is comprised of low-density suburban residential uses developed to maintain a rural character. And I want to just kind of make sure that's on everybody's radar screen so whatever next comes forward from the applicant or whoever, that we don't lose sight of preservation of rural character, which is a value of this zone district, and I think it's something we're rapidly losing throughout this county. So I hope you keep that in your priority list as you're looking at things going forward for this. Any comments for Siri? No? Thank you for your comment. Thank you. Thank you for your time. Is there anybody else in the public that would like to testify? Wow. With all you here, I thought there would be more of a comment. Oh, please come forward. Hi. Start with your name and address. Are you, you know, I've sworn you in, so just start with your name and address. Pardon? Name and address. And rank and serial number? Yes, please. I'm John Loomis. I live at 10 Wild Rose Drive and a track home in Iron Bridge, and I just want to speak in support of the revocation of River's Edge because many of my neighbors, you know, are interested in, as Siri mentioned, keeping that rural character of the area. And that is, with the revocation, it does make it consistent with the underlying zoning and with the comprehensive plan. And that's important to us in terms of compatibility between, you know, both where I live at Iron Bridge as well as Aspen Glen and the surrounding area. So we moved out there because there's that rural character that Siri mentioned. We're at the end with the large lots, the old part of Iron Bridge and so forth. So I just want to say we're in support of that revocation. Okay, thank you, John. Any questions for John? Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else public comment? Any questions for John before we close the public hearing? I'd ask for a motion to close the public hearing. So moved. Second. Call the question. 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Let's get on the air. Welcome anyway, everybody. You're on the air. Okay, if you'd please, we'll go with the agenda. Please start with the roll call. Good morning. Commissioner Will is absent. Chairman Jankowski. Present. Commissioner Sampson. Here. Okay, if you'd all join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Remain standing and join me in a moment of silence in your own way. Okay, thank you. Okay. First thing is, I think it's going to be elected officials and it's a public hearing to... Oh, yeah, public comment. Yeah, I'm jumping ahead of myself. Anybody that has public comment for an item that's not on the agenda? Roy, do you have anybody with their hand up on Zoom? No hands on Zoom. Okay. I don't see anybody in the audience. I was kind of making an assumption there. It wasn't going to be a public comment. Okay, now we are to elected officials and to the Garfield County clerk and recorder for a public hearing for a retail establishment permit. This is something that... This one is something we haven't seen before. Is that correct, Shelley? That's correct. This is new. Okay. And we have an applicant here, Charlie. We... If you want to swear us in first, then I can give you information on the public notice. I will swear you in. Okay. Everybody wants to testify. Please raise their right hand. Promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So I'll help you God. I do. I do. Thank you. And with that, we'll go to notification. The notice. And so I'm going to let Shelley actually talk about the notice because there aren't actually any specific notice requirements for this particular type of permit. So we did... We're developing the processes for this, and I'll let Shelley explain what that was. Yeah, so when we looked this up in statutes, there's no... The Colorado State statutes stopped requiring that local licensing authorities hold public hearings. For liquor licenses in general, this is just how we've always processed any permits or any new licenses. So we are sticking to status quo and holding it as a public hearing just to continue as we have done in the past. And where did that law go into effect? I believe it was a decision that they changed last year or the year before. Okay. So a public hearing, it just... I've always looked at it as a way for the public to have that chance to know that something's happening in their neighborhood. You know, because we always post the signs. Or if it's a new license, it's published in the newspaper as well. So it gives the public a chance to know what's going on as well. So we figured we'd keep the status quo on this and continue to do public hearings. Because it is more of a... I wouldn't say temporary permit because the state does offer an option to renew the permit. But it is more of a... It's specific to certain events. So they have to provide a list of dates that they would like to have. We handled it more similar to a special event hearing than as compared to, like, an actual liquor license. So we just posted at the location instead of posting and publishing. So that's how we handled the public notice for today. How long has this law been in effect? You know, where it's like a... For the retail establishment permits? Yeah, but it's for a one-day event, you know. The retail establishment permit was passed through legislation in 2023. It's a new thing for us. We just haven't had any establishments. It is definitely... It's meant for more similar to, like, spas or just anything that's essentially retail that wouldn't normally meet any liquor license standards to hold an actual liquor license. But for this... Similar to this event, that they want to have a big event to open up and say, hey, we're here. They just are set to certain standards as to how much alcohol they can serve, how many dates they can have, the size... So the size of their drink, it's complimentary only. They're not allowed to actually sell alcohol. They can only provide alcohol. There's also... That also covers no entrance fees, no cover fees, so they can't charge for anybody to enter. They can only just provide a complimentary champagne drink or complimentary beverage. It is malt, vinous, and spirituous, so they're allowed to serve any of those. There is a limit on the businesses or the business type, as you can see in the information I included from the statutes. So it's not allowed to be, I believe, like a convenience store. They're not allowed to sell firearms. They're not allowed to have a daycare. So it's pretty specific. It's just down to, like, offering these little stores a chance to hold an event that might draw in more public. It's pretty much. Yep. And then... This is a newly built location also. Sorry, I forgot to mention. There's still a lot of construction going on around it. This is that location behind the mall. If you remember, I think it was last year that ComDev came, and they were looking at splitting it or something similar to that. That's correct. So... I think we did split it. Yeah. And then there's... So there's storage units that are already built. This building is completed. And then there's, like, a few buildings in front of it between this and Donegan that are going up as well. So because it's kind of all new, we posted the signs in two different locations. We posted at the front of the store and then also at the closest cross street, which would be Donegan and the entrance to the parking lot. So that way it was convenient for the citizens there. This application, it's complete. It's for that cafe to hold their grand opening. They'll be serving alcohol between 4 p.m. and 7 p.m. on June 6th. And they've included a portion of their parking lot in the premises. And so we asked that they got a letter from the landlord or from the owner of the property to state that they are allowed to do so, and they've done that. We also asked that they contact community development and public health to verify that there's no additional permits necessary. They did so. And we also keep in touch with community development and public health when we receive applications like this to make sure that all lines are crossed, that we are making sure everything is good. We did receive comment back from community development that the CEO had not been issued at that time, but that was, I believe, a week ago. That was the day before you guys had your inspection. Correct. And so you have had your inspection? We did on Friday. Okay. And so we also did stress the importance of the alcohol control. If there's going to be alcohol in a parking lot, we want to make sure that they're keeping an eye on where their attendees are going without alcohol, that they're not taking that beverage into a car and leaving with it that there's some sort of plan there. So Charlie is here from Bonfire, and he can give that information. And then just real quick, we also received an email from Charlie late last night that the date might be changing according to regulations. It's actually Regulation 47-436, Paragraph 2, which is on page 4 of your attachment there. It does allow for the applicant to change the date as long as they provide a notice, written notice 15 calendar days ahead of time. So if they provide us notice by May 20th, then we can present that back to you on consent agenda, if that works for you, on June 1st. Okay. So we're going to set a date certain, and then if there's going to be a change, it'll come back to us on a consent agenda. That would be our recommendation, yes, that we approve today as is, and then if they have a date change, then we can bring it back on consent. At the next hearing that we would have. So if he provides us a date later on this week and says we did actually change, then we would provide that information next week. I'm not seeing the date in front of me. June 6th. June 4th is the set date currently. Okay, great. Okay. But Charlie is here to provide any information on the event itself. And... Yeah, Charlie, we'll give you the floor and tell us about Alpenglow, what you're planning to do out there. Yeah, we're... It's just... We're having... Hosting a grand opening party, and we're just... For us, it's more of a... We're more interested in showcasing our coffee and letting people, everyone know that we're here and serving the Valley. And we're offering the cocktails as, you know, just a refreshment. And so we're going to do espresso martinis and maybe a stout coffee that will be served at the bar in the back of our facility. Really simple, really low-key on the alcohol side. Okay, so, Charlie, is this going to be a coffee shop similar to Bonfire? Or are you going to be roasting there? This is our new roasting facility. It will not be a cafe. We do have a retail portion in the front of this new facility that will serve ground, like whole bean coffee options and also coffee brewing equipment, espresso machines, more on the equipment side. But we're not a full... We don't want to be a cafe. Okay, but somebody might drop in and get a cup of coffee. Technically, I can't sell it. I did not. And I talked with Rebecca at the... I didn't want to sell it. We can host tastings and cuppings and trainings, but we're not set up to sell. You're a retailer then for coffee products and it looks like it sounds like. Exactly, yeah. Okay, great. Anything else that you want to add? No, no. I mean, yeah, no, it's just a two-hour event, three-hour event, super simple. Okay. Commissioner Sampson, questions? So, I guess what I'm saying that what you're asking us is for the staff recommendation down here at the bottom. Yes. And if the date changes, then we can take care of that at a later date on the consent agenda. As long as that works for you, yes. Okay. Okay. Need to close the public hearing. Need a motion? So moved. Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Okay. So with that, it is decision time. Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve a retail establishment permit for a grand opening event to be held by Alpenglow Restaurants, LLC, doing business as Bonfire Coffee, located at 304 Center Drive, number 106, Glenwood Springs, and allow the chair to sign. And I'll second that motion. Any other discussion? Okay. I call a motion. All in favor? Aye. Aye. So you got it, Charlie. Thank you, gentlemen. Thanks for doing business in Garfield County. Sure. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Next thing in front of us is a consent agenda. There are not a lot of items, six items on the consent agenda. Mr. Chairman, and I have no problem with any of those items. So with that, I would move that we approve the consent agenda, items one through six, and allow the chair to sign that need his signature. I agree. And I'll second that. Any discussion? Consent agenda? Hearing none, call the motion. All in favor? Aye. All right. We are moving right along. 16 minutes through consent agenda. So Mr. Jarman, with you, public hearings. Yes. Good morning, commissioners. Public meetings this morning. You've got five action items and then one presentation following that. And so to start off, the action items for this morning, you've got your awards to do for your discretionary grants. So the second quarter discretionary grants that were presented to you last week, and now that is in front of you to make decisions on those awards. Okay. Any discussion from anybody on discretionary grants? We had about an hour's worth of presentations last week on discretionary grants. Now we're making decisions. We had $30,000 available, and we had 10 applicants, I think, at $48,500. So not everybody's going to get what they want, but I think we're covering everybody. Commissioner Sampson, do you have a motion? Recommendations here, Mr. Chairman. Do you want to make that in the form of a motion? You bet. And I echo what you say is that we can't give everybody all that they want. I wish those days were over, as we know. So with that, I would move that we grant the following discretionary grant requests to CMC, $2,500 for scholarship, to RFOV, $3,000, to the Rifle Rendezvous, $5,000, to Aspen Radio, $3,000, to the Roaring Fork Valley Orchestra, $3,000, to the Little League, $3,000, West Elk Trails, $3,000, Grand Valley Historical Society, $5,000, $3,000, $3,000, to the Roaring Fork Conservancy, $3,000, and the Mill Colorado Watershed, $5,000, for a total of $34,500. Okay. So we're over what we had in place. However, we do four different quarters on that, so we're going to be short either the third or fourth quarter. That's right. Or both. I think it's, yeah, I think it was tough decisions, all good applications, I guess, for grant. RFOV is Roaring Fork Outdoor Volunteers. So with that, I would, I'll make the motion. Did you make that as a motion? Okay, I'll second that. Okay. Any other discussion? Call a question. All in favor? Aye. Okay. We've got it. So on to item number two, Mr. Jarman. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, commissioners. We'll get back with all the mercy room. We'll make those announcements. Back to those groups. The second item this morning, this is to consider and determine the cost per acre foot for water to be leased to West Divide Water Conservancy District and the Silt Water Conservancy District for water it owns in you, the Garfield County Board of County Commissioners, owns in the Rude Eye Reservoir for 2026, which is 400 acre feet. And maybe just a real quick background on this, if it's helpful for the board. You do own 400 acre feet. 15 acre feet of that needs to be reserved for the use for Garfield County for various dust suppression, those kinds of things with our Road and Bridge team. But at the last meeting, when both of those groups were here, in addition to the request with CWCB, you did award 200 acre feet, allocate, I should say, 200 acre feet to West Divide and offered, same thing, 185 acre feet to Silt. They were to go back and determine whether that pricing worked for them because they had a board meeting they still had to have so they could find their own direction and their own approvals before they came back to you. Just to let you know, Silt did get back to us late last week and did let us know that they are going to withdraw their request based on funding that they don't have for the $84.95 an acre foot for what the county is asking for those, which is a two-year-old price point. And so I don't know if West Divide is here this morning. I do know that they're interested. So I just want to lay that out as a background for you. Okay. You know, there's two commissioners here. I am on the West Divide board, so I think I'd like to postpone this for a week. Yeah, if there's going to be a vote on addition, if West Divide was going to ask for additional water, then you would need to recuse. Okay. Mr. Chairman, I would move that we table until our next meeting on May 18th and put that on the agenda to determine that issue. Okay. Do we need a motion on that? I know. She did. Yeah. Okay, I'll second that. Call a question. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Yes, thank you. Third on your agenda, this is a request for two letters of support for the complete irrigation infrastructure to complete irrigation infrastructure on seven ditches in the Divide Creek drainage. Mike Torns, Vice President of Southside Conservation District. Kyle Laidlaw, board member of the Southside Conservation District. Mike Kishimoto, District Technician Engineering. And Emily Schwaller, District Manager of the Book Cliff, Mount Sopras, and Southside Conservation Districts are here. Whew! Welcome there, guys. Pretty important. Small up and horse, man. So you're asking for two letters of support. So just why don't you give us an update on what's going on, what you're asking us to support. We're familiar with letters of support because of the Colorado River District. Good morning. So the Divide Creek drainage is, we started this project probably close to a year ago. We're going through and trying to modernize the infrastructure in the ditch in that entire drainage. Those structures and that infrastructure is well over 100 years old and in great need of it. So we've partnered with FCA. They're out of Oregon. I really don't know how to define them. They're not really a company. They're more of an organization. They are helping us with the grants. They're helping us with the planning. They're helping us with the engineering. And it's been a great relationship. So we just are asking for a couple letters of support so we can keep moving forward with these grants and keep trying to help these guys. Some of the projects involved are just newer structures, newer piping, newer things like that, but also things like SCADA, things like that to help the producers with labor, time, all the things that we know are short on. Great. All right, Kishimoto, do you want to add anything to that? Good to see you here. Good to see you. No, again, it's just a very good thing that's happening to us. They've given us so much support and money eventually to help get these projects done. Yeah. Good for it. Emily, anything? Kyle, you got anything? I'd just like to include that this project would cover 15,000-plus irrigated acres and would help manage 340 cubic feet of water. And what's the reasoning for two separate letters, two separate plans, okay? Utilize your time, both two by one stone. How urgent are your letters? River districts? What's your time frame? So the river districts is urgent. That's due tomorrow. The reason I bring that up is Commissioner Will is not here, and so maybe we want to change the signatures at the bottom of the letter so we can get that signed for you today. Just have the chair sign. Yeah. Okay. We can do it internally. Have Vola do that. Okay. That works great for us. And then, yeah, the second grant is less time-constrictive, but the second grant allows us to start to complete the work, so if there's no water, we might as well do construction out there this year. Just one other thing to note here is we're using this to build off of, starting in 2018, we did that integrative water management plan with several other organizations. We did the consumptive use portion of it. Six of these seven ditches that we're working with, we inventoried as part of that project. So it's a very cool way that we're building off of existing work and using those inventories that we completed back starting in 2018. Well, agriculture is important. We need to keep you guys in business. Commissioner Sampson? No, I fully support it. Okay. Anybody else from the public who wants to make a comment? Hearing none, we need a motion as an action item. Mr. Chairman, I move that we grant the request and sign you, as the chairman, sign two letters of support to complete the irrigation infrastructure on seven ditches in the Divide Creek drainage as presented to us. And I will second that. Any other discussion? Hearing none, call the question. All in favor? Aye. You guys got it. Thank you. Thank you. We'll have those by noon, Emily. We'll have that signature. So I don't know if we can just scan it to you. Okay. All right. Okay. Thanks, Emily. Thank you. Keep up the good work. Okay. Back to you, Mr. Jarrett. Okay. Thank you, commissioners. Fourth this morning, this is a review and consideration of local government regulations of massage facilities pursuant to section 30-15-401.4, Colorado revised statutes of Jan Schutt, your assistant county attorney, is here to present. Hi, Jan. What are you doing? Hello. You've been busy. Yeah. Yeah. And you need a massage. Well, I ask whether maybe that could be part of the investigation, but... Yeah. So in 2024, I believe, the legislature began this effort where they're having local governments do background checks on massage facilities in an effort to go after human trafficking. in 2025, they revisited it, pushed the timing out, the deadline out, to the 1st of July this year for having regulation in place. One of the exceptions to this rule is if you don't have facilities... Well, also part of... They again revisited it in 26 and didn't really make many changes other than they allowed local governments to have licensing fees in excess of what was in the statute, allowed penalties for not complying with whatever government regulation there was in excess of the state statutes. And then... Also, they said, hey, local governments, don't go after massage facilities that are not participating in human trafficking. So make efforts to not be affecting massage facilities that aren't participating. So it's sort of this mixed message a little bit. I think what helps us, or at least the situation that we're in right now, is I did a search, certainly not exhaustive. I did a search of all the massage facilities advertising in Garfield County and then pinpointed them to whether they were within the city limits or outside of the city limits. What I came up with was there were three facilities that are outside the city limits and each one of them are only a single massage therapist providing services, like out of her home or, you know, something like that. Each of those massage therapists are separately licensed by the state. They have no violations on file. So they're in good standing with the state on their massage licenses. And so I'm here recommending to the board, at least at this time, to say we should fall under the exception to this rule that if there are no facilities within the unincorporated, within our jurisdiction, the unincorporated pieces of Garfield County, that we can say this law at this time is not, we don't have to do anything. Yeah, I'm happy to hear that. So is there a motion required or you don't have... I think it would be good if we could have a motion saying that... Can you help us with that motion? Yeah, I tried to do that. I see the action request. Yeah, I think you can just say the board has determined at this time there are no facilities that meet the requirements of Section 3015404.4 and therefore, we will not be doing anything further. So moved. Thank you. I'll second that. I'm glad this is not controversial. I'll call a question. All in favor? Aye. Okay. We don't have to do anything. That's fine. That's good. Yeah, moving right along. Okay. Back to you, Mr. Jarman. Yes, sir. Thank you. Fifth on your action items this morning, this is a recommendation and approval to award a contract to Alan Kokish, Incorporated, doing business as Aspen Chef for the Older Adult Meal Program in Eastern Garfield County. And I think Kim, Keysbury's here. Sheila Stroud, are you going to come up as well to help her out with this program? So good morning. Welcome. Thanks, Sheila. You're welcome. Boy, we go round and round on this one. Boy. And we're back here again. Yeah. Before we get started, I have one question. Is this a gentleman that we had do it last year? Okay. Yes. Two years ago? Two years ago? Yes. Yes. All right. Thank you. For a while, we had CMC was doing, it wasn't CMC, but their professional Sodexo caterer was doing it. Yes. Good. Thank you. Okay. You have the floor. Thank you. So yes, this is a recommendation and approval to award a contract to Alan Kokish doing business as Aspen Chef. We only received the one response to the RFQ. And he's the only one that responded. Yes. And we actually did a lot of outreach this time. We did a different advertisement in the paper. We were hoping that would help, but we just got the one. Okay. So we're at $180,000 for congregate meals and that's in the east end of Garfield County. And the thing I don't see here, and I really, what's the price per meal? The actual cost per meal is I think $17.10 per meal. You'll recall that we had a minimum number of meals that we have to purchase. Right. We got the number down for Carbondale to 50 meals instead of 70 meals, so that's closer to the amount that we actually need there. I have had conversations with Mr. Kokish, and he is very interested in helping us figure out a way to use the extra meals. He doesn't want us paying for 70 meals and not getting 70 meals. He wants to get us all 70. We just have to figure out what to do with them. I also have our older adult programs team are working on a recruitment plan, where to go, how to figure out how to get more people to our meal sites so that we have less excess meals to deal with. I mean, is there any, would, is somebody like LiftUp able to use the extra meals? I mean, this is, are we, you have 20 meals potentially are going into the, we're working it out. We have an option to apply for grab-and-go approval from AAA. The concern there is that people will just start showing up and grabbing a meal and we'll lose the culture of the congregate meal site if you can just grab a meal and leave. So that's one option. We can serve them as second meals to the people who are at the meal site. They can take the second meal. They can take a second meal home which happens now because we have people who make reservations. We order a meal for them and then they have something come up and they don't come to the meal site so we are already providing second meals at all of our meal sites. So that's an option. Before we changed vendors last year, Mr. Kokish was working with us to go to the senior housing in Carbondale and in Glenwood and hand out meals one day and give people information about what we have to offer to have more people come to the meal sites. I've also had conversations with Don Dexter at Rafta and the Traveler about how can we get more people from senior housing to the meal sites if that's the barrier. We don't even know if that's the barrier for people getting there but we will be doing outreach to the older adults in those areas to see if we can figure out why they're not coming and what it would take to get them to come. At $17 a meal, what's the quality of the meal? Is this like a meal you get if you go to schools? No, he's a professional caterer. The meals and he's very invested in his meals even at our meal sites being very high quality to the extent that we have discussions about he wants the salad plated separately and served first because that's how you are served meals when you're out not everything on the same plate. So yes, he is very intentional about his meals being both delicious and presented in a way that gives them justice. Okay, so we're 20 meals over in Carbondale. How about Glenwood? About 20 also. So, another option would be to combine Carbondale and Glenwood on a Thursday. we are still looking to see if that's feasible because we'd have to find a new location in Carbondale. If we were able to do all three meal sites in one day we would even get the excess down even lower because it would just be a total for the day closer to like 100 meals which would be... But we're still... Yeah. This is not to exceed so this would be based on per meal, correct? Per meal. Yeah. That's based on 70 meals per day. Right. And this is in the state fiscal year? Yes. Yes. Okay. What is the meal cost that we provide in Rifle? It's $12.50. Additionally, we have to also pay for transport which is about $3,000 a month because Rifle doesn't have the ability to transport the meals for us. Mr. Kokus transports the meals to our locations so there's a little bit difference. Yeah, it delivers. Okay. Yeah. And he's out of Basalt? Yes. Okay. Thanks for trying to work this out. We tried really hard. Keeper was really helpful and did outreach not only to the people that I suggested but even to more vendors to see if anybody was interested. Yeah. I think if you contacted lift up if there's some way the meals could be preserved they might take extra meals. The way that the temperatures are taken they have to be served or discarded within four hours. Wow. Okay. so they would they would have to get them and get them out very quickly. They don't have that baby. Okay. Mr. Lapp, I was just wondering can we can we work out these details as to where we you mentioned Sheila that it might be possible to combine the meals Glenwood and Carbondale at one location? We are working on that. Would it be possible how we do that? I don't know. We have to find a new location for Carbondale and then check with CMC and ask if we could use their facility on Thursdays. Thursday is the only day that Mr. Kokish could do all of it on the same day. But we would have Carbondale folks would have to travel to Glenwood. No. No. We would look for a new location in Carbondale. Good. The orchard is only available on Wednesdays right now. And so it would be the plan is to reach out to other churches and community spaces and see if anybody would be interested in letting us use it on a Thursday. Okay. Well I'm just wondering would it be possible for us to make this decision at a later date if you could get those details worked out thus hopefully we wouldn't I mean it drives me crazy to think that possibly we're going to waste 20 meals at a cost of $17 a meal. I just I can't handle that. Yeah. so that we're actually at $165 right now with the decrease to 50 meals in Carbondale so the total contract will likely be a little bit less. So you need us to approve the $180 though? Or does it matter? It doesn't matter because it's by individual meals. Correct. And it's a not to exceed. It doesn't mean we have to go up to the $180 our contract with Rifle is also an estimate it's not an exact number it's based on past information. I just don't want meals to go to waste. I agree. Neither do I. We'll figure out something to do with them. Whether some people will be getting more people will be getting second meals or we will figure out where we can take those meals and hand them out. We will figure that out. Mr. Kokish does not want us to pay for 70 meals and get 30 meals. That is not what he wants to happen. Are you okay? Yeah. You're working on it. We don't have another option. If we don't go with this then we have no vendor. Valley meals and more doesn't want those extra meals? We tried that before and it was not successful. I know that's why we're back here. Will this be the same standard contract that you used last time with Ellen? One of the challenges with the excess meals is we don't know what the number is. We could have 20, we could have 22, we could have 15. It's difficult even with our investigating how we could do the home delivered. Where could we take them and leave them? We can't guarantee anybody a meal because the number will fluctuate every week as to the number of excess meals that we have. for some of our seniors if they can take an extra meal home that really helps them. We have several that are doing that already. With their nutrition because they can get part of the week done just from congregate meals as far as their nutrition goes. So, okay. Mr. Chairman, I move we approve the recommendation of staff for the contract to Aspen Chef in the amount not to exceed $180,000 for the older adult mental services in eastern Garfield County and allow the chair to sign. And I'll second that. I think we've had plenty of discussion. Call a motion. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Sheila. Thank you, Sheila. All right. Do you want to take a quick break, Mr. Sancher? You're good? I'm good. I'm good. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Johnson. Back to you, Mr. Johnson. Sure. Thank you. Finally, this morning, under presentations and information items, we have the annual presentation for the previous year's experience with the Sheriff's Office Inmate Medical Services work by Core Health LLC. Commander Kathy Dalla is here to present with her full team, including the Sheriff and various others. So, good morning and welcome. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good to see all of you again. Sorry, my handless is out. We've got enough of a room once. Thank you, Commander. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Thank you. Good morning. I'll see you on this side of the street. I'll just introduce you guys. No, you guys are going to do all the talking. Morning. You're talking right now. I'll introduce them. Because last time I think Todd and Mike were virtually online. But today we have the CEO, Todd Murphy. Of Core Health LLC. And Mike Dillman. He is the Chief Operating Officer. Timothy Hammond is the Director of Risk Management. And Crystal Casas-Telis. I said it right, right? Yes. Thank you. Is our Health Services Administrator in the jail. Good morning. And you know the sheriff. So they have a packet of information that they brought today. I want to talk about our past year. So we're going to work out the packet. We're not going to do slide projections. That's great. A little quicker that way. Thanks. Okay, gentlemen, you have the floor. Todd, do you want to start? Yes, sir. Good morning. Good morning, commissioners and board. Again, Todd Murphy, Chief Operating Officer for Core Health. And thank you again for the opportunity to allow us to come back to present before you and talk about all the things we've been up to, all of our achievements over the last year and really over the last three years. You know, we're going into our fourth year of this partnership, and we're awfully proud of all that we've achieved. You know, two years ago, we were here, and we asked you to come tour the jail. We had a long work session, which was fantastic. Thank you again for doing that. And the last year, Tim was here. We were virtual. But this year, we're back again to talk about our achievements. Our partnership has been successful over the last three years through CASAL and our locally-based team. We've done a fair job of retaining the team, recruiting, and supporting the team well. We've had zero deaths, incestive deaths, zero lawsuits. We have one pro se, but it's nothing. We've done a great job here. So you're considering the chronic nature of this population, how litigious they are, and all the things that are happening on the outside. It takes a strong, dedicated team to do what we've done, and it starts with Gasol, with Maddie, with our local team. But with that, you have a packet there in front of you. Just talk about some of our achievements and things we're awfully proud of, first of which is, again, zero deaths, zero lawsuits. And in this setting, this population, that says a lot because of how litigious it is. I'm sure you hear from neighboring counties and through newspaper and TV, all the lawsuits and things that are happening throughout the state and throughout the country. Garfield County is no different. And so, but with this program, with your investment in us and all the things we're doing, we've really built a quality-based program with high standards. What's happening here soon is Colorado's coming out with a new set of Colorado jail standards. And that'll be coming out in July. August. In July. Yeah. Colorado's always coming out with something new. We try to track our expenses that the state legislature puts on us. Yeah. And as promised, we will give you a presentation on those jail standards and go through that. Good. But starting off with zero deaths, zero lawsuits, and given the nature of the population, that's something that's certainly worth noting. But also a big reasoning for that is all the things we're doing on the back end. So as we see here today, we have a whole team of quality assurance RNs who do nothing but go through our documentation seven days a week. Through our intake, our general documentation, clinical and our behavioral health. If you look at page three of our document at the top, we began this program in 24. And in 24, the very first year, we managed 815 random documentation checks in that year. Ramp that number up to 2,831, I'm sorry, 531 in 24. And this year, we're on a target to manage around 3,000. And what that is, again, in the background, we have a team of RN quality assurance nurses who are going through intake, general documentation. And what that does is, when we do find a deficiency, no matter how faint it may be or significant, our quality assurance team contacts Chris Saul. We do some coaching with the nurse. We make corrective action, and we fix that. We're the only provider in the industry doing that. And so, you know, there's a cost associated with that. It costs more to do more. And to achieve all that we have, it takes those extra steps of quality assurance, innovation, and doing the right thing. I hate to lose a lawsuit because we don't have documents completely correctly. And that's a fact, unfortunately. Yeah, and that's really where the litigation lies is with documentation, you know. Right. Right. And you guys are, what, are you guys on a calendar year with us or state fiscal year as well? Okay. Yes, sir. We began July 1st of 23 is when we first transitioned. Kathy, do we get any grants to help with our expense on this contract? Not really in relation to the inmate medical care. The grant that we're getting that I presented last week is mostly passed through medications, which Core Health and their team administer and help us purchase and those kind of things. But not a lot of it goes to, it can't be applied to most of this. Okay. Thank you. However, though, just recently, we've, you know, one of the things we do constantly, we're constantly researching different grants and different programs to help reduce those costs. And just recently, we came to the county and discussed one of the programs called MCAP. It's Minnesota. I don't remember the acronym, but it's not. It says Minnesota, but it's not based in Minnesota. It started with, yeah. Well, that's reassuring. Yeah. I just thought I got just a little nervous there. That's what I was going to say. That sounds confident. It's a GPO. It's a group purchasing organization. And what it does is we, through the county, you sign up for membership. And I believe Commander Dull has already started that process. But the county signs up for membership. And through that, you make us a registered agent. But through that program, we're able to get Suboxone for a penny, a penny a tap. We're currently, we're paying. Almost 60 cents. And so that's just one example. There's also a diabetic medication that's significantly much lower priced than what we're currently paying. And so through our partnership here, through our contract, we have a pharmaceutical cap, an annual cap. And so at the end of the year, whatever's left of that cap, you get 100% of that back. And it's our goal to issue a refund at the end of the year. Yeah, we appreciate refunds. But also over the last year, we've also invested heavily in the team. Chris Hall just last year attended the National Commission on Correctional Health Care Conference, where she earned her correctional certification, health care certification, CCHP. And the same thing with Jim Garner, our mental health professional. And so, you know, we really invest heavily in our leadership and our team because, you know, it all starts with them. Anything more on that? Yes, I was able to attend the conference and get certified. We took a test. And hopefully we will continue, you know, attending the courses. And it's specifically related to jail, recruitment, nurse burnout. It's all those topics. So it was great. And we plan on continuing to hopefully move to a second certification, which is specifically for nurses. And how are you doing with your nurses? They're great. Hopefully in the future, you know, once we're fully staffed, we can also have them certified, especially when the Colorado jail standards are coming out. Hopefully we can all, you know. Yeah, Lou's going to update us on those Colorado jail standards. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And something else that we did just last year was Chriselle also attended the University of Denver's Daniel School of Business. And so she went through that session, again, just to invest in her and her leadership and all the things she's doing with our team was also fruitful as well. But sort of the elephant in the room is staffing. It's retention and recruitment and staffing, right? Right. And this region of the state, as you know, everyone here knows, it's extremely difficult in finding the right people and getting them, you know, having them willing to come in and work in the jail. And also finding people that are able to pass a background check. And it sounds simple, but we can tell you stories. But so. Do we do drug analysis too when you're hiring or is that part of it? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And so as part of this renewal, we're contracted, the county has contracted with us on an annual basis to increase our contract by 5% every year. And so for the last three years, 100% of that 5% has gone into our people, gone to our team, gone into compensation rates, gone into just all the things to support the team here. Roughly 70 to 75% of our total program costs, the price tag goes back to the team, goes back to benefits and wages. And that's no different through this renewal as well. But we're constantly thinking about, thinking of new ways to get the attention of nurses in the community, in the Western Slope and wherever. To get them to come in and take a tour and talk to us about correctional health care. And one of the things that we did, we're proposing through this renewal, is to increase our shift differentials. To feel those difficult, to feel shifts, the nights, the deep nights and the weekends. And so we're proposing to increase those rates considerably on top of the merit increases, the compensation rates. You want to talk about the nights and weekends? Yes, of course. Currently, right now, we actually will be needing agency nurses for the night shift. So there's two spots available, and those will have to be covered through agency, not local nurses. Okay, so you're contracting out to an agency to get those, are they traveling nurses? That's correct. That come in? Yeah, and I understand that Core Health actually has a flex team, but unfortunately, you know, we're short everywhere. So in this valley, it's really hard because it's very expensive. So we do have to get agency nurses at this time. How many positions do you have in the jail? Available? No, just no. How many positions total? It's 11. Positions and employees, I guess, is positions available? 11. 11. 11. 11. 11. 11. 11. 11. 11. And you're too short right now? For night shifts, yes. Okay. All right. We also draw from two different agencies. We're optioning to a third. So we try to make that as competitive as we can, too. We just don't go to one for that solution. We're also active in the community with nursing institutions. Colorado Mountain College, Denver College of Nursing, and Colorado Mesa University. We have someone on our team who's dedicated to doing nothing but going to these nursing schools and developing relationships with the dean of nursing and presenting to the nursing students. In fact, we just did that twice just recently in the last semester. Okay. So do you have any other Colorado contracts? Yes, sir. We're currently in Garfield County, City and County of Broomfield, Larimer County, and Adams County. And then looking to expand as well throughout the state with the right counties. I'm just kind of curious, and maybe you don't know this, but for what you pay a nurse to be on a night shift, how does that compare to a night shift nurse at Grand Valley or Grand River Hospital and Rifle or Valley View in Glenwood? I'm just curious. Maybe you don't know that. So every contract that we go through, either a renewal or a brand new contract, we do a salary survey of the area, and it expands out usually about 50 miles geographically. And we are coming in at the top of the range when we're modeling in order to attract the staff into the jail. Remember, we're all fishing from a very small pool of qualified individuals and then those who are even interested in correctional health care. These people are in short demand anyway. Yeah. And I would just, the reason I ask that question is, I mean, obviously the clientele. I mean, I'm sure a lot of people that are in nursing probably have some real reservations of going and working in that kind of a situation. And I get that. And you'd have to pay top dollar to do that. Well, take a look at the last page. I mean, you guys are paying six figures. Mm-hmm. All right. That's correct. All right. Look at that. Proposed cost annually. On the staffing grid? Yeah. It's on the grid here? Yeah. Some of those are for the entire 2.1 FTEs that's requiring. That's where you see that total. But yeah, the base pays. That's what the total is. Yeah. So the base pays. Annually. I mean. Yeah. That's for all those two shifts. That's two. That's two FTEs. Yes, sir. Okay. It's not one. It's going one. Yes, sir. Mike, I want to touch on just what you said about the difficulty. CMC just graduated, I think, 12 people in their nursing program. And even after they were presented with the opportunity to get into correctional health care, only one of them showed any interest whatsoever. To do that. So, again, it's a difficult position. It's tough. You can work at a pediatric clinic with kids or you can work in a job. So it's difficult. You have to have the right kind of person. I get it. It's really no different than when we hired detention deputies. It's got to be the right kind of person to be able to work in that environment. Yeah. And we successfully hired one of those individuals, right? That's correct. And they passed their state board of nursing and is now working with Chris Hall. As one of our new graduate nurses. You got a tough hall. You know, you've got to sell that. They're going to be safe, number one. I mean, most of them, I'm going to assume, are females. Most of them. There's some male teachers. But teachers. Education background here. Sorry. Nurses. Most of them are females. And they're probably a little hesitant there. Saying, I'm not quite sure I want to do that. Well, actually, that's a great point, Commissioner. That's one of our objectives is going out and discussing the facts of correctional health care. And the fact is, working in these jails, working as a nurse in these jails, is absolutely the safest place a nurse can work. You read the paper, you hear stories a lot of time where there are assaults and other things that happen in hospitals. Hospitals don't have the same security protocols and, you know, things that our detentors do. Our nurses are never without an officer. And the service officers here are fantastic. I mean, they're a great partner. We're never without them. We're never any place where we're not under camera and behind a locked door. So we've never had an issue here. And we've never had an issue at any of our sides. So it's our job, really, to go out. And it's one of the things we're doing in these nursing schools is talking about the facts of correctional health care, that this is the safest place to work. And it not only pays well, it supports well through training and all the support that we're doing. You know, last year at Nurse, an officer appreciation week, we were here with cake and cards and showing appreciation for the team. But it's the safest place to work. Our philosophy is sort of always they're inmates first, then patients, right? And a lot of people in health care obviously have not had that experience where they're just patients. But we do, and I can't say that it doesn't cost a little extra, but we do make sure that the security is utmost. We pair them up with deputies when they're contacting inmates, passing out meds, whatever it might be. But, again, we have to remember they're still inmates and they're still in the jail for a reason, so we want to provide that layer of security. And I agree with what Todd said. You never know what's going to happen to somebody in the ER with no security, no ability to help pin somebody off if they go off the deep end. But in the jail, our medical staff is very well protected. Commissioner, to your point about costs, when you look at what a person can do at a hospital and cost, it's a 10% to 15% balance where we have to come in with a higher salary compared to a person who can go into a hospital situation. So it's a 10% to 15% cost factor with that, too. We have to pay more. Yep. I understand. So if you know any nurses, we're hiring. Everybody is, right? Yeah. Your competition's tough. It is. That's not against just a limited pool of employees. But we're awfully proud of our partnership. And, again, it's been a terrific partnership since July 1 of 23. And although our, what you'll see on page 14 in the middle. 11. 11. There's a reason for the. I feel you're paying. 11. Yeah. The middle section in red. Although we're contracted at a 5% annual CPI increase, we've invested 5% into the team, into the shift differential. But we're conceding 1%. And, again, this is a, you know, we understand. We talked two years ago about the price of this being, about increasing and about being what it is. And I wish we could do something about that. But it's literally, it's a cost of doing business. And it costs more to do more. And we need Chris Saul and Jim and our team here to be high-performing, locally-based, and doing the things they're doing. And so, but as a strong partner here, over the last three years, and hopefully four, five, and many more, we're volunteering to concede 1%. And so, we're coming into this renewal conceding a $26,000 savings for the county. And what kind of refund are we getting back on the drugs that are used? In the current fiscal year, so what I'll say is, in our past track record of several years, about $40,000 a year for our cap for pharmacy is pretty accurate. This past few months, unfortunately, we've had some higher-cost medications. And so, we will exceed it. The $40,000, but $40,000 is a good number to normally keep in our regular contracts. And some of that is just, we did get some funds back last year, I believe, and the year before, actually. And the cap was a little higher. I think it was $55,000. We decided reducing to $40,000 made a lot of sense. And so, unfortunately, this is just the way things go. We can't predict every medication or circumstance. But, yes, when we don't hit that $40,000 in the state fiscal year, we do get a refund. We also get a refund for vacant positions, although then, in turn, we have to pay some higher difference, you know, with travel nurses. But, at least we're getting refunded when we have those vacancies as well. You know, in the pharmaceutical thing, I mean, we've had a good track record, been consistent. But, if we have somebody with AIDS and they require AIDS medication, that will blow the lid off of your budget in no time. It's extremely expensive medications. Yeah, cancer medications, biologics, yeah, they hit very quickly. Diabetes can be really expensive, too. And we have to provide it. So, Tim, I'm looking at you. You're paying a premium for health care in our jail. And the reason we're paying for that is because we don't want to have lawsuits or deaths. So, risk management, that falls on you. And you want to just give us a preview of what's going on over there and what you're doing? You know, that's a great question. I think we had an interesting case this year in which Graham and Heather had to coordinate that process. Just, you know, where the responsibilities go sometimes when we're taking inmates to other jails and things of that nature, right? And how it falls back on us. But on a general basis, from a risk and liability standpoint, we have, I have access to general counsel that we come in as an example. One of the benefits is we have an annual year situation in which we bring in Chris Ola and other leaders into a retreat process. And one of the things we do is we always bring in our claims and liability professional counselors, you know, legal counsel. We come in and talk about what those management responsibilities are to documentation, what those management responsibilities are to handle a deposition if those ever occur. So, those are the kinds of behind the scenes that we manage. And then it really comes down to, like, when we're in a, Todd mentioned one case that we have. We have a pro se case. So, we manage that with general counsel, with our general counsel as well. And so, we just, we continue to look at it forward-facing in terms of how we're going to really kind of look at the objective of making sure our team is managing those things. Medical records when we're putting those kinds of things out for the county. So, it's just, it's that sort of situation. When we have, one of the things we work closely with, with the sheriff is, too, is we've talked about cancer medications. When we've got people that are coming in and they're going to have a particular situation where maybe the risk and liability of their care within the facility might be, it's not that we're not capable of providing it, but it might be more complicated that we try to make those situations where we try to move those people out. So, we keep in real big contact with that sort of situation with our CMO. But, I would say from a general standpoint, the jail standards, what we're doing with NCHC, what we do with those kinds of things in making our policies strong, although not overtly too strong. We want those policies to be able to give us enough room to be able to manage the situation. And I think it really comes out, really, I mean, the auspices of our relationship really starts out at the contract level. If you write a solid contract and you keep the expectations correctly in front of you, what those costs are and how we do that, we can be forward-facing with our management costs and risk and liability. And that's where we have our nurses doing the auditing. It just all kind of flows together, if that makes sense. But when you don't have a claim and liability inside the county, it's a very strong, positive statement that Chris Ola and the team are doing the things that they need to do correctly, right? Just another version of this, too, another forward-facing aspect. When we have agency nurses come in, we make sure that they have a review of our policy and procedure before they ever step on board into the actual floor duties responsibility. And we work with that. Orientation and training that we continually do. There's a bit of a brevity of moment of explanation there that goes on. And how we deal with annual training on an orientation basis and orientation when Chris Ola brings in a new nurse. Your detox issue, your intake issue, your suicide prevention program. Those are the kinds of things that are really trained from that standpoint. I'm actually involved from a risk and liability standpoint. I came up with something that I think is important, and we're going to be bringing that into training, is compassion fatigue. Chris Ola used a word a moment ago. If you go back and review that, she said, you know, just the burnout situation. So compassion fatigue, about how do you help your team members and security understand the flow of what that's going on always in front of that inmate. How do you manage that fatigue process? So if you can do that effectively, then it keeps everybody focused on what the patient needs are at that point. So I don't know if that answered your question. I sort of took a big swath of range. But if you have a specific question, I'll try to answer that. Tom, if I could, I just want to add into that. You know, risk management is always, they drive me crazy, quite frankly. But in law enforcement, as you know, we have high risk. I've lived in that world for 40 years. But we mitigate that, of course, with training and procedures and keeping up with case law and all that. But I run a law enforcement agency. I don't run a medical facility. So when Tim says something's got to be done, I have a great deal of respect for him that it needs to be done because he's the expert in the medical field. We might argue about, you know, what our pursuit policy says. That's my area of expertise. But when it comes to the medical stuff that needs to be done, he's the guy that keeps up with the case law. He's the guy that knows. He's the guy that brings that in. And as we all know, every time we're adding on, you know, additional risk mitigation, there's more time involved, more money involved to make sure that, you know, we do that. We train, you know, on the latest and greatest thing that we have to do to mitigate risk. And, you know, and again, I just wanted to kind of throw in there that I have great respect for what Tim says and brings to the table because he's the expert in the field and I'm not the expert in the medical field. So I rely on him to keep our jail safe and to keep us really out of trouble in that area of what our responsibility is. Now, I would add one item, too. Sometimes when somebody else is speaking, you kind of trace back in your mind another thing. But there's something that both Heather and Graham have been a part of, Commander Valerio and Sheriff Valerio. We go out to Las Vegas. We go to a conference called the ABLE, Americans for Effective Law Enforcement. And they have a big three- or four-day conference in which they basically talk about all the legal issues facing jails. And one of the topics this year was really talking about the burnout of team members, the security team, and how do you manage that process. So, Dave, your team here is making a commitment to go beyond themselves to get into the opportunities to hear what's going on on a United States level about what kinds of lawsuits and how to prevent them and that sort of thing. So I think that's really a positive commitment to make sure that they're there. And I'm there. We're the only medical. Todd has made a commitment for me to attend. I've attended that now for five years. And so just being a part of that and being around medical people, you know, the security about how they see things. Yeah. There are 300 people in the room when I was there a couple years ago, and they asked how many people are here from medical firms, and Tim was the only one that raised his hand. Yeah. So they obviously are concerned about that liability where some of these other companies may not be, or maybe they have alternate ways of doing it. So one of the things I did want to also mention is I'm seeing over the years as being the sheriff and running a jail is there's clearly a shift more towards mental health issues, restoration, competency, and all that stuff, which, of course, we add to that question. We're always talking about those unfunded mandates in the jail standards. If we classify an inmate in a certain level, basically where we have to administratively segregate them, and it's over a certain period of time, we have to do mental health and medical checks every 12 hours. We have to file a report with the state every time those checks are done. And so, again, added administrative work, added costs, added labor, and, again, all unfunded mandates that we're required to do. Heather, do you want to touch on that from your perspective, risk management? You know, from a risk management perspective, I would just say we're also very happy with the relationship that we've had with Core Health, really from the beginning. When they first came in, we had a very significant and serious situation happening in the jail where the other medical provider was not really proactive with us, and we worked directly with, and Graham specifically, you know, worked directly with their medical director, and they were fantastic in really backing us up, and I think they helped us save somebody's life in the jail. And so I would just say that, you know, we've been really happy with the relationship. And like Sheriff Alario, I also trust him. I think he is excellent at what he does. And so I understand also that this is the county's biggest contract, but it's also the county's biggest liability. And so they're an excellent group. And really the services that they provide are really fantastic. And so, and it's a difficult, it's a difficult, difficult job. And certainly you guys all, you know, recognize that. But from a lawsuit perspective, you know, we've also been, knock on wood, you know, happy with that circumstance. Because that is, you never know, people file lawsuits all the time, especially pro se people. And so we're never, you know, to have zero lawsuits is excellent, but I don't, you know, that's probably not a realistic goal every single year. It was good for this last year. It's great. It's absolutely, it's the gold standard, right? But there's, you know, you can't control everybody who files a lawsuit. So, yeah, we've been extremely pleased with this contract. But I think we've learned from mistakes other agencies have made. Graham just sent us last week a $33 million lawsuit out of Oklahoma because they were doing in-house care and the nurse was diagnosing over the phone and the deputies weren't treating the guy properly and eventually died in their custody. After I got done reading the lawsuit, I returned Graham, I'm like, only $33 million? And then I just heard today at a Houston or Harris County $308 million lawsuit that was settled on an inmate there because of the way she was treated or, more accurately, not properly treated. So we learned from those mistakes out there by other agencies, and we're happy to let them make those mistakes. We want to avoid making them here. Yeah, we also read those articles as well. And we're, we love being in this seat rather than those. There was another recent litigation out of Michigan where one of our competitors lost a $307 million lawsuit. No one died. Oh, wow. It was a $919 procedure they denied. No one died. 300, and now this company is filing for their second bankruptcy. Yeah. And so it's just, it's, we, we live and work on the notion and the heartfelt composition of doing the right thing. And those that, you know, as commissioners and those, those of you leaders that are here in the community, you care about your community. And to us, you know, these guys are tired of hearing me say this all the time, but those who we care for, those in the jail today, or somebody is somebody. I have a sister in, in Weld County, and she has mental health issues. And she's been in the jail, in and out of jail more, more times than I know. And she's my somebody. And it might be your sister, it might be your cousin, somebody, somebody. And so we, so we treat them with compassionate care. Yes, these are inmates, but these are, these are people. And they're going to be released. And so we, we, we, we had the obligation responsibility to take care of them now at a standard, right? Because if we don't do it now, if we want safer and cleaner communities, we have, that's, that's our responsibility. And so I'm proud of what we're doing here. I'm proud of our, of our partnership. Cannot thank you and sheriff and commanders enough for the partnership for the last three years. And we look forward to 20 more. You know, one more thing too, and Mike is more apt to speak on. And I'm not sure if I'm on this and just myself, but we are looking at with the county of, of changing our, our medical record situation. And there's some strong benefits that we see that we were going to be able to implement some even more. And we talk about doing audits, right? And, and, and looking at those, but those are, those are line items that have already occurred, right? But what we're looking at is forward facing about how to stop that, that situation from occurring present tense. And Mike might be able to speak to that a little bit. Yeah. So we've outpaced where core health is so innovative as a company. We've outpaced the current medical record vendor. They can't keep up with kind of the innovation ideas that we have from the operation side and from all the input that we get. So, you know, we're, there's a, we've moved over to a different EMR in some of our other counties that has been wildly successful. It gives us greater insight into the records. It gives us what we call, we have a proprietary name for it called red alert. And so the minute something is documented incorrectly, a vital anything, it's sending out note in time notifications, live notifications to our chief medical officer, the HSA and whoever we decide. And they are accessing those records in real time in order to either review that red alert or devalidate it, say it was a, just a keystroke error or something. And we have that corrected. So just constantly innovating, constantly trying to mitigate as much risk as we can. And unfortunately, the current EMR vendor can't keep up with us. So we've, we've had to migrate to a different one, but something we've talked about here in Garfield County implementing as well. You know, mitigating risk, I just thought of too, is, you all may not know this, but when arresting officers, the other agencies bring people to the jail. If there's any, any obvious medical issues, if somebody's got a broken arm, well, obviously they're going to take them to the hospital first because we won't accept them. We can't set broken arms. We can manage it once it's taken care of by, you know, an ER doctor or whatever. So they have to take them to the hospital. So we're already getting medical clearance on some of these people that are presenting injuries, issues, even, even substance abuse stuff ahead of time before we even accept them. Sometimes they get into the jail and medical assess and say, sorry, but they've got, you know, their blood pressure's through the roof or something's going on or, or they just got into a crash and they're, you know, they probably need some type of examination and will require the arresting officer to take them to the hospital. But that only happens about 4% of the time. So only about 4% when our arresting officer showing up with the restees where we say, you know, sorry, we won't accept them until you bring them to the hospital. So we've got a good working relationship with all the agencies where they kind of know, yeah, I better bring this guy to get clearance first. So I guess the point I'm trying to make is in terms of a risk management, we're already getting care and treatment on some of these people at the hospital level before we accept them and are able to take care of whatever issues exist for them. So I guess for situations where you may have somebody that's really drunk or really high on some sort of drug, do you take them to the ER first or do you have to deal with that at the jail? The answer I think would be probably most times, yes, they would go to the ER just because we don't know what their blood alcohol is. And that obviously can be critical or fatal. But once that all take care of and they are brought in the jail, we have a detox protocol, which maybe Kusol could talk about how we manage those type of cases. So yeah, that's correct. We do have like a medical clearance form that all nurses follow. If we see that the patient inmate is unable to walk and is unstable or sometimes they allow us to do a breathalyzer, we actually see the score. Based on that, we know we can keep them or leave them. It also depends on their history. The drug that they're reporting, if they are willing to share information with medical, we really try our best to keep them and not send them out if we are able to manage. But we don't risk it either. You know, if they're not willing to work with us, then we just play it safe and send them to the ER once they come back. We don't even wait until we book them in. Right then and there, we do a quick pre-screening and they are placed on a detox right away. And then they are assessed every three times a day. I know our policy is changing, so we're going to, you know, train the nurses on that. We call the provider. They call me. I'm on call 24-7. Usually the night shift, agency nurses tend to call me throughout the night, which I'm already ready and prepared when it's agency. So we try our best to be on it, not miss anything. If the provider, for whatever reason, is unable to answer, they call me. We play it safe. We send them out. And to clarify, these are only people with criminal charges. We're not taking people in on a detox basis. We're not a community medical center. We're not a detox. They have to have criminal charges. Okay. Lou, what's our jail population right now? I think probably this morning like 58 or 60 right now. Yeah, and everybody that, I believe, everybody that we sent out for the wall project is back now. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So we had sent out mostly our female population to Mesa County and just to kind of help us when we're building the wall. Right. The wall is like 99% complete. We've returned all that population back, so we're looking at about it. I glanced at the briefing this morning. I want to say 58 to 61. Okay. Great. Anything else? I do want to thank you guys so much for your support, honestly, because we are able to be very successful due to your guys' support and the sheriff, under sheriff, Kathy. Any issue that we have, we bring it up to them, and they are always willing to listen, willing to come to you guys. So we are able to have a very strong team because we are able to receive what we need to be able to provide. So I am grateful. I've told Mr. Murphy that I don't think I would do this for a different jail. I truly would not. But I definitely am committed to Garfield County, and I really appreciate all your support and you guys supporting the sheriff and the under sheriff because they support us. So thank you. Okay. Todd, you want to wrap it up? I think we've said enough. Okay. Unless you have questions. No, we've been asking questions as we go. Commissioner Sampson? I'm good. I'm good. There's a lot here. It's important information. If you have a hard time sleeping, this will help. But it's important. Again, we're proud of what we're doing here. We're extremely grateful for your support and trust. Yeah, thanks for dropping in and giving us an update. Thank you. Bye. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Good to see you. We're through action items. Mr. Jarman. Yes, sir. No, that concludes your action items and presentations this morning. Okay. So with that, we'll go to the county attorney's report. Yeah. And so I do have a couple of items scheduled for an executive session this morning. So upon the affirmative vote of two-thirds of the commissioners, the board will adjourn to executive session pursuant to Colorado Revised Statute 246402.4B and E. Second, with its attorneys for the purpose of receiving legal advice on specific legal questions and determined positions relative to negotiations regarding Garfield County Court Case 25C.30403. Colorado Federal District Court Case 25C.01854. And a potential conflict of interest matter with outside counsel at Kaplan-Kirsch. Okay. With that, do we have a motion? Second. Call the question. All in favor? Aye. Aye. So what do you think is the time on that? Maybe 30 minutes. Okay. Well, let's take a 10-minute break. Okay. And then we'll reconvene about 940. Okay. Excellent. And get to your executive session. Great. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Mr. Sampson, need a motion come out of executive session? So moved. I'll second that. All in favor? Aye. And I don't believe we have anything to talk about? That's right, Chairman. In public? Yep. There is no topics outside of those notice were discussed, and no formal action needs to be taken at this time. So that's all I have from the executive session. Okay. We are to, I guess, we're to our meetings for the week. Do you have any calendars? I do not have any calendars. Yeah. I think, as you know, the legislative session has... I need to go get my calendar. Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Excuse me. I'll let Heather do her updates, and I'll come after that. Were you going to say the legislative session? Now that I have all the power, this is what we're going to do. Yes. We are real close to the end here. Although... My calendar, too. Oh, yeah. It's just like this, we're just hanging on. So we have a week for late bill drops. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I was just saying that the legislative session is coming to a close this week. That, hallelujah. I think there's one more AG&C call on Thursday to wrap that up, but that's really all I have. Aside from my other meetings this week, I don't have any other BOCC stuff until next Monday. And that's all I have, so I don't have any other updates. Okay. Good. Okay. Thank you. Just one update in the calendar. So we're wanting to let the board know we've received 11 responsive proposals as a result of our workforce analysis RFP that went out. That was a directive of the board. And so we're meeting actually today to go over those. So it's a very strong response, just to let the board know. It's very good. So I look forward to that process of keeping you involved and in the loop as we progress. To, let's see, your next board meeting is a pretty quiet week. Generally speaking, but your next board meeting is Monday the 18th, 8 a.m. start. Tuesday, May 19th, is the work session that you have moved from last week. And I'd like to ask that that be moved from a 9 a.m. to an 8 a.m. start. It is a healthy agenda. What do you have on that work session? I've got four topics for the board. One is the update regarding the formation of the child care district. Okay. Coming in to you to present. On that, we have Valley Meals and More. Don't we have a child care district through 7a? That's who it is. It is who it is. They want to come in and give you a briefing on where they are with their formation. Oh, briefing. Okay. Sorry. Yeah, their structural formation, commissioners. Okay. Great. Then you have Valley Meals and More coming, and you knew about that one. Also, a work session on short-term rentals. And then also we have Gary Knopfinger is coming in with the second AI presentation. You recall the first one where they had the gentleman on Zoom that talked about the AI platform. So those are the four. And so with that, I would like to ask the board to start at 8. Can you counsel with that, Commissioner Sampson? You're the one who has to get up early. I'm fine. Get here. Okay. 8 a.m. I think it would help give you some more time. I'd just soon be done by noon. Okay. All right. Thank you for that. Then we have Wednesday, May 20th. This is from 5.30 to 7.30, the Bookcliff, Mount Sopras, and Southside Landowner Appreciation Barbecue. That's at Veteran Park in Silt. 5.30. 5.30 to 7.30. Also, that same day, earlier in the day, this is the May 20th, 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. is the AGNC's board meeting and EDD meeting, Economic Development District meeting. That is in Rifle in the Grand Valley Room. That's AGNC? Second store. That's AGNC. At 9. In the county admin building. Second floor. Yes, sir. Monday, May 25th, Garfield County offices are closed that can be closed in observance of Memorial Day. Tuesday, May 26th, is our next regular elected officials meeting. Thank you, Commissioner Sampson is going to attend that on the board's behalf. Thursday, May 28th, from 7.30 a.m. to 10 a.m. That's our next Garfield County Economic Development meeting in this room. I need to touch base with Vola and make sure Center of Excellence is still going to be here. And she has, Commissioner. Okay. So they are on tap. So that's the focal point of the discussion. But you could talk to her just anyway. But I spoke with her last week and she was all over it. So I think you're good to go. Good. So I'm looking forward to that. Then we also have the CCI Summer Conference in Dillon coming up. That's Monday through Wednesday, June 1st through the 3rd. And so we'll have our BOCC meeting in the morning. That is our plan with you. And I know Rob's been all over talking to ComDev. I don't think we have anything to do that. I think that works fine. The afternoon. So you're good to go. That way you can cut loose and get over to Dillon. And then finally on my list is Thursday, June 18th. I mentioned it to the board last week. This is the ribbon cutting for the Hanging Lake Trail Project. That is at 10 a.m. at the trailhead. So that's all I have. Is it 4th? Yes, sir. No, Thursday at 10 a.m. 10 a.m. is what I've got. Thursday the 4th at 10 a.m. Thursday, June 18th. Oh, it's the 18th. Okay. That is a day for the Jolt Conference. Oh, you mentioned that before. That's right. Okay. Sounds like I'll keep it on here just if you free up. But there you go. That's all I had. Right. Okay. What's your saying? Empson. I think you covered everything that I would mention for May. So turning to June. Just taking it out a little bit longer there. BOCC meeting on the 8th. Work session on the 9th. Correct? That's correct. Yes, because you're a CCI. That's a good ed. Yeah, it's part of the work session. Well, no way. You're in June. You're in June. I'm in June. So what is on the 9th? We don't know. It's a work session. So probably don't have... I don't have that agenda. They'll cross off early childhood. Because we're going to see them on the 19th. Yeah, I'll double check with Bola on that. But that's what I... I'll erase that. I know. It's about other things. Well, but you're raising a good point, Commissioner, because June 8th is your... Excuse me. June 1st is your regular BOCC meeting. And then June 2nd, of course, was your work session. But that's been pushed because of CCI. Right. And so it's on the 9th, yeah. So I'll double back with you. Okay. On the 10th is the Federal Mineral East meeting at 9th. And then just so you know, in way of preparation, on the 15th, we are scheduled for our regular BOCC meeting. The Federal Mineral East District, as we have done in the past, is going to give you a presentation during that. On the 15th of June? On the 15th of June. And plus we have CDOT. So it's going to be... That meeting is going to... Even if it's a rolling agenda, we'll roll into the afternoon. It will. Right. Now, see, what I've got here is our meeting with CDOT is from 8 to 10. That's correct. And then our regular meeting starts at 10. 10 o'clock, yes. And then Federal Mineral East will give a presentation. I... 30 minutes. Okay. Is... Yeah. I think it's great to have FMLD in front of us just talk about all the things, the positive things that have happened in our county as far as capital construction. Okay. The report was excellent. Yeah. Yeah. Really good. The 16th is a work session joint meeting with Carbondale at 6. Yes. That's right. Right. Town hall. Have you met the new town manager for Carbondale? I've reached out to him, Brian, I believe his name is, and we haven't connected yet. Okay. But we will. And Erica Sparhark will be the... New mayor. New mayor. And then on the 17th, we have a new, another AGNC meeting down in Grand Junction from 1 to 5, followed by, in conjunction with Jolt, on the 18th and 19th in Grand Junction at Colorado Mesa University. That night, the 17th, will be a speaker's reception at the Hotel Maverick. So I'll be in Grand Junction Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. of that week. And I think Perry's going to be there as well. So just... There we go. All right. I guess that's it. Okay. Quickly for me, just meetings that haven't been talked about. There's a RAFTA meeting 9 a.m. at Mortgage Commons on Thursday. And that's half hour, I think, of business. Then they're going into a retreat. I don't know. I'm going there. I don't have any comments about RAFTA up the valley, but I think it's important that we be represented for the down valley issues. So I'll just kind of play that one by ear, try to get an agenda. Then Friday, 1 p.m., I have a GCE meeting, then back to the board meeting on the 18th. Sorry. All right. I think that's it. That's all. We can be adjourned. Thank you very much. Thank you. Oh, wait. Don't go off the air yet. One more thing. One more thing. I got a letter here. And it was, I just want to mention it. It's an interesting letter. It's from a student at Grand Valley High School. And I'm sure she's not listening, but I just want to say Estrella Valdez, and I'm not sure how to say your last surname there, H-I-N-O-J-O-S-A. Can anybody help me with that? Quinojosa. Thank you. Thank you. And lives in Paragat, and she's basically writing to me because she's quite concerned about the streets in parachute, okay, and is asking for better crosswalks, clear signs, ways to slow down traffic. She feels it's unsafe, and so on. The reason I'm saying that is I'm going to forward this to Parachute Town Council. This is in Parachute, not Battlement. It says parachute. Well, it says in our area, but she's talking about some roads, but it seems like she's mainly concerned about Parachute itself. So I'm going to, but it has a phone number, and I am going to call her and talk to her, but I'm going to forward this letter there. So I just thought I'd let you know. Thanks. Okay. Thank you. And do we start this Monday or next Monday on the bridge on County Road 108? I think it's 108 by CRMS. So the contractor should be out there today. They're going to be removing the asphalt. Hopefully by tomorrow we'll be able to... So it's closed down as of tomorrow. As of this morning. That's important. That gets out to the public. So I saw... In fact, it's important to tell my wife. Yeah. There has been, Tom. There has been messaging out. I have seen that, yeah. Okay, thanks. Thanks for asking about that. But it's good to just bring that up again. So... Yep. Okay. All right. Now we can be adjourned. Thank you. We're off the... Thank you.

Board of County Commissioners meeting and we'll start off with a roll call. Graham, good morning. I'll see you there. Good morning. Commissioner Wills. President. Chairman Jankowski. President. Commissioner Samson. Here. You all join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. If you could stay standing, please, and join me in a moment of silence in your own way. Okay, thank you. With that, we are at public comments from citizens not on the agenda. Is there anybody in the audience who has an item that's not on the agenda? Okay, I'm not seeing any hands raised. Roy, how are we? Do we have any hands up on Zoom? Roy Bhandari: No hands on Zoom. Okay, with that, we can move forward and we go right to Commissioner Will requesting a letter of support for the 2027 Community Project funding request for the Western Slope Veterans Coalition. And with that, I'm going to turn it over to you, Mr. Will. Thank you, Mr. Jarrett. And yeah, this is just a letter of thing that we support this and as two congressmen heard for the funding. Roy Bhandari: Yeah. On behalf of the Garfield County Commission, we're pleased to offer strong support for the Western Slope Veterans Coalition and a community project funding request for the Veterans Community College's tiny home project there in S ilt. And Garfield County, we've always supported the West Slope Veterans and we've even extended that beyond advocacy. Roy Bhandari: But we provide rent-free office space next door here for them to carry out their mission and sustain investments to local veterans by hiring dedicated V SOs or veteran service officers. So the broad commitment from Garfield County and our veteran community to have the resources, support they need. Roy Bhandari: And so there'd be about 22 tiny homes there and a couple of like 1500 square foot homes there. It's on a two acre parcel there. And so, but request this for funding for Congressman Hertz officer. Congressman Hertz: Excellent letter. So thank you, Mr. Shamsen. Roy Bhandari: All for it. Congressman Hertz: Yeah, me too. And this is, I believe the location is just north of the Cowboys Church. Roy Bhandari: It is. Roy Bhandari: Actually just south. Roy Bhandari: South of the Cowboys Church, all in that open field there. Roy Bhandari: Yeah. Roy Bhandari: Okay. Roy Bhandari: And this is, you know, they're requesting a total of $5.3 million. So let's hope that they have some luck on this. Okay. With that, I'll ask for any public comment from citizens. Hearing none, I'll ask for a vote on this. Roy Bhandari: Mr. Chairman, we're on motion. Roy Bhandari: Yeah. Roy Bhandari: Mr. Chairman, we're on motion. Roy Bhandari: We approve that community project funding approved the request for the Western Veterans Coalition and the Veterans Colleges and for the support of the letter to Congressman Hurd. Roy Bhandari: Allow all three to sign second. Okay. I'll call a motion. All in favor? Roy Bhandari: Aye. Roy Bhandari: I'm going to go out of order now on the agenda. Roy Bhandari: On the agenda. Roy Bhandari: We're going to go to the clerk's office, Shelley. Roy Bhandari: And this is on a special events public hearing for the Carbondale Wild West Roy Bhandari: Rodeo Series. Roy Bhandari: So please come up. Roy Bhandari: And with this, this is a public hearing. Roy Bhandari: Yes. Roy Bhandari: I would. Roy Bhandari: Well, I guess we'll swear you in then and then do notification. Roy Bhandari: Okay. Roy Bhandari: Everybody that wants to testify in this, raise your right. That's not a lawyer. Roy Bhandari: Raise your right hand. Roy Bhandari: Promise to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Roy Bhandari: The help of God. Roy Bhandari: Thank you. Roy Bhandari: So, wait, wait. Roy Bhandari: Now we need to just check with Graham on notification. Roy Bhandari: Are we good on notification? Roy Bhandari: I believe we are, Mr. Chuck. Roy Bhandari: Okay. Roy Bhandari: All right. Roy Bhandari: Okay. Roy Bhandari: Back to you, Shelley. Roy Bhandari: Okay. Roy Bhandari: So in front of you is an application for the Carbondale Wild West audio event. Roy Bhandari: It's the 12 events through summer, every Thursday night of starting June 4th through August 20th. Roy Bhandari: We present all 12 at the one hearing so that we don't have to come back every single week and do it. Roy Bhandari: By statutes, they are allowed up to 15 days or 15 events in one calendar year. Roy Bhandari: So they're meeting or they're within that guideline. Roy Bhandari: And they have included their alcohol control plan, ID checks at bar, wristbands and security. Roy Bhandari: But other than that, we are just happy to have them back again this year. Roy Bhandari: We hope the event keeps going every year. Roy Bhandari: Okay. Roy Bhandari: Who's going to speak for you, Jasmine or Mike ? Who's going to speak for this? Roy Bhandari: Jashin. Jashin Wise. Yeah. Roy Bhandari: Well, we're happy to be back. Roy Bhandari: Happy to have you back. It's a big event for Carbondale. Roy Bhandari: It is a great event. Roy Bhandari: Yeah. Roy Bhandari: Yeah. Roy Bhandari: Yeah. Roy Bhandari: Yeah. Roy Bhandari: So we, you know, we're asking that you approve our alcohol plan for our special events permit. Roy Bhandari: We run 12 weeks through through the summer, June 4th to August 20th, every Thursday night from 7:00 to 9:30, 7:30 to 9:30 roughly. Roy Bhandari: But we're looking forward to another great year this year. Roy Bhandari: So. Roy Bhandari: Jam packed. Roy Bhandari: Yeah. Roy Bhandari: Every Thursday. Roy Bhandari: Yeah. Roy Bhandari: We seem to be growing every year, it feels like so. Roy Bhandari: Been there a couple times. Roy Bhandari: Yeah. Roy Bhandari: We've been there a few times, right Perry? Roy Bhandari: Any questions from commissioners? Roy Bhandari: Well, yeah, I have a concern. You know, the wild west. Roy Bhandari: How wild do we get? Roy Bhandari: Not too. Roy Bhandari: We're trying to keep it toned up. Roy Bhandari: I'll have to say that. Roy Bhandari: I missed the chair, I just say that that's a well run rodeo and Mike and Gene and everyone does a wonderful job. They're their whole committee and I participate there every Thursday night. Roy Bhandari: So it's a well run show. Do a good job. Roy Bhandari: 110% support. Roy Bhandari: Okay. Roy Bhandari: My only question is on the on the map. Roy Bhandari: What are your boundaries for alcohol? Roy Bhandari: Is it this whole red? Roy Bhandari: Yeah, it's the property perimeter. Roy Bhandari: Okay. Roy Bhandari: Which we've done in the past that's been our boundary. Roy Bhandari: So it's fully fenced and we have entry points where security is at the checkpoints. Roy Bhandari: And so there's nothing allowed in or out. Roy Bhandari: And so they check the perimeter. Roy Bhandari: We have a back gate and a front gate. Roy Bhandari: And so that's the perimeter fully fenced. Roy Bhandari: All right. Roy Bhandari: Well, can a contestant then take their their alcohol back behind the back into the Roy Bhandari: I guess the rodeo area? Roy Bhandari: Yeah, I mean, they can technically yeah they can buy their beer at the bar and then Roy Bhandari: They can take it back to their trailer, you know, with with their horses and stuff. Roy Bhandari: But we don't allow anything in the in the grounds from outside. Roy Bhandari: Which I understand that very much. Roy Bhandari: People don't necessarily understand that they need to be able to bring in their six pack or something or Roy Bhandari: Yeah, I think they really started to the last because we've been implementing this now for the last few years. Roy Bhandari: We're not having near the trouble that we'd had in the beginning, and we said it was probably a three year process of getting people trained just to be able to Roy Bhandari: You know, understand because for years you were allowed to bring in your own. Roy Bhandari: And so we had to we had to kind of swap that. Roy Bhandari: But now we really haven't had an issue with it. Roy Bhandari: People are starting to figure it out and they 're actually grateful that we have it available on the premises now. So they don't have to carry in all their stuff. They can just go purchase it. So we hear a lot of great feedback about that. Okay. Any other questions? Mike? You did a great job. Okay. I'm going to ask for a motion to close the public hearing. Okay. With that, we'll need a motion. This is an action item. We need to vote on that. Oh yeah. All in favor. Okay. Now it's an action item. We approve the application for the special events permit for the Carbondale Wild West Rodeo Series in Carbondale. Beginning every Thursday, beginning June 4th and ending August 20th. Now the chair decides. Second motion. Okay. I'll call a question. All in favor. All right. All right. You got it. Thank you, gentlemen. Check your rodeos here soon. Appreciate it. Yeah. Hope to see you guys out there. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. With that, we are back to our elected official, Garfield County Sheriff. And this is a request for... The board knows it. This is a request to approve to fund and unfreeze one FTE, patrol deputy number two, the remainder of 2026. Amount of $76,015. And Lou and Kathy, you have the floor. Thank you. Just real quick to kind of go back to the whole rodeo thing. I just wanted to say that although we've had some struggles in the past, last year was seamless. And I'm looking forward to doing it again. And with our new mounted patrol, we're going to try to make sure we have at least two of our deputies and mounted patrol there every event to help with enforcement and crowd control and that kind of thing. So I think we've hopefully got past the bumps we've had in the past. And I think it's going to be a good event this year. Yeah. I just say, I didn't get a single phone call on parking last year. So that was really nice. Yeah. I don't know what all happened, but it was problem solved. So we're looking forward to it. We're looking to be able to have our mounted patrol there to help. So what we want to do is we have one position left in the patrol side of our house that is still frozen from the budget agreements that we did for this year. And we're at the point now where that's the only opening left in our patrol division. So we would like to unfreeze that so we could fill that. The obvious question I know you're going to ask is, but you still have vacancies showing on the chart, if you will. And those are in other areas of the sheriff's office, mostly in the jail. And we try to kind of departmentalize so that we don't start moving this one over there and that one over there and fudging around. We like to kind of keep those straight. No different than you certainly wouldn't take somebody from Road and Bridge and put them in finance if they were shorthanded, right? We try to keep them kind of in the same thing. So the other issue is to look at it in a snapshot in time and see how many openings we have. We have a continuous process of recruiting, testing, hiring , and that's ongoing. We've got people in the hopper right now that it normally takes about 60 days from the time they submit the application to go through all the processes we have to go through, oral boards, background checks, et cetera. So we don't want to wait till the last minute and say, you know, uh-oh, we'd like to fill that now since there are people kind of in that process somewhere of being able to fill those positions. I'm not guaranteeing all those positions will be filled, you know, in this month's testing, but that's why we also test next month and the following month to try to keep those positions as filled as possible. So essentially, we're just asking to unfreeze the one that's still in patrol, not the ones in the jail that we made an agreement to to build the wall. Okay. Well, I don't mind keeping some of those positions frozen, so. I'm sorry. I said I don't mind keeping some of those positions frozen for the year, but I'm one commissioner. So Jamaica, we, uh, Sheriff is under budget this year on vac ancies, about $400,000. Is that correct? Yeah, an average of the vacancies thus far this year would have played to $400,000. So the money's there within the budget. Would it take a budget supplement? Does it take a budget supplement on this? I shouldn't, right? It's frozen. It's not budgeted. But it's not budgeted. It's frozen, but we have savings from other vacancies. And thank you for mentioning that because I forgot to. Yeah. Okay, gentlemen. Any discussion? Any questions? Okay. It seems like the savings is there. Public, anybody from the public want to testify? I hear none. This is an action item. Mr. Chairman, I move that we would approve the request from the Sheriff's Department to unfreeze for one full-time deputy patrol, patrol deputy, I guess, to position for the remainder of 20 26 for the amount not to exceed $76,015. Allow the chair to sign. Second. Okay. Call the motion. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Okay, you got that one. Let's move to the next one. Thank you. Yeah, I think it's important to realize you're not asking to increase the budget. We've got the money and vacancy savings to fill it for the remainder of the year. I'll introduce this one. Authorize the chair to sign the state of Colorado jail behavior-based services grant for July 1st, 2026 through June 30th, 2027, which is the state's fiscal year, and award an amount of $389,500 for inmate programs and medical assistance treatment. I'm going to hand the floor to Kathy as far as how the JBBS works, the fact that this is a pass-through grant and the programs that are required. Yep. Our current grant, which ends this June 30th was awarded to us for $391,000 and change. So our new award for the next state fiscal year is about $2 ,000 less, which is great. It's mostly because of our hard work and dedication towards the program , our consistent reporting, and just our aggressiveness with moving the program forward internally as a team. So this grant will cover the full coordinator position, so her pay and her benefits. It'll also cover our contract with our counselor to do the required MAT assessments, which is med icated assistance treatment assessments that are required by the state, as well as therapy that's required. And then some other of our mental health expansion programs. So as they're leaving, how we assist them in kind of hand-holding and handing off to the services in the community, it helps with those expenses . And finally, the cost of the medication itself of about $16 5,000 annually. So that's all covered. It doesn't cover our health program, which is, doesn't cover any of our health programs. No, unfortunately not. But this is a big chunk of change. Yes. Yeah. Good news is all these required programs, it's not an unf unded mandate yet. We are getting money. Yeah. How many years have we received this grant? Well, it's changed over time. It's been called some other things in the past. So I would say this particular grant, since it started, maybe six, seven years. And prior to that, we did receive some funding in relation to this kind of program as well. So we have a good relationship with the state. I can't say that about all the other county jails, but we definitely work very hard on this program. And they're getting ready to, with this next grant , also add additional reporting requirements. So it's starting to morph as they typically do with grants to where the requirements, at least on the administrative side, are becoming a lot more extensive. But we do what we can. Yeah. All these programs and all this focus on inmate care, medical, mental health, treatment, handoffs, all that really kind of has grown significantly in the last several years. I mean, there was a time where we would open the door, throw them out the back door and say, "Good luck." Right? And then of course they're back in within a week. So a lot of these programs, and not just in Colorado, but across the country, clearly seeing that by providing these programs, giving treatment, doing these things that it does reduce recidivism. I can't tell you our numbers specifically, but across the board studies say that if we can provide these services while they're in jail, or even once they leave jail and hand them off to somebody in the community to do something, that the recidivism rate will reduce. So, but a lot of new programs over the last several years that we weren't dealing with in the old days. Okay. Any other questions? Any questions from the audience? If you don't see anything online, that this is an action item? Mr. Chairman, I would move that we authorize you as a chair to sign the State of Colorado Jail Behavioral-Based Services JBBS grant for July 1st of 2026 through June 30th of 27, in the amount of $389,500 for inmate programs and medicated assistant treatment. Second. Second. Okay. Call the question all in favor. Aye. Okay. You guys got it. Good to see you. Thank you gentlemen. Appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Next on our agenda is consent agenda. Any items that anybody would like to have pulled? I would like to pull number nine, just because I want to have Fred talk about that a little bit for broadband. Get that just highlighted a little bit. Sure. I don't know. But we still need a motion on the other eight items. Mr. Chair, I move it to approve the consent agenda items one through eight. Second. Okay. That I'm going to call the motion. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Okay. Item number nine, that's the letters to the NTI administrator and both our senators requesting that they direct the release of $406 million be non-development funding allocated to the state of Colorado, which is broadband. And it does affect us, obviously. That's why we've asked for the letter. And Fred, can you just discuss this where we are with broadband? And, you know, it's been a year since we actually had companies in front of us that were ready to go, I guess, take our broadband to individual homes. And that hasn't happened. So if you would just give us an update. Yeah, absolutely. And thank you. The very high level view of this is the county was very active, as you know, in building out the first mile and then middle mile network, predominantly the middle mile, which is all the infrastructure essentially that brings broadband to all of our towns. Right now, that's about almost a $6 million investment split between Garfield County and DOLA. That infrastructure is now physically in place. So we have reached out with these tentacles from the I-70 corridor that come into a, what's called a central location, right? And that's used to be called the Meet Me Center, a neutral carrier location. And that is , all of those spots are hot now. So in doing that, the same time the county was entertaining offers from different ISPs to come, four of which you saw before you asking for letters of support to apply for the first round of BED funding. And BED's Broadband Equity and Access Program, these were dollars that were released from the federal government down to the states. And that was through the EJA legislation. And that originally was about $42 billion spread across the United States. Colorado received about $825 million. And some of those dollars were awarded to companies in the first round. Problem was, or the challenge was, with the new administration, the rules and criteria around which an ISP was able to compete in an application process change dramatically. So those four companies that were in front of you before basically had a large reset on how they could apply for those dollars. And all of those ISPs are engaged in providing what's called the last mile. So that is fiber to the home, fiber to the business. And that is where we have constantly been since you've actually physically built out the middle mile. So we're still working with whoever we can, frankly, from the NTIA and the state broadband office to free up those non-deployment funds, which both of these letters talk about. That's about, I think you mentioned it, Commissioner, about $406 million that has not been awarded out. We know that there are companies that are still very interested in doing this. In the last round to go back, one of the companies that was successful in the first round of bead funding that did affect parts of Garfield County, mostly the eastern side, was Amazon. And that was for a low Earth orbit system. The challenge with that, none of those satellites are in the sky right now. So while the award was made, that's a long way off from coming to realization. And so both of these letters are meant to request that those remaining dollars for phase two, the second round, are redeployed so that we can make movements on this last mile and see what other companies are still interested. We do know of one or two that are. And so this is both of these letters. One is, of course, to your federal or your federal delegation. And then, of course, director Ariel Roth of the NTIA to say, please release those non-deploy ment funds. And so that's really what this is about so that we can continue to capitalize on the system that you physically build. That's where we are. Okay. And I have a question, Commissioner. Well, I just, and I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but why did they change the rules? Was there some big investigation that they said, this isn't going to do the job and we've got to make sure it's done right? And do you know the answer to that? I mean, I guess my point is we were going so far. We were going so well. Everything was just humming along. And all of a sudden we get two thirds through the stream and we go, oh, we've got to change horses there. Do you know why? Well, the only thing I could share is we do know that the last mile of broadband is very, very expensive. And however, the bead funding was to a degree that these companies were willing to do significant capital impact or development with the backing that they had. The federal government, when the change of the administration has lowered the bar that allowed other technologies to come in essentially, and which is satellite service. And so that is a lot of folks will tell you not quite as robust as a service with the problems that satellite service has compared certainly to broadband, hard line broadband in. And so I think in the federal government's eyes, they believe that this was sort of allowing a lot more people into the door to compete. And that's all I can share with you as far as I know. And it was a major reset. So it was the unfortunate part. You had companies who were really ready to go, literally ready to go with builds. And this changed the playing field dramatically. So I do know that there's still interest in it, but we'll have to see. So this idea here, Commissioner, is to try to move that ball at the federal level to keep this moving. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, I guess I would. And we are, you know, we are in each community in the Colorado River Basin. We have, we're middle miles there. As you said, neutral carrier locations are all in those communities. That's right. And we just can't, we need some help from the private sector to get that out to the individuals or individual businesses or even institutional businesses, I guess. Absolutely. The only thing I failed to mention that's really, really important is when the board set out on this journey with broadband, the whole idea was to provide service to around 4,000 that were non-served or underserved. And you've heard us talk about that forever. But that's really important, right? There's a lot of folks in the municipalities that do have service. However, that's a fairly finite service. And this would add not only service to those underserved, but also add a competitive edge that we believe is quite important. So you're right, Commissioner. We have those carrier-to-end, that are hot, that are lined up, ready to go. And I guess my concern is that the funds that were made available by the federal government were Inflation Red uction Act funds. And a lot of those funds have been clawed back. And let's just hope that this is so important to every rural county in the United States. Let's hope that that doesn't happen and they move forward. Okay. All right. Any other comments? There's no action. We do need action on this. We need to approve the two letters that have actually already been signed. So we need to ratify those two letters. Mr. Chairman, I move that we ratify the two letters sent to NITA. Administrator Roth and Senators Bennett and Hickenlooper and Congressman Hurd requesting they direct the release of $406 million in B's non-deployment funding allocated in the state of Colorado to be released by the state without delay . And make sure that ratification is signed by you, which it is. Thank you. May I call a motion all in favor? Hi. Okay. With that, we are going to go to our county manager, Mr. Jarman. Public meetings. First thing is the action item. There's a 2026 second quarter request for discretionary grant funding, which I think a lot of you in the audience are hearing for. I'll just make a couple of comments. One is that we have our 10 different nonprofits applying for this. And there's $30,000 available. And there's $30,000 available. So if we divide that by 10, that'd be $3,000 each. And that doesn't necessarily happen that way. But just to let you know. Also, when you're presenting, we're not going to allow any, I guess, slide decks. We just want a verbal presentation. So we can move this forward because there'll be, there's 10 of you and it'll take us probably an hour to get through all of this. So with that, Mr. Jarman, you have, you had the floor and move this meeting forward. Sure, you bet. Thank you. So as Commissioner said, we've got 10 requests totaling $48 ,000 right now. The balance in your discretionary grant budget is $91,500. For the benefit of everyone listening, the Board of County Commissioners doles this out on a quarterly basis. Today is a listening session to hear the requests. And then the following week is typically when the Commissioners will make those decisions. So just letting everybody know they don't make them today. But they'll certainly are eager to hear from the folks requesting. The max that anyone can request is $5,000. And kind of heard Mr. Jankowski in terms of what we have to dole out. So with that, as background, the first one, let me just introduce them one by one. The first one is there's a request for discretionary grant funding at $5,000. Dollars for Colorado Mountain College Foundation. This is in support of Garfield County scholarships for non- traditional students. Students funding. And Lisa Azurado, the development officer, is listed. Is she online? No, I'm here. Oh, you're here. Oh, you're here. Oh, come on. You're so quiet. Come on. You bet. Welcome. Yes. Good morning. Good morning. Yes. You have the floor, Lisa. Hopefully I got your name. This is one we're familiar with. Okay, great. Thank you for hearing me. The Garfield County Nontraditional Student Scholarship was established in 2012 to support nontraditional students at Colorado Mountain Colleges, Ro aring Fork, and Rifle campuses. Eligible students must enroll in at least six credit hours in courses that build skills for current or future employment. The scholarship reflects Garfield County's commitment to education and to a strong local workforce. Since the scholarship began, 20 students have received support and have gone on to earn three certificates, 12 associate's degrees, and four bachelor's degrees. These outcomes show that scholarships have helped local students continue their education and complete meaningful credentials. Colorado Mountain College respectfully requests renewal of the scholarship with an increase in of the scholarship. The scholarship has received an increase in the annual support from $2,500 to $5,000. The original amount has remained unchanged since 2012, while CMC's in-district tuition has increased from $56 per credit hour in 2012 to $110 per credit hour in 2026. For a student taking the minimum six credit hours required to qualify, tuition alone has risen from about $336 to $660 before books, fees, transportation, childcare, and other daily expenses. Renewing the scholarship at $5,000 would help keep this long-standing county investment meaningful for today's adult learners and support their progress toward better employment opportunities in Garfield County. Renewing the scholarship at $5,000 is a very good school. You have a pretty good batting record. You said 19 out of 20 have got some sort of certificate. Yes. Yeah. And that's great. That means they're committed. Any questions or comments? I think it's been a very, I remember when CMC approached me about that in 2012, when I said this is a worthy endeavor and you know, it's tough because since then we just, so many people with so many needs. I know. So, I think it's a worthwhile and very productive program that has produced some great results in the lives of young people. Absolutely. And I'm a little bit biased towards education. Yeah. That's where I'm coming from, I guess. You say, well, we need the workforce. I understand this. It's a good program. Does this include a student that may be in a nursing program as well? Absolutely. Yeah. Non-traditional students is usually they're adults coming back to the education system too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you. Appreciate the update. And we did, we did see the letters from some of your non- traditional students in the back of it. So thank you. Great. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Jarman. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Next up, this is a request for grant funding in the amount of $5,000 for the Roaring Fork Outdoor volunteers. And it's listed as Rebecca Schild, the executive director is here and you are here. Good morning. Hi, everyone. Thank you so much for having us or me. I'm Rebecca Schild. I'm the executive director of Roaring Fork Outdoor volunteers, and we are an organization that has strong roots in this area. We've been here offering volunteer and youth programming, stewarding our outdoor resources for 31 years. We're grateful that Garfield County has been a consistent supporter of our work. And in this last budget cycle, our funding was cut just due to budget concerns. So I'm here to ask for discretionary funding to support our community projects. So in 2025, we mobilized over 2,000 unique volunteers who contributed over 8,400 volunteer hours. And in addition, we have a professional trail crew and professional staff that also offered over 5,000 hours to the stewardship of our public lands. So in Garfield County, that's equivalent to $230,000 of direct on the ground impact, creating healthy and resilient landscapes, as well as stewarding and managing exceptional outdoor recreation opportunities. We have a thriving youth program where we're in the schools . We're educating 1,400 students and teaching them about connecting to the land and hands-on service learning and volunteer ethics. In Garfield County this year, we started off with fire mitigation project in South Canyon. Some other highlights include fire mitigation on CMC's campus. This coming weekend, we'll be doing an invasive species management project at Talbots Mountain, Burning Mountain, and Newcastle. We'll be doing some trail projects at Babish Gulch up near Sunlight, working in Rifle Mountain Park. So our work kind of extends across the county and touches a lot of different types of people who are interested in restoring the land, but also working on outdoor recreation opportunities. So I'm grateful for your support and hoping that you can continue to support us this year. Thanks. Questions from the back of the back of the back of the back. I'm curious about the invasive species in Newcastle. Yeah. So what a lot of people don't know is when you disturb the natural environment, that creates an opportunity for invasive species and weeds to move in. In particular, kosha is a big problem. And so what our volunteers will be doing is weeding. And they're looking at targeted populations so that they can really help control the spread of those noxious weeds. And in a particularly dry year, invasive species is a really critical concern to land managers. So I'm curious about your fire mitigation. What kind of work are you doing? Are you thinning or cutting? What is the work you're doing? Well, we give chainsaws to volunteers. We have a volunteer chainsaw crew where we've taken them through an S212 chainsaw program. And then we have a fleet of tools. And they go in and do targeted fuels mitigation. So primarily thinning, but also clearing woody debris that 's already on the landscape. And what that allows is there are some places where machine tools for fire mitigation just aren't effective or it's not cost effective. And so our volunteers are able to go in and kind of do more nimble fuels mitigation. And so last year, we mitigated seven acres of property across our region for fire mitigation. And so it's small, but I think it also demonstrates to our community that they can participate in reducing the risk of wildfire. And we're exploring working on private land so that we can actually help with fuels mitigation projects that would benefit the landscape and working on private land to do that. Thanks. South Canyon is both city property. Yeah, so with South Canyon, we worked with the city of Glen wood and at CMC's campus, we're working with them. And we've been doing fire mitigation in both of those areas for the past three years. Any other questions? Rebecca, thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Mr. Jarman. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Next is a grant request of $5,000 for the Rifle Rendezvous. Annie McGregor is here. Good morning. Good timing. Welcome. You're a week ahead, week before the rendezvous. I know. I thought maybe we would do it last quarter, but I just couldn't get myself together. All right. Good to see you. Thank you. So, yeah, it's our 30th year of rendezvous. I know that as commissioners, you guys have kind of been there since the beginning. And it's just grown and grown. And it's just grown and grown. Uh, this year, we unfortunately had to make the decision to kind of pare down our events due to costs. So we're not gonna have any rodeo events this year, which is a big bummer for us. Probably my favorite part. Um, but carnival will be there and, uh, we'll have lots of vendors and lots of stage shows. So like all of our, um, some of the nonprofits that we help , there'll be a bathtub race. It should be interesting. Um, we'll have the 3d archery shoot. Um, car show will be there, um, on Saturday, Saturday will be, you know, seven to midnight. So it'll be a big night. Um, we'll have dance out with, uh, Brandy Donaldson's group full throttle. Um, we'll have a cutest cowboy contest. Um, shindig will be there with 4-H. So they'll do their auction. And then we'll also on Friday night, um, working with the rodeo club to do a concert. So Sean Moon will be coming out from Grand Junction and we 'll do kind of a concert dance for them as a benefit. So it'll still be great. And the community will come out and enjoy summer kicking off. And you have your, you have the, uh, on Sunday morning. Sunday morning. Yep. We'll do, um, our church service. We'll have, I don't know. I think there's five churches now that will come together and do community service. So that'd be a great time. Big potluck. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Mike. It's your district. Annie. Thanks for coming and so on and so forth. I just wanted to see if maybe you're, you have a board of directors or what do you, you have a call, you call it a board. There are five of us. And, you know, I've watched the rendezvous grow and grow and grow. And I mean, it was just a little kind of gathering and it's just, well, which is great and so on, but it costs money and it costs money and it costs money. Yeah. I'm just wondering what, do you have any plans for the future? And can you maybe expand upon that? Yeah. Because we look at, it seems to me, you're going to have to make a decision. Are we going to try and keep this a little bit smaller and not have to go after big bucks from a lot of different sponsors, et cetera. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah. Or are we going to, what's kind of the future as you see it ? So the board is, and we've been struggling with this for a couple of years. I mean, we're all volunteers, right? So it's just a volunteer board. And it's a huge undertaking. It probably causes way more gray hairs than I need. But it's to a point now where the structure of a volunteer board doesn't necessarily fit the event anymore. And so we've approached a couple of other nonprofits to maybe see if we can combine forces as we're putting this together. We've also reached out to a professional event coordinator that could come alongside and give us some consultation just as this event is growing and where we need to make some adjustments. Because it is an event that just, I mean, has exploded probably since COVID. And it's almost trying to keep the wheels on has been really tough. And so that is something that we're looking at is like, how do we restructure so that we can support an event of this size and make it so that it is sustainable and growing? So that is your wish. You would like it to continue to be a big event and bigger and so on? As big as the fairgrounds can, right? Like obviously that footprint. But I think having, you know, having the Mexican rodeo, you know, we got them to come back. This year on Sunday night. And that's just such a huge event for our valley. And then having, you know, some bull riding or a rodeo event. Just having something for the community on each of those nights I think is really important. I don't know that we want to necessarily make it any bigger . I don't think it can get any bigger based on the size of the fairground. So it's just something. How do we maintain its growth that it is so that it's sustainable for years to come? Definitely encourage you to do that. Thank you. Yes. You are usually the first event of the summer. Yes. For Garfield County. So thank you for that. Yeah. We love it. We love it. And we understand just from our fair and rodeo, you know, it takes a year to, it takes a year of planning. Yeah. Literally working on this to get an event this large too. Yeah. You know, in March we had some costs that we weren't expecting. And so with security and the cost of that, and then, you know, everything goes up, right? Insurance went up, all the things go up. And so it just truly, when we look back at things, and when I came to you guys, I think last month, I mean, 60% is kind of where our expenses went, you know, almost immediately. And so it was just kind of one of those things that we didn 't necessarily have a ton of time to prepare for. Even though we knew costs were going up, we just didn't expect them to jump 60%. So. Yeah. Ouch. Yeah. But now we know. Right now we can prepare. Okay. And the carnival will set up on Thursday, next Thursday. So they'll be here and going. You do this event with $46,000. Yep. Is that correct? Wow. Yep. That's off to you. The carnival is our savior, right? Like, they bring the people in, and they don't cost us anything. Yeah. You generate a little bit of money from tickets. Correct. Yep. Yep. Yes, sir. Appreciate you guys. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Okay, Brent. All right. Thank you. We're going to be fourth up next is, this is a request for $5,000 in grant funding for the Roaring Fork Public Radio Incorporated doing business as Aspen Public Radio and Greg Albrecht Community Relations is here. Good morning, Greg. Welcome. Good to see you. Good to see you, Tom. No, thanks, Fred. Good to see you. I know Greg's in 1909, maybe late 80s. So long time. It's a good trimester break in my sophomore year of 1986 and ski instructed at sunlight. So maybe 1986, 87. Yeah. Yeah. Back a ways. Yeah. Thank you for hosting all of us. I'm one of my primary responsibilities as community relations with Aspen Public Radio is grant writing. And that is time consuming, but I can't imagine how time consuming it is to review 10 grants. So thank you very much for your consideration. I think it's worth it. I think the return on investment of your granting to all of these nonprofits, including us, is large and is community serving. Aspen Public Radio's mission is to support, nourish, and enrich our community by providing information in informative, entertaining, and educational radio and digital programming in a reliable and professional manner. I wanted to, may I give you something real quick? I know. Yeah. Approach. Well, this is project-based for our nonprofit community fair. I did want to cover our operations in general. That is- If you give one to the clerk as well. She needs to have one of those. And to our county attorney. This is- I was going to pass it back to you. That's okay. The theme of our spring membership drive was preparedness, and pretty much the theme of our year is preparedness. That card is for concise, informative tips on being prepared, especially in the case of wildfire and flood. At the very basic public media and radio for that matter, especially in a rural area, and the coincidence of talking about rural broadband divide and the socioeconomic broadband divide, radio and public radio is critical for informing people in emergency situations, especially in that broadband divide. Our main transmitters are from Smuggler Mountain and Sun light Mountain. And then we have a translator at the top of Iron Mountain that has a specific signal for Glenwood till the radio blockage in South Canyon. And hits South Glenwood as well. But our 88.9 signal hits the bulk of the Roaring Fork Valley and the Colorado River corridor really well. But we do have a dedicated 89.3 signal from Iron Mountain that can give things even clearer in the immediate area. Because of Sunlight Mountain, silt and rifle pick up our signal really well. But radio is impervious to power outages and internet out ages. If you have a NOAA weather radio, if you have a transistor radio with a battery, you can get emergency information. And our journalists above and beyond, and that strikes at the professional word in our mission statement, are trained annually in resilience and emergency preparedness. By law, we must maintain generator backup. So if there's a power outage, we're still on the air and able to serve in a reliable manner. I'll give you an example real quick. I was coming back. I don't go to the station that often. A lot of my work is remote and in the field with our nonprofit partnerships. But I was coming back from Aspen coincidentally when that sustainable settings grass fire started. And I was meeting my girlfriend partner to go back home to Marble. But I immediately knew that I was not going to be able to get down Highway 133 because of that fire. We planned to meet in Carbondale Library and waste some time before the road opened up before traveling on. But within a half hour, I stayed tuned to the radio and knew that we didn't have to meet at Carbondale Library and we could proceed to Marble because I learned that the fire was under control and the road was back open. But that's just to give you an idea of the critical essential nature of public radio and radio in serving the community just for the critical emergency purposes. What we're requesting this grant for is the same as last year, our nonprofit volunteer fair. One of my other hats with Aspen Public Radio is maintaining effective nonprofit relationships of which we have many. And one of the concrete examples of that is media sponsors hips. Roaring Fork Outdoor Volunteers, we provide a media sponsorship to annually now in terms of and that value to Roaring Fork Outdoor Volunteers in terms of radio promotion . Digital promotion is about $5,000 in and of itself. And I orchestrate about 30 of these nonprofit media sponsorships per year. On average, they're worth about $2,500 apiece. And it's money that these nonprofits don't have to expend out of their budgets on promotion and get people aware of projects of Roaring Fork Outdoor Volunteers, for instance. CMC and their civics department is another beneficiary of that media sponsorship. We're in close communications with Kristal and that department at CMC. The year before, we participated in a year-long collaboration with CMC on Richard Haas' book, The Book of Obligations and Common Dialogue, mostly on the premise of being civically involved and volunteering is the best way to be in a community and the leverage that it provides. So full circle, that nonprofit volunteer fair, same as last year, we host 30 volunteers in an expo-type setting. It will once again be in the common, outdoor common of Glen wood Branch Library. And then the booths will be on Cooper Street within that block. The thrust of that is to help these mostly very volunteer- driven nonprofits to recruit volunteers, but also create awarenesses of their missions. Last year, we facilitated 100 new volunteers comprehensive ly over these couple dozen nonprofit agencies. Michelle Marlow is the event planner of it, which is, again , a very professional, both in terms of logistics of Glen wood Springs ordinances, Garfield County ordinances, to make sure this is done right and in compliance. But also, I loved Michelle's idea there's free food at this event via food trucks. But the mechanism to get that free food is that each of the volunteer booths have tickets. And when somebody engages with one of the volunteer booths, they then get a ticket to be able to cash in for food at the food truck. So there's a carrot there in terms of. And also key to this event, it's being held once again on the last Wednesday of August. Last year, it was from 2 to 5 p.m. And again, that's to take advantage of earlier release Wednesday and student participation. And we had a lot of students. This year, it's going to be from 3 to 6 to make sure we also engage with Garfield RE2 as much as possible to make sure. 2 to 5 is a little prohibitive for students that aren't being released early on Wednesday. But 3 to 6, especially in contact with Garfield RE2, social sciences and administrators, we can make sure that those kids and their families can get there at least by 4 o'clock . And the live broadcast won't take place until 4.30. So people will be able to take place in the drawn delight of witnessing a live broadcast from the event. Again, all of these nonprofits, I would say without exception, are probably recipients of a Garfield County discretionary grant. So, again, the return on investment for this in us helping the same entities that you're helping, I think, is huge. Lastly, this is a grant, but we're affording all the fund ers and grantors the same sponsorship benefits that a private funder would afford. And that includes mention of Garfield County's support when we promote this event over our airwaves, as well as in our physical and digital materials in promoting the event. I provided in there an example of some of the exposure that you got last year from that. And Fred and Rennell will attest, last year I was tenacious about wanting to make sure that Garfield County had a tent there as a sponsor. Unfortunately, the Lee fire sparked up and Rennell was incredibly busy. Nonetheless, I offer the same as I did last year that I will, I'll be your grunt if you want me to, in terms of getting a tent there and a table there. Just need to have you guys get a person there. But I think it's invaluable outreach to be able to be there . Yeah, we might want to talk to Lou as well. Okay. Just because it is, you're talking about preparedness for emergencies. And that all goes through our, through the Sheriff's Office , through Chris Bornholt. Yeah. I, I, yeah, I wanted to point out on these as well. And in terms of hundreds of nonprofit leveraging and collaboration, we're providing like one to two thousands of these at the request of Food Bank for the Rockies. They want to put these in, in the bags where people are getting food. And I would like to ask that you be in touch with Chris Bornholt as well, just so your journalists. So, so that's seamless if we do have a wildfire. Yeah. Or, or an emergency of some sort. Absolutely. Okay. Yeah, I'll take that. I'll take that back. Emergency manager in the Sheriff's Office. You got it, Tom. Yeah. Any questions? Yeah. Mike, Perry. Well, I think it's great that you're doing something like this, especially this year. Right. Especially this year. Yeah. Reach, get to parachute. Absolutely. He does get parachute. Yes. Yeah. And I want to touch on that real quick in terms of, I know it didn't happen last year, but I did note in the first application to get on the agenda that matching may be required. Your support is already matched by a very reputable private . Alpine Bank is sponsoring this to $5,000. But what spurred my memory on this as well is we do have commitment of so far, 1,000. I'm on their grant, Youth Empowerment Grant. Aspen Community Foundation has committed to 1,000 so far. But as you know, Aspen Community Foundation has a mission to serve all the way to parachute, and especially youth, especially through the Hearst Community Foundation. But Aspen Community Foundation is in as well. So you're not solo on this support by any means, and we're really going to be doing the thrust of our push on sponsorship in June. But we already have decent support. I guess I would like to wrap. I don't want to be presumptuous. But I guess the development person in me is I wanted to get in on this early, because last year it was August for your preparation purposes and ours. And now I'm kicking myself a little bit in terms of last year, there were five or six August participants and here we are in May with 10. And if there's room for extrapolating into the next two quarters, we'd greatly appreciate it. Yeah. And I'll just state that this is our second quarter. First quarter, we only had four, I think, four requests. And now second quarter, we have 10. So just for everybody out there to hear that. And again, I'll mostly just appreciation for the time you take in reading these over and listening to us. Thanks, Greg. Yeah. Good. Thank you. Thanks, Greg. Thanks, Frank. I do like your wooden dow head out. Yeah. A little better than ready, set, go. Yeah. Better say, I'm sorry. Okay. Mr. Jarman. Okay. Thank you. Next this morning, this is a grant funding request of $5, 000 from the Roaring Fork Youth Orchestra program. And Sarah Graff is here. Good morning. Hi, Sarah. Hi. Good to see you again. Once a year. Good to see you. Yes. Yeah. So thank you so much for having us all here. I'm Sarah Graff, executive director, also one of the co- music directors and cello teacher. We all wear a lot of hats at the organization. And I think that's one of the things that makes us special is that we're all sort of involved with the students all the time and also running the organization. And so very, very involved in everything. We're very grateful for the PATH support. It's been very important to us in our growing Garfield County, especially in Newcastle and Silt. So this year's request is similar to the past years that we want to keep growing and keep sustaining what we're doing in Cactus Valley Elementary School and at Riverside and New castle. We keep starting new groups of kids each year in Cactus Valley and then they continue on so that all together in all of our locations. Right now we have 100 students. It's our first year with 100 students. It's our 15th year of the program. When we first started, we had eight up Valley and we've gradually moved our way down Valley and spread out and are really proud to have that many kids involved. They're all the way from kindergarten through high school ers with sort of the middle school age being the core group. We have two main benefits of what we do are for the students, of course, but also the community. All of our concerts are free always. And we do community sing-alongs at Christmastime and then concerts throughout the year. And we have a group called Sidewalk Strings that goes out and plays in the summer, like at farmer's markets or kind of on the corner and here and there and does a lot of fid dle tunes and that style of music. So we do a lot more than sort of a traditional youth orchestra of what you might think of or what I think of from when I was a kid. But we do a lot more than that now. And then we estimate around 2,000 audience members come out each year. And if you add up all of the different concerts and then scholarships are a big part of what we do and a lot of what grant funding helps to make possible. Their need-based, basically it equals like reduced tuition or reduced costs for lessons. So no money goes out to the students specifically, but it makes it possible for them to do the program either for free or for a very low cost based on need so that we don't turn anyone away. And right now about 65% of our students are receiving some level of scholarship. So there's great need for that in the area and not a lot of other musical education for youth opportunities, especially in the Newcastle to Rifle part of our area. There are more as you get towards Glenwood and Carbondale. And we do have some programming there, but we really especially are thinking of this request for our Western Gar field County part of the region. Okay, thank you. Mike? Questions? Varian questions? Well, I'm glad you do some of the outreach on those concerts. It's like the Veterans Nursing Home. Yeah. Yeah, even expand that more into more of the senior housing living places. It would be great, I think. Really enjoy that. Yeah, we love playing in different venues for different audiences. The schools don't have music where they're playing instruments, do they? Or like a band? Do they have a band? There are band, yes. There are definitely band classes in all of the middle schools and high schools. The elementary schools don't have instrumental music, or at least in Silt, where we have our program. They have a general music class, but there's no instrumental music there. In a lot of other places, band or string orchestra would start in fourth or fifth grade, but that's not the case in Cactus Valley. They do have general music class, but not until middle school would they be able to start an instrument. So we start just string players in the younger ages, but our advanced group also has winds and brass and percussion. So a lot of students from Glenwood High School band play in our top orchestra. So, yeah. Okay, thank you. Sarah, yeah, thanks so much. Yeah, thank you. We're familiar with your program. Seeing you for many years, so thank you. Thank you, Sarah. Are you guys good, or do you want to take a break? It's 9 o'clock. Okay, let's take a... We're halfway through the grant, so let's take a... We'll make it a 10-minute break. We'll be back here at 9.15. Great. Okay. Thank you. Okay, we are back. We're back from... We're back on the air. Back to you, Mr. German. Okay, thank you. Next this morning, up on the discretionary grants, there's a funding request for $5,000 for Three Rivers Little League , and Brad Plants and Craig Wilmers are here to make that presentation. Good morning, gentlemen. Welcome. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning, Commissioner. You're probably in the middle of that, right? Dead center. Is it a summer event? It's spring event. Spring event. You got kids playing baseball. So, my name is Brad Plants. I'm not on the board of directors. I'm a volunteer that just decided to help out with the grant writing. And the biggest reason for the ask for this request is because field space costs continue to increase. So, that's been a challenge for us coming into this year. So, you have to play the schools for field space late? You have to pay for... We pay for... Yeah, from Parks and Rec. Parks and Rec. For both Glenwood Springs and Carbondale Parks and Rec. We pay for... Just give us an overview of who's participating, how many teams, where they're from, all that stuff. Good morning, gentlemen. That's where I come into play. I'm not a good public speaker, so bear with me there. I'm more of a baseball coach. But I have been involved in Little League as a player and as a coach since I was in middle school. So, Three Rivers started back in, I believe, 98 or 99. And that's about when I played in it. And then, now I have kids playing baseball. And I've been coaching for about 12 years now. And got suggested to try out for the board six years ago. I was like, oh, that sounds fun. Helped grow the league. So, that's where I got on the board. And then this year, I got voluntold to be the president. So, that's why I'm here today. But I'm in it because I love the sport. It's America's favorite pastime. Kids learn so much more than just how to play baseball in Little League. They learn life lessons. They learn life skills. It's something that I see kids in the store 10 years later. They say, hey, coach. And honestly, I don't remember some of their names. But it's the impact that they have on it. And Little League is such a great organization for that. And Three Rivers specifically, we cover from Vail to Glen wood and Eagle Valley. And then from Aspen, or from Vail to Chips, I'm sorry, in Eagle Valley. And then Aspen to Glenwood over here in the Roaring Fork Valley. And we have, I think, 420-some kids playing this year for about 30 teams. And each team will get roughly 12, 14 games in. And it's mild competitive baseball, I guess I could call it . And Little League as a whole is trying to balance between Rec League and the travel baseball, which travel baseball is growing a lot more. So we're fighting that balance as well and trying to just keep a good competitive baseball where the kids have a transition into more competitive baseball as well as into the high school program. And that's our goal is just to get the kids to love the sport and get to high school and continue to grow. And we are an affiliate of Little League International. So we are part of that system. So the Little League World Series in Williamsport, our teams have the potential to make it there. And it's the dream of all Little Leaguers. And our teams, we've been growing as an organization more and more and getting to the point where kids see the competitiveness of it. And we've won numerous district championships. We've gone to state tournaments. We've even had a few teams go to regionals. We haven't been lucky enough to go to Williamsport yet, but that's always the goal there. However, the hard part is being a nonprofit organization, but keeping the costs of registration fees down for the players is hard because, as Brad mentioned, the field costs are going up. Umpires are harder and harder to come by. And we've been trying to balance that as well as get younger kids in the umpiring, but making it worth their while. So it's been a struggle overall for the past few years, just trying to keep it where we don't push the kids away because it's too expensive for them to even play in the first place. At what ages? We have ages, the team ages are from 10 to 14, but we also have some 8 and 9-year-olds that play on the 10-year-old teams. And did you charge an individual to participate? Is there a cost for that? There is a registration fee, and that really covers the cost of getting the jerseys for them, getting the hats, and then it goes towards the umpire fees, the field usage fees, but it doesn't cover all that. We rely on grants. How much would it cost if I had a student that wanted to participate? How much is it for the registration? I think it was $325 this year. Which is almost a little steep compared to what travel costs are as well. Everything costs. Yes, it does. What's the travel? Like travel baseball, it's a whole thing that's taken over the country, really. What's the cost there? Most of, at least the ones in Eagle Valley and Glenwood are $400 to $500 for a player to join a travel team. So you don't go down the Colorado River Basin? We do play interleague play with CRB and a little bit with the Grand Junction teams as well, yes. Okay. They're just their own separate league, but we do have interleague play. Yeah, you play those teams. Correct. Great. And so is it like a league, so you got to keep track of your wins and losses and all that? Yes, sir. Other questions, Mike? I just remember playing little league when I was seven years old and all the way up to umpiring and coaching state championship teams. Baseball is a great sport, and I love it. But I just, that blows, I mean, it just costs so much money for everything. It didn't cost a dime for me to play when I was a kid, and now it's $325. I get it. I understand. It's just surprising. Yeah. So will this money just go kind of into your general fund, or will it be used for scholarships? What's your use of this? Since it's a Garfield County grant fund, we'd use it solely for the Garfield County field costs and umpires that umpire those games, which the field costs for just Glenwood and Carbondale for the season, I think, is about $5,000 is what we're going to pay just to rent the fields. And then the umpire costs will be closer to $10,000 just to umpire the games in those two areas. Okay. That's good information. Yeah. Any other questions? Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, gentlemen. Good luck. Thank you. Next week, you'll know what our decision is. We appreciate the time. Thank you. Appreciate you being here. Appreciate your work with the youth. Yes. Thank you very much. Go ahead. Okay. Okay. Thank you. You bet. Next up, this is a discretionary grant request funding for $3,500 for the West Elk Trails. Todd Tibbetts, the board chairman, and Nicole Christensen are both here to make requests. So good morning. Good morning. Good morning. It's good to see you. Good to see you. Here in a different role, but just as excited to be in front of you. Thank you for your time. Okay. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. I'm Todd Tibbetts, board chair of West Elk Trails. Thank you for the time today. Garfield County has supported the West Elk Trails winter grooming program for quite a number of years. Back in 2009, you've supported our buying of our groomer, which we still currently use, and have supported us throughout the years. Last year, because of the low snow conditions, our expenses were reduced significantly. And so we didn't come before you guys and ask for funding for last year. We're anticipating that this next winter will be closer to normal. Amen. Amen. Yes. And this summer will be wet. Yeah. And so we're anticipating, you know, again, the financial needs of normal season and requesting support of $3,500. One of the other things that is happening in West Elk, part of our special use permit with the Forest Service is to do summer trail maintenance. Quite a number of years ago, we opened up the Manstead D itch Trail had not been used for quite a while and it had gotten overgrown. And West Elk Trails sponsored three different work sessions to get volunteers out to start clearing that. And then the Forest Service, once it was cleared enough to get through, the Forest Service was able to take it over. But the Newcastle Mountain Bike Group and the Rifle Mountain Bike Group have approached West Elk Trails to open up another couple sections of trails for hiking, mountain biking, and port riding up on the flat tops that have gotten overgrown. And there's a section from the Mansfield Ditch over to Main Elk. And then the Last Chance Trail, which goes from near the parking lot at the winter maintenance ends out to Clark's Ridge. And so we're contemplating next season leveraging the coordination between the Mountain Bike Groups and West Elk Trail would be the lead organization. And to, again, get citizen volunteers to open up those trails. So then the Forest Service then can, in the summertime, with the Youth Conservation Corps, which Garfield County supports, can help keep those trails open. As with all other nonprofit organizations, our expenses have increased rather dramatically over the years. And what we've done to address that, we have good user support. Over a third of our budget is provided by user voluntary donations. But we've engaged the corporate communities to increase their funding, as well as we've sponsored a fundraising dinner, which has been successful and increased our funding there. So we haven't had to ask for additional government support as our expenses increase. And I'll let Nicole talk a little bit more about the funding and issues of that nature. How many miles of trails do you have under your purview? Currently, it's 10 miles of trails. Seven miles are groomed. And then there's three miles, which is a snowshoe loop that does not get groomed. Okay, Nicole, you've got the floor. Thank you so much. I'm newer to this board, but I'm not new to the West Elks trails. 13 years ago, my first winter, my boss at the time made sure we got up there. We snowshoed. And now I've gotten really into cross-country skiing. He brought hot chocolate. And just being out at that overlook, it was magical. And what I love about these trails is every time I'm up there, it's magical. And those places in our valley are rare. So I'm really glad to be a little more involved and share a bit more about the community support. And like Todd mentioned, we're talking to more small businesses for their sponsorships as well. It's something that businesses can kind of help support for their employees. All of us choose to live here, and it's a hard place to live. It's a hard place to come. It's a hard place to stay and make it work. So having these kind of amenities for all of our locals, for our employees, for our community members is just really valuable. I can't imagine living in a place without something like West Elks trails basically in my backyard. We now bring our dog every time we're there. And it's nice that it's free. But we always give our user donation every year. And we encourage other folks that we see up there to make sure to know this doesn't happen for free. It's free to users. But it's not free to actually provide these great trails and amenities. A little more about our fundraising dinner. This is something we've added two years ago. It was one of our board members' ideas. And we've sold out 55-plus seats both years. And then this year in January, we added a silent auction, which definitely brought in a lot more money as well. So it's, you know, we're looking to address the cost increases, but also do fun things where we get to see everyone that we see on the trails at dinner and kind of enjoy each other's company in a different arena. So it's been a great board to be involved in and just a great community asset that I can't imagine not having for years to come. So thank you. Very frugal budget. That's true. For what you do. And so last winter, what was your season? January to mid-March? Did you get that much? Well, we opened just before Christmas, but people had to dodge some muddy areas. We really didn't get adequate snow until January to really start grooming. We spent just about as much time shoveling snow onto the trails to keep them open. And we were able to stay open until the second weekend in March in spite of the 70 and 80 degree weather that it was. All winter was unbelievable. Yeah. Not quite the same as like two winters ago when we had 10 feet of base up there as opposed to about a foot and a half to two feet of base this last winter. I like to hike and I haven't hiked your trail, so I need to do that. What's the base elevation? It's at 9,000 feet is where the parking lot is. Again, it's right at the end of the winter maintenance parking lot. We share that with the snowmobile. How do the snowmobile trails run parallel or how does that? No, the snowmobile trails basically go north on the Vueford Road and Force Road 220 towards Meadow Lake. And we go east right at the start of the parking lot area. And so our trails are separate from the snowmobile trails. And as Nicole mentioned, you get out in the woods and it's peaceful. And then we've got a beautiful view spot where you can see all the way from the raggeds all the way over to the mountains over by Eagle. Call that Dorothy's view for Dorothy and her husband. We're ranchers here and they used to go and they had a plaque up on one of the young aspen trees that said Dorothy's view. So I just carried that name forward. Any questions? I know that plays pretty well. It's a good deal. Okay. Thanks for your service. And trails are really important. I'm glad you're working with the mountain bikers as well. Yeah. All that ties together. Yep. I will make a comment about that. I'm supportive of your winter use. From a wildlife standpoint, when we get into the mountain biking, I won't be so supportive. Well, that's one of the reasons why I'll be meeting with the Forest Service this summer to talk about that and what we can do to make sure that we 're not disturbing the wildlife. Because we don't even open up one of our trails until late January just because the elk activity is still in there. So we're very sensitive to our stewardship of the wildlife in the area. Well, the winter use is way different than the wildlife. Yeah, definitely. You're welcome. Thanks. Thank you. Okay. Mr. Jarman. Okay. Thank you. Next, this is a request for discretionary grant funding of $5,000 for the Grand Valley Historical Society. And Ms. Judith Hayward is the president of that. Hi, Judith. Good to present. Good morning. Good to see you. Thank you. You have the floor. It's good to see you. Wow. I am just amazed listening to all the volunteer organizations in our county. And those of you know that my heart's been with historical society and nonprofit organizations. My name is Judith Hayward. I am president of the Grand Valley Historical Society, which owns the historic Battlemont Mesa Schoolhouse located at 7235 County Road 300. I'm here requesting $5,000 from the Garfield County Discret ionary Grant Funds to help the historical society's schoolhouse roof project. Our society was formed in 2000. So we're a fairly new organization in our community. And we were given at that time the vacant Battlemont Mesa Schoolhouse and the property. With this grant, with the grant from the Colorado State Historical Restoration Fund in 2005, in the amount of $145,000, plus we had to raise $55,000, we were able to restore that schoolhouse. We also raised an additional close to $100,000 to add such things that were non-historic, like a water well, a septic system, a furnace, air conditioning, and a bathroom, and a kitchen in the building. I wanted to mention to you, the county commissioners, Larry Velaski told me, and he was a former commissioner here, that when Battlemont Mesa was being designed and developed, the commissioners and the local citizens of the Battlemont Mesa area purposely put this schoolhouse outside of the Battlemont PUD. It was saved because of that decision. During 2005 and 2008, when we were doing restoration, we were not able to repair the roof of that building. It had already had a roof 40 years sitting on that building . But what we did was just repair it and stained it and lim ped along. Now we have a 50-year roof on that building, very dry, shake shingles. And with the current wildfire concerns we all have, the society made a decision to replace that roof. The old roof being taken off and now we are installing a steel roof. If we would have done this 25 years ago when we started the restoration, I think it would have cost us $40,000. But we didn't have the money to do it. It is now costing us $80,000 to replace that roof. In fact, $82,000. During this work, we also found that the bell tower on the roof and we needed a gutter by the entrance into the building where we would have snow buildup and ice on the cement. So we have had some additional repairs that the contractor and the roof company have identified. We would use this extra money, the $5,000, to help us with this additional things showing up. We have hired a local contractor and he has been using a parachute roofing company. All the people live in our community. It was important that this money was going to be put in the pockets of local people. Many of you are aware that this schoolhouse serves a real purpose and plus it has brought the community to begin to love the local history. I hope you see the need to help our historical society. And you might know that I am still here in this community working my heart out for the historical society because of marrying a husband that loved the local history. And he used to refer to this building as the queen of the M esa. It was that important to him. I thank you for your consideration. And I have thoroughly enjoyed hearing all the other nonprofits talking and letting you know we've got a wonderful community and a county. Thank you. So, Judy, I have a historical question for you. Is it true that, I think it was Mr. I don't know what Callahan's first name was, but he was, that he built his first chimney out of oil shell rock? Is that a true story? And then when he, when he, his first fire, his house burnt down? I was just wondering if there's truth to that. That was told repeatedly by Lee Hayward, who didn't know Callahan, but he knew it had been passed on down to local people. There's a number of people. One of them is Yellowstone Kelly, who founded Yellowstone National Park, was Parachute's first justice of the peace for 10 years. He founded Yellowstone National Park. He came down to Parachute and he lived here for 10 years in our community. So, we had a famous person. So, it's sort of like the oil shale. Plus, that's the story we're working on telling at our rest stop about oil shale. What it is. And as somebody said, it's not oil. I think Lee Hayward was more famous. We're working on it. And we had the great train robbery as well. Yes. Yeah. Jack Roberts did those wonderful paintings that are in our town hall. And I'm so proud when I walk in there and see those pictures right next to the police department. Thank you, Judy. Appreciate it. Good to see you. Thanks for the book, too, Judy. Thanks. Yeah. Is that? Yeah. The picture's up here, Judy. Still on the picture. Okay. Back to you, Fred. Okay. Thank you. Next request. This is for $5,000 in grant funding for the Roaring Fork Conservancy. It's got Rick LaFerro, the executive director listed, but also Heather Leland, which I think is you. Hi, Heather. Good to see you. The science and policy director. So, welcome. Another. I'm glad you're still with the Roaring Fork Conservancy. Yes. Thank you. It's been a while since I've seen you, but it's good to see you. Yes. I was thinking it's been a few years. Yeah. Rick apologizes. He got called out on a site visit and was not able to make it this morning. But thank you all for taking the time to hear our request here. So I believe you're all familiar with Roaring Fort Conserv ancy and the time that we spent. But we are entering our 30th year now, which is pretty exciting. And for a watershed organization in Colorado, there aren't too many that have been around for that long. We are requesting $5,000 in funding as well as a letter of support for our current drought resiliency study. As you all are keenly aware, the prolonged and now severe drought conditions really impact not just our rivers, but our whole community and our culture and our economy on a daily basis right now. In the fall of 2023, we partnered with three different properties, one in each county of the Roaring Fork watershed, one Pitkin Eagle and Garfield counties, to look at the impacts of biochar as a soil amendment and soil health. And the impacts in both soil health and yields and the time of reduced water. As I'm sure you all know, if you looked about 20 years back , you wouldn't see a watershed group working with an agricultural property owners on water and shared water resources. And we really think that the world and the community right now has united in certain ways around water and divided in others. And I think what we're working on doing in the Roaring Fork watershed is really bringing together these different groups and win-win opportunities and projects. And as a watershed group, we really feel that productive, longstanding agriculture is significantly more beneficial to our communities and our watersheds than the alternatives that we see in other places, which is dried up weeded areas and hardscaped overdeveloped spaces. So we really appreciate the partnership that we've been able to build amongst agricultural producers in this shared idea of how we work with less water. So let's see. Looking at this study, we are in 2023, fall of 2023, we worked on four properties. We're now down to three to do aeration and biochar amendments. There are not a lot of controlled studies looking at the benefits of biochar right now. And so we are now, this will be year three. We're working with groups on two more years to really understand long-term soil health impacts and to get a better understanding of how soil health can benefit producers in the time of water shortage when we're looking at whether it's drought conditions, other reasons that you're not able to get the water that properties need. And so right now we have $70,000 looking over two years of this continued study and its impacts. So that's weekly soil moisture monitoring. It's monthly evapotranspiration drone studies. Those are done by Pitkin County. And then the analysis of grass yields once a summer. And then looking at that each year and then along with the collective change over time in the hopefully four years that we'll have funded to look at this. We currently have a grant from the CWCB that will carry on through the next two years, as well as annual funding from Eagle County in the amount of $6,500. We use that funding on the property located in Eagle County . Pitkin County provides both a property as part of their open space program as well as about $5,000 of in-kind time. And so we're hoping that Garfield County would be willing to contribute as well. We could use that. We would use that money solely on the property located in Garfield County. That's a Martineau property up in Missouri Heights area. And so the idea is to really get a good understanding of different spaces in the watershed, different impacts in different areas. And then a letter of support for the community funding partnership through the River Districts program. As we ask for funding through them, they require a letter of support from each county, which is slightly challenging when you're looking at three different counties for one overarching project. So I'd be happy to take any questions. I know it's a little bit of a complicated study, but I appreciate your time and consideration. Okay. So I do have some questions for you, Heather. Yeah, I'm a little bit familiar with biochar because of the program. I think the Forest Service and maybe private developer did up Cole Basin. Yes, sir. And, but what is biochar? Where does it come from? And I guess you've talked, how many acres is within your study? So that's three questions here. Okay. So biochar is basically an organic product. It's high heat burning, and it's an amendment that can be used to benefit soil health. Is it wood? That is... It can be. Is it coal? It's usually wood or some products. So there's a study in Fruita right now that the biochar they're using uses pistachio shells as a byproduct. The one that we're looking at did use mostly wood products. Two of the farms are certified organic that we're working with. And so we had actually hoped to locally source the biochar from the gypsum plant here, but we weren't able to get a full list of what their... What their... Ingredients were. Yes, exactly. So without knowing that, that wasn't... That no longer became an option. And the gypsum plant is now closed. Yeah. And so we were able to source from a front range area that was able to disclose their pieces. So that was part one. That's what is biochar. And the idea is adding that potentially to soil along with aeration can benefit soil health and production. So the char holds moisture longer? Right. That... In theory. And so really, you know, when we look at a study like this, we want to know if it actually works. Because if it does work, we'd like to promote it and find ways that we can make it useful and affordable. If it doesn't work, we don't want somebody selling biochar to swoop in in a time of crisis and say, hey, this is going to help when it doesn't. So it's really just gaining that objective understanding of how this works and how it works both on the field and water -wise. We have now three properties. Each one is looking at three acres. It's all divided into half-acre plots. So half of those are control plots and half of those are study plots. So to understand, right, from not touching to touching. Right. And so in those three, we looked at no treatment, aeration only, and biochar with aeration. And then each of those are divided in half and irrigated or not irrigated. And was there success in Coal Basin? Is there any information from that study? I can't remember. I just remember biochar being talked about in Coal Basin. Yes. And so generally speaking, we did see success in regrowth of biochar in Coal Basin. However, it wasn't a space that we were able to put together, really a controlled study to have a good understanding of what the impacts of biochar versus other environmental impacts might have been. I think that they added that in areas where it was difficult for growth, if I remember correctly. Yes. Yeah, in hopes that you did see a little bit more moisture held and nutrients shared in the soils. Okay. So your letter of support for the River District is not really on the agenda. So we'll get that on the consent agenda for, unless we want to discuss it more, but consent agenda for next week. Yeah, there's a draft in there that we'll put on BOCC letterhead. And if the board's happy with it, then they can move forward and we'll put it on consent for you. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. Thank you. Okay. Great. I still have a little question or two on biochar. Yes, sir. That's cool. So ashes, is it ashes or is it material that's been burnt and like burnt, which I don't, I'm not following here. It's high class ashes. You couldn't just take it out of your, you know, fireplace and spread it about. So there's a certain preparation and a high heat environment and a contained environment. How did you apply it to the soil? So the soil application was a bit of an adventure. We had big, large bins basically delivered in a big truck of biochar and it came out and we put it in a spreader. Each site was a little bit different. But I think there are some photos if you look back in the slides there, but we had a, basically a truck that was able to pull that spreader behind. It's really fine material. So it's a pretty messy job. But it's fevered on the surface. Yes. And it works its way down in. Yes. And the main reason is to retain moisture in the soil. Yes. It's not a fertilizer at all, or there may be, you're studying to see if that's a benefit also. In theory, some soil health benefits, we're looking into understanding that better. And you aerate. Yes. And so aeration would allow it to penetrate the soil more. Okay. Has this been done in other places a lot or not? There's a gentleman in Fruita who's doing a similar study in his space there, but it's a really challenging thing to do in a controlled environment. And so we're trying to work through that process. There are not a lot of published studies. So we're working with Colorado State University, Colorado State University's extension as well. I don't know if my friend's doing the analysis. Is it that student soon? Yes. Seth Mason with Lodic Hygialogical is doing a lot of the analysis piece. He's working with Perry Cabot and with CSU as well. And Michael Lobato out of Fruita. So the hope is to kind of get a bigger, big picture, collective, better understanding of ways we can, you know, share the benefits of productive agriculture and water. And it doesn't break down. It stays in the soil for a long, long time. Right. And so that's why, you know, our first couple of years have been a bit inconclusive. And so it's, from what we do know, we think that years more three through five are when you start to see some more distinctive impacts. And so that's what we're looking to keep doing. Good carbon storage too. Yes. Yeah, there's a carbon sequestration component as well that 's loosely being explored. And filters and cleans water. Yes. I'm curious to see how this sticks out. Me too. The aeration part is huge. Mm-hmm. Yes. Yeah, that was a, we worked with Brendan Doran who used to own Turnabout Ranch. His ranch was originally part of the process there and he had some family issues and had to move away. But they had a really large aerator that we drove in a big loop around the Roaring Fork Valley with a tractor and everything else in that fall to work through that on all their different fields in a consistent manner. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks Heather. I always appreciate your knowledge. Yeah. Thank you all very much. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. request for five thousand dollars in grant funding is for the middle colorado watershed council and kate collins the executive director along with chris treese is here to present so good morning hi chris hi kate morning yeah thanks for having us so i'm on the agenda twice or we're on the agenda twice do you want me to just uh run through all of it or no wait let's wait let's go through your the five thousand dollar request we'll come back to the ten thousand dollar yes that sounds great okay so you will remember that um i was here in the fall talking about this uh discretionary grant that was a match for our furworm grant the forest restoration that was to hire a a coordinator that's exactly right yeah okay great so we were awarded the 350 000 grant congratulations thank you it's great that's a great uh you did well so congratulations yeah so the um 87 500 match had 10 partners which i think made our application really strong um in addition to the county we had the towns of s ilt parachute newcastle and rifle with holy cross energy and um chevron and we had the debec fire district and also the colorado river fire protection district so very very strong application and then we um just recently posted for the job of the program manager this grant gives us the ability to hire a program manager for three years and we had 16 candidates qualified folks interviewed five on monday april 20th and selected sam fearborn to be our program manager and he 'll start uh may 18th it's what's going to be the fire so to speak right this year hopefully not the fire yes but there's a lot going on with the fire preparedness yeah and so so his job in our multi-jurisdictional uh entity that's the colorado river wildfire collaborative will be to um continue to uh educate communities create neighborhood shipping programs and ambassador programs and those sorts of programs um he will continue to work on funding and grant management now that we have a person in place we'll still need money to execute on projects um and then the the veg management and uh implementation things like what heather talked about with biochar woody woody biomass repurposing um we have some really exciting prospects for that and it will just be wonderful to have someone boots on the ground and someone is talented and qualified as a sam who um is an adjunct professor at colorado mountain college um in the outdoor studies program and lives on some acreage of three mile where he mitigates it um himself so it's going to be a great addition to the team well these mitigations um well congratulations i mean this was started by paul step and you carried it forward and uh to have somebody working in the colorado river basin is a big deal thank you and fire resilience yes just just one final thing you know i think paula thought we she would spin it off into its own 501c3 nonprofit um most of the collaboratives that are neighboring with us are their own independent entities um we have deemed that creating a new nonprofit that's underfunded is not a good idea in today's environment and so we'll continue to run both of the things the watershed work and the wildfire work it's a big mandate it's a big region 2200 square miles but we recognize that the issues are so intertwined and um they're not siloed right so it it makes sense from that perspective so thank you comments very little uh but just to thank the commissioners for your past support it really is a pleasure to come to be able to come to you and say your past support has resulted in in this kind of progress and now moving forward it really is about the the taking the program and making turning it into projects turning it into on the ground progress and we've seen a little bit with the growing fork wildfire quote collaboration coalition yeah i've seen some of they are doing some projects so but questions mike no questions keep up the good work yeah okay thank you so much thank you gentlemen thank you okay uh see you charming i believe you wanted to do a agenda change i would i would like to go into action items b yeah i'll let you go ahead and announce that okay yeah thank you um just to get these gentlemen back into the field uh on the quicker side i'd like to um elevate items three four and six are all road and bridge together and so to have if i could have them come up and then um have them present to you this would be director scott marsh uh deputy director dale stevens and foreman harry shiles to come on up and present and we get this out of the way and these gentlemen can get back to the field okay scott dale harry got a lot going on so the first one just introduced this would be a request approval for a utility permit application for county road 320 and 321. this is with nick ogborn pet hockett and poly construction scott go ahead and take it away i'm never going to phone in but um basically they're doing about 6300 feet of fiber along county road 320 and 321 um all the road crossings will be bores um everything else is pretty simple um we'll have to work with them schedule it around our chip jobs which in that area will probably be mid to end of july so they can get started the sooner the better um that would help us scott the reason you're bringing this to the board because the permit requirements anything over a thousand feet in the right of way has to come before the county commissioners this is uh century link this um is this the contractor doing work for century length or not yeah i see that somewhere it doesn't say century oh yeah it is doing something i guess it is okay all right questions my questions about what kind of road closure you know most of it's shoulder work um so i want to do the board or anything you want many closures on the road no if anything it would be one lane is all they're showing on their traffic control plans um so when they're doing right along the shoulder or a bore they'll have a one lane set up with flaggers so it won't be a total closure no okay no sir great thank you and this is for fiber yes mike your district how long do you think this is going to be i have no idea on how long it will take them to complete that and we don't have those guys on right i don't see them on the zoom which is our typical path forward here i do see pat pocket i see one of them get into yes okay pat do you want you can you hear us and do you have any comments yeah i can hear you can you hear me yeah i can hear you now pat okay sorry about that yeah yeah the duration of work uh we're probably looking about three weeks okay that's that's pretty quick and how many how many homes are you you going to uh then give access to this job's for the faa what i asked how many homes will this get five or two we're not passing any homes this is a circuit for the faa okay all right so it's good okay we do have a question for the road and bridge gentleman um we do have to cross a ditch right there um our standard is four foot below the bottom of the ditch is that acceptable for you guys to be able to get in there and clean it out if you need to yes yes okay okay as far as i know we've never turned down a request for right away use so that's pretty standard request my main concern was how much time three weeks and weeks short mr chairman i moved that we grant approval to the utility permit application loung county road 320 and 321 loud chair to sign okay any other comments call a question all in favor all right yeah got that you're set to go pat right thank you uh commissioners the next request this morning this is a request approval to award a contractor frontier paving for procurement of the battle and ice drainage improvements for the road and bridge department this is an annual activity that you will put in the budget and have for years and so kim keysbury from procurement is also here to help the process of procurement to review the process of procurement and the process of procurement it's like you had a pretty good uh process here as far as number of applicants we did what it's broken it's broken into three different uh three different categories correct correct and these gentlemen can probably speak more to that as far as the alternates um but we did have two different sets of alternates so so we're doing five um five different intersections with this um it'll be north battlement parkway and battlement creek trail the lower entrance north battlement parkway and battleman creek trail the upper entrance rainbow trail and silver queen rainbow trail um rainbow trail and west emerald lane and rainbow trail and smoky hill circle for the five that'll get done this year so as i think as long as i've been a commissioner we've had uh drainage improvements and battlement mesa does that does that ever end or is that will that be just an ongoing process uh i mean i'm i'll be out as a commissioner soon but is is is it's just an ongoing process yes sir um everything built at the same time so everything's filling at the same time and it's just a matter of we're trying to pick the worst and keep moving forward so when we say drainage improvements what exactly what is the work um coming into an intersection redoing the pan um the curb and gutter through those um that's where we're getting getting a lot of the allegating allegating and um so they 're going in fixing that with new drainage pans and does that water drainage end up in the colorado river it does it does okay questions perry no i get a lot of calls from people at batt lement mesa that are truly concerned and thankful that we spend that money to do that drainage because they live there and they want to deal with it and and tyler terry's been working on this pretty hard every year um he was going to be here but he had another meeting so but he does a good job on this project every year thanks you and gentlemen any any comments from the public it is fully budgeted just yeah in fact a little bit below a little bit below which is great thank you that's what the competitive bid process does yeah thank you gentlemen i move that we approve a water contract of frontier paving for the procurement of the battlement mesa drainage improvements for road and bridge department in 2026 for amount not to exceed 330 748 dollars allowed the charge sign there again and call a motion in favor all right thank you okay got it yeah one more thank you again yes final um matter for the road and bridge permit this morning this is uh a request for um funds frankly to assist with the emergency repairs for eight bridge scott marsh your director's here with his team to walk you through what is happening with that bridge this is my district drove go through there actually on saturday and uh seems to be working well as far as the lights go yes sir um yeah go on we did get um two two two bids um both both people were great working with us because they knew it was an emergency for us um so we did get two bids um the winning one was consi for 131 650 dollars um they're thinking that they can complete it in less than two weeks once they start we'll have to let them know so they can get the waterproof membrane and everything coming but um basically what we'll do is take the asphalt all the way down to the bridge deck um re-weld where we've had the bridge deck start bouncing um they'll check the rest of the bridge deck um why they're why they have it all off re-weld anything that needs to be re-w elded have that inspected and then come back with asphalt over the top and i'm not there yeah i don't uh that 's a relatively new bridge i i remember when it was closed and i you know because i kind of live up that way i remember when it was closed we had to drive through aspen glend to kind of get around uh so i mean yeah so the surface is newer bridge was the bridge was built in 1950. oh so it's original bridge new surface. yep thanks 1950. and maybe scott for the benefit of the board and anybody listening describe the problem in your mind. so it where the hole is um the weld has has came undone so every time you drive across that it's bouncing um and it keeps doing that it keeps weak ening the other welds and we shut it down because we didn't want um a piece of asphalt or concrete to be driven through the decking because then it will be a whole nother problem so okay um and harry will be doing the traffic control um that saved us roughly forty thousand dollars by him taking on the traffic control so he'll be in contact with um so so you can't continue with the stoplights well we will as long as we can but anytime they need traffic control or eventually we will have to shut it down for the paving and everything um harry and his crew will be doing that yeah they'll probably be at least a two-week full bridge closure really yeah okay we need to get need to get that to renell and get the information out on that because that will affect a lot of people there's a lot of people that will even on the commute will will go that way to get to uh four mile yeah and we'll area once we get everything done today we'll get contact with them and get scheduling and everything like that so we can work on all their releases so okay and jamaica this will be a this supplement uh for emergency out of the general fund no uh it'll be a capital supplement out of the roads and rich okay all right just to let you guys know too in addition bob's been working with scott here and we are going to do a almost six hundred thousand dollar transfer from traffic um improvement mitigation the traffic improvement right and we're going to move that into road and bridge probably in october so that will also help cover this so those are road impact fees thank you yes road impact it out okay yeah it was on my note but thanks jimmy yeah okay questions he said the total but i don't see the total on this sheet from consai what was the total which step above 131 650 where am i missing that go back to your garfield county agenda cover sheet okay thank you and it's too bad uh greg love for from the radio station because this is that's what we're going to have on the air okay other questions okay it's an action item call the question mr chair we would approve the garfield county road and bridge recommendation and award the contract to consai for emergency repairs on county road 108 bridge ratification on a later date and uh in the amount of 150 650 dollars second okay call the question all in favor all right okay guys you got it thank you thank you gentlemen and thanks commissioners for allowing allowing us to shape shift the agenda just a little bit great this would take you back to your first item and let me take a minute to tee this up for the board i'll read it and then frame it uh this is to consider le asing water to the colorado water conservation board the west divide water conservancy district and the salt water conservancy district from the garfield county share in rudy reservoir and there's a reason i pulled all three of these groups together because there's been um basically the recent requests from those groups um initially led by the um cwcb who reached out and this for background garfield county owns 400 acre feet in rudy reservoir and you have for a very long time and over that time you have um leased up to 350 acre feet of that water uh to cwcb and this is primarily for the support of endangered species in the 15 mile stretch west of grand junction and that's been an ongoing very positive relationship for years and there is a lease rate that you calculate every couple of years for that water and um it's i don't i'm not sure i i let them know that they would be dollars an acre foot so that's what c it's up to right now 84 95 84.95 and that's varied over time um and i invited cwcb to be on this morning i'm not sure i see lisa who's what i've worked with in any event all three entities know about this morning we invited them to come in so it just made sense to have that one conversation with the board um each different entity is requesting uh water from the rudy reservoir alloc ations that you all have and um i think that's that is the bulk of it um so so i think it's really up to the commissioners one more thing about your cwcb contract which is important yes it's it is a contract but the way the contractor is written the board at your sole discretion every year can distribute how you would like to there's no set amount that you are required to and so you have essentially 400 acre feet to deal with today yes yes and this is a really a radical drought year probably which we've seen i don't know how many years but at least 50 but it could be 100 or 500 i don't know back to the anasazis i 'm not sure um so if you wanted to invite them up yeah if we could get get i guess all three parties to come up and i i have to disclose that that i am uh on the west divide water conservation district board so i'm going to have to recuse myself and so perry as the oh tim chair pro tem you you have uh will deal with this you know i'll step out now let you make your decision and wendy ryan was also i see she's on on zoom and she she 'll be able to access and she'll be able to access and windy as well great thank you gentlemen okay good morning good morning good morning whatever the all the smiling faces in the room then you want to start well uh yeah i'll be happy to you have a cover letter uh from us uh spelling out uh west divides issue as you know we operate several uh augmentation programs in our district and in neighboring districts uh we have a program with igas and then out uh contract these outside of uh out of either uh districts that we have igas with or not in our district um are required to come into the petition to be in the uh petition of exclusion to be in the west divide district uh in any case we have around 500 i think uh total contractees uh that are in and covered in our odd plans and some of those uh represent multiple households or or users so there's a lot of people out there that are affected and have legal water supplies only due to the augmentation plans that we operate uh these are mostly water well augmentation yes there are other issues or occasions but uh so that's primarily yes i'm augmenting water wells um residential and commercial right so um uh generally we have adequate water uh one of the supplies that we've counted on for a number of years we have 200 acre feet in green mountain reservoir and of course green mountain reservoir doesn't have any contract water they don't another critical thing is they don't have the 66 000 acre feet of hup water historic users pool water that was supposed to take care of west slope diverters when there wasn't water available normally uh because of transbound diversions primarily through uh cbt and chris is more familiar with the cbt issue than i but it's uh like all water matters in colorado and colorado colorado water law it's not a simple thing but the simple thing about the about this is that uh i remember 77 very well which was a benchmark year on drought in 2002 we've always heard about those years and and how devastating they were this year may be at least as bad as those years we have we 're yet to see that where this recent moisture is very promising and that's going to ease the pain a little perhaps but god hope it continues in any case we are short at least the two feet of green mountain reservoir water we have root i round one water and also root i round two water and a few years ago probably 10 or so years ago when they were finishing up root i round two uh requests uh we optioned a thousand acre feet of water from the river district on that issue since then we have uh exercised two options of 100 acre feet each so we now have another 200 acres feet that we're getting out of that thousand that we originally optioned um that requires if we were to trigger another option on that uh we're not sure if we're getting out of that water that would require us to a long-term contract with the river district and uh we're not certain what the long-term demands will be and what the long-term impact will be of of uh green mountain reservoir uh and whether that water will ever be available again uh there are a lot of people running around wondering about that uh and a lot of bright people so uh we're here because you have this 400 acre uh feed of water that's already under contract you own it very prudent uh decision on this board's part to have uh exercised that option and acquired that water uh we need uh as mentioned our cover sheet here uh right out 100 acre feet to just cover what we have to do with the augmentation plans uh in addition to that every year we have new contractees come in and uh we would like to have uh buffer so uh our request is as uh asking for 200 acre feet of your 400 acre feet uh to cover uh primarily domestic needs to your citizenry uh uh the water conservation board requesting these this water um obviously there's this year there's simply not enough water to go around i can say for west divide we'd be happy to work with the cw cb to to the maximum extent possible make a multiple use uh this is water that we're going to be releasing to meet the downstream calls in the grand valley as part of our augmentation plan to the extent that that water can also help the endangered fish we're happy to to work with them and uh and see a multiple benefit another yes and in conjunction with the uh the silt uh district we have an iga with silt to operate our program within their district boundaries and one of the things that they have one is their is their 5 000 acre piece which you were very interested in in using uh riga allows us to use silt's facilities and get the water in the pump canal then we build a transfer station up on the uh the uh pump canal up there that allows us to move water from the pump canal up to the west lateral yeah and we make arrangements uh each year with silt when they're operating the pump canal and they also want to have interest in operating this this station that moves the water up to the west lateral uh and the reason we do that is to make an exchange so we can store some water in rv gap reservoir for later calls upon uh on the system so to help silt would also benefit uh west divided and operating our plan in conjunction with the the silt district and you i welcome you guys you yeah no we're ready if you're finished we'll pick it up from yeah yeah yeah okay all right good segue um um jerry seaford on the board of um salt water conservancy district uh michael erion with colorado river engineering i'm a user um under the in the silt water conservancy district and also water advisor to the board um so uh the the bureau of reclamation authorized s ilt project back in the 30s along with the colorado big thompson project the west divide project um and green mountain reservoir and um when they in 1966 when the silk project came online um that the first 52 000 acre feeding in green mountain reservoir was allocated to the colorado big thompson project the next 5000 acre feet was reserved and allocated to the silk project then there's the 66 000 acre foot historic users pool and then there's another pool above that that includes the the um 20 000 acre feet of contract water which houses the 200 acre feet that um west divide water has um green or green mountain reservoir is still slowly filling it may get some more fill but um it has it had the cbt water it had the cbt water it had the silt project water and it had a portion of the historic users pool water and we just learned maybe three weeks ago that the bureau pulled with no basis no legal basis the 5000 acre feet um for the silk project and we've had discussions with them the district's attorneys have talked to them and uh they don't give good answers but um they they said silt project can have 300 acre feet of their 5000 acre feet um that maybe runs the pump canal one week which maybe lets us operate this exchange and get the west divide water up in there um there was some discussion the end of last week and you know everybody's asking well why doesn't call out a big thompson project have to take a haircut here and um they agreed to take all of the evaporation out of their 52 000 acre feet thank you tongue in cheek but so so now silk project has been lumped in with all the other um folks and silk project now gets around 900 acre feet so maybe three weeks of the pump canal at the most at the most trouble is the pump canal is you know what they charge us an outrageous amount just turn it on whether it's a day a week a month whatever yeah three weeks isn't gonna you know you give the farmers hope it's just not not enough there to have so that 's why we're just trying to find where we can you know we just try and get that going because without it um there's going to be a lot of ranchers on silt mesa just won't get any hay and of course without any hay the cattle is going to go and prices and you know i know we can't make water but it's you know we wasn't the answer we were hoping for from green mountain if you've seen pictures of it it's a pond harvey gap is full but it's going to be probably a one and done we just there's not enough runoff and if you went by rifle gap there's just you can walk across that yeah so i think harvey gap is probably going to be a one we're starting to today i i just don't see it it's probably going to be a one-time deal ranchers are maybe going to get one shot and that's it and a lot of them without the pumpkin hell won't get any so so if i've got you right you dropped from 5 000 to 900 yes yes total okay this is 300 yeah 300 but um the the district's attorneys are very clear and firm that the 5 000 acre fee was clearly reserved for the self-project so we got a bureau got a big legal battle coming down the pike yeah that's another story yeah but it all really depends on how much water actually ends up in green mountain yeah they can't give it they're basically right that's right and they're not there it's not there they're not going to get much of it if they get any of it so anyway that's that's that's kind of the background on on uh why um silt water conservancy district is here um so of course silt water conservancy district would ask for the balance the other 200 acre feet um whatever you can but i i want to um go back and and back up that the county needs to reserve at least 10 acre feet and maybe conservatively 15 acre feet for road and bridge um the original impetus behind or part of um when the county acquired the 400 acre feet in 2014 um what was to also serve some county uses and lee leavenworth and i did a water court case for the county um to provide multiple points of diversion for road and bridge to take water um from the roaring fork from the colorado river to do mag chloride to do desk control um and so given that it you know even though the call is off right now it's going to be on i think most of of the year and so i think it's prudent that the county reserve 15 acre feet for road and bridge that's good thank you sure you are correct about that also if i'm following this correctly mr chairman am i okay here yes okay if i'm following this correctly out of the 400 acre feet that we have west divide would be okay with 200 and 200 going to you minus the 15. right that's that's that and you're working together to with the whole to make it work right yeah i mean that's we can yeah i mean the silk district's got to try and get the pump canal running at least a week or more to be able to exchange the west divide water into harvey gap otherwise i don't know the exact number but there will be a lot of residences out on silk mesa yeah that will be in violation of under strict administration they'd be they'd be turned off uh that's probably not going to happen the the division of water resources does not have the uh palette for that kind of action um um i think the derivation of that is what um the river district has been charging for um um the fish water if i remember right um the actual um um o and m annual o and m fees for the county are going to be less than three dollars an acre foot um however i i think in the accounting you you know the county made a i think it was in the ballpark of like 492 000 was the original purchase price of the 400 acre feed so if you know you look at some sort of cost recovery on that plus the three dollars of o and m um um you know i i don't know i i don't know who's looking at what the cost recovery is but it's probably in the ballpark of thirty dollars an acre foot if you were to include that in in pricing um so i i know that palisade just leased water 200 acre feet for eight thousand dollars for forty dollars an acre foot we were just asking your deliberation if you can um the the silt water conservancy district ours is for the users so we don't have any other way to um charge back contract water like west divide does they'll then charge their contractees for it um but but anyway if you guys could if possible give a give a little break on the cost because it you know it is something that you know that the the 5 000 acre feet should have been it you know i think green mountains probably a similar o and m cost of three dollars you know this an acre foot um so you know silk project is looking at spending money that's not in the budget well i'd love to be able to buy an acre foot of water for three dollars let's do this year huh who do we have online wendy wendy probably yeah wendy oh i'm just here to ask answer any technical questions for west of i that you all may have but um just taking in the conversation here thank you anyone else on there to speak cwcb wasn't on no they are aware of the meeting today okay so and they understand that there are two other requests in addition to theirs so they know about that today well i didn't see their request um they i've brought it back to the board twice before this meeting just verbally in my updates that talked about um they would be happy with whatever the board could provide thank you yeah they understand that there are other two other requests so you have three requests essentially and then i just wanted to clarify and i assume maybe it's the same with their board if you all approve it the the board then has to go back and and approve it and let you know but and where we're talking once we figure out what's going on we are going to have an emergency we actually meeting here in the next day or two so we can kind of we've got to get the ball rolling here so time is of essence i guess i have a question if if we were to give you the 185 or whatever what what's that gonna what's that gonna mean for for ag community is there gonna be another week or it would be yeah try try to get another week for some of the folks that are below the pump canal i mean we yeah i mean we'd like more and but yeah if you all need 200 um yeah i know i know we should reserve 15 for the county so um so of course you you mentioned maybe maybe the benefit to see that we should be to the fishery and could you explain that again simply an offer that if there 's the opportunity our priority is fulfilling the obligations the water obligations of the aug mentation plan of our augmentation plans but it because the fish are downstream the call that we're meeting is downstream if there's an opportunity to time or work with the cwcb to provide for a multiple benefit for an endangered species benefit of our return flows or the releases that are made we'd be happy to do that our board did discuss this issue at our last meeting and we are aware of the pricing of your product and uh are ready to act on the 200 acre feet uh based upon that that information and then if we don't use the 200 the whole 200 some way then we are open to uh to working with uh either the cwcb or silt for that center yeah so uh good thank you all right yep just real quick just for the board's benefit just to read the language right out of the water use agreement which is the agreement that you have with cwcb just so you understand it talks about it shall be within the county's sole discretion as to the determination of whether the rude eye water will be available and in what amount no minimum amount of rude eye water is guaranteed in any given year so just wanted you to understand that's the technical language within the agreement it's interesting bris what's your best prediction for i mean this is a serious question about you know endangered fish down there despite i mean if it's 400 acre foot or whatever is that gonna is that gonna save us that's no that's my simple answer is no um the more nuanced answer is there's been a theory out there for a long time that these fish have developed um have evolved in in a widely varying natural cycle of hydrology and that periodic drought may benefit them um we have seen in in my time at the river district the the ponds the nursery ponds that were that are there beside the river that are flooded to provide a nursery habitat and then drained when they're drained it's the non-native fish that remain in the pool and get caught in the drainage it's the native fish that seem to something triggers in them and they know they get out we're not finding the the endangered fish entrained in the in the ponds when they are drained so there may be an ecological advantage to uh periodic drought now that's not to welcome the drought for anybody or anybody or any reason but um it it's it's possible but the answer your question no 400 acre feet is is not gonna recover the fish it's not gonna make that big a difference it's not the cwcb's sole source of water for for the fish and certainly not the sole source of water for the recovery program thank you and you know we've we've been uh happy to do that and help help you know the endangered fish downstream with our water but that's been in much better years than yes than what we're talking about here so uh but thank you for that because that that was kind of my uh my impression as well i don't think that the you know garfield county and our 400 acre feet out of rudy is not the savior for endangered fish downstream wish wish it were but that's not i don't think that's probably the case uh initially didn't exxon provide something like 19 or 20 000 acre feet they have yeah historically there's been a number of uh of contractors who have uh essentially donated their their water to the endangered species program there's also been coordinated reservoir operations is an annual program that will not be happening this year simply because the priority is the historic use the the contracted use of that water the endangered fish are a an cillary benefit when there's water available we're truly an uncharted territory i think yes sir yeah well so we need action today right yeah well i'm i mean i remember when we first contracted with uh rudy for the 400 acre feet i i said and i've always said this is a wise decision and we need to be prepared for days like today and today is here so with that being said i would move that we lease out 200 acre feet to west divide and 185 acre feet to silk conservation district for a price of that's what we need to do that's what i was going to say for a price of i don't i'm not too i don't know that that's a good one because that's what we need to decide yeah uh we're gonna both sitting there we're gonna make a deal with the one and make charge the other one i mean you know let's that's this must be serious the price of water is gonna get it's gonna go up yeah yeah so uh yeah we're not selling to the highest bidder but it's it's uh i don't know if a fair equitable thing here is to is to charge you 84 85 and you 30 or 40 right i agree i'm revising the prospect if i could i don't mean to interrupt another another alternative is to not make the pricing decision right here at the dais right now um you've got the allocations for the amounts but then take a week so that we can evaluate with you and with what the requests are to come up with a fair price so that you don't have to do this sort of haggling unless you want to here at the dot well no i don't want to but it would be interesting to see what the so your board is going to meet an emergency meeting i think tomorrow yeah tomorrow night it would be interesting to see what the outcome that you know we kind of need some idea of a price so we can even i mean if i you know have some kind of an idea we're looking at it's going to be the full 85 or some reduction right i would pitch it at that yeah i was just going to help for the board's benefit for you all too so that number wasn't wasn't arbitrary that was a number that the county commissioners did obtain water legal counsel right a couple of years ago so it's now two years old just fyi and i don't think that number probably went down no i suspect that's probably number one like just as a baseline that maybe something yeah we don't we don't want to gouge anybody but by the same venue there price of water is this it's it's it's it's a tough deal where we have adjusted our rates periodically and have the last couple of years simply from an inflationary standpoint not from a drought situation and uh what we did this year was done back in in october uh all our clients all our clients have been billed and most have paid and that price is locked in for this year we will not go back and revisit uh to rebuild anybody you know the deal's done a done deal for us for this year it's the same with us our bills are out and for project and fico water it's out and uh and most of them they had to be paid before today for what went on so so let's just leave that yeah but michael explain explain i guess the ability to pay at that price whether or not the district can or yeah um i just i don't know what to say i guess i have to yeah i mean i so what that's something you're going to have to decide yeah yeah the board will have to just yeah i'll have to decide yeah so what what what ballpark we think i'm just a rough idea there's 85. 85. yeah he said 85 and i think that's where we need to okay if they're going to get it for 85 i'm not going to charge you more than 85. but yeah and that's you know we'll have our meeting tomorrow night and we'll you know i guess we'll know yeah we can say yeah and and it's uh it's tough times and i i hope and pray that we get a lot of rain this spring summer and fall and i think that's all it's possible but who knows yeah but if it doesn't and that's a very likely possibility the price of water is going to go up even more so yeah so that's my motion okay mr chairman i think that's going to be a second and we'll decide on the price on a later date so we need to vote man we can put them on the agenda for next week just so we're all really clear on what the we'll uh we'll do that we'll meet him then we'll come back next week with what that's all i can say i don't know i got eight other board members so i can't sure you know sure we understand so we'll need to vote tough tough here tough tough here yes obviously we want to help out our producers whatever the county can do to ease the pain um so we need to vote call the question all those in favor all those in favor aye aye thank you thank you thank you thank you bless you guys for having that 400 acre p you take a break yeah chairman big limited break okay okay we're back we're back from our break and back to you mr jarman action items you bet thank you commissioners um next item this morning this is to consider leasing uh excuse me uh this is the request for a non-profit this i'll get it right non-profit discretionary grant funding of ten thousand dollars for the middle colorado watershed council and kate collins the executive director is here to make that request okay so yes it's budget so so kate chris right from the start let's talk about the difference between this request and your request for discretionary grants because there is a difference you you talked about that and uh one's for fire and the other is for water conservation i'm sure the first one is for a match grant to that furworm grant for specifically for the color ado river wildfire collaborative which is our major project of the middle colorado watershed okay yeah so thank you um as you know we've we've been in touch a lot this year and uh and i think that 's been great to work so closely with the board of county commissioners first of all i'd just like to thank you for being a category a partner on the uh roan creek fish barrier that project is a wrap except for the uh continued weed monitoring and bed management which we'll do through 2028 spring and fall um thanks to sarah la rose being so good at her job and that's something that we feel really strongly about um stewarding as well but a million dollar project with uh bureau of reclamation as the main funder we couldn't have done that without garfield county being a category a partner um you've also been supporters of our rifle creek restoration which a year ago commissioner will joined us at the um uh colorado growing water smart workshop in montrose three days of doing a deep dive and really brainstorming on which areas of rifle creek to restore first how to do it and i'm just so excited that we have a half a million dollars in play um on engineering modeling and design excuse me a quarter million dollars 250 000 on engineering modeling and design for projects in rifle creek so government creek is funded um to do some low-tech process-based restoration to try to prevent that sediment from pouring into rifle creek it's a wonderful thing that we got an invitation from colorado river collaborative flex funding to apply for their money you have to do it by invitation only and government creek isn't exactly like a sexy project where where uh we're gonna beautify something pretty rough country yeah be able to put our feet in the water so that that's a big deal kind of a pristine that's happened um for deer field park we have a pending grant through colorate climate smart communities initiative and you've also given us support letters and things for those things and the city of rifle together with a private rifle funder is doing engineering modeling and design for centennial park right now we'll have a really comprehensive plan that'll be ready for um shovel ready implementation funding and that should be by the summer you know in the next couple of months and then you'll park isn't supposed to be ready then a dedicated at the end of june well what it will be is it'll be a plan so we'll have a shovel ready plan ready to go and then we can go for implementation funding to get the work done i think commissioner i think the city has some work they're doing that maybe the subject of the dedication this is the the creek the border creek uh rifle creek bordering the park that we're talking about oh no big two different oranges and apples a little bit there same they're both fruit same land different project so we we also um delivered a flibial hazard mapping um and that exists now with garfield county planning and they're excited to have that as a resource that's in rival creek no it's on the colorado river main stem yep um just a couple more things i told you about sam fearborn being our program manager for the colorado river wildfire collaborative and uh just excited to see where the program goes because he's really going to get to author how he gets this job done which is exciting with a brand new position that in um brings our staffing from two to three people um at river stop our interpretive center in rifle on lions pond i'm really excited to to report that we had a private philanthropist step up to fund um keeping that open from may 20th to september 29th five days a week we'll have a river stop mentor there all of those days and then a river stop intern who's actually uh through roaring fork outdoor volunteers youth and nature program she's a graduating Glenwood springs senior who's going to be studying engineering at cu boulder environmental engineering and she is the first in her family to go to college so it's just like a really feel good project in addition to that we have a senior in rifle that's in the the visitor center that's right okay i invite you for a visit there because we have interpretive displays on the 15 mile reach and many many other river ecology and watershed ecology displays there are there any displays around the pond we have just completed some beautiful murals that we'll be dedicating in a business after hours mixer on may 14th i invite you to that as well those are more around the building than than around the pond there is an opportunity uh you can hike around i mean people fish right now there's an opportunity for interpretive signs around the pond for education and the ones there probably need to be replaced because the sun just bake some right there um so we have a senior in rifle as well who's volunteering with us to staff river stop she's a lifelong rifle resident who has a lot of deep knowledge in both the natural history and history history um the intern will spend part of her time at powers ranch that's a ranch right on rifle creek 120 acres and that landowner has expressed that they'd like for that to become a learning lab and really a demonstration of restoration projects for middle colorado watershed council since we've got things happening north and south of that um along the rifle creek restoration is that a different powers and the powers in car in carbon it's the same power yeah he's a good friend to middle colorado yeah right uh we also will be following up this afternoon with a very large private foundation um national foundation we've given them a concept paper for watershed education and uh re2 no longer has a science curriculum for grades k through five so um the timing of that is really important and we what they've indicated to us is that they'd like to provide funding for one year as kind of a pilot program to see if we can use river stop in the environment there lions pond colorado river to do um watershed education for youth really k through 12 is what they're looking at we'll probably narrow that down to k through five for a year you said garfield re2 no longer has a sense curriculum from grades one through five k through five they're not going to teach any science this is what i understand from i've never heard that yeah um one of the teachers and also uh one of the parents and so they just uh they've just had to really streamline curriculum okay thank you you're welcome and then on the education front as well we just concluded our fire and water speaker series where we um we welcomed 300 community members to three different events in february march and april um so much of the work that we do with our grants and things is really under the radar and so the fire and water speaker series in our wild and scenic film fest are important for visibility for our organization and just outreach to the community um how'd that go to you jennifer uh there are about 45 folks uh less fewer people than what i'd hope would show up however the ones who showed up were very very engaged and stayed all the way through the film and the expert panel yeah i was gonna come but i was at the track meet i think we gave you a bye for that commissioner so the the funds that i'm um asking for with this part of the agenda are the funds that were budgeted last fall in for 2026 it's important operating money for our organization when we get grants these big grants it sounds so good and then um we're able to use just usually 10 percent of each of those grants for indirect costs to cover overhead staffing administration and so the fundraising that we do and the community contributions to our our operations are really essential and we're very very grateful thank you so on the 500 000 grant you have for the rifle creek you that is primarily engineering and then you're going to have to come back to say to get those done you're going to have to come back with additional grants so let me just clarify and i'm sorry that i said a half million when i should have said a quarter million quarter okay and so okay what we have are several grains so for um for centennial park it's the city of rifle and a private funder investing 47 000 in that plan um for government creek we have the colorado river collaborative flex funding and also a sonoran grant growing water smart grant and we're waiting to hear from um water education colorado ah healthy rivers fund is the other pending one that would be um we would apply that to permitting so that's about 110 000 and then aspen healthy no it's a colorado state it's part of the department of natural resources administered by the cwcb it's good you have chris on your board he knows all these he knows where the money is i'm starting to find out wish i knew more he even knows there's some of the skeletons yeah and then uh deer field park um that's the climate smart communities initiative and um we applied for that in partnership with city rifle and with american rivers and you have to have a climate practitioner which american rivers is that so so so how about a section of rifle creek from rifle gap to municipality all right will there be projects in that in that section is when deer deer field park it's in rifle isn't it yeah and and the government creek sediment loading um will be right there by like city market that's an important that's important there's also a significant project work going on not through middle colorado but on the powers ranch uh bre tt thompson manages that ranch and has done wonderful work and has is definitely using that and part of the the interest of the owner and in having that as a a living lab is is the work that he's done the progress he 's made um on on rifle creek through the property and now the city will own that does own the golf course golf course yeah that's an exciting water rights development great water rights great move we just concluded the construction of the grand tunnel ditch flume we increase that from a 24 inch flume to a 36 inch flume that's all finished grant funded with 21 000 and thank you questions additional questions mike additional questions is the comment i made i don't think you were here last time when i was a kid i used to have the job of cleaning that ditch and i've crawled through that tunnel don't try that no no i was much smaller than oh before osha hey gentlemen this is an action item yeah go through the uh through the quest of uh first paragraph running at 10 000 for the little colorado watershed council second there is no further comment i'll call a question all in favor aye thank you thank you thank you thank you commissioners big meeting today water today water today yeah two most waters for fighting let's keep drinking that's right they say get our two most important action items and the room is empty almost back to you mr yes last action item this morning is um this is your work comp audit results uh for 2026 quarter one the executive summary and brian lee your safety and loss prevention specialist all right has been waiting and thanks for your patience b rian's here to present it's good stuff thank you for having me um this is more of an update than a than an action item uh there are action uh for me uh but uh not necessarily for the for the board this morning um so i wanted to provide an update on uh some things from q1 of 2026 uh starting with our pinn acle workers compensation audit so they review uh the information that we give them uh to to receive coverage when we apply for coverage and then they um they compare those uh those projected uh values with the actuals uh for 2025 and there can be an adjustment of the premium uh based based on that so essentially we uh we went through a couple of iterations of the audit uh for 2025 we had about an eight percent increase in um in salaries and payroll uh from our projected to our actual so initially we we were presented with an increase of about um about a 38 000 increase to our uh to our annual premium uh working with glenwood insurance they've they're our broker on the work comp side they've been excellent to work with uh they were able to uh to help me work to to reclassify about 70 different uh different payroll positions to lower risk work comp classification good job so that that was huge so that on that that actually resulted in a credit that's that's hard to uh get done actually it took a little bit of uh persuading yes a little bit uh but but yeah so we were able to reclassify those positions uh that information is now with payroll that's been updated and so we'll we'll have those lower risk classification codes uh going forward so that that resulted in a credit of about uh 2895 dollars uh so we we saved a little bit on on our yeah that's great um so that was that was the first thing i wanted to touch on uh for q1 and then as far as our uh work comp metrics um the total claims we 've had so far for for 2026 in q1 are eight claims that's that's down a little bit uh from q1 of 2025 we had 13 claims we averaged about um 10 or so claims uh per quarter in in 2025 so uh the total claims are down um the injuries we are having though have been fairly severe uh resulting in in somewhat significant costs one was uh required surgery and um and lost work so so that's the indemnity claim um surgery uh yes yes was um so that's uh that's that's the primary uh focus for for 2026 for for safety and loss prevention is is to try to address these um some of these more severe injuries that uh that are occurring um we've had a we've had a good improvement in our um in our claim reporting so uh we've we've reported 100 of the claims within two days uh that's up from 76 percent reported within two days in in 2025 uh so you know training on the uh the reporting process and how that works has has been effective and we've seen some improvements there um and really that's that's pretty key for um for ensuring that employees get the benefits um um right you know exactly yeah so when when something does happen it's reported promptly and that's to our employees benefit um so those are those are some of the some of the key metrics for q1 um i think one of the key takeaways is is um we're incorporating the wellness program into safety and loss prevention and i i really think wellness is um is a factor in a lot of injuries uh it can be a factor in a lot of strains that's um that's maybe not studied as as well but i think is is an area that we can focus on and and move the needle to to improve some of these so all right you're including hr's wellness program that's correct with the state with safety yep safety wellness and loss prevention really there's there's kind of a trifecta there and so is that then that one group that is meeting or are there still two two groups uh we we do have separate groups um i met with the uh safety committee last week and we uh we discussed the idea of combining that as as one committee and uh the safety committee voted to to focus on safety specialize in that and we also have a an additional wellness committee that will will focus on some of those wellness initiatives to to really focus on on total worker health yeah okay thank you yeah i think there's a there's a loss prevention component there too you know if uh if people are uh more focused um you know doing better on the mental health side you know we'll see less uh auto accidents things like that i really think these these three um these three programs working together can talk about wellness and this is not workers confidence wellness do you who monitors our our gym in the rifle admin building uh facilities facilities does that is that tied back to wellness it it is in the sense that um employees can get um a wellness reimbursement credit through exercise and so by garfield county providing that opportunity to exercise that facility to exercise then um our employees can can apply for that wellness reimbursement credit and then we then can show to cbt the amount of employees we have participating in that program and if we if we hit 75 of employees participating in in that wellness reimbursement credit we get that's a big number we get a credit back from our our health insurance companies yeah 75 is a big number exactly so so similar to the cost containment certification that we can achieve through work comp insurance if we demonstrate you know we're doing all these things to have a robust work comp program um it's similar to to our employees health insurance if we demonstrate we're doing all these things for wellness essentially it's going to save them money they give us a credit and so do we have our workers comp plan done is that before we get our five percent uh reduction is that that that went through absolutely yeah that went through um as of february 21st we received a uh 25 000 and change credit from from pentagram for having a workers comp plan exactly what's that plan called though it's not workers comp plan it's something else yeah it's um you know there's a whole host of uh of different of different things kind of combined into that cost containment certification but it's it's having you know the uh the written uh workers compensation handbook it's a hand book and having uh having all those having all those different uh things in place and thanks good job thank you sir that was it that was a goal so good job on that musical yeah brian worked really hard and a lot of people part of that team yeah it's a success for the county with your your all's direction commissioner yeah and we'll reapply for that um for that certification again uh at the end of 2026 you know kind of january 2027 i'll submit that reapplication um you have to do it annually at first and then it's and then you automatically receive that that credit uh every three years then you're affiliated black so well a big part of the partnership is with pulmon insurance just to restate that one more time they're a great partner it was a great decision by the board to bring them on and it's proved really beneficial not only from the work comp side but also all the exact yeah keep some dollars local actually that's right sure yeah yeah they've been a great broker that's worked okay have we had i see volunteer rescue on here have we had some work comp claims from search and rescue uh we we have not in in 2025 or or 2026 okay great yeah yeah because there is risk and risk in that absolutely yeah we we did increase our uh search and rescue force our uh the amount of people we have in that in that department and so that can lead to a to an increase in the annual premium because there is some risk there but yeah we cover volunteers yeah exactly yeah yeah statutory volunteers that's right we have separate insurance for um for folks who who work at the county fair and right and things like that yeah okay tell us about your your strategic focus like so um you know continuing to to focus on on the six metrics of the cost containment program you know if you're running a robust uh work comp program ideally you're gonna have uh reductions in injuries so that 's that's my primary focus it both qualifies for uh in the annual premium credit but it also bolsters the safety culture in the county and it has um it has meaningful uh reductions in injuries so that's that's primary cost containment certification criteria um and then secondarily i think by adding that wellness wellness program and focusing on the total worker health that'll that'll get us even a step further in in keeping people safe at work so are you integrating um i guess what i would call the admin staff with the sheriff staff are you integrating uh some of the sheriffs with the sheriff safety program absolutely yeah i think and i think reaching out to um you know focusing on the on the safety program with the sheriff is is key um and do they have a safety group as you have a safety group and they had an inside they safety is a is a top priority for them they don't have a safety committee per se like like like we do as as the county-wide but each uh each commander you know uh the patrol uh commanders you know they're they 're they're they're their safety uh safety books i think you know we don't and i used to kind of poof-poo safety until i started looking at workers comp more and if you have you you're talking about safety and you're out there we've become more safe it's just it's a fact absolutely keeping it front of mind you know is is key it's it's not uh as much younger when i put the sick much younger yeah i i think yeah you're out there you go older you're out there not so much anymore yeah i think i think just about any accident is preventable you know i think i think by by taking certain measures we can and looking at the causes and looking and going through reports the forces and so absolutely yeah but like this i mean they 're they're they're like defensive tactics the firearm trainers all those really keen in the same thing yeah yeah they they have a great a great team over there absolutely yeah and i i don't want to i don 't want to change uh their program you know i know they need to i know they need to uh practice defensive tactics and and apprehension tactics at live speed you know and i think i think similar to you know an nfl team might have problems with hamstring injuries they don't they don't tell them to run slower or uh or ease up you know but they but they implement other things to just make them a little bit healthier a little bit um a little bit safer and that's that's how you move it to wins yeah absolutely okay other questions ryan have you you got it is that that 's that's all i have uh i want to thank you for the work you're doing thank you sir questions mike hearing any more no good saving you yeah good report but hopefully q2 q3 come in just as strong it's absolutely yes we won't uh we won't let up we'll keep keep on it thank you commissioners thank you thank you ryan we have one more item on your uh published agenda this morning and that is your periodic oil and gas liaison update uh including the energy symposium and recent rulemaking summary and oil and gas liaison kirby winn good morning kirby it's still morning uh is here to present good morning it should still be morning when i'm finished yeah happy morning when you're finished we'll have to come back to us on our questions so all right kirby all right and just thank you for the energy symposium it's wonderful it's well received great net great networking good educational uh programs just thank you for all of that good everybody loves it and they want to come back they do indeed in droves which is good so i'll hit on just sort of a few topics uh just sort of general oil and gas activity sorts of things energy symposium and also some state and federal rule makings that i've been working on the last few months so as as laced to the state and federal things especially the state ones as you have designed and i've been carrying on for you is uh you prioritize anticipating and development of regulations by the energy and carbon management commission and also the color ado air quality commission on your behalf i've been working to advocate for rules that best reflect characteristics of western the rural areas of colorado certainly including the beyond space and geology and we continue to participate in most of these rule making as a coalition called the western and rural local government coalition of 15 counties seven to western color ado and eight in the far eastern corner of the state plus uh eight municipalities in our general area including uh city of craig and colbron and of course our city of meeker and all of our towns uh here other than uh limit springs uh within the county so as an ongoing activity there's i don't know there's seems to be five or six rule making as a year it seems like they continue ever regular pace you would think that they would have gotten where they think they need to be but uh i don't know maybe it'll slow down a year or two i don't know they're still still working at it and with the last year i think this this state administration the polls administration i know they're trying to kick out just a few more things but i think before he's out of offices there will be probably the new news people appointed to those the commissions would imagine i would think so i don't know if the governor's uh rogdon i would think so yeah so we could hope to see some folks that uh might see that we have enough regulatory burden already but uh anyway we'll keep working at it um so i'll talk about those a little bit more but just our local oil and gas activity we do have two active drilling rigs that are over in real blanco county one's operated by terra the others like qb and again they're just right over the is is terra now flywheel yes so it's it's uh it's uh terra it's uh it's not terra energy partners anymore it's uh it's a terra rocky mountain llc so it is so but it but it is flywheel is the flywheel is the parent company yes and so we had some of those flywheel folks come over from oklahoma they came over to the suppose and actually one was on our industry leaders panel this year great so laramie had been drilling uh they laid that rig down in february they hope to bring that back and they'll bring back to gar field county for an extended period beginning this fall if they stay on the plan that they currently have i mean you never really know until it happens but then also good news is chevron has been talking about this for quite a while been planning but they're mobilizing a rig i mean right now today this week they're standing up a rig on their property in western garfield county over in the rhone creek drainage on their property and they're going to drill they will drill two horizontal wells so that's a significant change for us because you know that's there's that manca sh ale the sea of natural gas in manca shale it's like 10 000 feet down so they're going to go horizontally much more expensive operation but they're going to test a couple of wells and they'll be drilling those and they'll be completing them i mean it's just the first horizontal wells in the peanuts no there's aren't they probably 10 or 12 total okay and years ago when i was kind of early in my tenure here of 14 years the operators started testing a little bit but then the gas prices really went down and i i don't really know it just seemed like that was sort of the deciding factor that they sort of laid off but terry energy is also going to drill a couple at least one i think more than one right there just outside of parachute uh later this year so they're going to be testing almost r d to see what what's down there and how much gas that you can get out yep so that's that's you know it works out maybe that would change the prognosis for our area where we have operators looking at a more significant resource that they could tap or well maybe that's about 10 000 feet 10 to 12 kind of depending where you are is my that's my understanding that's that's not rare yes not rare which is in our area we call it to make a shell but it is probably not sure it is not brown okay you said the chevron that was going to be done or you you didn't finish that question they're they're going to drill those two horizontal wells in the may to july period so they're going to start drilling now they won't be done drilling until july i guess on the two wells and then they'll work on completing it good good good good good yeah welcome news yeah chevron's help pulls all that property hasn't had any activity for so that's great they really haven't so yeah the one thing they didn't do they they changed their capital plan they were originally this was over a year ago they're talking about they were going to go down to 17 000 feet and do a geothermal energy resource test as part of they're going to it was going to be the same well they're going to do horizontal but they were just going to instead of stopping at 10 000 and and going horizontal they were going to go down to 17 000 do some testing and then sort of plug that up and then complete but they they abandoned uh trying to do that horizontal test at least for the the geothermal test for right now so that was that's a shame because it's been interesting to see what they would find because the state does rate our area has high potential for geothermal that's just how do you get it to the market because everything's so remote yes so uh county permitting activity we are continuing to see some permitting activity by terra and also karis oil and gas and laramie and chevron there's a couple of permits right now they're working through the county permit karis is now qb right or is it care oh yes i'm sorry yeah qb energy okay that's what happens when you recycle an old that's right y'all i don't get your names right my apologies well it's been about since i've been here about six different yeah man it was in canna when i started yeah yeah when i started it was in canna as well and williams oh just for that and bill barrett yeah bill barrett yeah and that's all that bill barrett stuff is now part of the terra flywheel do they own the leases up on the room you know i think all they were saying after all that was said and done there was like two leases kind of right up like two races yeah still up there still have two on the slope but that that's barrett or is that that's now terra yeah good there and ursa we're going to go through the whole laundry list ursa's down part of territory um let's see uh so citizen concerns complaints uh happy to report haven't really had much activity the last few months it's generally been pretty nominal sort of things like traffic or private road maintenance issues that sort of thing i get the occasional call and i'll give the operators and they fix the situation is if they're if they have big trucks on what are not what you've deemed your preferred hall routes and the operators do a pretty good job of enforcing that i don't think there's actual regulation for it but they do toe the line in terms of your uh your preferred hall routes by and large yeah we had had better pavement on those roads yep so uh and then also the energy advisory board uh as you know we continue we do i do continue on your behalf to to uh plan and run those uh quarterly energy advisory board meetings on a schedule of march may august and december we actually have a meeting uh just later this week there won't be too much going on on that one the educational presentations of late have really been focused on a lot of these oil and gas rule makings and regulatory things as you may or may not recall uh the john messer with the ecmc does a pretty good job of attending most of those meetings as a non-voting member so the ecmc is always is almost always at those meetings and then we also do have been getting a good participation from the blm and the forest service they're pretty regular they send someone at least one person that might give either a forest service or both blm and forest service update to let our citizens know what's going on in the federal domains or is there pretty much a full board it's no there's there's some gaps in it right now so we'll have anywhere from 12 to 18 members that will sit in on a meeting in terms of attendance but there are some vacant seats that i haven't really it's tough because with the activity level and not being in the area there's a lot of folks expressing not interest not really interested in coming other than our long-term members so like there's divide we do have divide creek we don't have anyone in the rome creek which is where the chevron area is right now we don't have like the rifle north which is like the municipality i mean city rifle sits on it but as far as the citizen representative for that north area there's no activity so that one's vacant grass mesa um homework association or that community they officially just said you know things have kind of passed us by where we don't have concerns anymore so we 're just not going down the board so there's seats available but they're they don't i haven't found them to be like priorities just oh my god we've got to fill the seat because there's these issues in this area so there are some gaps but i think we have the key ones covered good thank you long way of saying not a lot sorry yeah it's still it's an important board yeah it needs and i appreciate you keeping it going because it is important we get all those all those members together to talk about what's going on i guess this is important so that's like say the ones that are there they're all very dedicated the operators do a good job of showing up so that makes it all work and the rifle tv they don't film it as often i guess they film two or three meetings a year now where they used to film everyone or even when we 're doing it 10 months a year so we do get some exposure there as well um public comments we really haven't had anything significant come in the last three or meetings that i can recall when i look back at the notes and we get either zero to one or two at most uh public commenters um in a meeting and then we'll uh community counts comes every meeting most every meeting if not they give me a report i'll give one to the behalf and is community counts still active they are still active they're still there and they're um they have a great i'm sitting on them i actually sit on that board i'm not an officer of the board but i've been sitting on on that board for a while just to help out and make sure it 's it's at the table where it needs to be and they have a really great uh carla's the executive director she's does a fantastic job and she's by her own agreement has she doesn't have a real requirement of i need to work this many hours to to stay on the board she's happy to not do as much while there's not as much activity going on so it's a really a perfect fit she's very good at it she 's not driving the expenses up she's driving the expenses down which is great for now which also reflects that i think what what you approved and you you provide some funding support to them and i think you passed on that this year because they have some reserves they really didn't need it which was good yeah they're great yeah uh let's see energy symposium um so we just had our 12th annual we had about we had we full we did have we had 345 people registered there was a highway closure and we lost five or seven folks just because they just decided it was just too much like the t uesday night before but 335 folks did attend so that was great we actually the tuesday night we have sort of a warm-up sort of a meet and greet event it was at the rifle youth theater this year a commissioner will i believe was there for that i thought that as a new venue worked out really well we had a even with the highway people it took them five and a half to seven hours to get here on that tuesday night and we had 190 folks that had to show up that meet and greet we checked them in gave them the name badge and so that was a success considering it was a 75 car car pile up on i-70 that oh that was that that was a clown yeah that was a mess but they showed up uh hungry and thirsty i'll say that and that's just pretty much networking or do you do a presentation there that's strictly networking because everybody just comes in there and they just sort of re-energize and see each other from not seeing each other from last year or whatever and a lot of great food that sort of thing so just sort of a few hours did you think that was all right great venue i thought the food we had barbecue we had a a mountain of charcuterie sort of it was pretty pretty amazing and we do anonymous surveys on on all the all the elements because i don't know being me i just don't want to do the same event every year and make the same mistakes unknowingly so we we poll folks anonymously we had 80 folks this year that filled out our survey to tell us how we did they're very candid they give us all the comments i'll say this the barbecue on tuesday night was the best barbecue ever except for one person thought it was horrible so you you go with the 90 percent why did they comment why i don't know something about uh the burn-ins and so if you don't like grilled smoked fatty meat don't eat grilled smoked fatty meat because that's what it is what it is what it is three rounds of myself i'm good for the bad yeah yeah whatever but no it's but it's good but we get a lot of good feedback and every year we shape things based on specific comments but just sort of an overview you have in your handout but i think it's worth mentioning um the key one for me it tells me did we have success and and i talked a lot of folks that do a lot of events and we get numbers that you just don't see you take your average community of people you bring them to an event a lot of them are just going to go this is just kind of not my bad right and so you just you can't only do so well but we had 95 very or extremely satisfied yeah it's with the two-day experience i mean that's we never had that high we've had close but that's you can't do it then 97 were i was happy this because victoria our contractor and myself we worked really hard over the last five months but 97 and we have a great team as you saw at the event i have a lot of folks involved we have hired contractors that are event planners we have a lot of county staff that help us out as well that i'll talk about thanks for the county staff that helps out that you break them that was huge i'm going to mention those by name great team effort yeah thank you thanks commissioners it's huge but to mention one thing there is i think the biggest testament that you have is from day one of when we started until now you have many of the same people returning and to me that shows you that you're successful in other words if a person goes to it and they go this this isn't doing it for me or this just wasn't good or this whatever they're not coming back we have i mean i see many of those people that i've seen for the past 12 years that are still coming because they see it as a valuable experience and that's what they always tell me that we're able to pull in great speakers people who know what they're talking about and they want to learn from them you know that to me that's you know this is all good too but to me it's just they want they want to be there and they want to talk to their fellow oil and gas people and network with them and so on and there's i know there's other opportunities like that within western colorado or the united states to do that but this has become a big thing to a lot of people they're going to be there and they're there yeah we bring them from yuma county washington county la plata county i mean every corner of the state we had uh 50 or 52 distinct local governments and tax supportive districts that were in the payas from from every part of the state either one to five people per and so that i mean that to me is a testament of it and what we've done again with your support we've in all these years we've never turned away local government for cost i mean it costs a good few hundred dollars to come as a local government it costs a lot more if your industry and uh any little local government they want to come they have they have a reason to learn about oil and gas they get to come and we have sponsors that make sure that no one gets turned away from a local government and that's our priority and that's i don't know it's just good to do that because it's a first-class event and nobody gets turned away if you're a local government great um so yeah 97 like they thought the event organization management was uh top-notch and that was good 87 we're extremely or very satisfied with the steak fry event that's that's a big deal that's a big piece of what we plan every year but people really value that it's a four-hour time block of networking and food and just really having those more robust conversations after the first day of being in the room and learning about all the topics so so that was as continues to be valued uh 89 very extremely satisfied with as you were talking about commissioner the topics and the speakers and then uh and that's 89 and then if you included just people who were to say i'm satisfied with the speakers and topics that's 97 so we're not leaving too many people behind on on what we're presenting i i guess i'd say um 93 very extremely satisfied with the catered breakfast and the keynote lunches um we have a fellow from brick house comes in and does that food for two days straight and i mean he he's got a great team he works hard and and it the results showed that people really love the food which is a good piece part of you know you have you take care of people for two days you want to feed them right and so i feel like that's right 91 were very extremely satisfied uh with the uh that was the tuesday evening uh meet and greet and that was our first time event at that at that location location the rifle youth theater their staff was fantastic to work with and so we really look forward to to having that again there again so then uh there's an odd sort of scale it's kind of hard to describe but on a scale of one to ten we asked people what's the likelihood that you would recommend to a colleague or a friend or someone that they come to the symposium next year and 82 scored us as a nine or a ten which is considered promoters if someone said yeah this is a great event but i scored an eight out of ten that's almost like you didn't really care so 82 said i'm definitely telling when i get home tell these people they should join us so that's you feel good when when they're going to be that word of mouth marketing to bring the right audience to us next year um the revenue did exceed our expenses by good margin so uh it didn't there was no tax tax dollars expended on this event it's all ticket revenue and sponsors hips thank you you bet and then um so again that's this is it and then let's see the event youtube channel um that's in your link there and i'll send out another one we've just about got all of the about to turn on and make live all the 20 good 26 presentations here pretty quick the keynote speaker on the second day so i'm i want to listen to that then uh so how do how do we pull this thing together i mean i do a lot but i'm not it so victoria havens is a contractor she continues to be indispensable she was just her second year helping me out and she just helps with all the bookkeeping and all kinds of organizational sort of things allow me to focus on like this year we recruited 43 different speakers and that's a lot of cast of hurt i'll tell you what yeah it takes a lot of time a lot of communication i get a lot of relief by having that sort of support and help so that i can focus on making sure that that works right because we got nothing if we don't have our speakers and they understand what their job is when they get here that sort of thing so um we've received a ton of assistance from the other county departments i just can't overstate how much i appreciate um the support of this commission and administration and the department heads and individual employees that helped us out so special thank you and gratitude for my colleagues facility the facilities team um on the setup day on tuesday which is a big deal it's a lot to do jason westner and spencer evans uh showed up for that and helped out and then uh when we shut down the event on the thursday afternoon dave edler and tracy w affler joined them to help us on the tear down i'm really we're converting a room from seating for for uh 300 people like in just road seating like they have for the sanctuary we turn into as you see the six top tables thing that's a big turnaround and then to put it back the way the church wants it and then i really want to mention at the last minute i didn't realize we were short a couple of folks uh road and bridge folks uh jd france and jimmy snowden they showed up and man they just showed up ready to go and i mean we had to keep up with them they were great they just said let's go we got this thing and setting all those tables exactly 10 feet not 10 feet two inches apart that sort of thing which is extremely important and those guys were just fantastic so that was helpful and then uh for community development brooke winchel helped out for the two full days of the event organization and management again that's a great relief for me because she really knows what we're trying to do why we're there and so she's flagging things for me and victoria to make sure that we just keep everything running really smoothly so that was great and then for our tear down on the to close it all up the planners heather john philip and glenn plus brooke they helped for a couple hours along with those other folks i mentioned to help us put that put the church back in the way the church needed it and to get us out the door with all of our stuff and everything out so that's a big big deal and then also that's uh coral over there kelsey kelsey kelsey the playground excuse me so she made available uh jack stew art and obed ramos um they deliver straw up there that steak fry and they brought uh some county-owned generators that we use as back we actually use one of them but one of them we have there just for a backup in case our our uh rental ones are actually uh they were donated from rifle equipment this year that we have any power issues so we didn't have any problem there and then jack and old dad they went back on thursday after the steak fry and i guess some raccoons had gotten into the the trash receptacle thing that was up there on that private property and they took the time and went over and they picked up all this trash that shouldn't have been there to make sure the landowner was taken care of it was that they went way above and beyond is that heather's property again yes yes and so that was a big deal they just like i said all these folks just not even thinking twice and they're just putting in that extra effort to make the county look good just represent all the trucks in the canis that was great so i just i don't thank you to all of them and thank you to all y'all for making sure those we those people were available that's all i had on the symposium other than if you want to do another one the 13th annual i would propose that it would be you have direction from us to do another okay yes so then if we do everything the same it'll be april 13 to 15 next year okay and we'll start gathering up our speakers and a lot of sort of stuff and coming up with another fresh agenda yeah you got to start planning in those those both keynotes i think it was arjun i can't say his name arjun yeah arjun he was excellent and uh roger he was actually better in a little breakout session than he was on stage yeah i have to say i thought he was really good in the room there with us and then when he got on stage it was i just it was yeah it was good it was great it was just seemed like a breakout he was yeah he was more relaxed well he's good but he really knows his stuff but he's he's more of an academic and so it's it's a different type of thing but again we're just trying to hit different strokes every year we're trying to hit the bigger national global pictures with those keynotes every year and so um we'll be searching for two fresh ones for next year and i think the color of the legislature should hear from both of them yeah yeah no the arjun was great and uh and he actually donated his time which was amazing because he's he's a high high profile guy for sure wow and he was he was willing to to come and help us out which is um that's great so we 'll plan for that in our 13th annual i'm going to give myself another month we'll have to before i force myself to really think about again i might just just put it aside for a few days a few more days i got a few things to catch up on but we'll get after um oil gas commission and other rule makings um sort of a mapping burger on this one but the ecmc they just completed their high priority habitat rulemaking this year they focused on the southeast quadrant of the state and if you may recall but every year they they go from the southeast to northeast to the northwest which is us and then the southwest and so they just worked their way around every four years so this year was more on the southeast corner what we paid attention to and we did the attention was to make sure that the the only thing they did in our area was grouse and raptor snapping and so we took a close look at that to make sure it matched what fred is most involved with to make sure that nothing oddball got thrown into the mix and they did not so pretty perfun ctory as expected that's the only recent ecmc rulemaking and then the air quality control commission uh there's been a few of those including during the symposium which was not ideal but anyway in fe bruary they had a regulation seven rulemaking we were a party with our western rural local government coalition i did the work on that on your behalf and overall we supported the the air pollution control divisions proposal to revise regulation seven primarily what they're doing was aligning colorado's air quality rules with epa's non-point source subpart quad oc the ozone and precursor type of regulation so they really just they they didn't do anything too wild and crazy on that one they just aligned with the federal standards and rules so that they're same similar instead of two different sets of compliance for operators in the area so that one was okay we supported uh and we did actually see that achieved was a small operator which is our area all of our operators smaller operators a greenhouse gas intensity exemption uh and the rules through 2030 that was a very important one that benefits our pious operators so we were there at the table to to help fight for something so in 2030 is that going to be back on the table yes so the rule is already written on what they'll have to comply with but they've got a lot more years they've got a few more years to uh work their way through uh tech technological advances and other things to make it as hopefully as painful pain less as possible come at 20 30. then uh the regulation uh 24 26 and 30 that one was during the symposium i actually managed to do the testimony on that one on that thursday right after the symp osium um i kept my head up long enough to get that done but that was priority uh toxic air contamin ants rulemaking and that was a big that was a big deal there's a lot of problems with that one depending on what your perspective is where the state was pretty strident and what they were pushing for and asking for we got some some allowances and we got denied flatly on some others but we supported the as always the science-based um priority toxic air emission control regulations that are technically feasible cost effective and capable of producing expected known tangible public health benefits our core concern was avoiding an initial program that is only broad administratively complex or legally vulnerable to challenge particularly where the burdens fall disproportionately on rural and western colorado including natural gas dominant basis so would you talk about that 1 000 foot uh setback versus one mile buffer what what is that so that was a key priority again the upstream exemption from additional benz ene controls was preserved and then we what we had asked for was um a 1 000 foot rather than a one mile buffer zone for formaldehyde excuse me applicability determination that was unsuccessful and so they just roped in a lot more of our operations um going a mile out from from the sources mile each direction yes yeah like like a radius around an initial source and so our operators and a lot of our operators and a lot of the industry folks and it wasn't just oil and gas there's other industries as well they felt like the state was just really just cranking down way more than necessary it was not they're going to put controls on them that are going to be very costs very costly but they're likely to have um minimal actual public health benefits because what they're doing is they're regulating to things that aren't tied to the actual receptors human beings being in an area where there might be some emissions that you would want to control because there's humans nearby in places where there isn't anybody or anything around they're still requiring some pretty pretty costly pretty so they have to go out and test for formaldehyde out to a mile out yeah and for mild to hide how what's how you imagine that here where we are a mile out there's there's nothing out there a mile out yeah some cases so so it's i mean where's i mean formaldehyde from what is it upstream upstream exemption now i mean haven't even really had any discussion on formaldehyde so i think i said wrong what they're doing is they're requiring more advanced controls for formaldehyde there is some formaldehyde that involved in oil and gas out there so there is and um don't ask me exactly where it comes from but it is there it's definitely part and parcel of the industry at some level but um it was our ask was if there was if someone within a thousand feet then let's go ahead and put these advanced controls on it but if if somebody's if there's a house or residence or some kind of a park or something that's a mile away the state says yep we're gonna have these more rigid controls even though like in our area with the topography and all that none of what we're talking about here is going to reach those receptors those humans so right so it's just anyway it's it 's pretty so expensive and they're going to do this every year they're going to add more is that is it leaks or what do you have to do to prevent formaldehyde i do not know what the control mechanism is for formaldehyde but it has to do with equipment and money yeah maybe um burning i'm not sure exactly what this is collecting and disposing i guess but we heard from a lot of different industries real concerns with that sort of buffer that they had that didn't seem to be designed to protect the public more than to um make control because you can control no matter no matter the cost no matter whether they have an actual intrinsic benefit by controlling so that's the only experience i ever had with formaldehyde that i think of in school they preserved the frogs and ralohide so you could dissect them it's stuck to high heaven yeah so really my last one is sort of lengthy in here and i hope you've read that but there's a regulation three rulemaking coming up in may and really what that is is it's 99 of that rulemaking is they're going to apply new permit fees so for every pyramid they're going to tack on about another 10 14 million dollars across industry to uh gather up money to pay for state staff 100 people 100 more people yeah those the 100 people they're going to regulate you right so they 're going to have the money so that's what that rulemaking is so i won't go into some detail on that one build the time because that's a done deal that the that one's written in stone what they're going to do they're going to apply those fees and that's going to be it i'm just going to ring your hands but they're going to pass the rules i'd have to say but we'll be there to say please don't yeah um federal resource management plans uh land management plans i don't really have any anything on that today be quiet right now let's go pretty quiet state should take their lead but they're not i think we got on february is sweetwater lake and that's not you in your book that's right yeah that one hasn't been mine so other than that just recommend actions i'm not really asking for uh yeah so they continue the symposium and then if you want me to continue and if you have something that's controversial and you need our our direction go to fred and we'll definitely learn about it the additional direction but we 're pleased with the symposium pleased with the work you're doing they have this coalition still have it be in existence it's a big deal it's a big part of the state 20 was 21 different governments 23 15 counties yeah it's a big deal it's east and eastern flame was western slowly i do hear from the folks in the east every once in a while so they seem to appreciate being at the table and we're helping them get to the table so that's the people that are going to be keeping them aware of what 's going on because they have their smaller counties smaller staff yeah yeah so that's the direction correct anything else you want to add to that nope we're good okay you got direction from us to continue on as as you're doing now and a pat on your back for a good job thank you commissioner i apologize i was going to be briefer than i was so i apologize no it's because we were asking questions thanks kirby all right thank you that let's some rest that concluded your work and the items come from i'll say so we are to the county attorney's update um nothing specific here i believe miss beatty should be back tomorrow if not i'll be here for your work session i think it's a i have a work session we 're going to talk about that so hang on heather and i will be in denver to take the deposition of the plaintiff in one of our court cases on the 20th and then the county attorney's conference is june 4th so county attorneys from around the state will be gathering in snowmass so it's close to home this year it's actually always a good resource and always good to hear what other counties are dealing with and compare notes and things in our shared practice areas so good training there okay fred okay thank you uh what's that calendar yep you got it just a couple updates and then i'll jump through the calendars uh the first one just to remind the board we have now with vola's help set and i think you all know this but just to do it again the humanitarian dinner is set for september 14th i know it's way in the future just want to make sure you knew that 5 30 start at the hotel colorado uh moving on then uh with mr jackson's very timely uh tip here on the work session what we'd like to do is uh we want to push that work session until may 19th from tomorrow we want to cancel tomorrow and push it till uh but it's basically two weeks from today okay great that that way you'll have all three what is the topic there's several ai is one ai is one um there'll be a lot to get the the list for you uh commissioner rental properties yeah there okay uh and that'll be great because then we'll have all three commissioners as you were just saying that's really important on that topic um so still start let's plan for a 9 a.m start on that if we want to if we have more i'll get with the board real quick and see we advance it to 8 a.m but for now just leave it at 9 a.m and then um also want to flag for the board on june 18th it was flagged for me june 18th is the special ribbon cutting celebration honoring the completion of the hanging lake trail reconstruction project for a service and um that is actually at the hanging lake trailhead at 10 a.m if you're interested in attending that that is the first day of the joke conference what date was that it's a thursday june 18th june 18th yeah oh i won't i'll be a joke you'll be jolting uh okay as to calendar uh today i believe um we have our uh wolf coalition call it's a zoom call mr will two o'clock uh that's our regular scheduled meeting uh tomorrow we've checked that off so that'll be canceled no work session tomorrow um tuesday through friday myth may 5th the 8th is i think commissioner will is getting ready to leave and that is for the naco western interstate region conference it's making sure i know you all know that but it's good to check notes um wednesday commissioner jankowski you and i are meeting with uh sarah sims so it's wednesday it's not uh i have a conflict then i thought i had it on for tuesday the fifth it did shift i 'm sorry if that didn't make it i didn't know i won't be able to make it i have a conflict okay well i'll let me visit with you ahead of time and then um yeah we'll meet with them it's uh it's around the human services human service commission yeah yeah and that's basically the mechanics of the human services commission and funding so that was but it's at 3 p.m are you out totally the whole day i'm out from okay i'm from 2 p.m on i'm out okay all right i'll get with you and talk about it okay great apologize for the the miss up on the calendar uh thursday this thursday may 7 th is the uh rowing fork watershed collaboration meeting i've mentioned to the board it's 10 to 3 at the third street center in carbondale that's a joint meeting um the variety of groups monday may 11th who's putting out who's putting that on uh is that the rowing fork wildfire group or is it different it's a consortium of groups so we get that that's right that was it it was yeah rude i rude i oh rude a power and water that's right power water and power association all right that's authority rather i don't think it's an association uh let's see monday may 11th you're back in here for your regular board meeting we will not have commissioner will for that meeting uh we have then do we have a do we have any land use and if we do have land use we need to let the applicant know there's two commissioners so i believe they know i'll confirm that thrith rob while we'll make sure that's the case we flagged that for them before because you raised the same question but we'll do that again to make sure so they understand they have an option knowing they only have two commission ers if it's a vote decision so thanks for helping me um monday may 18th then you're back into this room also as your regular board meeting then then it gets quite busy so wednesday may 20th 26 is the book cliff mount soperson south side landowner appreciation barbecue it's a local working local work group as well that's at veterans park in silt 5 30 to 7 30 and then you have also that same day i have on my calendar uh may 20th is the agnc board and edd meeting in rifle in rifle that's a nine to noon or excuse me nine to 2 p.m is that what you have commissioner yeah okay because i imagine you're going to be there for that okay monday may 25th garfield county offices uh are closed that can be closed in observance of memorial day very important day uh moving to the next day tuesday may 26th is the next elected officials meeting the last one was canceled yeah mr hannah got a pass on your behalf i voted that one in may yeah there's look at the opportunities so needing a commissioner for uh i think it's probably my turn isn't it i think it's okay thank you mr sampson 2 p.m 2 p.m at the sheriff's office thursday uh may 28th 7 30 a.m to 10 o'clock a.m is the gar field county economic development your um semi-annual meeting and i believe uh we're going to have somebody from center of excellence there i don't know if it's been to talk about what's going on it's very appropriate with fire season coming up would you let me reach out to them just to confirm yeah i think bull has said it they confirmed but yeah they did okay all right verify that all right very good that'll be excellent and then uh i have last on my calendar is the monday through wednesday june 1st through the 3rd knowing that june 1st is a board meeting that day uh is the summer cci conference right and that's in dylan and so my question to myself is i know that with the beginning of you typically have your board meeting in the morning then you all take off to go to cci yeah yeah is that still kind of your plan yeah see that works okay so another land use thing right to let them know about that's what we're trying to do so that way the board can cut out and that is all i have i'll go to the the june 15th board meeting we're still going to have c dot in from eight so it'll be a 10 a.m start for the board meeting because we're going to have c dot in so we probably will have going to the event even if it's rolling the agenda we'll go into the afternoon i would imagine so we will probably need to take a lunch break in that on that agenda yes and thank you for saying that the 15th of june so he's out eight to ten right that's right and then the board meeting and i'm glad you mentioned that commissioner because that's when we typically invite the other municipalities to come to so it won't just be there they're they like you as the centerpiece but then because it's so focal everybody can come here and we and we give the municipalities time to right for your comment yeah i probably will invite um along with rob and uh road and bridge director scott marsh but also bentley henderson to that just because the imtpr that would be an action if that's all right and that's i think rob had an update too oh just on the calendar we do have a fair board meeting tomorrow night and that it's in this in this room at 6 30 six getting close six yeah okay make sure yeah all right yep that's great that's it thank you okay we go to commissioner will since he's going to be out okay on the uh starting tomorrow it's going to be yeah you know i do i do want to say uh mike and i made the crawfish boil at the at the airport is it good it was excellent great somebody flew him in yeah it was good i had a big old pot oh my thought you were going to be there i was i was just i was in front of you guys i was there and then i had to cut out to another meeting just i just missed you i 'm looking for you but delicious yeah mike thanks for making the use zone deal for us yeah i'll report on that okay that was good and so i yes i'm i'm heading out and uh be gone i'll be gone the 11th with that board meeting and then i get back and i go straight to the state track meet so you'll be gone the next week then as well no no that's in that week but okay week 11th but the state track meet and then uh i wish i'll be here the back that that's too much to your granddaughter thank you yes good luck to her and so we have uh i'm going to attend on the 20th is that is the uh electrical college graduation so i'm going to try to hit that and then uh run down to the uh book cliff barbecue south side barbecue it's not an electrical college i'm going to try to uh i'm going to try to hit that and then uh i'll try to hit that and i'll try to hit the barbecue you're going to try and be two places at once yeah good luck and then uh i did get an invite uh tom for that uh carmondale pool ribbon cutting or yeah yeah i don't know much about i'm not going to go to it no okay that's on the 21st there's a lot of fundraising for that so yeah and hooray they're going to have a new pool yep and then uh 20 22nd i'll be around except for an evening i have uh um well i'm not sure the time but i have uh my granddaughter's high school graduation is a rifle rifle graduation that's on the 22nd um then on the 27th i have down for the the parachute to aspen regional well-being that they're in words comments from one to four you guys have that at all uh 27th of may who is it it's uh the parachute to aspen that regional well -being that i asked my community foundation yeah okay i have it down anyway so uh then obviously the 28th is a garco development uh then the 29th uh i plan to attend the area agency the area agency on aging at the rifle senior center thank you um then obviously bocc meeting on the 1st of june then head out to the cci summer conference um and then mike as you mentioned the 18th and 19th of jolt uh agnc meeting on the 17th and then the speakers reception the night of the 17th at the hotel maverick for the speakers of the joe conference the 18th and 19th if you knew yeah about that okay i didn't have that speaker yeah so that's at the maverick uh yes from here at 6 pm the agnc meeting is scheduled to be from one to five okay so that's that's pretty much it for the calendar i do have uh i've had two requests for work sessions uh if you guys are interested so the one is the uh ceta and that's for that uh electrical transmission lines um anyway they were they were wanting to come and talk to us about what's going on in garfield county and the surrounding areas as far as transmission lines um specific to garfield county it's raining good out there look at the water on top of that that educational that's great well i think it is that you yeah i prefer if it's educational i don't really know that i want to hear about it that's more more our building staff my building staff but if it's lines lines that are going to be you know if they're going to be new transmission lines in garfield county definitely would like to know about that but you know we just we've gone through public hearings with uh excel on everything they're doing i mean i haven't heard of any i mean if there's transmission lines coming through garfield county that's a plant that's a uh yeah i'm not sure i'm not aware of one um so i don't want to just sit here and have them educated about let me reach out to him and see if it's if it's specific to stuff here in the county than yes yeah otherwise no well i would also say just for the board you can also put them on as a oftentimes like today you'll have a presentation topic um so you have two options you can shepherd them into a work session the challenge with that is those tend to be dedicated policy matters and things like that that's going to move the board versus just take up the time within a work session maybe it's better on a regular agenda as an up as an alternative yeah and that keeps them compressed too right because your time is so valuable and they have to sit through our meeting right so i guess my point is another option another option just best use of our time to run them off okay yes i have one more and this is a this is concerning health insurance and this is cbt or whatever and i i did have a zoom call with them and they were talking about the cost of health care the health insurance and the western slope health plan um this guy's from crested butte i know they've gunnison county's involved with this they were requesting a work session that shows where we can maybe save money on health insurance and uh health costs well that needs to go back to fred and uh in our hr i mean that we that needs to come internally so i think we need to go to fred and obviously uh then yeah i know you know we're gonna we're gonna have a big increase in health insurance from what yes what we're hearing so the thing that that may that kind of sounds like an unsolicited proposal and maybe it can it kind of is yeah right and so we gotta be i'll work with you um yeah we'll figure out what that is okay and the cb cbt clinics or marathon clinics are very important yeah yeah we'll find a spot we'll figure them out and then find a spot for them okay okay mike your calendar well first last uh friday night my grandson peter and i went and attended as a guest of honor for the used on 50 years wow and it was uh that's great it was very well done they had a great light band there the food was excellent they had all kinds of food and all kinds of varieties and a wonderful dinner and everything and uh they were very uh what do i want to say thankful and acknowledge the county and all the help that we have given them throughout the years they had a silent auction they had a live auction a very lively auctioneer it was quite a quite an entertaining deal and i don't know exactly how many how much they made combined but while i was there it was very sizable amount of money was raised right for them and then they did their kiss the pig did you kiss the pig i did not kiss the pig but i have kissed a pig in front of a thousand screaming high school kids before so i know that experience but uh they raised at the last second i think they raised oh i don 't know how much more on top of which they already had and they had oh they had at least 10 pairs or single entries in that which each one brought in a substantial amount of money so use zone really cashed in on the good job fundraising good it was a great fundraiser for them and a good time was had by all good so yeah the federal mineral lease meeting our next meeting will be on the 13th at 9 00 a.m at the offices and i think everything else has been covered a gmc meeting in rifle on the 20th i think we've i think we've covered everything else so yeah same with me you've covered everything to the board meeting on monday i think we had a very productive meeting today thank you everybody we we can be adjourned okay okay thank you Pierre thanks Roy thanks

Okay, we're good. All right, we will call the meeting of the Garfield County Board of Adjustments to order. It's April 27th, 2026. It's 6.31 p.m., and we'll do roll call. Adolfo Borra? Here. Caleb Waller? Here. Chuck Burley? Daniel Adams? John Kirsten? Hugh Gusta? Here. Matthew Lehnhors? Here. Ned Carter? Russell Talbot? Here. Wes Miller? Here. All right, we have quorum. I don't think we need to pick anybody. Right? We're good? We'll move the meeting minutes to the end of the meeting. After item number five. And item number four is election of officers. So it's that time of year, huh? Once a year. It's like we do this every single time because we only have one meeting every single year. I guess we're going to do election of officers. That's number four. Agenda in front of me, so yes. Okay. Yeah, election of officers is number four. Do we? Obviously, I'm chair. I can't remember who's vice chair and who's treasurer. So you've got Russell as your secretary. And you've got, so we have you as vice chair. So the meeting minutes probably from last one should have been making me chair. They haven't been approved yet. So we can't change it. Yep. So we'll have you as chair, Russell as secretary, and then I don't know who took vice chair. I have to look back on the minutes that are getting posted right now. I thought it was Daniel. I think it was Daniel. Was it Daniel? I was kind of thinking it was, but I'm not sure. I just want to make a look at the meeting. That's our recollection as well, that Daniel was the vice chair. Okay. I have to look back at you. Do we have any... Is that yes that Daniel was vice chair? Are you willing to continue? I'm sure we do this so often. The commitment is so intense. That's it. Does he want to be suggesting any motions? Anybody else want to fill a position? I'm happy to keep doing this. It's not that big of a deal. And I'm happy to keep doing this because it's not a big deal for you. Daniel's not here, so I'm sure he's happy to keep doing it. That's right. He'd probably be okay with it. Do you have a motion? Do you have... What is Daniel's last name? Adams. Adams? Yes. So proper motion would be to have Matt Langhorst as chair, Russell Talbot as vice chair, and Daniel Adams? Daniel Adams as vice chair. Daniel Adams as vice chair, and Russell as secretary. Secretary. There we go. So that would be the motion. Do I have a second? Second. Second? Yep. Go. Do we need to do a roll call for this one officially? I believe you can do a voice vote, but we can certainly do a roll call. Let's do a roll call. So there's only a few of us. Okay. Sorry. A lot going on over here. Hold on just a second. Okay. Okay. Who moved it? He moved it. I seconded. I'm sorry. What's that? Adolf. Adolf. Caleb seconded. Luke's keeping us in line. All right. Adolf Aguera? Yes. Caleb Waller? Here. Or yes. I'm sorry. Matt Langhorst? Yes. Russell Talbot? Yes. Wes Miller? Yes. And then we do need one associate, but I think Caleb's the only associate that's here, so. Caleb and Luke. No, I'm sorry. Luke is the only associate that's here, so I'll just call Luke. Yes. Okay. Caleb's the only associate. We do this a lot, as you can see. Sorry. I thought Caleb was an associate also, or a member. I was a member. I thought I was a member, but I was a member of the PNC. As far as I know. That's the five we need. That's the five, yeah. Which bylaws not? That's not a bylaw. What's the associate member? Associates missing, or if a member's missing, then associate would fill in. Yeah. In the voting. Yeah. In the voting. If I remember the bylaws correctly, we only need five of us. Go back. Do we want to just take the meeting minutes and move them to the next meeting? We can get all that buttoned up, or? Yeah, sorry. I didn't realize it was going to be this big of a deal. Yeah. Yeah, we'll get real behind then. It does say, order of justice were approved as submitted. I believe who would be the best person. Motion passed unanimously, but it doesn't say what for. What the motion. Or for who. Are you talking about the meeting minutes? Yeah. So we do have, like I said, we've completed it up, but they're not done. Printed yet. So let's, can we move on to the next item, and then we can come back to the minutes? Sorry, before we leave the minutes, the meeting minutes, also you should probably say who was elected from last year onto what position, so. Okay. We'll, we'll bet that. Okay. I don't know what, why half of this got approved. That's okay. All right. Since we have officers done, we'll move on to public hearing. Tonight we have a public hearing, item number five is public hearing for the review and consideration of a variance request to reduce a setback in the rural zone district from 50 to 29.9. There may be some discussion about that number. For an existing structure, the site is located at 17450 Highway 82, Carbondale, Colorado, filing number VAR, 12-25-9094. Public notice verification, I believe is the first item. Yes. And so the, the applicant was required to mail notice and post notice and publish notice, and they did all, all of those in compliance with the code, so. Perfect. Thank you, Heather. Next item will be swearing in the participants and presenters, I believe. Go ahead. Just the procedural piece since there's six of you tonight, which is great. You need to select an alternate to be a voting member. And according to the list, we have, Caleb, I don't know the details here, but we have Caleb and Luke on the list as alternates, so we can select one of them to be one. The rest of you are all regular members. So four regular members and you need one to step in. Okay. So here's a little, draw from there. There's two names in here. I think it's a pick. There we go. All right. And the poker piece says Luke. There you go. Congratulations. Luke it is. All right, Luke, you'll be voting tonight. Sounds good. Great. Are we good to do swear in? Okay. We will swear in participants, presenters, anybody that wishes to speak about this tonight. I'm going to read this. You're all going to raise your hand and you're going to say I do if you want to talk. Do you swear or affirm under penalty of law that the statement or evidence that you're about to give before this commission shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Thank you. Thank you. All right. So should we enter some exhibits? Yes, Mr. Chairman. I'd like to enter into exhibits one through ten including an applicant presentation. Yep. Okay. So exhibits one through ten. All right. We'll accept the exhibits into the record. And we'll move on to staff presentation. Unless you have anything else. No, sir. We'll go into the presentation. Thank you so much. This is where I just have to remember. Oh, Tao, can you make me a presenter? Yeah, I sent it again. Oh, you did? I can send it again. Yeah, I must have missed it. I apologize. I'll send it again. I'll send it again. I'll send it again. I'll send it again. Thank you. Thank you, guys. I'll send it again. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thank you, guys. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Yeah, so tonight we are here for a variance. I apologize. My presentation will be available for you in just a moment. Okay, there it goes. All right. This is technically a front yard variance on a through lot that sits between Highway 82 and the Highway 82 Access Road . Okay. Okay. And there we go. And I apologize. I just have one more click to do. And all right. Okay. All right. Tonight we're here for the Baldrige variance. The applicant is Diana Baldrige and Noah Baldrige, represented by Matt Farrar of Western Slopes Consulting. It's located at 17450 Highway 82. It is in the Rural Zone District, and the Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use map designates this area's residential low. The property is about 7.789 acres in size. This little image here, we'll see some better images further on. But you can see it sits north of the Highway 82 Access Road and south of Highway 82 itself. Here's a vicinity map. Here's a vicinity map. You can see the town of Carbondale to the west here, and highlighted in orange and blue. To the east is the subject property itself. It's about five and a half miles from the town. Here's an aerial, the subject parcel itself. This image is from about 2025. The subject parcel has been used for storage uses since the mid-90s. This use was codified in 2025 by the BOCC, the Limited Impact Land Use Change Permit. There's an ongoing minor subdivision application that is pending on this property as well. Both of these applications have that this setback issue needs to be remedied, either through a variance or by the structure being moved or removed, so it's no longer encroaching in that setback. As you can see, the space has been used for storage of RVs, similar vehicles, boats, trailers, and things of that nature. It also has a residence on it. The structure and subject is identified as a barn garage, and it is that large structure right here. The applicant has been working through the conditions of approval from the Board of County Commissioners Resolution 2025-48 for that limited impact storage use as well, and they've been making due diligence on the conditions of approval, including the one related to that setback. A little information here from our Land Use and Development Code regarding through lots and setbacks. Section 3-202 of our Land Use and Development Code kind of lays out the different types of lots, so corner lots. Item B in that subsection is through lots. This is when a lot extends from one street to another paralleling street, and both streets in that situation are considered front yards for the purposes of determining the setbacks. Due to the nature of Highway 82, it triggers our 50-foot arterial setback, and so the setback along what you would think of as the rear lot line because this property is accessed from the access road, Highway 82 access road. So as you're entering the property, that setback is 25 feet, but the property line that abuts to the Highway 82 right-of -way has a 50-foot setback from that property line, and so that's the property line that we're discussing a variance for tonight. This application was referred to various referral agencies as well as noticed publicly no comments, no significant comments. These three of my referral agencies said no issues, no comments on it, and no public comments have been received to date on this application itself. This is the site plan from the application. I've just kind of exerted the area and tried to do a little bit of highlighting here in PowerPoint. We have a lot of fancy technology for me to do some of this stuff here. I've provided a little bit of an outline around that identified garage barn structure, and as you can see, this dash blue line here, that's the 50-foot setback line. The application provided measurements for where the structure sits in relation to that property line and was measuring that the building itself was 20.1 feet within that 50-foot setback. You overheard me speaking to the applicant just a minute ago. That didn't include the overhang of the barn structure itself, which is about another approximately one foot. Though our code typically allows for those kinds of over hangs into setbacks, staff is going to change our recommendation and the approval to account for that additional foot. So we'll be saying that this structure is extending 21.1 feet into the setback and recommend that that front yard setback be reduced to 28 .9 feet from the property line. And I've included that a little bit in the final slides there, and we'll run those numbers by you again to try to minimize the confusion for changing that at the last minute for you. And I appreciate Matt pointing that out to me. This is just the review criteria for variance. Variance is basically asked that there are special circumstances or conditions, that the nonconformity is not a result of the actions of the applicant themselves, that strict application of the code would have undue consequences on the applicant. The variance is necessary for relief. It's not detrimental for the public good, and the variance will not impair the county's zoning. This structure was permitted in 1994. I apologize. Yep, there. Okay. Sorry, I have to go back to the last slide where my notes were on the building permit itself. So in 1994, this building was permitted through community development. I checked the zoning ordinances that were in place at that time, and they were essentially the same regarding the setbacks and through lots as the current LUDC is. And the building permit at that time didn't address set backs. There was an area on the permit itself for setbacks to be put in, and that was left blank. I checked with other variance records. At that time, if a variance was granted, sometimes that was noted on a building permit in handwriting, which is not maybe the best way of keeping records for things like this. But I checked all this stuff as we were working through those other permits. I know Matt has looked at this also. And basically, we couldn't find any verification that the setback at that time was determined to be less than 50 feet , which was what was in land use and development code. And so since we reviewed this application itself and didn't note that, that is weighing in on staff's determination that it meets those review criteria on the next slide. So the history of the property, the fact that the geography of this lot, even if you are within that 50-foot setback, there's still additional space in the right-of-way between the road edge and the property line, more than 50 feet is there. So this, you know, being an extra 21 feet into that rear yard setback is not going to create a public safety issue along Highway 82. There's also a berm in that area to kind of prevent lesser either visual impacts or lower the risk of a runaway vehicle being able to leave the roadway and strike the structure itself. There's no known utilities utilizing this area, which is another reason why we might have setbacks in place , is to allow for different types of utilities to know that they're going to be able to have something there and someone's not going to drill or put a foundation on top of a shared electrical line or something else like that. So these are all the factors that staff use in my staff report, going through this different review criteria, determining that this request meets these review criteria itself. If the variance is granted, it will not reduce the setback for any future structures or buildings, along this lot line. The variance will be specific to this existing structure itself. So it's not going to allow the owners to build more buildings that are at that same setback area. They will have to meet that 50-foot setback for future structures on the lot. Staff does recommend approval of this variance. I have some sample language here for a possible motion, and I have my findings and conditions of approval on the following pages. In this situation, I'm basically using the conditions of approval section to provide what exactly the variance is that's going forward. Those aren't conditions that the applicant needs to meet to obtain the final variance from staff, like it would be for most land use change permits. Instead, those are just going to be conditions of approval, saying applicant needs to maintain these for this to remain in place, essentially. So staff recommends that that setback be reduced to 28.9 feet to allow for a 21.1-foot encroachment within that front yard setback along the Highway 82 boundary with the subject parcel itself. These are the findings. These were in my staff report and have not changed. And then my recommended conditions of approval, which I did modify condition of approval number two here to reflect those changed numbers. So if you do want to utilize those numbers and recommend approval, you can just say conditions of approval as presented. And that concludes my presentation. Thank you. All right. Questions to staff? What were the setbacks back in the day when this was built, was there? It was the same. It was the same. So 50 feet on arterial roads, through lots are considered front yards on both sides, 25 feet on collectors. So there's been no changes to our setbacks, our definitions of through lots or anything else that I've been able to asc ertain. Has the road gotten bigger? I mean, it hasn't been a four-lane through there, obviously . I haven't been there that long. It appears that when this building permit was being reviewed, that they did not catch that it was encroaching in the setback. Were they interpreted as a 25 foot? Were they interpreted as a 25 foot and they didn't document that, which we may sure we will always be doing in the future. You mentioned that this is a variance specific for this structure. Yes. What happens if the applicant comes in the future and wants to modify the structure or improve upon that structure? Does that carry you? So basically, they can modify the structure as long as they 're staying outside of that 50 foot setback. I haven't actually had to deal with someone trying to change anything that is within a reduced setback for a variance. But typically, you can modify that structure as long as you 're not increasing the encroachment on a setback or some other type of nonconformity. So it won't impact them with that. They'd be able to do repairs or maintenance or, you know, things like that to the area that is within that encro achment. So if they pulled a permit on this in the future, as long as they're not further encroaching, this issue would come back up? Correct. Would that include, and I don't think an applicant would do it, but like moving one corner of that building to the same distance, would that be allowed? Or are we only allowing a variance for the portion of the building that is closest for that one corner? We're only allowing the variance for the portion that is already in existence. So yes, they wouldn't be allowed to shift and have additional square footage at that new reduced setback. Okay. Is there any wording that needs to be done in that if a motion were made? So condition of approval number three, this variance shall not be construed to allow additional encroachments into the setbacks. I think covers that. Okay. Can I ask what triggered the variance request in the first place? So the minor subdivision application, when we were reviewing that, we made a determination that the storage use was a commercial use that wasn't permitted and that this structure was in the setback. So we paused that minor subdivision review to allow the owner and the applicant to make a good faith effort to come into conformance with the code. And so it's the review of that additional land use change permit or that subdivision request that triggers the need for this variance. Basically, they can't move forward with those other things with this non-conformance existing. I just didn't think you were running around with the measuring tape around Garfield County trying to figure out. Plenty of time. We have plenty of other things to do than walk off setbacks . I got you. Any other questions? Thank you, Paul. All right. Thank you. We will move to the applicant's presentation. Thank you. We do have a brief presentation. If you guys want to come up, you're welcome, too. Keep it under two hours. Two hours. I'll do my best. And I'm assuming I can plug right in here. I don't want to screw anything up. Taya. I think Taya's going to help you. Yeah. Just the HMI. Yeah. That's what it paid. Okay. Good evening. My name is Matt Ferrer with Western Slope Consulting, and I am here representing the Baldrige's. Diane and Noah Baldrige are here with me this evening. And I will try and keep this presentation quick. Staff has already addressed a lot of the items in this presentation. So the request is to allow an existing barn to encroach 21. 1 feet into the 50-foot setback required from the northern property boundary. The reason we're asking for an additional foot. The reason we're asking for an additional foot. So the survey that was done by Sopras Engineering indicated that the furthest part of the barn that encroaches into the setback is plus or minus 20.1 feet. So the additional foot that we're requesting accommodates the roof overhangs on the barn. And assuming there might be some minor errors in the accuracy of the survey kind of gives a little bit of wiggle room there. The barn was constructed in 1994. There is a county approved building permit application, building permit and plan set for the barn. All those items were included in the application. The barn's location is non-compliant with the county's land use and development code. And because it's non-compliant, essentially it's a violation of the setbacks, the Baldrige's really are not able to do much else with their property until this issue is resolved. And so that's why we're in front of you this evening. This is an image of the site plan that was included in the application, just trying to highlight where the existing barn is, where the 50-foot setback is, and identifying the portion of the barn that encroaches into that required setback. This is an image of the plan set that was approved by the county for the barn back in the early 1990s. Just using the scale on the plan, the corner of the barn that kind of goes furthest into the setback is roughly 25 feet. I mean, it's a little hard to get that too accurate with a scale, but that's ballpark of how far that goes into the setback. And the reason we provided this is to demonstrate that the barn was more or less built in the location that was presented on the plans that the county reviewed and approved. So there was no intentional action by the Baldrige's to get a certain location of the barn approved and then move it during construction. These are a couple images of the barn. The upper two images are an aerial view of the barn, and then the lower images are a view of the barn. The lower left-hand corner is a view of the barn from the Highway 82 frontage road, and then lower right-hand corner is a view of the barn from Highway 82. And as staff noted, there is a berm that was constructed along Highway 82 to kind of provide a bit of a buffer. And so much of the barn you can't see from the highway. In terms of compliance with the variance standards, I'll try and make this quick. In terms of standard one, the barn has been located on the property for over 30 years at this point. The surveyed location of the barn demonstrates, from our perspective, that the Baldrige's did construct the barn in accordance with the plans approved by the county. There's no record that during the plan review or during the construction process that the county identified any concerns with the barn's location. We couldn't find any record of any sort of violation notice or stop work order, things of that nature, stating that there were issues with the location of the barn. And from our perspective, the location of the barn is a long-established, county-approved condition that constitutes an extraordinary and exceptional condition on the property. In terms of standard two, the Baldrige's constructed the barn in good faith reliance on the building permit and plan set approved by the county, as well as on the inspections that the county conducted during construction. There's no evidence that the Baldrige's intentionally located the barn in the required setback to circumvent or ignore the county's zoning regulations. And for that reason, we believe that the special circumstances and conditions on the property did not result from any act of the applicant, and it arises from Garfield County's approval of the barn's location. Standard three, as I noted previously, the barn's location is noncompliant with the county's required setbacks and constitutes a violation on the property. Until it's resolved, the Baldrige's or a future property owner are really inhibited from doing much on the property in accordance with the property rights afforded by the county's rural zone district. The options, other than a variance for resolving the violation, include moving the barn to comply with the 50- foot setback, modifying or remodeling the barn to comply with the setback , or just removing the barn from the property. And given those options for resolving the encroachment of the barn into the setback, we believe that will result in a peculiar and exceptional practical difficulty, too, as well as an exceptional end-to-undue hardship on the Bald rige's because it requires relocating, reconstructing, or demol ishing a fully functioning, permitted, and county-inspected barn. Standard number four, it's not possible to move or renovate the barn without placing a substantial financial burden on the Baldrige's. Moving a structure of that size costs a fair amount of money to do. In addition, relocating the barn puts the structure at potential risk for damage. Therefore, it's our opinion that granting the variance is the only practical means to legalize the barn's location while preserving its functionality and structural integrity . Standard five, there's no evidence that the location of the barn has resulted in any adverse effects on the public good, which include the health, safety, and welfare of the public, neighboring properties, public infrastructure, including Highway 82, or the character of this part of the county. Given the duration of the barn's existence and lack of adverse effects, we believe that granting the variance allows the barn to remain in its existing location will not cause substantial detriment to the public good. And then the last standard, standard number six, we believe that granting the variance to allow the barn to remain in its existing location does not undermine nor will it substantially impair the intent and purpose of Garfield County's land use code, specifically the intent and purpose of the rural zone district. The requested variance applies to an existing permitted structure and will not result in any change of character, nor will it result in an increase or intensification of development on the property. Approving the variance upholds regulatory fairness while maintaining the overall integrity of the county zoning standards. I also just wanted to note, and I believe this came up during the staff presentation, that if this property were not considered a through lot and a 25-foot rear yard setback, which would typically be applied in the rural zone district , the location of the barn would comply with that 25-foot rear yard setback because the barn is roughly 29.9 feet from the northern property line. So that's all I have. Noah or Dan, do you guys have anything? Nope. So happy to answer any questions that you may have. All right. Questions for the applicant? In one of your plats up there, you showed the barn and you showed a septic adjacent to it. Is that septic currently as shown on the plat? Yeah. So that's the plan set that was submitted to the county for the barn. It's my understanding that that's the septic system that serves the barn, and it's approximately in that location. I think that's kind of a general area of where the septic system is. So question for staff. The septic appears that it's also in that setback. Does that need to be addressed as well? Does that need to be addressed as well? Septic systems can be located within setbacks. So it's not a conflict. Thank you. I was trying to think if there's any above ground structures there. Good question. Other questions? Just out of curiosity, what are you guys intending to do with your minor site plan application or your other subdiv ision applications? So the minor subdivision, the intent of that is to subdiv ide the property into three different lots. And I'll go back one slide. This doesn't really show it that well, but lot one of the proposed subdivision would be where the barn is, where all the existing development is, and then lot two and three are to the east. Yeah. And so those would be intended for single-family homes in the future. And you have a 50-foot shelf, so that's good. Yep. Getting ahead. That's right. Dolphin, you're taking lots of notes there. Yeah. Oh, no. Sorry, Caleb. No, no. I was just going to make a comment. I said I grew up in the south where there's a lot of barns like this, and you start seeing them kind of disappear. It's kind of sad, you know? So it's like here in Garfield County, we kind of don't want to see a nice barn be, you know, it's kind of a landmark here, you know? It's like having the history kind of affected here. It's like as we grow in population, it's tough to see some of the farming rural character of the county disappear, right? So I think this is pretty straightforward. I don't see anything crazy here with these guys. I don't even have any further questions either. Nothing else? I have a question for staff. Just out of curiosity, why wouldn't this fall under a pres criptive easement? Typically, we don't do easements in that kind of situation. Most of the prescriptive easements in the county I'm familiar with are county roads, actually, or something like that, that is more of a use between, well, in that situation, the public at large and private property owners. So the easement would typically be acknowledging a historic use between a different party. And so since there's no other party involved in this, again , and that would also be a civil matter, but this really is just falling more into our setback and encroachment realm than it is in, like, an easement or a shared use kind of realm. That makes sense. Thanks for explaining that. Yeah. Question? So this is more of an error on the county in 94 missing than anything? I'm not going to throw previous county people under the bus . I'm not naming any names. I don't even know what their names were. So, but, I mean, essentially there was something missed during plan review on the setback. However involved their setback or their plan review was in 94, which I can tell you was far less intrusive than it is now. Either that or it just wasn't documented what the setback was being considered at that time. So. I want to go with that piece of paper was lost and we're just trying to find it now and keeping the piece of paper. There you go. That's right. We'll have a much, much easier to find piece of paper moving forward. If they get to go through it again, they don't know. So it's just great. If the adjustment is granted, is there any issue if the highway were to expand in the future? So CDOT was a referral agency on this and they did not have any objections to this. Theoretically, if the highway was to expand enough that they started condemning land, then it could be an issue. But our variance wouldn't have any bearing. I don't think our variance would have any bearing in that situation. My question is more to Heather, I guess. Yeah. Would that cause problems down the road if the highway were to? Well, at that time, CDOT, I think like Phillip was saying, would have to M and then they would just go through that process and they'd have to pay fair market value for whatever that was. Okay. The applicant's presentation said there was, what, 68 feet or something from the edge of the right-of-way to the edge of asphalt, which is five more lanes. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. The other part to that, and I apologize if I'm stepping in here, but when you get into Eagle County, I think their set backs might be different. So, I mean, if you're expanding the whole Highway 82 corridor, you're going to be dealing with potentially buildings that are closer than this to the highway corridor . CDOT would have to go property by property and acquire. Yeah. And the easement isn't intended to provide for expansion of Highway 82. It's intended to provide for utilities, other sort of utilization of that property in the future development. Setback. Just setback. Setback. Any other questions to the applicant? All right. This is a public meeting, so I guess at this point we'll open it up to the public. Anybody would like to speak on this topic? Nobody online? Nobody out there? Nobody hiding underneath? Do I need to do a motion to bring it back? Okay, just bring it back. I can never remember the public. Yeah, no, you just close the public hearing. Okay. Since there was no public hearing, nobody online, we'll just close the public hearing and move it back to the Board of Adjustments. Thank you, Mr. President. For final discussions, questions to staff, if you have any more. Prior to that, you already can make a motion if you feel comfortable with the motion. Comments? Sorry to go back to this, and I'm just trying to say, and I understand that if the highway were to expand, there would be a number of properties that would come up with that the State Highway Department would have to go look at. We're currently looking at one, though, that does encroach. I just want to make sure that we're not causing future boards, administrators, anybody, issues down the road that ... So the State Highway Department could still condemn it regardless by the property. That's whether it's got the variance or not. Will not affect any of that. That's correct. Okay. Thank you. This is our fourth one since I've been out here long, Highway 82. Just an amateur question for the staff. Where's that 50-foot setback mark? Where's that measurement from? So this one comes from the property line. The way our code reads, it'd either be the edge of pavement or your property line, whichever is greater. That's the 50-foot, so edge of pavement or property line. Whichever is greater. So in this situation, it's the property line. That's because so many of our county roads are on prescript ive easements, so they wouldn't be within right-of-way. They would actually be on the fee service owned by the property owner. So in that situation, we would measure a sack from that edge of pavement as opposed to the property line, which could be in the middle of the county road, on the other county road, you know, anywhere else like that. Question for applicant. The fence that was shown in there, is that basically on the property line? I hope so, yeah. Okay. I'm sorry, are you talking about the fence that was on top of the berms? Yeah, the one that was on the berms. Yeah, the one on the top of the berms. It was pretty much where the property line was. Okay. It's a seed-out fence, right? And that's a seed-out fence. Yeah. Hopefully they didn't put it on. Discussions? Discussions? I don't see any issues. I think we proceed with a motion. You want to take a shot at one? I move to approve the Baldrige front yard setback along Highway 82 with the conditions and findings as presented and authorize the chairman to sign the resolution of approval. Set. Sorry, who's that? West. You said presented? I missed that. Yes. Okay. Yeah. With the conditions and findings as presented. Have we got a second? Yes. We'll do, yep. We're going to do a voice or a roll call? It's going to be a roll call. Okay. And then did you happen to choose a chip? Yeah, Luke. Luke? Yes. Okay. Adolfo Gora? Yes. Luke Gostas? Yes. Matt Langhorst? Yes. Michael Talbot? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. What do they need for votes? Four? All right. Motion passes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That would have been a rough one, guys. That would have been tough. All right. Can everybody take four minutes to read the new meeting? Minutes from July 28th? Thank you. Yeah, sorry. No problem. Four minutes. Okay, four minutes. You got five. Seven, seven, 20. You just hearing the exact same content? 25 to 50 foot? There's a lot of Highway 82 ones. Are there? Setbacks, yeah. Yeah. The building height one was fascinating. Yeah. Building height one was fun, though, because that was like, we knew they did it on purpose. That was the issue. You're like, that was not right. I'll do it again, though. I'll do it again, yeah. There's only one strike with the county. Then after that, you're done. And in the second piece, it does say front yard setback as well, so that will just be changed to building height areas. Thank you for that. Cool. Thank you. Anybody need any more time? Okay. After reading those and having the building height variance changed in the last sentence of section number seven, so not to read front yard setback, it's a building height variance on that section. Do I have any motions to approve the July 28, 2025 meeting minutes? And who was here? Let's see, Adolfo was here, Caleb was here, I was here, and Russell were here. So it would be limited to those four for motions and voting . Motion to approve. Second? Second. So Caleb motioned, Adolfo seconded. All in favor? Aye. Aye. All opposed? Best. So easy. All right. Other business. Who do you got? Anything? I don't think we have anything else for you guys tonight. Level of activity in the office. Level of activity in the office is busy, but do we have any other variance pending? I don't think we have any other variance that's pending right now or other BOA action items at this point. No additional variances, no additional interpretations. But give you guys a little break. See you all next year. I'm sure we'll have something coming across our desks. Yep. Yeah. All right. Cool. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it. I have a question, actually. Sorry. I'm going to keep you here for 30 more seconds. Kelly keeps threatening to bring the bylaws back. I know. Do we want to, next time we do this, nine to 12 months, do we want to put that on the agenda and send it out to everybody and have them read them? Because there were a couple things that I had noted on it three years ago when we started. Does Kelly have a copy of what you've made notes of? I don't remember. It's been so long. But if you have suggestions, if you wouldn't mind sending those to us again, then certainly we can take a look at those because I would love to update the bylaws and we can get that done. It might be good to resend those out to everybody. Yeah. Just send an email, blast out the bylaws, request a review. Is it state guidelines that if you have five members here that you have to have, like, the super majority to pass it? Or is that just because of our bylaws, not just a majority? Those are our bylaws? It's in the land use code itself. And I don't know if that is a state statute thing or... I have to look at that. I'm going to throw it off the top of my head. Okay. We can deal with it later. It's been, like, years. Yeah. You're not wrong. So. All right. Well, if there's no other business, I will move to adjourn at 720. Sweet. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Notifications of that land use code.

We are now in session. We're on the air, so we'll get everybody to calm down a little bit. Thank you for being here, and I guess we do need to go through roll call again, although this is the second meeting of the day, so please take us through roll call. Absolutely. Commissioner Weill? Present. Chairman Jankofsky? Present. Commissioner Samson? Here. And then I'm going to ask you all to join us in the Pledge of Allegiance. Pledge of Allegiance to the flag, not in case of America, but through the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. If you could remain standing, just join me in a moment of silence in your own way. Thank you so much. Okay, this is a work session, and it's on Garfield County evacuation planning. I'm going to turn it over to our county manager, Fred Jar man, here quickly, and then I'll go to Chris Bornholt. But I just want to say this is Chris is our emergency manager under the sheriff, and this discussion today will be on evacuation planning. It's not a land use discussion. And so if you start going into land use, I will gavel you and ask you to get back on track. And everybody that wants to talk will get a chance to talk. But for the county commissioners, this is a listening session, and we're happy to have Chris here. But I'm going to first turn it over to Fred Jarman, our county manager. Great, thank you. Thanks, commissioners. And thank you, Commander Bornholt, for being here. Just a couple of thoughts as we begin this work session. Tom already covered the structure. So Chris is going to present to the board on various topics around emergency planning, evacuation, jurisdiction, the things that Commander Bornh olt does through the eyes of the emergency manager role, really at the behest of the county sheriff. And thanks for being here, Sheriff Valerio. So expect a really good information delivered today in Q&A. Just to remind the board that the county is, of course, continually poised to help with emergency disaster preparedness and response. We do that a number of ways. Of course, Commander Bornholt's role is one of the critical ways we do that. And then also continual training, and particularly in the world of incident command systems. And we have, we continue, at least as the management team and the board, to train constantly on how to be prepared, how to respond, and then how to work alongside as a parallel action to put ourselves back together, if the need may be, you know, for those incidents. And so with that, Chris is going to lead us through a course next week with his ICS 300. Then we'll follow, that's a two-day course, and then we'll follow up that with another ICS 400 series course. These are both two-day courses that are quite involved and continue to help the county be quite prepared in the event of disasters as they face us. So I think Chris's presentation today is really timely. And I wanted to acknowledge Siri Olson, who was here earlier as a citizen, who actually asked the board for this sometime late last fall. And so it took a while for us to get to this point, but we are prepared to do that. So I think maybe Siri may be here. And so I'm looking forward to the presentation and then also the Q&A and discussion afterwards. So that's it. So welcome, Chris. So, Chris, you have the table. All right, thank you. Or the floor, whichever you want. So just kind of we've been doing things a little different here the last couple years. And we had a fire, the Lee fire last year that we were involved with, and then again the Derby fire as well. Both of them were outside of our county, partly in, partly out on both of them, but we were very involved with both fires. And we kind of came up with some new kind of strategy that we kind of wanted. We like it a lot better. I had an older ranching family that was having some concerns about the pre-evac and evac during the Lee fire. And we had just learned about this ready, set, go template that we're going to go to. And I explained it to her, and she just, it just like it clicked. You could just see that she really understood it. It made more sense to her because it kind of, the way it does it, it lines it out better for you of how to do it. You're not in pre-evac and then you've got to get out. You've got a little bit of a warning piece ahead of that. Now, depending on what the incident is doing, right, that could change quickly. But as far as what she understood, she was 98 years old, didn't understand. After about a five-minute conversation with her, she completely understood what it was, what her color was she was in, what she needed to do next, all of those things. So just having that conversation with her really made me realize that maybe this is something we need because it does make a lot more sense. And if I could, you know, get people like that to understand it really easy, then it felt like to me that it's something we should go to . And I've kind of got some, we're going to talk about that more here in the PowerPoint for sure. First thing I want to talk about is our emergency operations plan. Our plan we have now is actually 2015. We were getting ready to redo it. We had COVID. During COVID, we decided to have, the FEMA decided to go ahead and have a change in their template. So I was getting ready to do that. We had a couple summers of a lot of fires. I mean, everybody in Garfield County knows we get a lot more fires usually than other counties in the state. And we've been really busy, so we hadn't got it. Well, again, last year I had a template. I was almost done. Actually, part of my staff had been working on the draft for the new one, and then they came out with another update. So we're in that process. I've got a rough draft out now to all the directors, and the police and fire chiefs have it currently as well. And actually, I think I sent it out to the towns and cities as well to kind of look at it, to give me kind of an idea of where we're at so far with it if we need to make any changes. We've had a lot of people give me some input, got some stuff changed. I've got a few things I still need to work on. But then we got that wildfire resiliency code came out. We've been dealing with that. And then this here with the evacuation stuff too. So we're going to get that. I'm hoping to get that in front of you before fire season so you guys can review that again, and then we can go ahead and get the new emergency operations plan updated and on our website. We're long overdue for that, but we're trying to get that done. We talked about all that. So another thing I want to talk about is just kind of the authority. And these two slides I'm going to read to you just so you kind of have the information. In Colorado, evacuation authority is a primary held by law enforcement agencies, including sheriffs. There are key points regarding the authority and the emergency management evacuations, and there's four pieces to that. So local authority, each political subdivision, including counties, has the authority to establish and maintain emergency management agencies to coordinate disaster preparedness and response. The sheriff's role in Garfield County, the sheriff responsible for issuing evacuation orders and coordinating with local fire districts to ensure evac uations are completed safely. The Emergency Management Office, the Office of Emergency Management, coordinates disaster management, provides resources to protect lives during, or sorry, and property during emergencies. 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So those those spaces that we might use could change from incident to incident, just depending on what's going on with that agency that we're using their their facility, whether it's a school district, our own facilities or a private entity that we're using their their their area or their space for something. So just just keep that in mind that it could change from one fire to the next. So one thing that's that I kind of wanted to kind of touch on this slide. This is just more of the what to do to evacuate. If you look at the slide before it's just the before an evacuation kind of thinking about it, a go bag having your your medicine that you might need any any special equipment you need anything like that that you have that you're making sure you get that. And something that I this came up at another meeting I added it to here was having gas in your car. If you've got to evacuate just if you know something's in the area and you're you're concerned that there might be an evacuation, you might want to stop and put a little fuel in your car before you go home that night. So you have to leave during that time you have gas in your car. Once an emergency happens, get into the gas pump, you know, getting away from the gas pump, getting fuel could be a problem. So we just want you to kind of start thinking about it ahead of time if you are going to have to maybe evacuate during an evacuation. Another thing with that is the, you know, a battery powered radio. I think it's KMTS, right? KMTS is the radio station around and they'll they usually have that stuff on there pretty regular. But if you don't if the power's out and your radio at home doesn't work, you're not going to get that information. So having a battery powered radio or even one of those ones that winds up is something good to be thinking about in your emergency kit so that you can you can make sure you can get the information that's there. We'll talk about the way we send stuff out here a little bit later. Another thing to that is we get a lot of times we get an emergency or something happens and the family that don't live here that your family that doesn't live here is calling dispatch calling the sheriff's office calling the fire departments trying to get information about you. So one thing we like to see is if you're if you are leaving and you have the time right if you don't have the time that 's a different story. But if you have the time to let your family members know that you are evacuating where you're going well they can contact you those kinds of things. So that we don't have that extra traffic on the 911 system at our at the jurisdictions that are involved with that. That just kind of helps out a lot. Also when you leave your home you know secure your home so we don't have to worry about people getting in there. If you do have people that come and check on you or do whatever leaving a note on the door or load on a note on your counter refrigerator telling them that you had to evacuate you're gone right where you went those kinds of things to again kind of lessen the amount of calls that we get through the 911 system. Again this is more if time allows unplug your electrical equipment. And you're going to want to do something with your refrigerator. A lot of refrigerators get ruined not because the power was out and it didn't come back on but because food got left in there and the food rotted and ruined your refrigerator or freezer. So if you have time try try to think about some of that stuff of how you can do that to kind of help if you can take some of that with you or maybe just throw the stuff away as you're leaving kind of thing to kind of prevent you from having to buy a refrigerator when you get back as well depending on how long that that time is that you're out of there. Check with your neighbors if you need a ride if you know that you need a ride to go somewhere or your cars in the shop getting oil change or you're getting tires or broke down on your whatever. Check in with your neighbors and then vice versa the neighbors check in with you to if they see your car is gone or something like that to try to help out. The more of that that can happen the better we'll be able to respond to the incident itself and not have to respond to the emergencies that are happening with the evacuation piece of that. We're the evacuation routes. It's kind of it's up to you to know the ways in and out of your neighborhoods. If you're in a neighbor having to be living in neighborhood that only has one way in and one way out and that's blocked your exit route might be you might have to walk or you might have to use a back road or you might have to do something a little different than you would before. But just follow the follow what we're what we're what we're telling you to do. Nine times out of 10 we're going to have a deputy come to the door and knock on it and give you those directions. But in a fast moving incident where maybe we don't have enough time to do that because we don't have enough people on at that time to be able to do it right away. Just we want you to kind of have some of this in mind because you came in and out of your neighborhood every time that could be blocked for some reason the fire could be burning across it whatever you may have to find another way out of your neighborhood. That's not the normal route that you use. So just kind of think about that as well. Other hazards that we want to talk about is wash out of roads if we're having a flooding event or whatever. Just make sure you're kind of paying attention if the roads washed out don't drive close to the washed out area because you could fall in that hole if it's undermined pretty good underneath there and then your way to your car on top of it or the way that you walk in could could make that cave in on you. Down power lines we don't we don't want to drive over anything that's down across the road. Even if you think it's just a cable line don't drive over it because if you do it's it's going to cause a lot more problems than you need so kind of be aware of your surroundings of what's going on. I know we're in a hurry to try to get out of an area or trying to to not be part of the incident itself. But if you do some of these things you could be and then we have to try to deal with that as well as we're as we're trying to deal with everything else that's going on. This this document will be posted on the county website after today so you'll be able to go on there and look at this more and and to kind of talk over it with your family. This one goes into after the evacuation part of it and kind of getting back in there. And so we're keeping people out before keeping you out we 're keeping everybody else out of there as well. The only people that will be in those neighborhoods are the people that are supposed to be there that are dealing with the incident itself whether it's firefighters or or law enforcement or whatever it could be right depending on what our incidents are. You just want to think about your house that refrigerator that you didn't take the food out of right when you get back. I'm you're going to want to check that right away. I'm going to want to get rid of that food and depending on where you live putting that food in your dumpster is probably not a good idea because then you're going to maybe attract some bears or other things to your to your property that you don't necessarily want on there. So just kind of thinking about those. We're not going to let you back in if there's down power lines across the road or whatever. We will take care of that before they're there. But again, if something like that is there, you want to think about that. And then just kind of an overall safety check of your house when you get back to make sure that something happened during that incident itself. You're aware of it before you do turn power back on or do whatever you're going to do at that time. Or if the power is off and you want to start up a generator , right, we just need to make sure that the house is safe before we move forward with that. How we get emergency information out. This is this is how we do it every time. It just depends on the incident, how big it is, whether we use the iPods piece of that. But I'm just going to kind of go over them. The county website is probably the best way to get that information. We have a PIO group in the county. All the agencies that have PIOs are part of that group. And all that information gets funneled to that group. Ronell is our PIO with the county and she will get that information on the website as soon as she gets it. So there's a there's an emergency paid part of that page and everything that's an emergency goes to the top of that when it happens. And the most up to date information will be on the top of that. If you scroll down, you know ways that information is there , but it could be old information. So always make sure you scroll to the top when you're looking at that. Another thing we can do. We have three different ways of contacting folks that there 's an emergency or something's going on, whether it's a shelter in place or an evacuation. We can have IPAWS, which is an integrated public alert system, and that system will hit anybody that has a cell phone that's within the area of that cell tower. We can designate an area that we can put on there and it'll hit that area. We do get bleed over. So pay attention to that. Last year on Lee fire, it was bleeding over into parachute and bottom of Mesa. So be aware that that could happen just because of where the tower is and where it's reaching. But that's probably our best way to alert folks because it doesn't matter if you live here or not. It will ping your cell phone. And whether your phone's even active or not, it will turn it on. Everbridge is what we use through dispatch. That's our 911 system. And that is a paging alert system that you can sign up for. If you have signed up for that, make sure that you're going in and updating your information. Or if you know of people that have moved out of the area, that they take it off their list or update their information on there as well. But it can go out to you have to be subscribed to it to get the information. But a lot of folks are and the information will come out that way. We can also do reverse 911, but the reverse 911 only hits landlines. So if you don't have a landline anymore, you will not get that piece of it. All landlines that are registered will get that information . But like I said, it does not go back to cell phones at all. And if you don't have a landline anymore, you will not get that. Most of the departments within the county have a social media page. A lot of them are using Facebook. I know like the fire departments, the law enforcement, us, and dispatch all use Facebook. Information will come out quickly on those social media pages for sure. But make sure you're looking at one of the social media pages. Either your local fire district, your police department if they're involved, the sheriff's office, dispatch itself. Look at the actual pages that have the authority to send those messages out so we don't get false information from some other source that would be on there. We do use some other social media things for different things, but our main thing we use is Facebook. This is just kind of remind people, I kind of talked about this before, but we evacuate people a lot during a year. It might be a small evacuation. It might be a large evacuation. It might be in a hurry. It might be set up to where it's staggered of how that's going to go. We never, usually never evacuate a whole area, you know, like a large area at one time. It's going to be staggered through that area so we can get people in and out. But we do it a lot. We've never had any injuries or fatalities due to our evacuation planning or how we do things. And a lot of times it's door to door from law enforcement agencies that are helping us do that. This is the new evacuation kind of setup that we're going to go to and we're kind of looking at. And I've got, I have some maps and I'm going to kind of show you what we did on the leaf fire. So you can kind of understand why we, why we did it and where we're doing it. I'll go over this really quick. Ready is green. And that just means there's a possible evacuation in your area. Be ready to go, have your stuff all ready, get that go bag ready. You know, you start thinking about having fuel in your car, the food in your refrigerator, right? All of those things we want to start thinking about. Set is going to kind of be your caution area and it's yellow. And that's just a short term notice that you're going to do an evacuation. And if you need a little extra time, if you want to leave then and during set, that's great. You can leave during that time. You can leave during the ready if you want. The, the more people leave early, the easier that stuff is going to be if we have to do something in a hurry. So any cooperation with that is greatly appreciated. The go section is evacuate immediately. Leave now. Danger is in your area. And when it's to that area, that section, we're not going to let you back in. Once you leave, you're out and we, we can keep you from going back in at that time. This is kind of, this is the leaf fire. You can see the red on there is the actual fire perimeter. I don't remember what date this was. This was towards the end of the fire. Garfield County is that lower section there. So you can see on there throughout the whole fire, you have some yellow areas. You have some green areas and you have some red on there. So as the fire progressed south towards Garfield County, we , all those areas in the, that are red on this one were all yellow. The yellow was green. The green was blue and the blue wasn't on the map. We hadn't even talked about that yet. So as it moved, as the fire moves south, you can see that we set up the zones. Now the numbering for the zones is going to change a little bit. I'll go over that here in a sec, but you can see that Gar field County area, there we had some red, we had some yellow, we had some green, and then you can kind of see the location of the fire and what was going on there and our concerns. During a fire every day, we are having an evacuation meeting in the morning talking about what the fire did the day before, what the weather's doing today, what we think the fire might do today. All of those considerations are in there. And that's where this comes from. The what's what can be viewed by the public is the red, the yellow and the green. The blue was what we were planning in the back. In the background, we had these other areas set up. So if that fire decided it was going to do something different, we already had the zones built and we were ready to get those out. And that's why I wanted to show this map is that we're doing this in the background. These blue areas were our contingency if the fire decided to get into Garfield County and really get up on that Mesa and move. We had this already set up so that we could just pull the trigger change the colors. We knew the zone numbers. We knew all of that stuff already ahead of time. One thing I want to talk about with the colors, the colors seem to get confusing a little bit with folks. So I have a really easy, simple way to think about it. If you're going into an intersection, an intersection that has a light. So we're going to do two streets coming in, cross streets coming in. We have an intersection in the middle. We have lights on there. If the light is green, you can go through the intersection, right? Everything's clear. You don't have to really think about too much other than maybe a pedestrian squirting out in front of you or something. But normally the intersection is good to go. We can move through it. We can do whatever. If it's yellow, we need to use caution, right? The red light's coming. We're thinking about that. It's the same with an evacuation. The evacuation is probably coming and we need to really think about what's going to happen. If the light's red, we don't enter the intersection because there's danger other cars coming across the other way. So if you think about it that way, I know it's flipped upside down and it's greens on top, red's on the bottom, but just think of it as an intersection. If you can enter this intersection, you can go home. If you can't, you can't go back. So it's kind of just an easy way to try to think about this a little bit as we move forward with it. I'm going to switch over to weather a little bit. We've had some concerns about having like a Marshall fire over here, and I'm going to explain why we can't have that here. This is a wind shear that happened and knocked down a bunch of trees. This is up, you know, 10,000, 11,000 feet. It happened in Garfield County where the winds can be sustained and be able to do stuff like that. But this is really kind of the worst of wind events that we 're going to get in the county. We can have some different things, and I'll kind of explain that here in a little bit. But this is the major, major piece that we get. We have had, I think, two tornadoes in history, but they've all been up at elevation, nothing in the bottom. They come down, messed up a couple trees, and moved on. All this information that I'm showing you now I got from the weather service just here last week or week before I spent about four hours with them so they could explain all this to me. This is our, this is Storm King Mountain. This is the wind speeds, sustained wind, not gusts. This is sustained wind that we've had up there. We've only had four times where the wind was over 30 miles an hour up on Storm King Mountain, where the site is. It came out of the northwest, and that was clear back to 2010. We've actually, we actually looked at the weather clear back to like 1889 or something like that, and I think the highest sustained winds we'd ever had was like 32.8 miles an hour. And I'm going to explain why that is and why we can't have those bigger winds here later. But you can see on this graph, 28% of the time on Storm King Mountain, it's calm. The wind's not blowing. A lot of the time, it's that zero to 10 miles an hour that the wind is blowing. We do have those days where we have the storms come in and some of that, and I think that's where some of these numbers are going. And again, I'll talk about that again here in a minute. This is the Rifle Airport, Ross Station. It's a little bit above the airport. You can see at the Rifle Airport, we've never had sustained winds over 30 miles an hour since 2010. And at the airport at that one, it's calm 70% of the time. And again, I think that's what is associated with that is it's nighttime. So half our day is dark, right? So it's at night. And then in the morning, it's usually pretty calm. So I think that's why that's showing the way they did. But this was all the way through March. So December 7th of 2010 to March 23rd when I was at the Weather Service having that conversation. We're going to talk about the downslope winds a little bit. And if you think about this, where we live is on the left side of this, the mountains where the arrow is, and the front range is on the right side of that. And I'm going to kind of explain this a little more, but we 'll kind of go to the next slide here. Yeah, this one. Okay. So if you're looking at the map on the left, it's the mountains where we're at. You can see the higher the color is, the higher the speed of the wind is by the color on the graph on the right. If you look over on the left side of the map on the bottom, it's got the mountains. You can see down in those mountains how that wind comes over a crest. It tries to go down in there, but then it's got to go back up right away. So you're getting some turbulence in there. And you can even see above the Rockies, the mountains and everything above, even the wind speeds up there. We're getting into the 28-mile-an-hour sustained wind kind of possibilities. But you can see down in the valleys where we live, the wind speed is a lot lower. And it's because of that turbulence and what's going on there. Now, the air on the mountains is cooler than the air that's on the Front Range. When that air comes over the mountains and drops over the mountains on the edge of the Front Range, like on the edge of Denver, the edge of Colorado Springs, those mountains are 8,000 feet above the floor of the actual, of where Colorado Springs and Denver is. So you have that cold air coming over the top. What does cold air want to do when it gets in warm air? It wants to sink to the bottom. When it sinks to the bottom, it expands. It's got 8,000 feet to pick up that speed. It's gaining speed because the cold air is trying to go to the bottom and push through. But as it's hitting the warmer air, it's getting warmer. It's expanding. The wind speed is getting warmer. So that gives you that time for that speed to come in on those winds to get those 100-140-mile-an-hour sustained winds. But that is why they get those, those strong winds over there. We don't have anywhere that that can happen to where we can get those winds. We do get a little bit stronger winds down in the valleys, especially going east to west. So coming from Junction to Glenwood, we can get some really good winds in there. It can come over the mountain and kind of go up 32 a little bit or Highway 82 a little bit. But it's not, we're not going to get this kind of wind over there because we just don't have the topography and the ability for that wind to get those speeds. A lot of times, even on the, partially on the Marshall Fire , that wind was starting in Pueblo and blowing all the way up. So it was gaining speed as it was getting closer and closer to Denver. It was just that perfect storm of the air coming over the mountain, the air coming up the, up the western slope and hitting that area all at once. And we got those sustained winds that lasted for a really long time. I'm not saying that we're not going to get wind gusts that are 60 miles an hour because we have a thunderstorm set up over somewhere. We get those, but they're short duration. And they don't last a really, really long time like the winds that we've seen over on the front range and pushing some of the fires. That fire they just had in Nebraska, that was a perfect example of that. That wind was coming out of the northwest pushing across flat land. It was grass. It was all dried out. It just, it was wind driven. And that again is in the flat areas to where that, that can happen and we can move that fire that, that intense that quickly. Like I said, I'm not saying we're not going to have that here. I can say we're not going to have a hundred mile an hour sustained winds. We're probably not going to have 50 mile an hour sustained winds, right? It's just not going to happen. But if we have a storm cloud that was to set up on a ridge and we had something going already, say a wildfire going already, those winds of that storm are going to affect what that's doing. But again, it's a short duration. It's not going to be five, six hours straight, right? It's going to be 20 minutes to a couple hours, maybe tops if that happens. And that's why here too, we see a fire go one direction for 20 minutes and then 20 minutes later, it's going the other direction, right? Because that, that storm cloud is moved over. The wind is going to come off of the storm cloud. The clouds here, it comes off all directions of that storm cloud. As that storm moves past an event, the winds might be one direction. As it passes, they're going to switch and go the other way because it's all coming out of that storm itself. Any questions on that weather piece? That was kind of a lot of information. The wind shear, can you just say what is a wind shear? So wind shear is just the wind at elevation. It's basically two storms, either a high pressure storm and a low pressure storm or a cold or a hot coming together. And where they come together, the wind speeds will pick up. And at elevation where there's nothing there to determine or to block the trees, you can see in this picture, there's really nothing there to deter the wind and it just blows the trees over. Okay. It's just a real quick short burst of air when those two storms come together. It's a lot like what happens with a tornado. A tornado just has time because it's flat land. It has a lot of time to build and it becomes a circular motion instead of a straight motion like these are. And these can be in any direction. It depends on where those storms or those cells come together. Thank you. And it doesn't happen very often, but we did have a couple that happened either last year or year before. And that is a photo of this. One thing I did want to talk about with the mapping. Now that Andrea is here, we were looking at right now, we 've actually started a project of doing these evacuation zones throughout the entire county. So the whole county will be plotted out with evacuation zones. They will be numbered the way that the fire districts and the police departments are numbered now. So for an example, we're in Glenwood. Glenwood is the seven numbers. So 70, 700, 7,000, whatever that is. All the numbers within that, within this zone will be numbered the same so that we'll know. Makes it easier for dispatch, makes it easier for the first responders. Everybody knows that the fire department is a seven, seven number. The piece, the PD is a seven number and all the evacuation zones will be, we'll start with a seven as well. As you move to Newcastle, it'll be 600 and on down all the way down, down Valley will be numbered the same way. Andrea and I have been talking about setting these up. These are the ones we use for the leaf fire. So they're already in there. Andrea has been expanding on that. We're working on getting the whole county set up to where we can have the whole county will be mapped. The whole county will be zoned. You will have access to it on the county website. So you'll be able to go and look, hopefully type in your address. It'll bring up the zone you're in. And that way you'll know exactly what zone you're in. You hear it. You'll know what your zone is already. It'll be a lot like the fire district map, stuff like that. I'll let you kind of expand on that if you need to. Great summary, Chris. Am I good? So that will really help our citizens. They'll know their zone before an event. And you know, you're always in zone 74. And you know, you're always in zone 74. And you know, you're always in zone 74. And you know, you're always in zone 74. And you know, you're always in zone 74. And you know, you're always in zone 74. And you know, you're always in zone 74. And you know, you're always in zone 74. And you know, you're always in zone 74. And you know, you're always in zone 74. And you know, you're always in zone 74. And you know, you're always in zone 74. 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But I remember during the basalt fire, we notified a bunch of people for pre evac and within an hour we were evac uating them. So the ready set go is a great. It's a great program and it's simple to understand. One of the things I wanted to mention, and I think Chris really brought it up is we have tons of resources. We've got all kinds of resources on the emergency management web page and things about evacuation, how to prepare, what to do, medicines, small animals, large animals, reunification if you're separated from your family . And all of that's out there for everybody. Mostly I hear when it comes to evacuations is why don't we establish evacuation routes, signs, you know, evacuate this way. And that might work great if you live in Florida where all you have to worry about is hurricanes or tidal, you know, tidal surges or tidal because all arrows point inland, right? That's pretty easy. But where we're at in the terrain where we are, take for example, four mile. If you have a fire on four mile and it's in the upper part, well then people should know being aware of their surroundings, they would want to come downhill. If we have a lower fire, then obviously they're going to have to go uphill. If we were to establish evacuation zones and put a sign up that say, in case of fire, go, you know, downhill and push somebody into an emergency, into a fire, into a mudslide, a rock slide, even a flash flood. I mean, you know, the rivers here, we don't have too many problems with that. But if you think back to the issue with the kids camp a couple of years ago in Texas, that river rose, what, 47 feet in about 25 minutes? So those things are all possible. So it's not, in my opinion, in our opinion, it doesn't make sense to really have, you know, posted go this way because we may be pushing somebody into an emergency rather than evacuating from it. So it gets down to really the responsibility that people live in the Wild West is be aware of your surroundings, understand your egresses, know what to do, be prepared for evacuations. Like Chris said, it happens all the time. I've personally been evacuated three times because of wild land fires from my home. So we really want to be prepared. And we want people to really kind of be self-awareness. The government can't be there to kind of help everybody through everything, but we want to be self-awareness. The only other thing I would talk about, as Chris had mentioned, where deputies will go to knock on doors to make sure people are evacuating. And we do that. Rarely do we not have the manpower to do that. We'll mark the address either on a mailbox or something to designate that we've been there, contacted people so we don 't waste time doing it again. But it's a pretty thorough system that we have. But it's, you know, it's manpower and it's door to door. Every now and then we're going to run into somebody that refuses to evacuate. And all I will tell you about that is by law I could forci bly evacuate somebody, but we don't have time. Because if I have to spend time arresting you because you don't want to go, that means I can't knock on Tom's door and Mike's door and Fred's door. So it really is just sort of a cooperative thing where when we get to the point where we're telling people to evacuate, they need to evacuate. We don't want to have to go back and deal with some tragedy or something else. So they just need to kind of listen to what's going on between emergency management, the fire departments, law enforcement, and really follow the directions. It's extremely inconvenient. People want to get home as soon as they can once they evacuate. We'll let them in once we think it is safe, which is another point of evacuation is once you do leave and you are in the evacuation area, we will not let you back in until we deem it safe. So, again, all we would ask for is the public's cooperation , to be self-aware, reach out to those resources about how to prepare and what to do, have those plans in place. Again, unification if your kids are in school and you have to evacuate or whatever. And we'll continue with our track record of never having anybody injured or killed in the process of evacuation, regardless. Again, you know, we predominantly have wildfires, but you all know we have rock slides and mud slides and everything else, probably even an occasional avalanche somewhere in the area. But we just really want to reach out to the public and let them know that they need to be self-aware and they need to be on top of what's going on. And the other thing I will tell you is anytime we have an emergency, whether it's a car crash, whether it's a fire, whether it's something else, I refer to it as organized chaos because it looks very chaotic to people. But honestly, we know what we're doing. We know how to respond. We know where the resources are. We know who to call. We know how to do our emergency operations plan and which things we need to trigger to make things happen. It would almost be like in the event of a school shooting. Very chaotic, very hectic and all that. But yet we train extensively on those type of events so we know what we're doing. So I refer to it as organized chaos. But honestly, if you look deeper, you will see that we do know what we're doing and I think we do a pretty good job of it. And that's a credit to Chris and his team, to the law enforcement agencies and to the fire departments. They do an awesome job. So that's all I would have to say. Thanks for having me. Thank you. Fire departments are in the room. Do you guys want to come up and say anything? What? Give you the floor if you'd like to. We've got two fire departments here, all right? You know, so we've sacked in Colorado River Fire Rescue. We cover rifle, silt, and Newcastle and the surrounding area. And this has been, I mean, we've been having conversations on this and this is a good process. That Chris has drawn up and then something that we all support. And that's why we're here on this, you know, is to make sure that we support that. And we're supporting our communities in everything that we do. And I just want the commissioners to know that. Okay. Thanks, Lynn. Any questions? Any questions? Glenwood Fire, you guys have anything you want to cover? Hi. I'm Rob Goodland, Carbondale Rural Fire Protection. We're here in the National Fire Protection District. And we kind of have it a little strange because we participate with three counties in our fire district. And each county does it a bit different and stuff. And working with Chris, I think he set a good foundation here and hopefully we can roll out something that really works. And in Carbondale for years, we worked at evacuation planning and creating zones and all that. So we've done it for a long time and feel like we have a good grasp of the sizes and what works in that area of Gar field County. And I've talked with Chris about that and I owe him some polygons. And I'm working on it. It's the number that I'm trying to get right before I send it. And so I hope that it's a little different than this, but I 'm sure we can work that out and have it so it works well for us. You know, Pickett and Gunnison and Eagle do it a little different. They have that Genesis evacuation program. But it's still all pods and it's still all zones and messages. So, you know, I have great faith in all of our organizations when the bad things happen around here. We've had a lot of them. I've been around since the 80s, even as a volunteer. And so been on a lot of virtually all of them together. A lot of them with you, Lou. And it's true. We all do come together and it can always be better. But I'm confident we're as prepared as we can be for 2026. So, Dave Reynolds, Town Administrator, Newcastle. I just want to thank Chris and his team and Orrin Moon back here. I know a couple of years ago our PIO, Rochelle, worked with the team to put together a Newcastle emergency evacuation plan. And what are we going to do within the little town? And to the sheriff's point, people like to hear where are the signs? Which way am I going to go? Can we practice? And I think to the sheriff's point, what we learned is, no, if the fire's over here, you're going to go this way. But putting that in writing and figuring that out and have it in plan was difficult to do. And through Chris's help and Orrin's help with Rochelle, they were able to do that. So, we're comfortable that we've got a good plan in place. We're thrilled that we've been able to work so closely with Chris over the years. And we appreciate the partnership right down to the ICS classes that get taught through the county that we're able to go through and learn the different steps and who's going to be involved at what level. It's all been incredibly helpful. So, for us to be able to address our residents, especially in a year like this where we've got drought and it's, you know, there's two things on people's mind right now. And it's wildfire and water. But we're able to address it legitimately to say that we've thought about it. We've worked with the county emergency management team and do have a plan in place. And hopefully we never have to use it. But we do appreciate the county's support in that. Thank you. Aaron, do you want to say anything? Mayor Pro Tem. Yeah, I mean, I'm the only one here from Glenwood. But we have a pretty robust and pretty detailed evacuation plan that's on the city website that goes into quite a bit of detail on, you know, a lot of what was already covered. And I'm assuming that, you know, there was a lot of collaboration with the county. You know, you can see a little bit with the traffic management when we have incidents in the canyon how that collaboration works up and down, you know, holding traffic down a rifle to keep it from clogging up the roadways. So we've had some, like, test runs to kind of vet it. And so, you know, I think we feel pretty confident that we 're in a good spot. And I think that it's great to have that available to the public. A lot of what's on ours is redacted, which is a little confusing, but it does come down into that, you know, not having more information out there than is helpful. So, you know, I appreciate, you know, just knowing that we have something to show because, as has already been said, like, that's what's in the front of everybody's minds is the concerns for wildfire, the concerns of traffic and getting stuck. We have some really scary things that have happened in other parts of our country that I think have made people a little bit fearful. And so, you know, I just commend everybody for, you know, recognizing that and being proactive as possible. Okay. Thank you. Jim, do you want to -- you're good? I apologize. Can you state your name? Erin Zielinski. Oh, we heard it. Sorry. Thank you. Yep. Erin Zielinski, City of Columbus Springs. Okay. Do you have any comments? I'm just glad we're having this meeting and everybody's getting educated. We three commissioners are getting educated and that's good . And we give your full support to those that work on these things. May we never have to use them, but the chances are we probably will have to use them. So, you know, forearmed and foreprepared is good. You bet. Okay, Fred, I'm going to go back to you before I open it up to the public. And then, Chris, you can close it out after the public if you want. Yeah. Thank you, Commissioner. And thank you, Commander Bornholt and everyone who's spoken . I think it's, like I said before, quite timely where we can make sure that the right resources are all in the same -- growing in the same direction as we sort of peer into 2026, knowing what we know. So I just wanted to say thank you. And I know there are other folks maybe who want to talk to each other. Yeah. Thanks. Okay. I'll open up for public comments. Siri, do you have -- do you want to come up? Do you have something to say? Are you good? Sure. No. Okay. I'd like to give other people a lot of -- I'm open for public comments. You can -- please come forward. Jim. Maybe you can hear me. No, you have to come up here. So we have you recorded. I would wear a fiend shirt in that case. You're a rancher. You're a rancher. You're a rancher. You're a rancher. You're a rancher. So -- I'm Jim Campbell. You're a rancher. You're a rancher. So -- Renwood County resident outside of the city. Who is in charge? Who would say we are going to initiate an evacuation plan? Who's in charge of command and control? That's the sheriff in unincorporated Garfield County. Okay. And -- And you'll have -- maybe correct me, Lou, but I believe it 's -- it would then be the PD and the fire departments. And -- but the sheriff has the overall authority. So Lou would say it's -- we have an -- We have an emergency. It's time to -- We're working with Chris. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Let me explain real quick. Yeah. So we have an -- we have an emergency. We're just going to use wildfire because that's what we get mostly. We have a wildfire. That fire district is in charge of that fire when it first starts. It is under their -- And I'm sure you're going to be able to get a fire. And I'm sure you're going to be able to get a fire. And I'm sure you're going to be able to get a fire. And I'm sure you're going to be able to get a fire. And I'm sure you're going to be able to get a fire. And I'm sure you're going to be able to get a fire. And I'm sure you're going to be able to get a fire because that's what we get mostly. We have a wildfire. That fire district is in charge of that fire when it first starts. It is under their -- it's under their authority and their control, all of that, until they deem that it's above their capability. Then they're going to sign that over to the sheriff's office. That's when then we would take it over. So if a fire was a new start -- had started and they were going to do an evacuation, that authority that would make that determination on that evacuation would be that fire district. They're going to determine that we need to do that evacuation. Okay. So as the fire gets bigger and it becomes -- then it becomes the county's responsibility. Now it's our responsibility. Then it might even go to the state's responsibility. But even if it goes to the state's responsibility, I am still in the loop of what's going on. And the sheriff's office is still making those decisions for Garfield County along with the fire districts. They have a voice with that as well. We talked to them. So the authority comes from -- as soon as the fire district signs it over to us, we take it over. The state might take it over. But we never lose control of what we're doing locally. By we. Is that you, Lou, or who? It just depends who it is, right? Because I have -- so it's myself. I have two sergeants that work for me under the authority of the sheriff. So it could be the under-sheriff, the sheriff. It could be myself. It could be Chad or it could be Levy. It would be the ones -- or even it could be a patrol if something was happening. Sure. Sure. Supervisor. These sound like wonderful plans, but there are other agencies involved, Forest Service, BLM, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. How are they coordinated with this plan? So they're tied into that as well. We do an operating plan every year for wildfire. And it's actually -- it's signed between the state of Colorado, it's DFPC, Division of Fire Prevention and Control, BLM, Bureau of Land Management, the Forest Service , and the Sheriff's Office signed the agreement that we're all going to work together. The only difference is the BLM and the Forest Service don't have homes to evacuate. Right. So for them, an evacuation is they just close their land. Right? So they don't really have that piece of it, but a lot of times those people that are from BLM and the Forest Service are on these incident management teams in these positions, so we are talking to them. Okay. But it's the county sheriff's responsibility to make sure that the evacuations are happening and that the right evac uations are happening during an event -- by the information that we get from. Okay. So that goes down and then comes down to the local level. Correct. Should there be Forest Service land that is involved? Now we're talking -- instead of evacuations, we're talking about the fire itself. The management of the fire itself. Yeah, the management of the fire itself. Okay. Okay. But if the Forest Service says this is going to blow up, they get a hold of you or Lou or -- If there's a fire in Garfield County -- You're going to be on top of that. Somebody within the sheriff's office in emergency operations is going to be on top of that. Good. Yes, no matter where it's at. Okay. So, a thing that I'm not quite sure of -- who has legal jurisdiction during one of the evacuations. Is it the local police department, the sheriff's department ? The authority is law enforcement. Mm-hmm. So if it's outside of a municipality, it would be the sheriff's office that has the authority to do that and to enforce, make people leave, do all that. The fire districts have the ability to call for an evacuation and do that as a safety piece, but the authority is lined with the sheriff's office. Okay. Good. Or a municipality if it's in within a town or city. So, the city of Glenwood, their police department would be coordinating with sheriff's department, Garfield County Sheriff, with you, with everyone. So, there is a tree of responsibility. Correct. That we could follow. Right. If it's within, say, the fires within the city of Glenwood, the city of Glenwood law enforcement would have the authority for evacuations. They would probably call for mutual aid from the county or surrounding jurisdictions that would come in to assist them . Correct. Good. This sounds like a great plan. And it sounds like a lot of effort and a lot of -- a lot of experience is going into this. So, I'll be delighted to look at this. Yeah. And now, after today, that forum that I had on there that talks about the evacuations and the ready, set, go, all that information will be going on the website here. Good. Good. We just want to do the presentation before we put it on the website. Good. One very minor thing, that is almost impossible to see from the audience with the light coming in on it. Oh, okay. Sorry, guys. Yeah, we didn't turn down the lights. We're not going to turn the lights off. We apologize. We didn't turn the lights down. We talked about it, too. We didn't do it. Sorry. Dang. And the way I describe, we do it like that every time. Okay. So, it depends on whose jurisdiction it is and all that. We figure that out and then we kind of go from there. Great. We're all helping each other. And there are dry runs to go through all this? We do it enough that we don't really need the dry run because we do it for real so many times that -- Okay. -- yeah, we're good at it because we do it a lot. Well, we want you to be good at it. Yeah. Thank you very much. Yeah, you're welcome. Yeah. And I guess I didn't -- I didn't really define -- this is about evacuations. It's not necessarily about fighting the fire itself. Right. So -- Okay. Do you want to come up? I'm sorry. You need to come up to -- you need -- oh, your question was answered? Okay. Thank you. Anybody else from the public that would like to comment? Siri, would you like to come forward? All right. How are you? Yeah, I'm good. How are you? Uh, Siri Olson. So, thank you for holding this as a follow-up to the request in November. Appreciate it. All right. All right. All right. Yeah, I'm good. How are you? All right. I think that's a high level of concern in the public at the moment, especially this year. So, it's timely that you're getting to this point and moving this forward. And thanks for all the hard work on it. Yeah. So, I still have a few kind of open questions. Did anyone from CDOT come today? I think they were invited. I don't know if they're here. I've had conversations with them, but... Okay. I guess, to me, that's still kind of a big missing piece in the communication puzzle. I mean, when he was here in November and essentially told us that he wasn't really aware of the various plans, Glen wood and yours, I mean, I kind of feel like CDOT is a pretty big player in this whole thing, especially if we are using 82 or 70. So, I guess I'm wondering how do we maybe improve involvement and communication with CDOT so they know everything. They're aware of the town plans. I mean, the command and control thing is a very important question. You know, you have an entity that controls the state highways. And so, you've got that issue of the sheriff wants to do something on 82. How does that... How do we work with CDOT for those sorts of things? So... Lou, do you want to answer that question? Do you want to answer that question about CDOT, how you... And I can also add to this, there are members on Zoom who do have CDOT by their names. Okay. So, if we have any hands up. They may not be here in person. And I've talked with CDOT. They were invited, certainly. And we've had conversations with them. We've done a bunch of planning when we had a bunch of rock slides, the Grizzly Creek fire. We had planning meetings. It was about every week, every other week. Because we had to keep diverting traffic. So, we were... Everybody was involved in the... Okay. Detour routes, all of that stuff was involved with it. So, they're very, very much players in this. And they understand what we're doing, why we're doing it. That's why I put them on the slide. And even State Patrol being very willing to help and to work with us. We've never had issues with that in the past. And in fact, I would say our relationships, every time we get a big incident, in the canyon especially, our relationships get a lot better because we spend a lot of time with them. Myself, the Glenwood fire, we actually have keys to their building. So, we can get in their building to meet in a... Like, I'd say a command post. So that we can sit down and talk about these issues if we have something going. We just... A text message comes out, we all have keys. We just go there, go in the building, go to the training room, and we work with them very closely. Okay. So, that happens a lot. Okay. Well, that's encouraging to hear. It was just sort of disconcerting in November, you know, hearing that they didn't sound like they were really in the loop. So, hopefully, that's something everybody's working on. And also, at that meeting, Mark had talked about, you know, things like how they might be able to expand the amount of traffic that can move onto the on-ramps on 70, and what they would need to do to help with that. So, I just want to make sure that they're really woven into this at every step of the way, because I think they're a key player. And then, you mentioned earlier, you have some areas that you evacuate every year. So, bearing in mind your constraint that we're not supposed to talk about land use planning, but I guess the one question I have there is, how are we viewing those areas as far as are we limiting new growth in an area? You know, this is like the New Orleans question, right? Why do we keep rebuilding an area that is a problem? So, is there a concept there that we're thinking about with our overall arching, not a specific development, but just our overarching concern on some of our development? I think you're talking about more than unincorporated Gar field County. You're talking about the entire county, including the municipalities, and that's, you know, that falls to the local jurisdictions. Like a comprehensive plan kind of question? Well, I think that's kind of what it is. I mean, if you're saying there's areas that are having to be evacuated on an annual basis, then I would question the wisdom of continuing to approve building in those areas, or certainly to approve new building in those areas, you know, just again from a 30,000-foot view, just raising the question. I guess I didn't say it quite right. We do a lot of evacuations. Are we evacuating the same area every year? No. Okay. It's the same general, I mean, it seems to be down valley, right? So the rifle parachute area is where we get a lot of those, but is it the same neighborhood every time? No. We had a fire, the housetop fire, and then this year we had cottonwood fire, and they were on each side of that ridge. So there was a couple homes that were in that same vicinity . But as far as evacuating the same neighborhood every time, that's not the case. It's just spread out all over the county. Because after an area burns, it doesn't burn again for a few years. Yeah, we get a little bit of relief there, so we don't-- The fuel is gone. Yeah. Getting back to the command and control thing also, if we have a situation, let's--because it's where I live, south of town, I'm trying to get out, let's say, and 82 is--maybe the fighter's coming across 82, and you can't even use 82. And what's the authority and what's the chain of command for commandeering other routes? Okay, so let's say, for example, you're in West Bank, Mesa, and you need to get out of there. Can the sheriff commandeer the road through Prem Ranch and get people down that way? These kinds of things that aren't open to the public, like is that--can we all just assume that you have the authority to do that kind of thing? Yeah, and I would like Chris to expand on that, but the Prem Ranch specifically, although it's gated on the four- mile side, it's an evacuation type of thing that you can, you know, break open and go out there, and we've had that in place for years of agreements, so-- And we've used it. Yeah. We've used it in the past, too, so--yeah, if there's areas that we know that we can get people out, or even it's a two -track, we're--we've been working--the fire districts have been working really hard on trying to get the homeowners' approval for us to do that, to evacuate out the back of the district. Or out of their subdivision. Maybe it's on someone's private property, or we can put everybody in a big field or whatever. So the fire districts have been working with homeowners or homeowners' associations to be able to do that, because you never know, right, where that fire's gonna come from, where it's gonna go, and if we have one way in, one way out, we need to be thinking about those other pieces. And the fire department's been really good at doing that with them and working with them to try to help us with those. Yeah, if there's a road that's available--oil and gas, last year, an example, that was a leaf fire as well. They opened up 215. We could come off the top from the north and drop down into parachute. They opened that up for us. They opened the gate. Like, they were letting us do whatever we needed to do. We were getting firefighters in that direction so they didn 't have to drive up the rough road. They could drive up the nice road, get to where they needed to go. So a lot of times when something like this happens, we just --just people come out of the--hey, we got a road that does that, or we have this available, or like the oil and gas did, we'll open our road for you guys and use it. We had a base camp down on 215 and they ran up that way every day instead of going all the way around. So that always comes out really well in the end. And I think the ranchers are very good at helping us with that too and moving livestock. They just kind of come out of the way. I think it was important. It's called public safety, and it's a dire situation like you're talking about. We'll do what we have to do to make sure the public's safe and we'll ask for forgiveness later or come back and fix and repair whatever we did. So again, it's public safety first. Okay. Yep. Okay. There was another question raised in November, and I guess I'm not sure how we get back to that issue. And that was how do we figure out, is there a way to figure out at some point in time, what is the safe carrying capacity of Highway 82? You know, we have had a dramatic growth in this valley. And one of the things that's always caused me a little bit of concern is a development will come up, and it's always viewed kind of in isolation. You know, what happens for this development triggering numbers, this sort of thing. Whereas I feel that it's critical that we start having a more holistic view of our transportation infrastructure in terms of lots of things going on. And like right now, we've got a lot of pending legislation at the state level that just wants to take away local jurisdictional control on what you're going to build and where you're going to build and how you're going to build and all of this. And I'm concerned about that because I feel like particularly in an area like ours where we have geographic constraints that are very different from the front range. And I feel like losing that planning ability on a local level is a bit concerning to me because we just really can 't do anything more with 82 from what I'm understanding from the CDOT representative. The chances of that being expanded are slim to none. So we have, you know, it's the proverbial putting 10 pounds of potatoes in a five pound bag. Finally, it seems like somebody needs to have the final word on what a road can finally take. I mean, maybe not even from just an evacuation standpoint, just a general usage standpoint, but certainly the evacuation is, I think, high on people's mind right now when you sit in traffic on Highway 82 at certain times a day in particular. I mean, just even watching the rock scaling at 133 and how that forced all the traffic onto 100 and 109 and those all became backed up and very problematic. You know, we just don't have a lot of alternate routes. So I guess I'd still like to get back to that question with CDOT or with somebody because at some point in time, I feel like we finally just can't handle that. I mean, I just can't handle anymore. Well, you're into land use. I know I am. And you're into land use. But the land use impacts the roads and that's, you know. You can't just talk to this group because it's land use throughout the county. I understand that. Yeah. Building in Glenwood, it's a number of jobs in Aspen, building in Carbondale, all the way down to Parachute. And those -- I mean, you were concerned about 1,500 units. Those 1,500 units have already been built in the municipalities. Oh, I'm aware of that. And I understand. And I am going to gavel myself. Well, and I would just say that, you know, to your question , Siri, you know, is there a carrying capacity to a specific road? Right. That would be -- if it's CDOT's road, that's a CDOT question, I think. Right. And to get back to your point, you know, can they answer that question? I don't know. I'd look at the county manager because CDOT will come and they're going to give the board a presentation about transportation in general in the county. Maybe that's a good time to ask them that question. Well, and as Mark explained it to me, though, they won't just do a study like that of their own volition. It has to be requested by a local jurisdiction. And I think he reinforced that at our meeting in November. So I guess the question I have is who is finally going to stand up and take responsibility for asking that question? Because I think the population would like an answer to that question. I don't know. Show of hands, anybody along with me that is concerned about that? Okay. Maybe Aspen could build 10,000 more units so we didn't have 11,000 people a day driving into -- and that's not snowmast , or -- that's driving into a lot of -- -- and that's driving into Aspen. 11,000 people a day driving into Aspen. And that's where the issue starts. Mm-hmm. But that was kind of an underlying issue of what we were talking about in November. So I just really would like to make sure that doesn't get lost in the shuffle of all the good work that you're doing as far as the plan you have. But that was one of the big asks in November. So I want to re-raise it because I don't think the issue is going away. So thank you for having the work session and following up on it, and I hope we can continue to do that. And I don't know. I guess I'll keep bugging CDOT. But I feel like somebody needs to be asking the big 30,000- foot question, and everybody sort of has their own little territorial piece that they're looking at. But somebody needs to be looking at the whole picture. And I mean from roads, from medical, from all sorts of levels. And I think especially as we get more and more mandates from the state, this is going to become even more critical from our -- I'm sure Will can talk about that a little bit because he was there. And, you know, and we do talk about '82, yet CDOT also has to deal with I-25 and I-70 and I-76 and -- Right. And I think we're going to go up 270 and miles and miles and miles of cars backed up, similar to the slide that Chris had there in the metropolitan areas. So it is -- it's a complex question. And I drive '82 every day, but I drive it against traffic. Right. Most of the time I try not to get -- go from my home back into Glenwood between 4:00 and 6:00 because it's frustrating. So it's a lot of -- Correct. And -- And -- You're correct. The traffic is there. And you can come up now if you want to speak, yes. All right. Thank you very much for all your time. Thanks for being a concerned citizen. Appreciate it. Good afternoon. My name is Rebecca Doan. I live in Carbondale. My question is -- I'm trying to figure out -- we've had Mark Burnell, who's the traffic engineer for CDOT Region 3, come and meet with some citizens and also meet with you guys. And basically, I think the position I heard from Mark is if you would ask us, we would do it within the corridors of Highway 82, I-70, and just seeing what they could analyze in terms of improving traffic flow. But I'm not understanding why the question isn't being asked of them to do that. Well, why should it be asked? Well, I guess I think it's kind of important to get all the players involved. Why should it be asked? Because my understanding is that the traffic engineer has some ideas about possibilities of getting traffic off I-70 and back on I-70 and so on and so forth. I thought that would be of interest to the county to see if CDOT could add any value to what you've already done, which is great work. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, thank you. Yeah. Please come forward and state your name. Hi. I'm Andy Modell. And I should preface this by saying I'm deaf as a stone and ADD. So you may have mentioned this earlier. Okay. But my concern is proactive communication to the community. And I know that you've got great websites set up and you've got a plan for communicating to people via text and whatnot . Would it be viable to have ongoing texts every week or two directing people to the website where they can get all the information they need beginning tomorrow or next week? So our issue with that is that when people get too many text messages, they unsubscribe. So you overload them, they get tired of it, they just shut it off. So then when they need the information, we can't get the information to them. We have a PIO group I mentioned earlier, we have in the county, and they're really trying to actually be pushed by Carbondale Fire. They were kind of the ones that kind of initiated it, but was to get a lot of messaging out early about wildfire, evacuations, all of that stuff through press releases. So that's our best way to communicate ahead of time. If we overload the system they already have, it just becomes, people become deaf to it because they don't want to hear it anymore. They don't want to know that AD2 is closed again today. So what kind of frequency are you looking at? Really, once a week is probably too much. Okay. Once a month, once every couple of weeks? Yeah, just depending on what else we have going, right? We just have to leave that availability to be able to send out the messages we need to. We really try to stay away from using our emergency alert system to send out just informational stuff. We really rely on our PIO groups, our website, those kinds of things to get that information. But you need to get people. My concern is this. A lot of people take things for granted. Most people do. Most people depend on you people, the commissioners and government and the police and the fire department. You know, we all depend on you to handle everything. And we'll talk about it and we'll give a live service. And in the end, it's bullshit. So you need a way of at least making, giving people an opportunity to say, this is the directed information that you can use. And if it's even once a month, to make it as simple as possible, whether it's for everybody has a text at this point. I don't argue with what you're saying at all. But if there's a way that we could do that, and as far as taxing the system, the system is going to get a lot more taxed if, in fact, we have a fire or whatever, an emergency . And by the time we have an emergency, it's too bloody late. And the other opportunity or the other, I think another potential solution would be to talk to the newspaper and get them, if they would work with the county, and if we could have something with one of those QR codes or whatever those things are, and just say, for information on evacuation, please use this QR code or go to blah, blah, blah, blah, WW , whatever. But you need to, I think you really need to shove it down people's throats. Hi. Hi, how are you? I'm fine. I'm Rennell. I'm Andy Modell. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. See you, Jim. Thanks for being here. Rennell, pull that microphone to you. Oh, sure. Rennell is our PIO. Oh, cool. What's a PIO? Public Information Officer. Yeah! And communications. I love those things. And communications director for Garfield County as Department of 4. I brought in some numbers today. Having seen Chris's presentation to the public safety group last week, I thought it might be time to be ready. So I wanted to go over a couple things that happened during the Lee fire and the Derby fire. I'm going to put my glasses on here. So at the Lee fire, we did approximately 100 posts published on the emergency management feed that Chris mentioned. It's at Garfield County dot net. That came mostly from the BLM federal fire teams, emergency management and local fire agencies. Sorry, I got nervous. And then the BLM Lee fire Facebook had continuous public information going out too on Facebook. Uh, as well as each post that we posted through the Gar field County channel was posted by the Sheriff's Office concurrently on Facebook and they have 32,000 followers. Dispatch also published alerts through Everbridge to regist rants and we published their messaging more widely through the PIO group as well as some messages went out from IPAWS to the whole public, including anyone traveling through. Uh, PIOs from rifle PD, Colorado River fire rescue, city of rifle Garfield County PIO group and many other agencies shared official messaging. Um, we did continuous multi-county communication between Garfield County and Rio Blanco County, um, seven days a week and, and you know, 16, 18 hours a day. Um, the fire teams also held two community outreach sessions for questions in the CMC West Garfield campus auditorium was fully utilized. That was just on the Lee fire. The same time we were doing the Derby fire, we did approximately a hundred posts on that. Uh, federal teams posted on specific fire Facebook pages. They had 2,400 followers. Again, the Sheriff's Office published every single post concurrently with two 32,000 followers. BLM Derby fire Facebook. Um, sorry, I just mentioned that one. Dispatch published alerts through Everbridge. We also went through the Eagle County PIO group with the Eagle County Emergency Operations Center, the Greater Eagle Fire Protection District, Eagle County and Garfield County PIO groups, um, sharing official messaging. Um, we worked with the media directly, radio stations, television, um, and, uh, the newspapers. There was continuous multi-county communication between Eagle and Garfield PIOs during the whole fires. Um, the, we also had, I heard as many as a hundred smaller fires last year. Is that right? That's probably close. Yeah. We had 43, uh, post, sections of posts on that on our emergency feed. Uh, we conducted the Ready, Set, Go model then with NGIS mapping continuously. So the maps were available as well. Um, so the Garfield County Emergency Management feed had 75 7,656 visits between June and September. That's a lot of people. How many? 757,656. That's a lot of people. 757,656. That's a lot of people. 757,656. That's a lot of people. 757,656. 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And then there was paid translation for multiple languages available so that people can do other languages as well. So that's kind of a summary of what we did. And we've been doing extensive preparation this year with additional items to have in play, such as drafted messages to be ready for emergency evacuations, should they call that, and translated ones. You do a hell of a job. I'm not allowed. And I've seen things that you've sent out in the past, and they've been great. Thank you. Again, my only concern is proactive and reaching out. People are oblivious, and most people want to remain obliv ious and trust somebody else. They won't tell there's a fire. And now I'm going to give you a reason to throw me the hell out of here. Okay? Okay. Go ahead. Are you ready? I'm ready. Okay. No swearing, though. For years. For years. I've been mentioning this to different people, starting with Valerie McDonald when she was running it up in Aspen. I've always wondered about, you know, community service is a great thing. In Rotary, I'm part of the group that oversees scholarships . I have a small charity that delivers food to families for Thanksgiving throughout the whole valley and beyond. I've wondered, what I've wondered in working with high school kids in particular, is so many of these kids go out of their way to perform community services. One way, whether it's through their church or whatever it is, or even just having jobs and helping their family. It occurs to me that, again, I'm big on the education concept. It occurs to me, what if we were to maybe find some small fund and educate multilingual or bilingual high school students and maybe three or four days a week send them off to different areas within our wilderness area and within camping grounds or whatever, armed with a camera. That's all they need. And educate people as they see them or remind people and help the Forest Service and help all the other groups that are, you know, vastly underfunded and under-resourced. And give these kids a sense of community, give them a sense of service, and more importantly, they'll provide a bloody job. You're smiling, Tom. Is this already being done? No, it's not. No, it's not. I was just looking at Newcastle. Or was it the mention of money that -- No, I just was looking back at Dave Reynolds and his PIO, and they made me smile. Sorry. Again, and I didn't understand a word you said. I truly am a deficit. You're correct. I was smiling. I got some hearing aids you can buy. Anyway, that's it. Thank you. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Any other comments? I will -- for Siri -- what was your name again, ma'am? My name? Yes. First name. Rebecca. Rebecca. Okay, for Siri and Rebecca, the next chance to talk to us and CDOT will be in June when we will have a meeting with CDOT. It will be primarily about roads in Garfield County, CDOT highway, state highways and so forth. So that will be your next chance to bring up the question that you asked me. Okay. And so that -- and keep that -- keep it alive, so to speak. So, okay. Thank you, Tom. All right. Any other comments from the public? Chris, do you want -- do you have any closing? I don't. I think -- I think everybody for patience with us, we're -- like I said, we're just doing this ready, set, go. So there'll be a lot of stuff coming out about that here over the next couple months. The new zones will be out. I keep telling everybody we may not have it done this year, but hopefully by next fire season, for sure, we'll have all the zones. Done and ready to go. We're starting kind of in the areas we have -- we've had history of more fires, so that we have those kind of zoned out. But we'll -- we'll eventually get the whole county done with the help of the fire districts and the cities and towns. So, thank you. Okay. Thanks. Fred, do you want to close it up? Just thanking everybody for being here. Thank you, Commander Bornhol and Sheriff Filario and others who spoke. This is a great gathering and really important. Yeah, I want to thank -- thank the community. Yes, absolutely. For being here. I was just going to say that -- Also the fire departments, the municipalities. You know, there is -- there is a lot of concern. There's no doubt that everybody's a little uneasy this year because of the lack of snow and the drought we're going through. Commissioner Sampson? Yeah, I got to say a couple of things. Thanks for being here. This has been very informative. I think we all should pray for rain -- a lot of rain -- this summer. Yeah. This summer, yeah. We know how dire the situation is. And I -- I woke up with nightmares, honestly, that, you know, all it takes is one bad spark from whatever. And we could have a catastrophe in Garfield County. And I've talked to Forest Service people and I've talked to the BLM and I've talked to you people, fire people especially. And I'm not against fire bans totally until we get this under control. Yeah. I don't think we should have any campfires. You know, my wife is one of these people -- it's just not camping unless you have a fire. And I tell her, no, do not have a fire. We cannot -- we cannot take any chances. We can't do that because all it takes is one -- one little mess up and we're going to have a catastrophe. Now, if it rains every week or every two weeks, which is that impossible? Well, it's not impossible, but is it going to happen? I bet it's not going to happen. I've lived here 71 years. It just has -- that doesn't happen. But I -- I think it would be a good idea for us all to put pressure on those that have the ability to make those decisions. No campfires. No campfires. No fires. Period. Because if it gets out of control the way it's going, we're going to have a catastrophe in our county. And I do not want that to happen. Who makes the decision? Who should we -- On private land, it's the sheriff and the fire departments. And then on public lands, it's the BLM usually and forest service. Yep. That's a management. For us, and we do -- what we do is we have for many years, you know, fireworks. We ban them. We -- we don't -- I mean, we don't want to take a chance. We don't want to take a chance. And I know it's nice to have a fire. It's really nice. But we got to forfeit that. We got to sacrifice and say, no fires. No fires. We can't have it. We're not -- That's my two cents worth. Okay. Okay. Terry? Yep. I just wanted to say great presentation. Thanks for everyone who spoke. Thanks for the public for showing up and showing the interest in this. Because it is a big deal. And one thing I think was maybe left out a little bit on the evacuations and the command stuff is that the efforts that our road and bridge department and the CDOT maintenance people do, they're manning lots of those roadblocks. And I don't think they were mentioned enough because every one of these I've been involved with, they've been really instrumental in helping with those evacuation routes and keeping people from coming back in and trying to get back in and all that. So I want to give credit to our road and bridge and our CD OT maintenance people. Because there are a lot of times the ones parking the truck there and making the road closure and helping out law enforcement. But I think we have a great plan. And thanks, Chris, and everyone that's put effort into this . I think it's preparedness. That's what we're after. And I think, in my opinion, with there you can't plan for everything. But we've done some great preparedness. And, you know, there's always going to be little snafus. And I have dealt a little bit with the evacuation routes. And I agree with everyone, you can't have an arrow and say that's an evacuation route. That does not work. That will cause you more issues than it will ever solve. And I know there's lots of communities that have asked for that. But in our geographic area, it doesn't work. But overall, great job. Great job of planning. I do like the ready, set, go thing. I think in the last incidents that we've had, it's been pretty darn effective. And people pay attention to it. It's like, hey, we're yelling, you know. We've got to get our ducks in a row. So it's been a really good process. And I think all we can do is improve on it. So thanks to everyone. And thanks for everyone from the public showing up to express their interest in this entire emergency management plan. Thank you. Okay. We'll be adjourned. Thanks, everybody, for being here. Thank you.

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I just want to start by saying thank you to this group, and then thanks to Bob for helping me every meeting. He keeps everything really updated in the spreadsheet, and that helps me. And then thanks to my team, Denise and Kiefer, they've done a great job at getting some of these projects started this year. So -- and then just to start, I just want to highlight a few things before I turn it over to the team. And we have several projects already completed. We have several projects already completed. If you notice the pie chart there, we have a lot completed. We've already started a lot of projects, and we have very few that haven't started. So I think that we're in a really good spot for the first quarter. And, yeah, thanks to all the departments for being on top of it and getting us their projects quick. And are there 25 projects -- 20, 25 projects that weren't completed, are they in this -- are they in this group as well? Yes. Okay. Good. Yeah. So I think we're really in a good spot. And I'll just turn it over to the first person on the list, which is Jim, the assessor. And -- Good morning, Jim. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. So I'm talking about GSA. That's our software program for all of our mass appraisal that we do. And we came to you last year and was letting you know the issues we were having with Tyler. And since then, GSA has been talking to a lot of different counties about converting from Tyler and the other counties, just because of the issues that were going on. So we feel like we're ahead of the curve. Right now we're 43% complete. Our end date is September 14th. That's when we'll have full conversion for this program. So that'll be right when we're doing the abstract and certification. So we'll be sending that out to everyone in both systems. Or we'll be sending it out, but we'll have done it in both systems for what we need to do. And we were in the queue for a long time. And they were able to do some of the data conversion, which is the first big step. And now they've converted their last -- the county that was in front of us. So now we're like out of the queue and we're -- they're top priority right now. Okay. So you'll be running both systems. Will you run Tyler through the end of the fiscal year? We have them. It'll -- we'll run it through definitely our -- having to send abstract out, because we need to be sure we get values to all the local governments. Does that create double inputting and putting it in two systems? Not really, because it -- Or is it -- Automatically -- Yeah. And I mean, we're -- that's part of the conversion process that they're -- they're training us on. So they're able to take the -- all the information that we 're putting in one system into Tyler right now. Everyone's still working in Tyler right now. And then they're able to take that information and put it into their -- their program. And it matches up? It actually used to be a much bigger -- Yeah, well, that's what we're working on. It reconciles? That's what we're working on. Okay. Yeah. That's the tough part. It's got to reconcile. And there is some -- some pretty interesting news. So they did pick up a top consultant in the state of Colorado to help them out with Tyler conversions. Lisa Warder's going to start -- Great for Lisa. They picked her up as a -- Good for Lisa. -- as a part-time consultant. So we're like, what? Mm-hmm. So that's awesome. We're excited about that. Okay. So we're going to have a couple of questions for Jim on this conversion. No. Yeah. Make it work. Yeah. I have no -- I have no choice, Tom. Yeah. We have no choice. It has to work. Okay. And what are your deadlines? What deadlines you have to meet to have -- Well, we need to be sure we deliver a tax roll by the end of the year. Right. Right. The -- the main deadline we're focusing on with -- in regards to the conversion will be abstract. So that's when we total up all the value for the entire county after we've done CBOE cases and everything. And then we send the assessed value to each government, including y'all. And say this is how much money you have to work with -- this is how much value you have to work with -- Right. -- to apply your mill levies to and figure out what kind of a budget you're going to have moving into 2027. So that's our first big deadline. And you have that early in the summer, but you finalize that in August. Is that correct? So, you know, August is the first -- the first iteration that we send out to everybody is in August. And then -- Gives everybody an idea at that time. Yeah. A good idea. And then, you know, there are a few changes happen between August and December, and then we finalize it. And then that's when we come back with the big certification report that says these are the final mill lev ies, and this is the final revenue that all governments combined are generating from property tax. And are the notices of valuation -- those will go out just based on the Tyler system? Yeah. So notices of valuation, they're going out in May. Yeah. So this year, it's a little bit different. We're sending out notices of value to everybody in an intervening year. So we didn't revalue the county this year, but everyone is going to get a postcard notice of valuation sent to them in May. Okay. So -- But it's not a -- so we should have an easier summer then. Yeah. Right? Theoretically. Theoretically. I mean, it's all good. I mean, most appeals come in and we handle them at the desk . So you don't even see them. And we appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Yep. Thank you. Thank you. And then we'll move to the Sheriff's Office. I think Kathy's here. Good morning. Thank you. Good morning. All right. So first on the list is a two elevator replacement. That project parts are still coming in. It is currently on track for end of July completion. So they'll start beginning in June. And they'll be doing both at the same time. That was a 2025 carry forward as well. I believe it was a carry forward, right? And the other half was a supplement? That's correct. Okay. Our search and rescue grant, we completed the drone. We got some grant funding and purchased the drone late 2025 . So that one's complete. The medium cell split into minimum/medium cell. That we did a punch list walkthrough last week. It's looking great. They're installing. So it's up. It's physically up. Physically up. Looks good. I have a couple pictures I'd be happy to share with you guys. I'm sure you'll want to come over and see it at some point as well. There's some discussion about the rec yard wall and there's some give in it. They're going to be adding structural beam in there later in the season. So we did a punch list walkthrough last week. It's looking great. They're installing. So it's up. It's physically up. Physically up. Looks good. I have a couple pictures I'd be happy to share with you guys. I'm sure you'll want to come over and see it at some point as well. We're going to be able to put inmates in next week once our POPs booths are installed. POPs booths are being installed this week. So a couple of big projects wrapping up and moving forward. But yeah, everything is up and in. There are a couple of minor things they have to come back and wrap up later like an exit sign, I believe. But it looks great. So let's see. X-ray scanner for the courthouse is on order. Replacement chiller. I'm getting some information on that currently last week and this week. So that will take place very soon as well. Jail POPs booths have been delivered. They delivered yesterday and apparently they're pretty large, pretty extensive to put together. So they're working through that this whole week. The hope is to be completed by the end of the week with installation on those. And again, those will help us with some HIPAA one-on-one meetings with inmates inside the pod when they have open rec time. There's also ability to do virtual meetings with mental health and some other things that really helps us with staffing also. So we're not moving inmates from the pod that they're in down to medical or down to a mental health office. So we have high hopes for those booths and can't wait to report back on that later. And that was grant funded half and also carried from last year into this year for completion. Let's see. Jail medical monitor for inmates. So we're starting the scope of work. We're just starting on that project. So in the very early stages as well as the jail replacement body scanner. But we do have high hopes that that project, that $170,000 body scanner will come in less. About $25,000 or $30,000 is the hope. We'll see. That's just on current information. So we're in the beginning scope of work phases on that as well. Jail camera system replacement. That's our big camera project. It's three phases. Phase one is wrapping up next week. And then phase two, while they work, which is the server room. That will be end of April, beginning of May. Still on track to take place. And then phase three. Don't have a timeline on the phase three part yet, but that 's where they actually will install each specific camera based on the view that's needed throughout the facility. And does this budget amount cover all three phases? Correct. Okay. But you don't know when you're going to get into phase three. Not at this time. What is phase three? Phase three is actual delivery of the specific cameras throughout the facility and installation of those cameras. So the first phase has to do with -- oh, sorry, I had some notes on that. Phase one is where all the equipment is coming in. And there's pieces and parts of that that interact with our motherboard system. And then this phase two is the -- what's it called in the IT room with all the -- servers. This is server part. Thank you. The big server part. I know. I'm like, I'm just envisioning it. I'm like, what is -- yeah. And then the last -- You didn't look at me for that answer. I didn't look at you. Sorry. I know. I'm the same page as you. And the last part is the actual installation of all the cameras throughout the facility. And now that the jail wall is up, they can determine exactly which kind they need and where they need to be placed. So that was part of the reason we wanted to wait for the wall to be completed to start the camera project. And you think this will be complete by the end of the year? Yes. Yes. Yeah. They do think that it's going to be fall completion, late July, early August. But again, he made it a point to say, well, we're not really sure when phase three will start or end at this point in time. So. So then I have four handheld radio replacements. That's our patrol handheld. We actually had enough funding to purchase five with this 24,000. And those are on order currently. That's a new model now that we're moving into. So we're just slowly doing a replacement. Probably do four or five every year. And then the last project on. What brand are you getting again? We are getting Motorola. Yeah. They're APX N30s right now is the newest model. And then last but not least on here are our ticket replacement printers in the patrol vehicles. That has already taken place. I believe he's wrapping up the last of the swapping of them . So we've purchased them. They've all come in. And we just have one RMDT expert person going through each vehicle and replacing them. So that's wrapping up here pretty soon. Okay. Additional questions for Kathy? Thank you. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks, Kathy. Got a big chunk of our capital there. Yeah. A lot of money, yeah. Yeah. We'll move on to IT then. Okay. Hi, Gary. Thanks, Gary. Morning. Morning. Morning. So the first item there is our annual equipment repl acements. That's ongoing. Every year. Every year, yes. Every year, yes. We attempt to replace about a fifth of our computers along with other devices that just fail during the year like phone, desk phones, monitors, things like that that come up. Every year, yes. We attempt to replace about a fifth of our computers along with other devices that just fail during the year, like desk phones, monitors, things like that that come up. But I kind of ran into a bit of an issue this year. All of the computer companies are raising prices by at least 20%, and that's due to all of the chips and storage and so forth being used by AI data centers. So is that tariff related as well? I don't believe the tariff is having that much of an effect , but it is just these larger operations have taken up all of the supply of chips and processors and things like that. So is that inventory issue there? Yeah. But with Kim and her team and Sherry and Roy and Tao on our team, we're going to go out and try to see what kind of prices we can get, if there's some better options out there, and just see what the market is doing. That's correct. We have an RFP about to go out. We're just going to try to hold a few contractors to some pricing for the rest of the year, and then potentially have something in place for the next two years if we can. Yeah. So that was a bit of a shock when we found out. Excuse me. Bless you. Data center operating systems, we've replaced those. Typically, we do a longer term, but we found out this year they're only doing one year at a time now. So that's why that amount, 45,000, may end up being all that we spend this year on that particular item, so be able to return some funds there. The backup replication system storage, we had just a couple of items. Would you cover that again on data center? Why are we going to have some funds returned? Because in the past, we bought multi-year versions. It's one year. And now they've changed it to one year. Thank you. So another surprise that they keep propping up. So we've got some funds returned for this year, but then there'll be funds spent every year then? Correct. Right. The backup and replication system, we had a couple of items that were completed this year. Should have been done last year, but they ran into some technical issues, so they completed that just recently. The wireless system replacements, we're waiting for fiscal end of year for Cisco, which is the company we get equipment from. And they normally give us a pretty good price at the end of their fiscal year. Or just before the end of their fiscal year. So that's at 0% because it's a timing issue? Yes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Cyber security tools, managed services. We have quite a few items in there that we use. Our Know Before cybersecurity training. We have consultants helping us with shoring up our M365, our Microsoft security. We have a 24 by 7 security operation center that monitors for malware and other attacks, you might say, on our systems, our desktop machines. So that's in there as well. And throughout the year, we monitor the situation with cybersecurity. It's really escalated right now due to world issues. But there have been a lot of attacks on county governments and just local governments in general. I just read about one before I came downstairs that a county using a cloud-based fax system had been attacked by Iranian actors, bad actors, whatever you want to call them. So we're watching those sorts of things and just trying to anticipate what we can use, what new tools we may need to help us in that constant struggle. So that's all we're on. Okay. Questions for Greg? All I can say is no news is good news from your department. Yeah. Yeah. And thanks for keeping us going because it affects everybody. It affects the entire county if we don't have our IT up and going, our computer score. So, yeah. Thank you. I have one question. I'm for it. So, and Fred, I don't know if you've mentioned this, but down at the rifle admin building, so when I went to AG&C for you, they might say, you know, when people call in, it just bleeps in and bleeps out. And I was talking to people at AG&C and they said that's the only place they have that problem. And it's been that way for quite a while. And I know we've tried to work with things and it's okay for a while and then it's not and then it's okay and then it's not. Yeah, the phone system in rifle was run by Ting and it was squared away. Ting is getting out of that particular realm. So they had a, I don't know, third party come in and take over that piece. Since then we've been trying to iron out these technical difficulties, but they've had their folks working on it. They've had Ting engineers. They've had our guys and just can't seem to iron out all the bugs. But since it's still ongoing, I can contact the -- And I bring it up because AG&C said, you know, they're probably going to quit having meetings there if they can't have people zoom in. To zoom in though, that's -- Zoom, yes. Okay. That's a different thing. Somebody's zoomed in and you can't hear what they're saying or you hear every other word. You've seen it several times, Mike. But we had some pretty important stuff going on there the other day that you just couldn't hear. Okay. Or you couldn't understand what they were trying to convey. So that may be a wireless issue there. So -- So would that be the phone? It's not the phone? It's not the phone? No. Not the phone. It's the network itself. The wireless. So who -- You say Ting is going out. Who's the new provider? I guess. They're called Alianza. I've never heard of them. But it's not a phone issue. It's a wireless issue. It's a wireless issue. This particular one, yes. We have had phone issues because of the transition. But, yeah, this is different. You know what I'd like to do, Gary, is get with you and maybe get on a three-way call with Tiffany Dickinson. She's there. And just have her explain specifically what's happening. Yeah, that would be good. And maybe that can get the wheels rolling. It would help us troubleshoot as well. All right. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Can we have facilities up next? Good morning, Dave. Good morning, everyone. Okay. Okay. Can we have facilities up next? Good morning, Dave. Good morning, everyone. Okay. Okay. 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And we've discussed this extensively. We have -- mid-design development, there was a scope change . We realized that the automatic transfer switch was the problem, not the generator. The generator itself is -- has low hours and has plenty of remaining useful life. So, the new scope is focused -- is focused on replacing the automatic transfer switch conductors in reconfiguring the position of the ATS, the transfer switch, and another panel called the disconnect. So, we do have -- we have issued an intent to award to Phoenix Industries. And this is on the agenda for next week as an action item. And there will be a supplement request for this project. So, the electrical work is going to cost more than replacing the generator? The -- yes. The -- this -- however, if you're just looking at the budget numbers, the answer to that is yes. I do want to say that this budget was not -- this was an inherited budget. 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So currently of our 2025 units that they're working on, they're working on the fifth one. They've released four that are in circulation that we're running now. And then of the other nine, one is not a patrol vehicle. So it says limited upfitting that will get done after the remaining eight patrol units. Based on his-- Those are last year's vehicles? Those are the 25s. We're getting them going in 26. And so is this going to be the same rotation? We'll get these vehicles next year at this time, roughly? No, the hope is to get caught up, obviously. So the timeline that he's giving us from GRACO will be around August to start our 2026 vehicles. And we are getting six this year. Five are showing up today or tomorrow. And the sixth probably next week. And so the hope is that, you know, ideally we don't want to have any carry forward projects. Right. And we caught up to a place where we can have an actual steady, realistic workflow for vehicles and upfitting in the future. And we're getting them out the door. I see 12 to 14 business days. Are they getting them out the door that quick? Yeah, 12 to 14 business days, so it's about three weeks. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And we've been-- How many changing colors for sheriff's vehicles? They're black. Right. Yes, so the 25s and the 26 are black. What we're doing next year, I have no idea. Those wraps look good. Huh? The wraps on them look good. Yeah, the new--it's a--they're black. They're black now with kind of a darker tan. Mm-hmm. Gold. Yeah, I guess it's gold decal color. Yeah. And we've been working with Kathy on the transport van. We may assist with putting the cage in and doing that sort of stuff to help us beat that up, too, so. That vehicle won't even be--I think it's June manufacturer date. But, yeah, that would save us some time at upfitting as well. Okay. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks, Scott. Thanks, Scott. And then we move on to the landfill. Oh. We'll do landfill for Debbie. 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We had some money in there for a while. I'll just start at the top. Good morning, Commissioners. So the asphalt improvement, we were getting quotes on that. That actually might become concrete improvements. We just had some critical repairs over by the Rondo hangar. So we're going to get some quotes and see if we can fix those issues that recently came up. We're working on that. Is that going to affect ramp replacement then? Possibly. Possibly. That was -- so the asphalt maintenance wasn't ramp. It was really more of the asphalt over by the snow removal equipment building. We wanted to replace the millings that were there with asphalt. So since the Rondo hangars is more movement area for aircraft, that might bump it. Paint and signs, we budgeted $20,000. We had that in place waiting on the rules and regulations because we anticipate some changes. And it just needs painting anyhow, a lot of the lines and no parking and that type of stuff. Okay. So we're getting into the big ones. Okay. Now we're getting into the big ones. The apron reconstruction engineer design. That is for the apron project. That's the big one. That is teed up and ready to go out for bid next week. Right? Actually, I got that posted on the 1st or 2nd of April. So that is out to bid. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Good job. Thank you. So I'm having trouble. I'm going to have to get glasses soon. Get out. I'm getting that in. It happens. I fought it off for 56 years. It's the slide also and we could see it. Okay. I don't know. Do you have it up there? I just -- oh, there it is. The quality is not -- I can squint through it. I apologize. Sorry. That was -- Yeah. Taxiway, bravo. There we are. So, yeah, that one, Kimberly's office is working diligently on that. And we hope to get that out for bid. Well, we're going to come to the board next week with finance and get the funding in place that we had discussed before for Bravo. We came up with a plan, so we'll be coming to you for that. We get the funding, it'll be ready to go out for bid. So both of those projects will be out for bid and under construction this summer and ambitiously going to try to get both done by October. So that's the major apron project and the new taxiway Bravo . So that's two pretty big projects in one summer. And were there grants on those or are those 100% Garfield County? Bravo is 100% Garfield County. The apron project, that one is majority FAA, 90%, state 5%, and thus 5%. Is that -- maybe I'm not tracking the numbers. Is that the numbers at the top in the red? Yes. Okay. And that's the reimbursement for the grant. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. So we'll move on to airfield safety equipment. That's the transponders that we're going to be putting in all the vehicles for safety so that aircraft see our snow removal equipment while we're out plowing on the runway. Fuel farm maintenance, that is something -- we had a pretty big inspection last year, so we're getting quotes now for some of the repairs. They have to go in the fuel farm tanks and actually do some internal repairs of those tanks. And I think we'll end up taking that out to bid considering the budget. So we're still working with them on that one. The security access system, phase two. So we accomplished phase one last year. This is just the second phase. It's a lot of major new camera systems and access control. And that's underway. We're already scheduling that. The next two, the Aspen snowblower. That's a purchase we made from the Aspen Airport. We got a much needed snowblower for $75,000. $50,000. Yeah, $50,000. And so that was a big benefit for us because those things are half a million dollars. And the firefighter tender, that was also another good purchase for us. So we bought from CRFR. It was something they were putting out for surplus. So that basically gives us the ability. We only had one fire truck. A lot of times when aircraft charters call asking for our standby, there's different indexes. And a lot of them require two vehicles. So now that we have this one, we'll be able to do it. Where in the past, CRFR would come out and stand by. So that was another good purchase for us. And then hopefully this summer, we're going to attend the Denver Airport auction again. I went last year. Oh, yeah. Cool. Where'd you find a fire off? I didn't think it was that cool. Cool. Very good. Yeah, that could be dangerous. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, last year happened, just happened to be one of the worst years as far as inventory. So they expect this year to be much better just the way things rotate there. So hopefully we'll find some good equipment there because we still need plenty. Yeah, especially snow removal equipment. And then the master plan that is getting pretty close to completion. The consultants are sending the airport layout plan to the FAA this week for their review. And that's the real technical part of it. So once FAA returns that back, which we don't see -- and we 've had discussions with them throughout this, so we don't anticipate any issues. So once we get that back, we'll -- and this goes for the airport business plan, too, same timeline -- we'll meet with the TAC committee again, and then we'll come to the board for approval of the master plan and the business plan. And Sam, is that the final meeting of the TAC? Yeah. Before then it comes back to the Board of County Commission ers? Correct. And then after all of that, does it go back to the FAA or is that it? No. That's it. Well, they'll get a copy with our signatures. When did you say the TAC plan would be -- they would be done, the committee? So once it comes back from the FAA, we'll meet again with the TAC and -- or get it out to them and let them have one more look at it before it comes to the board. So kind of a timeframe there? What are we looking at? We're probably looking at two months, to be honest, because the FAA just takes that long once they get their hands on anything. Is there a timeline for the FAA? Do they have a specific timeline or not? They typically say everything 90 days. Okay. Yeah. So we're hoping to get it more, but that's usually anything you send them, they say they have 90 days to look at. Okay. Which is probably why you picked summer of '26 in your comments. Yeah. And then sometimes there's -- depending on what's going on in the country, they could, you know, if they're -- whatever, they could take longer. So is that -- am I reading that correct, that our expense is going to be $1,280,000, but the total expense is $8,407,000? Is that correct? Do we have that much? Yeah. That's the entire report. That's the entire report. Right. Okay. Got it. Got it. That's true. It might be nervous. Okay. All right. But still, we have, I mean, substantial grants, obviously, for the aprons. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, just get that done this summer. Yeah. Very important. Thank you, Sam. Thank you. I'm sorry. I just wanted to make a comment is, I think this is a good job, and I want to -- he's left already Scott, but particularly the road and bridge, but there were others, the Sheriff's Department as well as them, you know, shouldn't mention all of you, but a special call out to those, I mean, I remember our facts. We had like 15 million and we cut it to five, and that was a lot of work by a lot of you people, and thank you. We faced a tough year. We may be facing some more tough years. Thank you for working with us on that, because, you know, I don't know how many of you tuned in yesterday, but we had some people that wanted half a million dollars, and we just had to say, "No, can't do it." We've had to cut our budgets, and we had to freeze, and we 've -- we've had to cut our fees, and we've tightened our belts, and I hope and pray we don't have to do that next year, but we'll see. We'll see what happens. The price of natural gas isn't going up. The price of oil is way up, but not natural gas. So, thanks. Gary, anything? Nope. Thank you, everybody. We will take a -- we'll take a break and then get Josh and Sarah ready to go. Thanks, Kim. Thank you. Appreciate it. We are on the air. We're on the air. We're on the air. So -- We're going to go back to you, Fred, for introductions. Sure. Thank you, commissioners. Next on your agenda this morning, this is two updates. One is the quarterly communicable disease report. Sarah Brainerd, your public health deputy director, is here to make that. So welcome, Sarah. And then also there's sort of a holistic overview of the nutrition program. These are updates. Christine Singleton also here this morning. Hello. And the WIC program manager. Iris Chacon, community health worker, and Emily Stanton, public health nutritionist -- nutritionist -- -- are all here to present to you. So -- and it's been a while. This is really a holistic overview. And by design commissioners, we have essentially recalib rated a little bit of the way public health presents to you and shares because of the volume of information is -- can be large. And although very important, having the work session concept allows that broader, longer conversation to share that information with the board rather than at a sort of a weekly meeting. So that's part of the recalibration for the board. So I'm happy to introduce Joshua Witt. Thank you, sir. Joshua Williams, public health director. Thank you, sir. Yeah. Joshua Williams, public health director. Happy April. And so with that, every year, the first week of April, the full week is National Public Health Month. And so just a little additional to this. So kind of the timing of this is good. You know, remember in the past, we've had a declaration and -- and coming out of COVID, we had that pretty close. And the commissioners issued a proclamation and some discussion and thanking public health. So it was really, really nice during that time period for the staff. But just want to highlight that. It is National Public Health Week. So recognizing the staff and all the hard work that they do and, you know, working through last year. And we are starting the hiring process, too. So those positions that opened up and really appreciate it. It's kind of a double-edged sword, you know, because we were doing hiring and we're doing interviews and different things. And so we're busy. But we got some good candidates and excited about that. And Sarah, as she moves into her presentation, we will be having a nurse manager start next week, next Monday. So Dan Allen, who is currently with Valley View and is infectious disease. So excited about that. We'll bring them to meet y'all when we get to that time period. But -- and Sarah has put together a report for communicable disease. Let you know what's all going on. Definitely had lots of cases and, you know, with her tuber culosis numbers and the time that it takes the staff to deal with that. So turn it over to Sarah. Okay. Welcome, Sarah. Thank you. Good morning, commissioners. Sarah Brainerd, Garfield County Public Health Deputy Director. I wanted to give just our annual review of reportable diseases for 2025. This is something that we try to keep in front of you all so you know what's going on in your county. Starting at the top of the chart that was provided to you, you can see animal bites are our number one most reported cases. And animal bites are required to be reported. However, case management and follow-up is really only needed for those that were concerned about potential exposure to rabies. So our domestic animal bites from cats and dogs typically don't need follow-up. We like to make sure that people are up to date on their tetanus vaccination, that they're receiving proper care for the bite. But the follow-up is less. So even though that number is large, a lot of our response can be minimized by a domestic animal bite cat or dog. Does the reporting come from the hospital or from the police department? Typically from the hospitals. Grand River is really good at reporting their animal bites. Valley View is really good at sending people over to analyze for post-exposure prophylaxis when rabies shots are needed or not. For rabies now, what is the, what's the cure? Immune globulin is the first thing that you would receive. It's an injection. And then followed by four doses of vaccine. And so that would be the, the pre, pre to treatment. We've tried to prevent the development of rabies. If it. I remember my brother getting bit by a squirrel. Okay. And had to go through this awful series of shots. Like nine days in a row or something. It can be. In his stomach. That's what I was going to say that they have to, a bunch of shots and it's all in the stomach. No, no. Is that used to be? Used to be. Maybe that's what it used to be. That's in the olden days. This is the olden days. But there are, there can be several shots. So immune globulin is dosed based on weight of the individual. And so, and it's thick and, and hard to inject. And so, and the public health department doesn't actually carry immune globulin. So that needs to be administered at one of our local hospitals. Um, that can break down into multiple injections based on the dosage and how much the injector wants to push in one shot. So that can make multiple, but then the vaccine itself is just one shot and you get four of those over a series of days and following that schedule, that strict schedule is really important. And we try to administer that prior to the development of any signs or symptoms to get people protected. So we call that post exposure prophylaxis, the prophylaxis, it being the prevention component. Um, so what we try to do is depending on where the bite is, inject that immune globulin near the bite. So if you were bitten on the stomach, it would be the stomach. If you're bit on the back of the leg, hopefully they would do the immune globulin in the back of the leg. If you're bit on the hand or the face, that can get a little more complicated. So we might do a deltoid muscle or something like that. So it does depend on where the bite occurs. Not all of them have to happen in the stomach. But out of those animal bites, I assume it's very few that are rabies. Thank you. Exactly. And that's, one or two a year or something like that. That's the point that I want to, we, we have a lot of bats here in Garfield County and that's our greatest vector for rabies in the community. And so we do a lot of outreach during the time of year when we start seeing bats, um, kind of migrating through the area that if you wake up with a bat in your house and you don't know if it had contact with you or not, if their teeth are so sharp that can happen where you wouldn't know, but you wake up and there's a bat on your floor. We would encourage you to bring that bat in for testing because we have time before starting the injections to have the animal tested to see if it is rabid. That's our ideal situation. One, the injections are many, um, but they're also very expensive and there is not a public health program or a way to pay for the virus. And so we, um, we have to, uh, we have to, uh, we have to have a, we have to have a way to pay for those injections outside of billing insurance when that's applicable. Medicaid does cover. But if you're uninsured, it's, it can be a very expensive process, let alone going through that initial immunoglobul in at the hospital. So I think, you know, we try to keep our prices a little more competitive and a little more reasonable and work with people, especially when it's indicated as a lifesaving measure. But there is a cost. And, um, so we really want to administer that when it's necessary and try to minimize the overuse of that if it's not indicated. But when we don't know, we have to err on the side of caution and we will administer those. They are very safe. Um, it's a safe treatment program. Bless you. So, yeah. So that's, yeah, 28. That's a really good question. Dog bites. Most are dog bites. Most are dog bites. We have some feral cats in the West end of the community that we will see people interact with. Um, and just because of our rabies rates being so low in even a cat may not be domesticated. It might be feral, but we haven't seen knock on all the wood, uh, rabies in those and cats, um, feral or domestic. So we typically don't administer rabies prophylaxis in that situation. Bats, a lot of times we do. And so I would say we probably did about 10 without, I mean , I could get back to you on the exact number. That would probably be better than guessing, but. So, can rabies be, uh, transmitted to the victim, I guess, through claws or does it have to be the mouth and teeth? So saliva is the. Carrier. The carrier. That's the, what you worry about getting in through an open wound. However, scratching, um, could have like saliva on it. So we do worry about scratches. Okay. All right. Thank you. Yeah. So I got a question about protocol for testing. Yes. So who, who can get, who can get an animal tested? The public health department can submit to the state laboratory for rabies testing. It's the brain tissue that's tested. Right. I understand that part, but. So I get calls all the time. Yeah. Especially raccoons, you know. Sure. They want to get it tested. Sure. So do you automatically test if someone brings you or do you have to have an official bring you the animal? We, yes, we need to have an official, um, interaction with the human and the animal and then the animals. No, no, no, no, no. I mean an official person or any person in the public can bring you a raccoon. Yes. If they've had a bite. Only a bite. If they've had a potential exposure through a bite or a scratch with a raccoon, then we would need to, sorry, this is gruesome, but decapitate the raccoon because they're large to submit the brain for testing. And then we would need to have a, you know, a lot of people who are not going to have a problem. Yeah. We have skunks. Yeah. We've done a lot of different things and we're really good partners with CPW. Thank them very much because our staff would not like that process very much of getting, getting, yeah. There's a dead skunk. Get his head off. Oh, shaggy man. And that's just for what it's worth, whoever's listening, um, we prefer them to be dead and not crushed. Their brain tissue, um, is small. And so they need to be whole. But if you bring them to the health department, we prefer them to be dead. We've dealt with, with live ones and you know, I could write a book about that. Yeah. Yeah. And we asked them to be double bagged and use gloves and all those precautionary things if folks have contact with them. Yeah. To minimize exposure. I had employees go see the rabies thing from bats. Um, and that's a good point is that we work with our vet tech program to do pre exposure prophylaxis. We work with a lot of our veterinarians in the area because you can do a pre and travelers actually through our travel vaccination program. You can do a pre series that if you know you have a higher risk of exposure to rabies, that we can then not do immune globulin and reduce the number of injections. Um, because if somebody is at high risk for exposure, we want to minimize what their treatment would look like for a post exposure prophylaxis. I'll add to you just if you don't mind is real quick. Um, you know, having folks get their domestic animals vaccinated is, you know, uh, a good cautionary, right? And so we, we promote that because, you know, with the animal shelters and a shout out to, I think that relationship that the commissioners support financially with the journey home and, um, and care is the quarantine process. So what there is a bite or something. So if, if it is a known animal, they are able to retain it. They quarantine it for a set amount of time. If it passes that quarantine, then we don't have to do the pro the, the testing or the vaccinations. And so, you know, that relationship is vital to public health. And, uh, in that capacity because most folks, you know, it is impactful if it is a pet or something that, um, has to be tested, you know, if that's the solution or the, the only solution, then it is euthanasia and sending it in for testing and things. And so that's a critical step. I think that is supported by those agencies in the process of public health response. And also a large shout out to our Sheriff's Department, who is basically our animal control for unincorporated Garfield County. We also work with our local municipalities, um, police departments that serve as animal control that support that quarantine process for a domestic animal if that's needed. So yes. Thank you. I had that thought at a point in the past. We're a team. Yay. Okay. Okay. So then just kind of moving down, looking at, um, our second highest number of reportable conditions was flu hospitalizations in 2025. Um, as you can see, the five year median was a lot less. Um, we doubled our numbers from last year to for 2024 to 2025 of flu hospitalizations. And I would say that flu vaccination really can help reduce deaths and hospitalizations. We had about a 24% flu vaccination rate this year. And that's just too low. Um, and it was a bad flu season. Unfortunately, our children were heavily impacted in the country. Um, so that, but that number, um, 63 hospitalizations for 2025 includes adults and children with no reported, uh, pediatric fatalities. Good. Yes. Um, then kind of cruising down, looking at other respiratory illnesses, RSV hospitalizations, um, in 2024, um, in 2024, pretty much matched, uh, 2025. 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And so enteric infections are gastrointestinal infections that impact the gastrointestinal tract caused by bacteria, viruses, or parasites. Um, we most commonly see bacteria and those being campylob acter, E. coli, and salmonella. Um, specifically with our E. coli, it's the STEC or shiga toxin producing E. coli. So there's several different types of E. coli. Not all of them are reported. Um, but those are the ones that we're tracking. And those are typically food and waterborne illnesses. Um, you know, storage of food handling, um, improper temperatures, which is what our consumer protection works with our local retail food, uh, vendors on . And, um, yeah, I'm making sure. Do we call it like food poisoning? Is that what we're all about? A lot of people do. Food poisoning is typically a toxin that hits you pretty fast and hard and kind of goes. These bacteria can take a little while to show up actually. So a nice thing to, to promote is that if it's a true, um, bacterial infection, it's probably not the last thing you ate. Where a lot of people who get food poisoning, it could be the last thing they ate. And they think that. But when, once we do a little bit more investigation, um, and when people are really sick. And so clearly these people are very sick because they're going in for testing. And we test the stool. And it identifies what bacteria is, is present. Um, but again, a lot of times those have a little bit longer incubation period and is definitely not the last thing you ate. It's probably about three days before. And so going through a food history to really try to understand where they could have gotten that bacteria exposure. Uh, I'll add on that point. Please. Just to kind of use the numbers too, it's, you know, those food borneils, the enteric. Our team, uh, does investigations on those too. So we think about the consumer protection team and, and doing the retail food establishment inspections and, and those licensed vendors and things. Um, but a part of it as well is the team, uh, the nursing team and the CPT and the environmental health team that, you know, each one of these, as they come in, has to be evaluated and case managed and investigated and a food, like you say, calling the person, what'd you eat? What's your timeline and gathering that information. So it is, this report also is like a good visual into like some of those extras that we're doing behind the scenes that the scientists, the trained staff, um, are taken on every, you know, daily into their processes of response, you know, and supporting the community and trying to figure out where the exposure may have occurred and those things. And so oftentimes we do, uh, uh, getting to a place to determine whether it was a chemical exposure or something like that. Sometimes it's, uh, in that effort of poisoning, you might be, you know, cleaning the lines or, or it's a sanitation thing or, or an issue versus truly, uh, you know, an infection from, uh, foodborne illnesses. And so it's just, I think I like, it's a good aspect to look at, you know, each one of those has a timestamp with it, you know, and, uh, that can get lengthy, um, independent on if it, if we do move into an outbreak scenario, that's what we're trying to kind of bridge that. Is it just an off case, uh, maybe a family or something that was exposed versus is this a larger issue that we have to do a, an outbreak response type scenario that we've had to do a couple of times over the years. So, thanks. Yeah. Thank you. Um, and then I've talked about tuberculosis in the past. Joshua mentioned it in his introduction. So just kind of wanted to, to let you know that we still do see a lot of TB, um, and do a lot of case management here with Garfield County Public Health. We're most. Is it on this list? It is not. It's a separate. TB is tracked separately as well as sexually transmitted infections. So those aren't on this report either. Um, but, uh, to kind of update you, we're mostly seeing through the health department are non-infectious latent TB infection cases. And those are the ones that have been exposed to tuber culosis at some point in their life. Um, but they're not contagious or sick. So we can treat them with antibiotics so that they never develop active disease. So another preventive motion that we really work hard at and is very time intensive. Um, we treated about 20 latent TB infection cases over the last five years through the health department directly. Um, we've referred over 40 people to various treatment options. Um, there's probably another 20 or so that we unfortunately lose to follow up. Um, and we've had about one active TB case each year, um, for the last five years. So the numbers don't, don't yell at you like 128 animal whites. However, um, the intensiveness. So, uh, course of latent TB. What's the quarantine, what's the quarantine time on TB? The quarantine time can vary. We typically do an isolation period for an active case of two weeks and evaluate and make sure they are not continuing to have, um, to be contagious during that time. If they, if the testing proves that they could still be infectious, that isolation period could go longer. And what are the symptoms? Symptoms really include cough, bloody, um, sputum, weight loss, night sweats. Those are kind of the most common for a pulmonary tuber culosis. Um, we've seen actually Garfield County Public Health has treated two ocular TB cases in the last two years. And so TB can, is a germ, it's a, you know, it's bacteria that can present really anywhere in your body. And so when it gets outside of the lungs, it's gets a little bit trickier to treat and identify. The eye is really hard because we don't, um, usually get like a culture to grow the bacteria from. So we do, uh, evaluation of symptoms and through treatment, are they improving? And treatment for somebody like that is an observed. So with active disease, we do an isolation period where no people, no places for that infectious period of time, hopefully two weeks, potentially longer. But they typically receive six to nine months of antibiotic treatment that's observed daily. We have to watch them take that treatment. So as you can imagine, that can be quite involved. Um, and. And. What if you miss one day? Was that? If you miss one day. Start again? We typically tack on to the end. We try to do a certain number of doses in a certain number of period of time. If, if that gets missed, then it just gets longer and longer. Um, yeah, I don't even want to talk about drug resistant TB , but it is out there also. So that's what we really worry about. So there is extensive case management and our team does such a good job of really trying to make sure people don't miss doses. We've worked with technology to be able to do video observed treatment. Um, that's been a big game changer for folks that live in harder to reach places or have different schedules so that they can be more compliant with their treatment. Yeah. And that, it does impact budgets, particularly, um, with the isolation. And, you know, so we are, we have responsibility for if the person needs to be put into a, uh, a separate hotel or a separate building. And then, so we work with DHS and some of those areas too, and then food. And so those things are costs to us in those situations, you know, as well as like you say, a staff person every day . Yeah. It can get pretty overwhelming, you know, when having short staff and things to being able to keep that going. Uh, like Sarah said, is her team's just went to, uh, World TB Day training, uh, this a couple weeks ago. March 24th is, is World TB Day. It's nationally recognized. Yeah. Yeah. So we were able to get the team down there, um, three nurses and, uh, it was a couple days of, uh, discussion and training. And, um, so we, we, we invest in that as well to keep staff up to date on current trainings. So. Okay. The, the, the, the, I was just going to mention the, um, latent or non-infectious TB cases that we treat. because that number is a little bit greater, it's a four- month treatment. We don't have to observe them take their pills, but we do case manage. So the state provides the medication. We follow them, get them ordered. They do monthly appointments to pick those up and making sure that they're completing that treatment over a course of four months. The same for non-infective TB? It's part. Still a bloody cough? Infection? No, I'm sorry. For symptoms, there's no symptoms for a non-infectious blat ant TB. How do they know then? We do testing. 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Well, I think the age of the office in the Mountain View building. Right. And so some limitations there for utilizing the space is, you know, with, say, conferencing on the second floor. It's only stairs and those things kind of play into it as well. I think we could always use some better, you know, accommodations in that point. And, you know, we did that study a couple of years ago with DHS. But, and so that kind of plays into, I think, some of the scenarios. There's office space is there. Most of it's upstairs. And we're not ADA compliant. No. So that's the biggest, you know, thing there. As far as fire doors. So then is accommodation meaning that somebody would have to go to rifle? We would have to look at alternative space too. Or to value. We, yeah, we'd have, if we look at a meeting, if we're going to do a meeting in Glenwood, we look for alternative locations as an example. And then if, if someone needs accommodations as an employee to work, then a lot of times that may be a hybrid situation to where we're allowing them to patch in remotely for a little bit or an alternative office location other than what we have available there. Because it just, the first floor is mostly occupied with the WIC rooms. And then we converted the waiting area. We took some of that office and made it better over the couple years. And then there's just not much down there. The clinic rooms are downstairs as well. Sorry, it's been a decade since I've been in there. Yeah, we'll have to come over and bring about that. Build trip. We can go to the dungeon. Yeah, I've been in the dungeon and saw space that's empty but not usable kind of. Correct. Right. Right. And that's, you know, we do utilize the rifle, you know, as our main office. Right. And really a lot of useful space down there. Our vaccine clinic is busier in Glenwood than rifle though. And so we do have the back door that can be wheelchair accessible. And the clients are able to have needs met through the help of our staff. So we can't, we can't accommodate. We, we do our best. Yes. And we'll meet people in parking lots and, you know, different things really to ease and accommodate as best we can. The handicap parking is in the rear, is on the east side of the building. And that's pretty tight, you know, with River Bridge there. And we are working on getting some signage because we, those stairs in the front, a lot of people still come up the stairs, you know, and then the winter and different things. We see a lot of pregnant women and things there. I know, and baby still. And babies. And so they'll still try to get them up. So there is, we're trying to, we're working on some signage to try to make it big, like to, for that direction. Oh, to the building. Just for overall safety and liability and things. And so, but it is a, it is an interesting mix whenever weather hits kind of in the middle of the day. And because of those stairs. And so in the past we've had like a clinic scheduled. And of course, you know, it's, it's dumps at like nine o' clock and then we got staff out there on the stairs and salting and things. And so, but yeah, it's always open to see if there's any alternatives in that area for some better accommodation space that can be used. So is that snow removal done by, is it contract? Yes. It's contracted. This last year they were, I mean. Oh, we didn't have any snow. Of course. Yeah. It was great. Last year was great. They were fine. Okay. But no, they're pretty responsive. And you know, to our needs there. So. Thanks, Sarah. Before you go, if I could just real quick. And you're going to hear this a lot from my office commissioners that essential emergency support function aid, you've heard them talk to you about this before, but this public health department with the leadership of Joshua and Sarah have been, are really at the leading edge of being really well prepared for that world. And I mentioned it just yesterday, you know, in the updates for the ICS training we're doing next week. Right. And what you're seeing right in front of you is a team that will manage, let's say it's a wildfire event and they are very much involved, particularly like with the particulates that are in the air from wildfire smoke, those kinds of things. So they, I just wanted to highlight the work that they've been able to do. They really are on the leading edge of this. They were very helpful and effective during the Lee and Gri zzly fires just recently and stood up their ESF eight function. So just wanted to highlight that for this team that they're doing a really good job in that realm. Thank you, sir. Thanks. And we've worked hard to establish, Sarah's working with the healthcare coalition, it's a month, a bi-month meeting. And we do with public safety council around that time. So last one we had 20 folks there plus. And so really great stuff with our ESF eight group county- wise. All right. Our April meeting will have an expert from CDPHE environmental health talking about smoke projections. So lining us out for what that could look like with this, the fear for this year. And we'll be there next week at the 300. Yeah. Both of us. Thanks. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thanks, Sarah. Okay. Back to you, Fred. Yeah. Thank you. Next this morning, as I mentioned, we have an update. This is from Christine Dolan, Irish Cohen, and Emily St anton. So good morning and welcome. This is the members of the nutrition team. They're sharing updates on their programs, highlighting the impacts of the programs, particularly on community health and who we serve in the community. So good morning and welcome. Thanks for being here. Thanks for allowing us to show you what we do. So happy National Nutrition Month. My name is Christine Dolan, Parkville County Public Health. National Nutrition Month was actually March. So happy belated National Nutrition Month. We're just going to highlight a few of the programs that we work on. WIC, Healthy Beverage Partnership, Colorado Heart Healthy Solutions, which is what Iris works on, and Cooking Matters, which is part of what the Moor works on. So just wanted to share some results. The National WIC Association nationally looked at the National WIC Association, and the National WIC Association, and the National WIC Association nationally looked at the health care and health care and health care. So we're going to share some results. We're just going to highlight a few of the programs that we work on. We're going to share some of the programs that we work on, and Cooking Matters, which is part of what the Moor works on. So just wanted to share some results. The National WIC Association nationally looked at some surveying, including some in Garfield County, 50 clients of ours. And so just to highlight some of the things that were brought to our attention, that 84% of the clients that responded to the survey said they changed the way they eat because of the WIC program. 64% said that it was hard to find WIC foods in the store, so that just gives us a heads-up about what we're trying to do. You know, there's labels in the store, there's education in the office, and over the phone, but it's still a challenge for people to find what they're looking for. And then the cash value benefit is the CVB, and that people will say is -- or 100% of the respondents said that was a reason that they participated in the WIC program. So people are basically telling us that the fruit and vegetable benefit that they receive is incredibly important , and it keeps them coming back. And it is a demonstration that people are trying to make healthy choices. Thank you. So, Christine, what's the eligibility for WIC? There's financial eligibility, correct? Yeah. So, you're supposed to live in the county you're served, although that's a little loose these days. There's people crossing up to Aspen or whatever back and forth, so it's a little flexible. The pregnant, breastfeeding, or postpartum women, children under the age of five, and then the income guidelines. It's 185% of the heteropods. Okay. 185%? Yeah. So, on to my next topic unless you have another question. No, thank you. Continue. So, one of the programs we've been working on is the Healthy Beverage Partnership, which is working to reduce the consumption of sugary beverages, which we know causes a myriad of diseases, and especially chronic diseases that start developing in childhood if people are regular consumers of sugary beverages. Such as diabetes? Diabetes, heart disease, obesity, even kidney stones, like some that are kind of the outliers. But, yeah, so we've been working on that for a few years. It's a grant. And this is where Christine gets notes from me that says, " Why are we giving grants out?" Yeah. And it's because of this program. Yes, sir. We -- so we receive grant money from the tobacco tax dollars in partnership with seven or six other counties that are doing this kind of work. We're the only rural county involved. And so we have partners that we work with on this grant here. 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And then Parachute was interested in going a step further, and they were the first ones, so they adopted a resolution, basically a resolution of the town council of the town of Parachute, Colorado, supporting the availability of healthier beverage choices and alternative offerings to sugary beverages and promoting public health. And with that, basically a statement of what the concerns are and that they feel like they want to acknowledge their responsibility in the health of their community and support the initiatives that we're proposing. So, again, a statement of what they're hoping for, you know, supporting the schools and, you know, the work they do if they're putting on an event, that they would have some healthy options available to people that places have drinking water, and then just basically promoting what we're promoting. So sharing that through their town council. And then finally, supporting Garfield County Public Health 's nutrition and restaurant inspection programs in encouraging restaurants to offer healthy default beverage options in children's meals. So if you go to a restaurant and there's a kid's meal, you know, a lot of times it's like nuggets, french fries, and possibly a drink. And so the default beverage, if it's a soda or a sweetened beverage, families are more likely to just go with what's offered. If they don't offer that, either they don't offer a drink with the meal, the parents can choose, or if they just say that comes with milk or water or like a seltzer or something like that. And then orange juice is a sugary beverage, correct? Yeah, we're really working on trying to eliminate the amount of juice or reduce the amount of juice and certainly eliminate it in a kid's meal. So without kind of mandating anything, what we're going to do is include like a summary of the resolution in the licensure package through consumer protection that would just be like, hey, here's some information, and this is just in parachute because they're the only ones that have created this resolution and just open up a conversation. If there's a new restaurant, all the restaurants in parachute are in compliance with what we had hoped for, except for McDonald's, which we really have no control over. But they have milk in their kids' meals. They have milk and they have chocolate milk and they have apple juice. So they're trying. It's just not to the standards that we would like because the problems that come with chocolate milk can be very similar to what comes with overconsumption of soda. So that's where we are with parachute. We're going to probably circle back and, you know, as all the restaurants are either contacted or have a discussion, kind of see, go back to the communities and see what we can do for next steps to try to get folks on board. But so far, you know, all the restaurant owners or managers that I've met with have been very gracious and interested and, you know, it's not... we're not hoping to impact their business in any kind of negative way, so people are very open to the conversation. So it's been a good thing and it's been a really interesting conversation to have with businesses. So next is... it is Chacon. So just to refresh, we have worked with the Colorado Heart Healthy Solutions for the last four years. They were working in partnership with LiftUp, but we were still supervising her work. You had to have someone from public health supervise, but the grant was run through LiftUp. And when LiftUp was just kind of struggling to... with capacity... And finances. Yeah. Although the grant covers the whole thing. If it's used correctly, yes. It has joined us, which was just kind of official what we had been doing, which is the supervision and just support and just that connection with our partners and things like that. So it's been a great thing and she can tell you more about what she's been doing. Yes. Hi, everyone. The program is called Colorado Heart Healthy Solutions. And it was mainly introduced locally in 2021 through LiftUp. Like Christine said, the WIP program and public health have been involved since day one. And it was fully adopted by Garfield County just last July. And it's a fully grant-funded program. And the program focuses in preventing cardiovascular disease and diabetes. Heart disease is the number one cause of death in the U.S. and approximately 700,000 deaths each year associated with heart disease. And there are a lot of adults that have high cholesterol and don't know it. And that goes along with high blood pressure. We focus... The program is constantly changing and trying to improve. And something that we adopted about two years ago is focusing more on the life's essential aid, which is a program or a protocol dictated by the American Association of Cardiology. And what they focus is on this eight essential steps. So eating better, being more active, no tobacco, getting healthy sleep, managing weight, controlling the cholesterol levels, managing blood glucose, blood sugar, and the blood pressure . So when I do the screenings, we focus all of the questions that our participants answer are related to this eight components. And so who are your participants and how do they... Is it through the WIC program? The participants are in the WIC program? It is. They do refer a lot. And we have a group where we have, like, all the resources connecting and talking to each other. So it's a lot of referral that I get from other programs. So what are the resources? We have the WIC program. We have the People's Clinic in Carbonell. We have... I'm drawing a blank. We have... Your hospitals? Yes, local hospitals. I've talked to them. The Diabetes Prevention Program from the hospital from Grand River and Glenwood Springs, too. And I show up to all the health fairs, and I just do a lot of community talk and involvement. And a lot of the times, and you'll see in one of my success stories, if we have a participant that really sees the benefit of the program, they'll start referring it to neighbors, family members, and people that they feel that they benefit. The only requisite to be part of this program is to be an adult, 18 years of age or older. Because we are in a rural part of the state, we don't check for insurance purposes. It was initially created in Colorado for people without insurance, but everybody in this rural area just qualifies for it. Thanks. So what a screening looks like is the person contacts me. We meet at public places. A lot of the times, the libraries. They have the private rooms where we can have a conversation about their health. The hours work really well because most of the people want to do it after work or during the weekends. We also meet at public health offices. And the program is mobile, so I try to meet the participant in their hometown just to make things easier. We check through a finger poke. I check a full lipid panel, which includes good cholesterol , bad cholesterol, total cholesterol, sugar, blood sugar, and blood pressure, along with the questions. After the screening, which takes 20 to 30 minutes, the participant leaves with a personalized chart of their results, which shows them what we're checking for, what their normal value for each section is, what their results are, and if there are any suggestions from our program. For example, if their blood pressure is high, we talk about how we can lower blood pressure. If we get someone that is considered a high risk or with the really high levels, my job is to help them get a quick referral or, in the worst case, just a hospital trip to get them treated for, which hasn't happened, thank God. But part of my job is also getting them connected to community resources. And I'd like to share with you two success stories that I think you'll enjoy and just represent how this program is really an asset to our community. A young couple I originally met about two years ago. She's 26 and he's 28. They have three kids. The oldest is a teenager and the other two are under five. When we first met, we did a screening for both of them and found that they had irregular cholesterol levels but nothing too crazy. Their bad cholesterol was high. Their triglycerides were high. And their HDL, which is the good cholesterol, was low. When we talked about how we can improve through healthy lifestyle changes, they told me that they were trying to make healthier food choices as a family, but it was tough. They lived in Parachute at the time. They were right next to a fast food restaurant and they often got coupons. And it was more convenient and cheaper than cooking at home sometimes. Plus, they have very limited time in the evenings and they prefer to use it to help with their kids on homework or spend time together rather than cook. And also, the local grocery store didn't carry a lot of fresh products and it tends to be a little more expensive than the one here in Breivale. We schedule a recheck. So we offer, when we do a screening, we offer a free re check every six months. And I call them, I follow up with them. We had scheduled a recheck and they just didn't show up for it. Then, about eight months later, I ran into mom again at another health fair and she asked me to reconnect. Her oldest son, so the teenager, had just joined a soccer group and they went to the doctor. They did a physical and the doctor noticed the son had gained a lot of weight. After they ran some lab work, they found that his cholesterol was really high. The doctor referred this kid to a nutritionist and it really opened their eyes. The mom told me something that really stuck with me. She said it had never occurred to them that their habits were affecting their younger kids too. They were all eating the same meals and living the same rushed, sedentary lifestyle. She realized that if her own cholesterol was high, she needed to pay attention to her kids' health too. We went ahead and got the parents scheduled for recheck and now we're working together as a family on healthier goals. They're much more aware and motivated to stay on top of their health. The mom also mentioned how grateful she is that the program is available in their area, especially since she and her partner don't have insurance. While the kids' care is covered, she feels relieved to have support for her and her partner's health as well. I also refer them to the People's Clinic in Carbondale where they can start getting regular care. This experience was a strong reminder of the ripple effect health education awareness can have, not just for individuals but for entire families. And the second success story is shorter. This is a participant, a 63-year-old woman who enrolled in the program three years ago. She had been diagnosed with pre-diabetes. Although she was following medical advice, she struggled with consistency in maintaining long-term lifestyle changes . One of her biggest challenges was daily soda consumption. Through small achievable goals, she gradually reduced her intake and replaced soda with mineral water and then water. She now limits soda to Sundays only during family gatherings and maintains healthier beverage choices throughout the week. She also improved her nutrition by consistently following MyPlate guidelines with about 90% of her meals including balanced portions of vegetables, whole grains, and protein. In addition, she overcame a long-standing barrier to physical activity by starting with short walks and eventually joining a women 's walking group. She now walks one to two miles daily and has even completed a 5K, something that she never thought was possible. As a result, she sustained changes, her medication have been reduced, and while she remains pre-diabetic, her health indicators and prognosis have improved. She remains engaged in the program and regularly tracks her progress through cholesterol screenings and vital checks. She reports feeling supported, confident, empowered, and she's also accrediting the program with helping her achieve lasting lifestyle changes. And every time I see her, she tells me, oh, I gave your car to this person and my neighbor, and my neighbor's granddaughter who came to visit. And she always has referrals for me. Any questions about the program? No, good job. Good work. Yeah, I will add a thank you. Thank you for the support on bringing this program in. This is, you know, our .5 on our headcount and grant funded . And so just want to say thank you for that work and accepting that, bringing it on and taking that. And we'll be back for July, June, to recertify her, you know, in that process. Yeah, this is a new calendar year, correct? Yes, sir. This is a state calendar year. Yes, sir. So just want to say thank you for that. I think one of the biggest difficulties with, I mean, if you're at a poverty level, you're buying the least expensive food that's on the shelf. And that food is the processed food. And so that just compounds the issue sometimes. Because you just don't have the, but having the education is important. If you read the back of the label, that's important. But sometimes just you have to feed your family. And that's what's out there. That's a good segue into what Emily's going to talk about. Okay, great. Education program. Yes. Hi, I'm Emily Stanton. I'm the public health nutritionist. So one of the programs that I run is the Cooking Matters program. So just a reminder, Cooking Matters teaches meal preparation, food budgeting, grocery shopping tips, nutrition education, and healthy eating for families. So our goal is to work with low-income individuals. And we are able to offer classes both in person and virtually over Zoom. I do try to do most of the classes in person. But occasionally we work with a program where participants are more spread out throughout the valley. So it's easier to do some stuff. Okay, so Emily, do you use our kitchen at the fairgrounds, the commercial kitchen? I have not. A lot of times when I go places, as long as they have a sink, I have portable cooking equipment that I'm able to bring with me. So I have like skillets and induction burners and all that. But I know in the past the fairgrounds have been used. It's a little tricky because it's set up for like an education presentation, but we did use it in the past. I have used it for staff education when I've done stuff with the wellness committee. Yeah. So these are the groups that I worked with in 2025 in the beginning of 2026. So the ones highlighted in blue are some of the new groups that I added. So my goal was to work more with some of the local school- based family resource centers. So in parachute, I've been doing classes with district 16, both with parents and some of the high school students. And then I connected with one door and rifle. So I do cooking matters for teens with some of their high school students. And then I added RISE, which is a group for adults with disabilities. So they meet at the rifle library and I do classes with them once a month. And then in June, we'll actually be adding lift up. So since lift up now has their pantry at the rifle library, we're going to be able to do a partnership with both the library and lift up and hold classes at the rifle library. And the libraries, all of them, have always been good partners for cooking matters. A lot of them do have a kitchen that we can use as well. So they've always been really great. And just some successes to highlight over the last year. So we did have 362 participants in 2025, which is a pretty good number because I did take three months of maternity leave. We were still able to have quite a few participants. And then just a personal story. One of the groups I work with is at Glenwood Springs High School. And it's some of their students with disabilities. And one of them was able to go home and cook the recipe we made in class for his family. He was very excited to share that he made it at home. And then the Safe and Abundant Nutrition Alliance is another group that I've worked with over the last three years. And at the last class, they wanted to cook with some new foods that they don't frequently use. So we did some recipes with quinoa. We did a roasted eggplant recipe and a kale salad. So they were very curious to learn some new things about foods that they don't always cook with. And there have been some changes to Cooking Matters. So Cooking Matters was previously funded by SNAP Education. Unfortunately, SNAP Education funds were cut. So while I was on maternity leave, Christine was able to get a grant through OPHP to cover some of my salary costs. There is a possible funding opportunity through Proposition MM that was passed in November. So it looks like there might be like $2.5 million for the state for community-based nutrition education. So if that does pass, there would be some money starting July 1st. And so because of that funding cut, we have been offering fewer Cooking Matters classes. So I used to do like two to three a week. Now we do like one to two a week. And I've reallocated some of my time to do more stuff with WIC. So now I do two days seeing WIC clients and just some other administrative tasks for WIC. And one good thing about some of these changes is SNAP-Ed had very strict restrictions on the populations they wanted us to teach. So it was like caregivers with kids ages 0 to 5. But these classes teach a lot of skills that can benefit everyone essentially. So I've been able to do more classes with like seniors, teens, and adults with disabilities. So I just wanted to highlight some of the groups I've worked with that have been good partners. So Ready for the World is the group at Bridges High School that works with young adults with disabilities. RISE is a similar group in RIFLE. And then Mountain Valley Development. So these adults and teens with disabilities, cooking is a very important skill for them to demonstrate independent living skills. So we've been able to teach them recipes that they could replicate at home like quesadillas, sandwiches, personal pizzas, veggie wraps, parfaits, stuff like that. And then we practice skills like using a knife safely, safety around the oven and stove, making a grocery list, just stuff like that. That, again, can help them with some of that independent living. And then Valley Settlement has been a partner for a long time. So I've recently been doing classes with their parent mentor program. So they have some people that work with parents in the schools and they're able to come to Cooking Matters classes and then teach some of the skills they learned at Cooking Matters to the parents that they mentor. And then with great expectations, I work with their family visitor program that serves first-time moms that are 200% below the poverty line. How many individuals in Garfield County are 200% below the poverty line? That's a... I don't know. That's like huge, isn't it? I mean, no income or very little income? I see. So that would be everyone on food stamps, which is like 130 % of federal poverty. Poverty, okay. Yeah, I mean, I have no idea. All right. All right. Just... Like, I can give you an example. So WIC serves about 60% of people that are eligible, so we 're still missing another 40%. So there's a lot of unaccounted. That number just shocked my size. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thanks. Continue. Go ahead and continue. One of the things, and I think this is important with WIC, is sometimes this is very temporary. If someone decided they saved up some money and they can afford to take a couple months off after they have a child, but they could qualify for WIC during that period of time. And then their next recertification period, if they're back to work, they come off. So for a lot of people, it's situation. Yeah. And we hope it is temporary. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. And Great Expectations does the same thing, because there are quite a few moms who might have a job that doesn't offer maternity leave, like if they're like a hairdresser or something like that. So, yeah. And then the Safe and Abundant Nutrition Alliance is another group I work with. So, because their volunteers and participants are from As pen to Parachute, I do a lot of classes over Zoom. So, we send out the recipe ahead of time, and then they can follow along and make the recipe at home. And then we have been able to get the group together a couple times and do some cooking matters at the store tours . So, I do those at the Rifle City Market and then the Glen wood Springs City Market. And we go around the store and talk about how we can get the best price for our food and how to choose healthy food. So, it might be like how we can bulk purchase certain things that your family eats a lot of and get a good price for it, like a bag of apples as opposed to buying individual apples . And just how to make some of those healthy food choices while still keeping the cost of food down. But that is all I have. Thank you, Emily. Questions? Do you have questions, Perry? No. Mike, what is the poverty level income? Is it standard for the United States, or are there different areas that are just a little different? Because it costs a little bit more. It's a little bit more. For what? Yeah, I don't know the number off the top of the list. I used to know that. I was just curious because of his questions what that is. Yeah, so it's the same whether you're in... California or Louisiana. Yep. So, if you're in a very kind of low-income community that, you know, minimum wage is still like a livable wage. Yeah. Because I can see living in, well, I'll just pick it, parts of Louisiana as compared to living in parts of California. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And that's a concern that I've had is, you know, wages go up and that level stays the same and there's no buffer. So if you live in an expensive community and it appears that you make a lot of money. But it's not a livable wage. It's not a livable wage. It's not doing it. Necessarily, yeah. Yeah. It's not doing it. But some, like, if you qualify for Medicaid or food stamps and you meet our criteria for WIC, you automatically qualify. So we get a lot of what they call adjunct eligibility. So I think the system for qualifying for Medicaid takes different things into account. So sometimes people, if they just came to us, they might not qualify. But because of some circumstance, they qualify for Medicaid . It allows them to qualify for WIC. Yeah. It looks like a one-person household is $15,960 for 2026. Good luck on living on that. A four-person, as an example, is $33,000. A family of four? Yes, sir. If you're making $20 an hour, you're above that. Yeah. Yeah, so depending on the number of... That's close to the, I think, the minimum wage in folks in Colorado. Yeah. $19,000 or something is minimum wage in Colorado. You know, I think sometimes what happens, and Emily gave the example of, like, a hairdresser, people, you know, like they're gig workers or whatever, so it's not a 40-hour thing. They're taking on work as they can. It's nothing that's sustainable, so that really keeps them below that level. Thank you. I had a question with Christine about the healthier of everything. Pasteurized versus unpasteurized milk. I'm a big fan of pasteurization. So am I. Yeah, that hasn't really come up in conversation, like with any federal programs, but certainly kind of people wanting raw milk. I think, you know, there's like a system. People contact each other to get raw milk, but... I know at the legislature there was a raw milk bill, you know, that was very controversial. Mm-hmm. I grew up on it, so... It's kind of like what? The big thing used to be fluoridation of water, and that's gone both ways back and forth. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. We're working through a lot of public, classic public health things like pasteurization, fluoridation, and different opinions. A lot of changes at the federal level right now because of Robert Kennedy Jr. Yeah. Yes, sir. He's just shaking everything up, so we'll see how it all ends up in the end. Yeah, we're working through it. But I think it needed to be shook up in a lot of ways. It's good to be revisited, and, you know, we've got our associations that are participating and, you know, responding and has the boots on the ground, you know, in that area, and working through the changes and still waiting on a few things to come down. You know, I know they're still working on the proposal for the Administration for a Healthier America and some of the reorganization of the CDC and some of those things and how it plays out. So we're tied in that with state-level associations, and, you know, Christine works with the WIC Association with the state and myself with CALFO. And so... Can you comment on... It brings up Kennedy's proposals and so on. I've studied that a little bit. In your opinion, for what it's worth, my opinion, for what it's worth, it seems as though they're trying to find out or have found out that many of the dyes or the additives and the preservatives that we put in American foods... Yes, sir. ...are not real good as compared to, and I'm going to say European. Could be other places too. Sure. And they don't seem to have a lot of the problems and so on . And I guess beginning to say a lot of this is because all these additives in our food, the Europeans don't. And they're healthier because of... Can you comment on that? I can a little bit. You know, I'm definitely following along. And, you know, I think... I don't know the exact number, but looking at other countries, let's say 100 plus, that have taken a position and moved forward with, like, reducing colors and dyes and things in food. And some of the linkage is, you know, some of the ones we still allow in America are known carcinogens. And so the science has progressed in that, and that's part of the campaign to look at removal. And then there's also some links to ADHD and some mental health areas, you know, as we work on those mental health areas as potential triggers in increasing, you know, what they've seen with the ADHD and things, increases for kids. And so still a lot of targeting, I think, for the kids, the child, children, you know, and starting there. Pregnant mothers. Pregnant mothers would be good too. So, you know, I think if you... Similar... Something similar that's interesting is the lag, I think, with American approach is lead, as an example. You know, a lot of European nations reduced or didn't allow lead into paint in the late 1800s. You know, as they had those tenement developments and putting people in them and seeing the neurological effects of lead paint. America in 1978. America in 1978. Was when we finally did it. Right. And so that reduction. Of course, you know, you have different things that go into play into those decisions. National lead company, you know, Dutch Boy Paints and things like that. So looking at that scenario, Europe is usually in front of that a little bit. And part of that is because of the nationalization of their healthcare systems as well. So they have that invested R&D that kind of goes along with those mandates of health, you know, government healthcare. And so it's part of that ebb and flow, I think, into that process. I am glad that the federal administration is looking at add itives. Because we know those high processed foods is the target, right? And we do know that chemical companies, you know, there's been a lot of advancement in flavorings and smells and dyes and things that have increased the ability to have more processed food, you know, and produce it. And so, yeah, it's, I think that they will continue to move to reduce some of those dyes in the products. And that's, I think that's a good public health position to support. Thank you. You're welcome, sir. And I will quickly in ending, thanks for the time this morning. Thank you, sir, for the recognition. And, you know, I want to highlight and working with Fred in your guys' policy objectives and is, you know, solidly for the presentations we heard this morning with Sarah and the amortizations and the communicable disease control. And then the food and nutrition part of those, part of that is this team, too. And so that ties directly into your policy objectives for 2026. And this format works, you know, you had an hour and a half with us today. It works a lot better than Board of Health meetings. Yeah, I was over 10 minutes. Oh, sorry. So, you know, I mean, it works better. And, I mean, definitely we need Board of Health and those reports and so forth. But as far as the presentation, this works better for us. Yeah, I think it's really appreciated the staff understands it and, you know, reserving the action items for the Board of Health. And, you know, we'll have the report at the next one. But I think everybody appreciates that and just the ability to come and say, hey, and let you know who's doing the work . Yeah, it's educational for us. We get to know you and know what you're doing. So, thank you. And the acronyms. And the acronyms. We get lots of acronym heavy for sure. It's a snap. It's a snap. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for the time. Do we have anything more in front of us? I don't believe so. Nothing else for us. Thank you. We're good. We're good. Okay. We can be adjourned until 1. Mike, you have 1 o'clock. 1 o'clock. Yeah.