Hartland public meetings in 2024
36 substantive meetings from 2024, with official agendas or minutes and plain-English summaries.
Village Board
The Village Board meeting scheduled for December 23, 2024, has been cancelled.
Village Board
The Village Board will receive a presentation and discussion with Keller, Inc. on a building needs study, followed by possible action. The study includes conceptual plans for a new 31,290 SF Administration & Community Recreation building at Hartbrook Park and a new 34,542 SF Public Safety building (police and fire) at Lawn and Church Streets. The board may vote on next steps for these proposed facilities.
- Presentation of building needs study by Keller, Inc.
- Possible action on study recommendations
- Proposed 31,290 SF Administration & Community Recreation building at Hartbrook Park with basketball courts, pickleball courts, meeting rooms, and office space
- Proposed 34,542 SF Public Safety building at Lawn and Church Streets combining police and fire departments with garages, bunk rooms, and evidence processing
- Conceptual site plans include new parking, stormwater retention, and wetland setback compliance
Village Board
The Village Board will consider a closed session for the village manager's performance evaluation, along with routine approvals including a claim for $1,200 lost to fraud and a package of vouchers totaling $725,810.79. Other actions include a new liquor license for Duke's Bar & Grill, a contract for a DNR-required water supply plan up to $49,000, and the purchase of a water truck for $109,540.
- Consideration of Trustee Ann Wallschlager's claim for $1,200 reimbursement for personal funds lost to fraud
- Approval of vouchers including $98,182 for library roof installation and $725,810.79 in general payments
- Public hearing and action on a Class B beer/liquor license for Duke's Bar & Grill at 300 Cottonwood Avenue
- Contract with Ruekert Mielke for a DNR-required Water Supply Area Plan not to exceed $49,000
- Purchase of budget-approved body and chassis for water truck 2 at $109,540
Village Board
The village board will deliberate on Trustee Ann Wallschlager's request for $1,200 reimbursement of personal funds lost to fraud, alongside discussion of additional cyber training for board members. Other actions include approval of large vouchers totaling $725,810.79, a public hearing and license for Duke's Bar & Grill, and contracts for a water truck chassis and a water supply area plan. A closed session is scheduled for the village manager's performance evaluation.
- Consideration of claim by Trustee Ann Wallschlager for $1,200 fraud reimbursement and discussion of additional cyber training
- Approval of vouchers totaling $725,810.79, including $98,182.01 for library roof installation
- Public hearing and consideration of 'Class B' alcohol license for Duke's Bar & Grill at 300 Cottonwood Avenue
- Purchase of budget-approved body and chassis for water truck 2 for $109,540
- Contract with Ruekert Mielke for DNR Water Supply Area Plan up to $49,000
Village Board
The Village Board will discuss ARPA funding for the Hwy 83 Water Main Project and a wage reopener agreement for the Professional Police Association. The board is also reviewing a liquor license application for Hartland Citgo and an animal services agreement with HAWS.
- Payment of $1,053,202.50 to Mid-City Corp. for STH 83 Water Main Rehabilitation
- Payment of $20,662.65 to Start Pavement Corp. for 2024 Paving Program
- Public hearing and consideration of 'Class A' liquor license for Tanvi Corp. d/b/a Hartland Citgo at 301 E. Capitol Drive
- Resolution approving ARPA funding grant spending on Hwy 83 Water Main Project
- Agreement for animal services with HAWS for 2025 through 2027
Village Board
The Hartland Village Board holds a special meeting to hear an appeal from Brian C. Steffes, who seeks to relocate his residence within 750 feet of a facility for children under Village Ordinance Section 66-12(h). Steffes, a convicted sex offender from 1995 with no subsequent offenses, requests to move in with extended family to continue rehabilitation. The board will take sworn testimony, deliberate publicly, and render a decision.
- Appeal of Brian C. Steffes under Village Ordinance Section 66-12(h) to relocate within 750 feet of a children's facility
Village Board
The Village Board will consider and vote on the 2025 Village Budget, including a General Fund of $9.78M, water and sewer utility budgets, and a $7.28M property tax levy. They will also discuss a resolution to set the sewer utility rate for Q1 2025 and consider a police department request to order a squad car in 2024 using 2025 budget funds. Additionally, the board will approve a special event permit for the Holiday Train on December 8, 2024, and authorize payment of $872,193.74 in vouchers.
- Approval of 2025 total Village expenditure budget of $19,900,923
- Property tax levy set at $7,283,013
- Resolution for sewer utility rate effective first quarter 2025
- Police department request to order squad in 2024 budgeted for 2025
- Special event permit for Holiday Train on December 8, 2024
Village Board
The Village Board will hold a public hearing on the proposed 2025 budget covering all funds, with adoption scheduled for November 11. They will also consider a PUD for a 118-unit senior living development on Campus Drive, including rezoning to RM-1. Other items include approving payments for crack sealing and water main projects, site plan reviews for three properties, and a closed session on the Western Lakes Fire District agreement.
- Public hearing on proposed 2025 Village Budget
- Proposed 118-unit senior living PUD on Campus Drive with rezoning to RM-1
- Consideration of final payment of $21,499 for 2024 Crack Sealing Program to Thunder Road LLC
- Consideration of payment no. 3 of $594,411.12 to Mid-City Corporation for STH 83 Water Main Rehabilitation
- Site plan reviews for dumpster enclosure at The Inn, patio/pergola at The Legend at Bristlecone, and warehouse/office for Lang Technik-USA
Plan Commission
The Joint Architectural Board/Plan Commission will consider multiple signage applications, site plans, and a proposed Planned Unit Development (PUD) for a 120-unit senior living complex on Campus Drive. The board will also review plans for a new warehouse and office for Lang Technik-USA and a conceptual review of the Cherry Faith Hartland development.
- Proposed PUD for 120-unit senior living development on Campus Drive (rezoning to RM-1)
- Site and building plan for new residential construction at 308 North Avenue
- Warehouse and office structure for Lang Technik-USA at 1025 Walnut Ridge Drive
- Signage applications for Empower Movement, New Heights Physical Therapy, Mellow Mutts Spa, and The Inn
- Exterior patio and pergola addition at The Legend at Bristlecone, 1500 Arlene Drive
Village Board
The Village Board will consider approval of multiple payments totaling over $1.58 million, including final payment for the Hartbrook Park pedestrian bridge and the second payment for the STH 83 water main rehabilitation. A public hearing and action on a Class B liquor license for The Inn is scheduled, along with special event permits for Hartland Lights and American Creed PAC. The board will also discuss Wenzel Amazements' participation in Hometown Celebration 2025 and conduct a conceptual review of the Cherry Faith Hartland development.
- Consideration of Hartbrook Park Pedestrian Bridge closeout payment of $7,373.42 to Zenith Tech, Inc.
- Consideration of contractor request for payment no. 2 on STH 83 Water Main Rehabilitation for $349,837.50 to Mid-City Corporation
- Consideration of vouchers for payment totaling $1,227,653.93
- Public hearing and action on 'Class B' Combination Beer/Liquor License for The Inn at 110 Cottonwood Ave.
- Special event application for Hartland Lights including $1,000 village expenditure for horse carriage rides
Village Board
The Village Board will receive a presentation on November ballot referendum questions and a building needs study by Keller, Inc. The board is also considering several contractor payments for paving and water main projects.
- Payment of $42,042.21 to Wolf Paving Co. for 2023 Paving Program closeout
- Payment of $155,690.75 to Mid-City Corporation for STH 83 Water Main Rehabilitation
- Payment of $387,852.25 to Stark Pavement Corporation for 2024 Paving Program
- Consideration of a municipal court services proposal from Attorney Kimberly M. Kershek
- Review of an Extraterritorial Certified Survey Map for the Bong property at N61W30697 Beaver View Road
Plan Commission
The Joint Architectural Board and Plan Commission will consider two certified survey maps for properties on North Avenue and Beaver View Road. The board will also review a signage application for a business on Norton Drive.
- Signage application for Austin, 530 Norton Drive
- Extraterritorial Certified Survey Map for the Bong property, N61W30697 Beaver View Road
- Certified Survey Map for the Klink property, 308 North Avenue
Village Board
The Village Board will consider a first reading for a 120-unit senior living development on Campus Drive and a second reading for an annexation and PUD project on County Road K. The board will also review various payments and permit applications.
- Payment to Stark Pavement Corp. for 2024 Paving Program: $454,293.94
- Vouchers for payment totaling $556,256.39
- Proposed 120-unit senior living development by Three Leaf Development on Campus Drive
- Proposed annexation and PUD development by Gideon Farms LLC at N56W30020 County Road K
- Resolution to expend funds for Hartland Public Library to exempt the Village from Waukesha County Library Levy
Plan Commission
The Joint Architectural Board and Plan Commission will conduct the second review of a proposed Planned Unit Development (PUD) by Three Leaf Development for a senior living project (approx. 120 units) on Campus Drive. The review includes preliminary site and building plans, a certified survey map, rezoning to RM-1, and a PUD agreement. The board will also consider a signage application for Wisconsin Dance Theatre and a conceptual review of an accessory building for Lake Country Players. Minutes from prior meetings will be approved.
- Second review of PUD for senior living (120 units) by Three Leaf Development on Campus Drive (tax key HAV 0423981056)
- Proposed rezoning to RM-1 in conjunction with PUD Agreement
- Signage application for Wisconsin Dance Theatre at 509 Cottonwood Avenue
- Conceptual review of accessory building for Lake Country Players at 221 E. Capitol Drive
- Approval of minutes from June 17 and July 15, 2024 meetings
Village Board
The Village Board will vote on paying $608,655.71 in vouchers covering various expenses including ambulance supplies, a basketball court resealing project, and donations. A public hearing will be held on Kwik Trip's application for a Class A alcohol license and a cigarette/tobacco/vaping device license at 715 W. Capitol Drive. The board will also consider awarding a $21,441 crack sealing contract to Thunder Road, LLC.
- Consideration of vouchers for payment totaling $608,655.71
- Public hearing and possible issuance of a Class A alcohol license for Kwik Trip at 715 W. Capitol Drive
- Consideration of a cigarette, tobacco, and electronic vaping device license for Kwik Trip
- Discussion and award of 2024 crack sealing contract to Thunder Road, LLC for $21,441.00
Village Board
The Village Board will review and consider a proposed annexation and Planned Unit Development by Gideon Farms LLC on County Road K, including rezoning and a comprehensive plan amendment, with a public hearing set for August 26. They will also review plans for a garage and food pantry addition at St. Charles Congregation, approve $406,758.80 in vouchers, and discuss placing Wall That Heals benches at Nixon Park.
- Consideration of vouchers for payment in the amount of $406,758.80
- Review of plans for addition of detached garage and food pantry structures at St. Charles Congregation, 313 Circle Drive
- First reading and review of proposed annexation and PUD development by Gideon Farms LLC on property at N56W30020 County Road K
- Consideration of setting a public hearing date for August 26, 2024 for the proposed annexation
- Discussion and consideration of Wall That Heals benches to be placed at Nixon Park
Plan Commission
The Joint Architectural Board/Plan Commission will consider a second review of the proposed annexation and Planned Unit Development by Gideon Farms LLC on County Road K, along with an initial review of a 120-unit senior living development by Three Leaf Development on Campus Drive. The board will also vote on minutes, signage, and residential additions. Public comments are allowed for agenda items.
- Second review of proposed annexation and PUD by Gideon Farms LLC on property at N56W30020 County Road K
- Initial review of senior living development (120 units) by Three Leaf Development on Campus Drive
- Signage application for Sjoberg at 620 Cardinal Lane
- Residence addition at 1213 Sunnyslope Drive
- Detached garage and food pantry addition on St. Charles Congregation property at 313 Circle Drive
Village Board
The Village Board will review several second-reading ordinances regarding park hours, animals, and motor vehicle use in parks. The board will also consider utility payments and a contract for audit services by Baker Tilly. Additionally, the meeting includes a review of a special event application for the St. Charles Fall Fest.
- Payment to American Sewer Services, Inc. ($68,010.00)
- Vouchers for payment totaling $195,318.15
- St. Charles Fall Fest Special Event Application
- Audit services contract with Baker Tilly (2024–2026)
- Ordinances regarding park hours and animal regulations
Village Board
The Village Board will consider several ordinance amendments related to park usage, animal regulations, and motor vehicle operation. The meeting also includes a discussion on removing fluoride from municipal wells and reviewing special event applications. Additionally, the board will review vouchers for payment and a partial payment for a generator upgrade.
- Discussion regarding removing fluoride from all municipal wells
- Partial payment to Pieper Power for Arlene Lift Station generator upgrade
- Vouchers for payment in the amount of $487,501.81
- Ordinance amendments concerning motor vehicles and animals in village parks
- Resolution to amend cemetery fees in the Code of Ordinances
Plan Commission
The Joint Architectural Board and Plan Commission will review several development proposals. This includes an initial review of a proposed annexation and rezoning for a project by Gideon Farms LLC. The boards will also consider residential lot divisions and signage applications.
- Proposed annexation and PUD development by Gideon Farms LLC at N56W30020 County Road K
- Lot division proposal for 308 North Avenue into two lots with new single-family dwellings
- Signage application for IB26 Futbol Academy and ETS Performance at 704-706 Rose Drive
- Residential addition application for 430 Lindenwood Drive
Village Board
The Hartland Village Board will consider several infrastructure contracts and utility rate changes. The agenda also includes reviews of special event applications and various license renewals. Additionally, the board will discuss cemetery fees and a food vendor application for Nixon Park.
- STH 83 Water Main Rehabilitation contract to Mid City Corporation for $2,313,825.00
- Sanitary sewer televising contract to Visu Sewer not to exceed $30,000
- Water Utility Simplified Rate Increase review
- Farmers Market and Palmer’s Tent Event Gala applications
- Vouchers for payment totaling $2,168,792.11
Plan Commission
The Joint Architectural Board/Plan Commission will consider several items, including a development concept for Eagle Pass (formerly the Hammer property), signage applications for three businesses, and a 5-year renewal of a conditional use permit for Biebel's True Value's temporary greenhouses. The agenda also includes a public hearing for the greenhouse permit and approval of prior meeting minutes.
- Signage application for Lake Country Dance, 675 Industrial Court
- Exterior plan revision for Boardwalk Financial, 128 Cottonwood
- Signage application for S3 Deli, 131 E. Capitol Drive
- Development concept for Eagle Pass (formerly Hammer property)
- 5-year CUP renewal for Biebel's True Value greenhouses, 580 Hartbrook Drive
Village Board
The Village Board will consider approving $837,558.23 in vouchers, a $182,065.75 contractor payment for the 2024 Utilities Program, and several permits. They will also discuss a law enforcement services agreement for the 2024 Republican National Convention, review a development concept for Eagle Pass (formerly Hammer property), and consider a building needs assessment with Keller, Inc. Other items include cemetery rule revisions, a library roofing contract, and a special event permit for Goat Yoga in Nixon Park.
- Vouchers totaling $837,558.23
- Contractor payment of $182,065.75 for 2024 Utilities Program
- Intergovernmental Agreement for Law Enforcement Services for 2024 RNC
- Development concept for Eagle Pass (formerly Hammer property)
- Building Needs Assessment Study Agreement with Keller, Inc.
Village Board
The Village Board will consider a petition to annex 42.722 acres owned by Gideon Farms LLC from the Town of Merton, with a first reading of the annexation ordinance and referral to the Plan Commission for zoning review. The board will also review a conditional use permit for a mobile gas station at 805 Cardinal Lane, approve vouchers totaling $244,609.89, and discuss the 2025 budget schedule. A closed session is scheduled to discuss litigation related to a claim filed by Erin Wells.
- Annexation of 42.722 acres from Town of Merton (Gideon Farms LLC)
- Conditional Use Permit and Business Occupancy permit for SD Hartland, Inc. (Mobile Gas Station) at 805 Cardinal Lane
- Vouchers for payment: $244,609.89
- 2025 Budget Preparation Schedule
- Closed session on litigation (Erin Wells claim)
Village Board
The Hartland Village Board will consider approving a $77,000 contract with Structurewerks for salt dome wall repairs, approve $732,634.41 in vouchers, and discuss mutual aid agreements with SCIT and fire departments. The board will also receive a presentation on the Fire Strategic Plan by Five Bugle Training & Consulting, LLC.
- Award contract to Structurewerks for salt dome repair at $77,000
- Approve vouchers totaling $732,634.41
- Mutual aid agreements with SCIT and Brookfield and Lake Country Fire Departments
- Operator license for Micah Landcaster
- Presentation of Fire Strategic Plan by Five Bugle Training & Consulting, LLC
Plan Commission
The Joint Architectural Board/Plan Commission and Village Board will hold a joint meeting to review and consider a proposed PUD development called Hartland Quarry, including a rezoning and PUD agreement, sought by Three Leaf Partners LLC for properties at 700 and 701 W. Capitol Drive. The Plan Commission will review first, followed by the Village Board, which will consider the same items. Public comments will be accepted for three minutes per person.
- Review of proposed rezoning and PUD Agreement for Hartland Quarry
- Properties at 700 and 701 W. Capitol Drive (tax keys HAV0730981, HAV0730985, HAV0730986, HAV0730987)
- Applicant: Three Leaf Partners LLC
- Joint meeting of Plan Commission and Village Board
Village Board
The Joint Architectural Board/Plan Commission and Village Board will hold a joint meeting to review and consider a proposed PUD development called Hartland Quarry, including a rezoning and PUD Agreement, sought by Three Leaf Partners LLC for properties at 700 and 701 W. Capitol Drive. The Plan Commission will review first, followed by the Village Board, which will make the final decision.
- Rezoning and PUD Agreement for Hartland Quarry, a proposed PUD development by Three Leaf Partners LLC
- Properties affected: tax keys HAV0730981, HAV0730985, HAV0730986, HAV0730987 at 700 and 701 W. Capitol Drive
- Public comments limited to 3 minutes per person, with extensions at Chair's discretion
Village Board
The Village Board will consider a conditional use permit and business occupancy for ib26 LLC at 704-706 Rose Drive, and an extraterritorial certified survey map for the Eskau property at 513 Memory Lane. The board will also review the 2023 MS4 report and the Fire Department annual report, and approve vouchers totaling $76,574.94.
- Vouchers for payment: $76,574.94
- Special Class B license for Hartland Chamber of Commerce Street Dance, July 20, 2024
- Extraterritorial Certified Survey Map for Eskau property, 513 Memory Lane
- Conditional Use Permit and Business Occupancy for ib26 LLC, 704-706 Rose Drive
- 2023 MS4 Report and Fire Department Annual Report presentations
Plan Commission
The Hartland Joint Architectural Board/Plan Commission will review a Certified Survey Map for the Eskau property at 513 Memory Lane, signage applications for Kwik Trip, Merge Healthcare, and Mosaic Health, and a Conditional Use Permit for ib26LLC at 704-706 Rose Drive. They will also hold an initial review of a proposed Mobile Gas Station at 805 Cardinal Lane and a conceptual review of a senior living development on Campus Drive.
- Certified Survey Map for Eskau property, 513 Memory Lane
- Signage application for Kwik Trip, Hwy 83 & Capitol Drive
- Signage applications for Merge Healthcare Solutions Inc., 900 Walnut Ridge Drive, and Mosaic Health, 139 Cottonwood Avenue
- Conditional Use Permit and Business Occupancy for ib26LLC, 704-706 Rose Drive
- Initial review of Conditional Use Permit for SD Hartland, Inc. (Mobile Gas Station), 805 Cardinal Lane
Village Board
The Village Board will receive presentations from department heads on building needs, followed by a tour. The agenda includes detailed reports on the DPW facility, recreation spaces, and the fire station, with a proposed fire station addition and remodel projected at $11,775,996. This is a discussion and information-gathering session, not a final decision-making meeting.
- Proposed fire station addition and remodel: $11,775,996
- DPW facility needs: proposed 2,000 sq ft addition and shop addition of 50' x 70'
- Community Center reconfiguration: 6,000 sq ft multi-use space needs
- Recreation needs: multi-purpose room (5,500 sq ft) for basketball, pickleball, volleyball, indoor track
- Fire station: 1964 building, 8,938 sq ft, with noted issues including carcinogen circulation from gear room
Village Board
The Hartland Village Board will hold a public hearing and consider a Class A beer/liquor license for SD Hartland Inc., review a proposed Kwik Trip PUD development including rezoning, and act on several other items such as a final payment for the 2022 Paving Program, a conditional use permit for Performance Pickleball, and an ordinance regulating wireless telecommunications facilities. The agenda also includes routine items like approving minutes and vouchers.
- Public hearing and consideration of Class A Beer/Liquor License for SD Hartland Inc., 805 Cardinal Lane
- Third reading and consideration of Kwik Trip PUD development at Highway 83 & W. Capitol Drive, including rezoning to B-2
- Final payment to Payne & Dolan, Inc. for 2022 Paving Program closeout: $26,224.32
- Vouchers for payment: $152,180.78
- Second reading of ordinance regulating wireless telecommunications facilities in public right-of-way
Plan Commission
The Joint Architectural Board/Plan Commission will review and consider several items, including a proposed Kwik Trip PUD development with rezoning, a conditional use permit for Performance Pickleball of Wisconsin, and multiple signage applications. The board will also review an extraterritorial certified survey map, a public art plan, and revised plans for a garage addition at St. Charles Congregation.
- Kwik Trip PUD development at Highway 83 & W. Capitol Drive, including rezoning to B-2
- Conditional use permit and business occupancy for Performance Pickleball of Wisconsin, 528 E. Industrial Drive (public hearing)
- Extraterritorial Certified Survey Map for Roy property, W298N2808 Shady Lane, Town of Delafield
- Signage applications for Valvoline Instant Oil Change, Brookfield Cardiovascular Associates, and Landmark Credit Union
- Revised plans for attached garage and storage addition at St. Charles Congregation, 313 Circle Drive
Village Board
The Village Board will consider approving $5,524,510.31 in vouchers, including tax settlements and payments, and will hold a public hearing on impact fee revisions. The board will also take up ordinances regulating wireless telecommunications facilities in public rights-of-way, amending municipal court operations, and changing operator license procedures. Additionally, they will discuss contracts for Penbrook baseball diamond fencing and the 2024 sanitary sewer cleaning and televising project, and consider several Hometown Celebration expenses.
- Vouchers for payment totaling $5,524,510.31
- First reading of ordinance to regulate wireless telecommunications facilities in public right-of-way
- Public hearing and second reading on impact fee schedule amendments
- Second reading on municipal court ordinance and successor agreement for Lake Country Municipal Court
- Contract awards for Penbrook baseball diamond fencing and 2024 sanitary sewer cleaning and televising
Village Board
The Village Board will consider approving plans for a garage addition at St. Charles Congregation and renovations for Empower Movement, review a public art plan from Arrowhead High School students, and discuss adjusting Fire Department ambulance service fees. The board will also consider ordinances on municipal court and operator licenses, and schedule a public hearing on impact fees. Several routine items, including minutes, vouchers, and licenses, are also on the agenda.
- Vouchers totaling $158,131.78 for payment
- Conceptual review of public art plan by Arrowhead High School students and Hartland BID
- Ordinance to repeal prior resolutions and create § 70-31 for Park and Recreation Board subcommittee
- Approve plans for attached garage and storage at St. Charles Congregation, 313 Circle Drive
- Approve renovation plans for Empower Movement, 123 Lawn Street
Plan Commission
The Joint Architectural Board/Plan Commission will review several signage applications, a conditional use permit for Performance Pickleball of Wisconsin, and building plans for an attached garage at St. Charles Congregation and renovations for Empower Movement. They will also consider an amendment to Birch & Banyan Coffee's occupancy permit for private events.
- Conditional Use Permit and Business Occupancy for Performance Pickleball of Wisconsin, 528 E. Industrial Drive
- Signage for JD McCormick Properties, Hartland Riverwalk Apartments, 200 E. Capitol Drive
- Signage for Horizon Performance Technologies LLC, 955 Walnut Ridge Drive
- Addition of attached garage and storage area on St. Charles Congregation property, 313 Circle Drive
- Amendment to occupancy permit for Birch & Banyan Coffee, 150 E. Capitol Drive, for private events
Village Board
The Hartland Village Board will consider several items including a first reading of an ordinance amending impact fees, a site license agreement for a cell tower at 671 Hill Street, and a discussion of building needs that could lead to creating a committee. The board will also review special event fee waivers, a food vendor application, and a request for a banner from the Sons of the American Legion. The agenda includes routine approvals of minutes and vouchers, including a $31,078.50 payment to Wolf Paving and $702,299.26 in other vouchers.
- First reading of ordinance amending impact fees (§ 50-232) and setting public hearing for January 22, 2024
- Site license agreement with CCATT for cell tower property at 671 Hill Street
- Discussion of building needs analysis and possible creation of a committee
- Consideration of special event fee waiver for Trailtessa Retreat (Ice Age Trail Alliance)
- Consideration of food vendor application for Little Dipperz